Can Barack Obama still pretend to be champion of the liberal dream even though we all know he isn’t? Yes he can! Can a President who rides roughshod over civil liberties, orders illegal drone strikes that kill innocent people, and snoops on citizens still present himself as a harbinger of world peace? Yes he can! Will lefties continue to delude themselves that the man they worshipped as saviour in 2008 is still their man in 2013? Er, maybe not.

Obama-love is not what it was. The man who just spoke against nuclear proliferation at the Brandenburg Gate today is quite obviously not the avatar of progress who appeared before adoring crowds near the same spot in 2008. Today’s much-hyped speech turns out to have been something of a damp squib. Five years ago, 200, 000 Germans came to see him; this year, only five or six thousand turned up. “The crowds weren’t as large or as loving as last time,” reports The Atlantic, with some understatement. The global news machine, for its part, seems more interested in the royal baby than anything the President has to say against nuclear weapons.
The optimism of five years ago has been replaced by cynicism. For many on the left today, Obama has morphed from hero to villain. Mehdi Hasan, for instance, has suggested that, on civil liberties and aspects of foreign policy, Obama may well be worse than George W. Bush — and many Americans on the right and left feel the same way.
And yet and yet, Obama still tries to present himself as a 21st century Camelot. His rhetoric has been toned down: today he looked and sounded more like a dreary American technocrat than a citizen of the world. But he continues to pose as a global dove and utters lofty phrases about creating a “world of peace with justice.” It’s just he sounds like he doesn’t believe it anymore — and, increasingly, neither do we.
Europeans still like him, it’s true. Eighty eight per cent of Germans believe he will ‘do the right thing in the world affairs’. (Only 14 per cent said the same of George W. Bush.) But in America, the presidential approval ratings are fast turning against him – especially in the wake of the latest snooping scandal. In Europe, too, it seems, Obamamania is a distant memory.
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  • http://ajbrenchley.com/ Swanky

    Obama IS a damp squib. I voted for Romney….

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/caodaqing Daqing Cao

    How to avoid and defuse the crisis? The new order to wait for the world to validation…

    “ Every Civilization of the birth is an annotation to the Common structure of Civilizations; Every Country of the birth is a promise to the Common structure of Civilizations; Every Life of the birth has Connotation of the Common structure of Civilizations ”——The new order to wait for the world to validation… Which one of the space can be the first to put it into the Constitution?

  • Roy

    Didn’t anyone who did their own reading about him know full well what he represented? Didn’t most people know the fanfare of his election to president was a deceptive mirage? Wasn’t the acclamation all for his colour and his big racial card, nothing to do with his possible presidential material? How much, I wonder, did he gather from the rise of Tony Blair? Not Blair’s ability to lead or his ability to twist his Labour Party opportunistic slant, I mean the Blair underhand way of importing votes at the expense of the native inhabitants and their wonderful Island refuge. Now it is the Americans turn to wonder what is happening to their wonderful country and its Constitution, and how it will be harder and harder for the Republicans to gain power after the flood of Hispanics is promulgated to citizenship. What wrongs this man will do to the America we know before he goes is phenomenal.

  • Tom Tom

    Why give a speech at the Brandenburg Gate ? It is a bit like Admiralty Arch really and has no symbolism aside from the fact John Kennedy gave a speech there to cover up his abject failure to stop Walter Ulbricht dividing the city and violating the FDour Power Agreement. That failure was so abject that Adenauer signed the Elysee Treaty with de Gaulle in disgust and aligned German and French policy. Khrushchev thought Kennedy so weak he decided to put missiles in Cuba to pay back the US for missiles in Turkey. The speech “Ich bin ein Berliner” was theatrical to cover weakness; a weakness Truman had NOT displayed in 1948

    • Augustus

      Yes, not historic, but histrionic.

  • Iain Hill

    As the guy himself said, “I am a doughnut”.

  • thanksdellingpole

    Obongo wasn’t even born in the USA.

  • Andy

    I was always rather amused that so many of you were taken in by him in the first place. Of course that was because he wasn’t George W. Bush and because he was black. I never reckoned he was a good public speaker – I find his voice, its tone and pitch grates. I never thought he believed in anything very much, save in himself of course. Actually when he was elected I went to a cocktail party near LA. Someone asked me, as a Brit, what I thought of him. Having had a glass of half decent champagne I said ‘Well, in my view you have elected a black Tony Blair: believes in nothing, done nothing, is nothing, nor will be anything. And wants to be all things to all men’. I think I had him banged to rights.

    • ironhacker

      I saw Tony Blair speak on US television immediately following the original 9/11 attack. He was nothing short of brilliant. I always wondered why the Brits were less than enthusiastic about him. If Blair is similar to Obama (good speaker, poor executive) it makes perfect sense.

      • Andy

        Why were we less enthusiastic about him ? You should live here and you would then understand ! Blair was probably a better public speaker than Obama – I find his voice grating and the delivery ‘clipped’. However, Blair had a tendency to be pompous and self-righteous which was brilliantly parodied in Private Eye where he was depicted as the Vicar of Bray.

        • ironhacker

          Obama was a better speaker when he was campaigning for the job before he got elected. Back then, it sounded like he believed what he was saying.

          These days, his voice is grating because half the time he is practically shouting — as if talking louder makes him more believable. He stutters more than he used to because everything he says is quickly analyzed and often refuted online, especially on the Drudge Report.

          You can see it all in the Berlin speech. They guy who used to play the crowd like a black version of Mick Jagger now hides behind 8-inch bullet-proof glass. He speaks as if people know he’s lying. And in some cases, they really know.

          Obama speeches are now a joke, because people are beginning to see the difference between what he says and what he does. The only upside is that the fewer promises he fulfills, the better off we generally are.

          • Andy

            Ah well that’s what you get when you elect a career politician. They are generally useless.

  • allymax bruce

    ‘harbinger of world peace’, … ‘avatar of progress’; you’re the worst type of journalist ‘Freddie’, but you don’t scare me, nor President Barak Obama.
    President Obama is easily one of the best 3 USA presidents, ever. If you knew all the hard work, and political nous, he mustered, you would know President Obama is a brilliant Prersident, a fantastic world leader, and, a wonderful, down-to-earth family man. Barak Obama, is one of our new 21st century hero’s, wthout even starting a war!
    Actually, make that 4 wars he never started!
    If anybody ever deserved the Nobel Peace Prize, it is USA President Obama.
    I mean this, I’m missing him already.
    Obama is a 21st century hero, and all we can do is complain about the slight disenfranchisement of our personal privacy; well, how would you like being Gordon Brown/Tony Bliar slaves instead ???
    Obama is a hero, at least for what he stopped from happening, but more for ‘directing’ the NWO down a blind alley. If only you knew; President Obama should be given at least 7 Peace Prizes.
    God bless Barak & family Obama.
    allymax.

    • ironhacker

      If only there was a Nobel Prize for sarcasm.

  • Abhay

    I clicked on the video link to listen to Obama. Then I noticed it was more than 28 minutes long. I promptly paused the video.

  • Nick

    Oh yes,nearly forgot.Of courrrrrse the Obamas are Irish.I mean,what else would they be?
    I could hardly believe it when Mrs.O suddenly claimed to be of Irish heritage.
    What is it with the yanks and the Irish?They have a spud-you-like for lunch and they’re suddenly Irish.
    When Mr.O makes a speech……I cringe.
    When Mrs.O makes a speech……I cringe over doubled up and puke my guts out.

  • Baron

    What everyone’s saying now was visible for anyone who wanted to see from the start, yet he won two terms. The huddled masses could never escape the politicians they deserve. It pains to say it, but the Land of the Free ain’t what it was, it ain’t free for starters; it pains even more to imagine who may take over the Republic’s leadership of the world.

    The messiah would be hard put to satisfy the definition of a politician furnished by the great compatriot of his Ambrose Bierce: ‘An eel in the fundamental mud upon which the super-structure of organised society is reared. When he wriggles he mistakes the agitation of his tail for the trembling of the edifice. As compared with the statesman, he suffers the disadvantage of being alive’.

  • EamonnDublin

    I find it totally embarrassing to have to say it,but, the Irish media is still ludicrously and euphorically infatuated with the Great God Obama. They ignore his obvious ineptitude, his catastrophic presidency, his personal arrogance and narcissism, and instead of critical analysis they eulogise over-abundantly. The visit of the Obamas to Ireland was covered to an every heartbeat degree. And the media insists on calling him “Irish”. Even his wife made headlines for saying, when she spoke in Dublin, “It’s good to be HOME”. And the crowd cheered. And the media headlined it. Home, indeed!!! It is not only sad to witness, as I say, it is embarrassing. Éamonn Gavin, Dublin, Ireland.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      …not to mention, he had the temerity to slander Catholic schools and brand them as part of the problem in Ireland. Typical commie, this guy is.

      • David Lindsay

        Of course, he was only doing his sworn duty to uphold the Constitution of the United States, written as it was by people with a profound hatred of Christianity.

        But in denouncing Catholic schools in Northern Ireland, Obama was sticking to the script provided by his hosts.

        Under the pretext that they teach through the medium of Irish, wholly and militantly secular Sinn Féin schools have been set up at public expense, in direct opposition to the Catholic system, by that party’s successive Education Ministers. The job is a Sinn Féin sinecure; that is one of the unwritten rules.

        The exclusion of Anglican, Presbyterian and Methodist clergy from their historic role in the government of schools is the dry run for that party’s openly desired exclusion of the CatholicChurch from schools throughout Ireland.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          …sorry, laddie, but I stopped reading after the first delusional sentence.

          As mentioned, that communist apparatchik derided Catholic schools in Ireland, and called them a part of the problem.

          Straight out of the commie handbook, which is why you likely celebrate it, and him.

          • David Lindsay

            You know absolutely nothing about your own country’s history or constitutional basis.

            But then, most Americans don’t. They really do believe that it was somehow established as “a Christian nation” or something. That was exactly what it was established not to be. And it isn’t.

            Obama’s view on education has always been the law of his and your land, for as long as it has been a separate land. He probably thought that he was saying something uncontroversial. In terms of his own office, he was.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              You’re on a roll, laddie. I started skipping after the first subject, predicate and object.

              Your communist brethren disparaged Irish Catholic schools, and thereby acted out the typical marxist gameplan. Hundreds of words of your (ignored) blather won’t change that. Celebrate and enjoy, comrade.

              • David Lindsay

                No, you are thinking of your own Ku Klux Klan.

                Where are the publicly funded Catholic schools in America, exactly? Where is the Christian instruction in public schools? Where is the Christian worship? There is a reason for that.

                Thatcher tried to stop the second two over here, too. She wanted Britain to be America.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  With any luck, maybe you and Obama can get those Irish Catholic schools closed down permanently, eh laddie?

                  Is that part of the socialist dialectic in Eire, comrade?

                • David Lindsay

                  Don’t use words that you don’t understand, you worthless redneck piece of scum.

                  Clear off to where you belong, the illegal racist hate site, Telegraph Blogs.

                  I am prepared to argue that point, preferably, though not necessarily, if I get to lynch its editor when I win.

                  He, she or it (it is less than fully clear) is also a worthless redneck piece of scum. You’d fit right in. So to speak…

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  And after those Catholic schools are closed down in Ireland, you and the komissars can start on the Catholic churches, eh comrade?

                  So it looks like your comrade Obama has gone to Eire and sorta morphed the famous words: “Ich bin ein Irish commie rat!”

                  That’s gotta be worth a huzzah or 2, sticking it to those bourgeouis imperialist christers, huh?

                • Drakken

                  There you go again, throwing out that race card to shut up any type of debate from you commis. Keep up the great work for your Comrade Obummer, worst ever embarrassment this great nation has ever had the displeasure of electing.

                • Nicholas chuzzlewit

                  Can you explain firstly the legal basis by which you can declare unequivocally that the Daily Telegraph and it’s blogs are both illegal and racist please? Second, if you legal interpretation is correct, kindly explain why it’s blog pages are still operating? Third, I think that you will find that lynching is frowned upon from a legal perspective as is racist verbal abuse. The implication that you, a hater of democracy, belong on the Spectator website is rich in irony beyond expression.

                • Drakken

                  Typical lefty, to shut down debate, thrown down the race card, how quaint.

  • s_o_b

    A salutary reminder that if something or someone seems too good to be true, there’s a catch.

  • Curnonsky

    Obama hasn’t changed one iota – he still believes the sun shines forth from his nether regions, he still peddles the same sanctimonious pap he did in 2008. What has changed is the hysterical adulation of the Left and anti-American Europe has ebbed as evidence that Obama is not, in fact, the Second Coming of Jimi Hendrix/Lenin mounts. The reality of Obama the ruthless political partisan, the man who leaked the sealed divorce records of his opponents in order to win election to the Illinois State Senate, has always been known – it’s just the the press and chose to ignore it.

    Et tu – Freddy?

  • anyfool

    Obama was always an empty vessel held in high regards by people with empty minds like David Lindsay.
    Lindsay confirms this by bring the race issue up, race is the new last resort of the left, still that is an improvement on when it was the first resort.
    Nothing he says has any merit, unstable countries around the world are clamouring for nuclear weapons and what does this lefty airhead come with, cutting nuclear arsenals of the only countries you could maybe trust with them, and he does it in Germany a country that does not have any.
    There is hundreds more priorities in the world, this one can wait, this is the go to subject for these dopes on the left when they have nothing left to say.

    • David Lindsay

      You can’t get out of this one. All of this and worse were perfectly fine, and God help anyone who said otherwise, when they were done by a white Republican. But a black Democrat is a different matter.

      • anyfool

        Cannot get out of what.
        Obama is useless, not because he is black, he is useless because he was over promoted and cannot cut it.
        The silly preposition that because other Presidents did what they did and got away with it because they where white is garbage, you could go the other way and say Obama has not been held to account because he was black.
        He was not held to account at the last election because his opponent turned out to be rubbish, he was white but he was still rubbish and that had nothing to do with colour.
        By the way other Presidents who were skewered and thrown out were all white..

        • David Lindsay

          You were all in favour of, well, absolutely anything when it was done by a white Republican President. All the surveillance and all the trigger-happiness in the world.

          Anyone who dissented, or even who suggest that Britain might in principle consider having a distinctive foreign policy, was howled into submission. Not that some of us ever did submit.

          But a black Democratic President is a different matter altogether.

          • anyfool

            You really believe this garbage you write.
            When was this howling.
            The only howling I heard was emanating from the kind of people who had never done any work of merit while studying into their thirties and forties, they invariably were Labour and the howling was Yanks get out of everywhere.
            Do you have a mirror, you will see what I mean.

  • E Hart

    He’s a typical modern politician. In the land of the meaningless, the man with a colourful line in rhetoric is king. He’s not alone. The political currency of the day is doublespeak, style trumps substance and brazen, insincere guff is imparted as wisdom (usually by media pooch). Look at the evidence: Guantanamo Bay is still open; extrajudicial murder by drone is the norm; due process is ignored as human rights become divisible; moral courage and conviction wilt at the first sign of GOP obstinacy; ‘yes, we can’ becomes, ‘no, we won’t even bother’ and democracy is traduced by comprehensive snooping on the very people on whom the US constitution is predicated. Like so many politicians, among them, Cameron, Miliband and Clegg co, he wouldn’t know conviction if it smacked him in the kisser.This is the politics of expediency where anything goes and self-serving ‘moral’ exceptionalism goes further. What is the point of democracy if it is constantly sold short for commercial expediency and delivered to the point of use in bewildering mixture of flimflam and falsehood?

    Still, what can you expect from a political whirl, which without a shred of irony, makes Tony Blair a Middle East peace envoy. This is a good joke but it’s on us.

    • Baron

      Seconded, with mighty applause.

    • dalai guevara

      Has it ever occured to you that the machine is bigger than one person?
      Even if you wanted to close Gitmo, you couldn’t?
      Even if you wanted to leave war zones tomorrow, the machine would not let you?

      It matters not what that tells us about Obama (or any other chap for that matter) – what matters is what that tells us about America.

      • E Hart

        Yes, usually on Wednesdays. The two following statements just aren’t true. Even the most intractable politician knows that in the end Clausewitz was right. It’s always a matter of when not if.

        The machine is always bigger than one person. No man is ever an island. That’s not in question. What’s in question is the inexhaustible lengths to which individuals will go to sate that machine. Once in a while it would nice if politicians said what they meant and meant what they said. It does matter what that tells us about Obama because he is symptomatic of a general malaise where doublespeak and exceptionalism are undermining political, social and economic institutions and discourse. If you become a mouthpiece for this nonsense – and attribute it to some over-arching machine – you abnegate all responsibility for your own actions. You also treat those whom you’re supposed represent with contempt.

        • dalai guevara

          Surely, that’s Wednesdays and Saturdays?

          Look, Obama’s first action after being elected first time round was to pledge the closure of Gitmo. Of course he wanted to close it. Why would he so openly and blatantly make this pledge if that wasn’t his true intention?

          America, what have you become.

          • Drakken

            Not to defend Comrade Obummer, but, thank God for Gitmo, we Americans don’t want those bloody savages on our soil, period.

            • Iain Hill

              Is this a racist comment? None of them has been duly convicted in a court of law. Can the NS tolerate this?

              • Drakken

                Jihadist who aren’t in uniform do not fall under any type judicial purview, they belong in cages, or the end of a rope.

              • Drakken

                Nice throw down of the race card by the way, how socialist of you.

            • Tom Tom

              Chief Administration of Corrective Labor Camps and Colonies or
              Glavnoye upravleniye ispravityelno-trudovykh lagerey i koloniy
              GULag fulfilled much the same purpose

              • Drakken

                Muslim jihadist don’t belong in our western lands period! So take your social justice garbage(commi speak) and get bent with it.

          • E Hart

            You tell me. He is the executive and can exercise executive powers. He can pass orders for extrajudicial murders in Pakistan and Yemen, yet he can’t intervene on the matter of this American gulag. What worse, is that among the presumed guilty – who haven’t been charged and have no access to due process – are people who are now accepted as innocent and free to go (in their case, nowhere).

            • dalai guevara

              Exactly – yet one has the cheek to urinate facing the wind by endlessly banging on about China’s human rights record, in the meantime 44 are force-fed. No one cares.

              America what have you become.

              • allymax bruce

                You need to understand the 1789 Constitution is absolutely Republican, but also ‘elitist’ for a ‘purpose’.
                You’ve got to understand what ‘citizens united’, and Patriot Act meant to USA; both of which happened before President Obama was in ‘office’.

            • allymax bruce

              Your argument is insincere; set against UK intractability to kick our own immigrant terrorists out, because the EU machine stops us doing so, proves your argument is self-centred & selectively ignorant blusterings. dalai guevara is right to say ‘the machine’, is just as impressing in US, as it is in UK. But, more than anything you don’t understand the blatant difference between the hypothesised Democracy, and utilitarian Political Democracy!
              Your argument smacks of puerile malice, rather than mature debate.

              • E Hart

                We have to follow the rule of law. Making it up as we go along and ignoring that which doesn’t suit us is no basis on which to operate. It’s not pick and mix you know, there is a requirement that justice is there for all. A divisible system of justice is a contradiction in terms which opens the door to all manner abuses.

                As for the difference between a hypothesised democracy versus a utilitarian variant, that’s quite straightforward. We have a qualified democracy which isn’t very utilitarian, if by utilitarian, you mean ‘the greatest good for the greatest number’. We haven’t even got an electoral process by which seats are won in proportion to the votes cast. Also, plurality means more than four shades of grey with all the excitement that encourages. God, I can hardly contain myself. Politics and democracy require plurality, representation, participation and dynamism – we’re short on all four. Last time out, less than two thirds of the electorate thought it was worth the trouble. None of this concerns out ‘representatives’ because they’ll happily muddle on appealing to a third of those who do vote.

                You might be happy with our ‘utilitarian political democracy’ but I don’t consider it to be very utilitarian, representative or particularly democratic. If that’s puerile and insincere – I’m happy to be both.

                • allymax bruce

                  Now that’s a very good, and well constructed, argument; and well debated .
                  Much better; and I tend to afford your argument credit.
                  This is ‘politics’; some people refer to it as realpolitics. Disparrsging a term it is, it none-the-less invokes the stark reality we must deal with; all finely described by your argument. It’s not perfect, in-deed, it’s positively crooked! But that’s what a political democracy is;pure Democracy is a falacy, it doesn’t exist. The inkjet time pure Democracy existed, it murdered its philosophised creator, Socrates!

                • E Hart

                  Yes.

                • allymax bruce

                  Now that’s a very good, and well constructed, argument; and well debated .
                  Much better; and I tend to afford your argument credit.
                  This is ‘politics’; some people refer to it as realpolitics. Disparrsging a term it is, it none-the-less invokes the stark reality we must deal with; all finely described by your argument. It’s not perfect, in-deed, it’s positively crooked! But that’s what a political democracy is;pure Democracy is a falacy, it doesn’t exist. The inkjet time pure Democracy existed, it murdered its philosophised creator, Socrates!

  • HookesLaw

    Obama’s promises were always going to be too big to deliver.
    The one which excited the liberals, ie close Guantanamo, has been a total failure.

  • Nick

    Does anyone really give a toss what Obama says anymore? After all,he’s just another politician and nothing special.
    I must admit that when he comes out with all this Americanism in his speeches it makes me cringe.It’s all so last century and mushy and boring….We’ve heard it all before…….Same old crap about justice and world order and then the yanks start another war.
    Truly,the yankie government are as bad as the old Soviets and the existing Chinese commies.In fact,the yanks are a damn site worse.
    And who in their right mind would want to follow the example of the ‘American way’? What with all their war mongering,school shoot outs and wild west gun law.
    Obama is just another cocky,swaggering yank who is about as impressive as a cold cheeseburger….or about as unimpressive as every other American president.
    Oh and by the way,Obama isn’t black…..he’s half black and half white.

    • Drakken

      Well before you start critizing us Americans and our cowboy ways of rugged individualism, have you noticed the muslim problem of yours lately? Besides your going to need those American arms before too long. Comrade Obummer is not too popular here in the states but your pols aren’t all that great either are they?

      • Nick

        Hello Drakken.Yes I have most certainly noticed the muslim problem over here………We can’t help but miss it because they are killing us.And that’s just like they did to you folks on 9/11.
        Agreed our MPs are not too great.In fact,they are rubbish.
        But with regards to the American arms,well honestly,please keep them over your side of the pond because we Brits are fed up with these American inspired wars and we just don’t have the money to pay for anymore wars either.

  • Austin Barry

    It is beautiful and reassuring to watch; the rule that cannot be broken or proscribed: hubris will lead to nemesis.

    And so the swaggering, smirking, smug Obama, he of the pokerwork platitudes and pompous oratory, is reduced to just another self-serving politician, this one clutching an absurd, ludicrously undeserved Nobel Peace Prize.

    I look forward to his coming impeachment.

    • David Lindsay

      For what? When the President of the United States was white, then he was held to be above both the law and the Constitution of his own country, and his very word was held to be both the law and the Constitution of this country; two people who, daily for several years, screamed down any questioning of those theories as treasonable and anti-Semitic are Spectator bloggers today. But the rules are different now that the President of the United States is black.

      • telemachus

        I am a little surprised that racial characteristics are an issue for you
        Mentioning this detracts from the fact that Obama is an ineffectual operator both at home and abroad
        In Northern Ireland and in Berlin he was wooden
        Oh for the charisma of Clinton

        • David Lindsay

          Racial characteristics are an issue for the born again critics of the Surveillance State, and of gung-ho military adventurism. Some of us have always been against each and both. But they haven’t. There is only one reason why they have changed their minds.

        • CraigStrachan

          “Oh for the charisma of Clinton”

          We’ll be hearing from her in due course.

          • David Lindsay

            I am rather looking forward to what a lot of people both above and below the line on this and several other sites are going to have to say when faced with the choice between her and Rand Paul.

            • telemachus

              Hillary is too wooden
              Paul has spoken too soon
              I fancy Governor Scott Walker to unify the right

            • the viceroy’s gin

              …don’t worry, laddie. You hard lefties will put down Rand Paul, one way or another, long before it ever got to that choice.

              • David Lindsay

                We’re all for him. That ball is now in the GOP’s court.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …no, laddie, that’s just more of your delusions. You hard lefties hate Rand Paul.

                • David Lindsay

                  What reason have we to do that?

                  It is you people who supported Bush who must loathe him, and prepare yourselves to vote instead for Clinton, with whom you have no disagreement. It is going to be very funny to watch.

                  See here – http://davidaslindsay.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/obama-could-have-been.html

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  No reason to dodge and weave, laddie. You’re a hard lefty, as demonstrated over and over again on these pages. You types hate Rand Paul. Simples.

                • David Lindsay

                  Evidently, it is already very funny to watch. Very, very, very funny indeed.

                  Go on, you want to vote for Clinton. You agree with her, and you disagree with Paul. You people used to want people who agreed with Paul to be interred, stripped of the vote, and so on. Only a very few years ago.

                  Oh, well, as my link above sets out, the GOP is reverting to its rather honourable historical norm in foreign policy. “Today, and not for the first time, Obama sounded like Nixon or Reagan. In a good way.” “Hillary Clinton obviously could not be the candidate of that Coalition. Thank goodness, then, for Rand Paul.”

                  No room for Dubya supporters in that, though. It would take a heart of stone not to laugh.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  No reason to read those delusions either, laddie.

                  There are some very fine polling data available for you, laddie, if you require firm demonstration as to how and why you hard leftists hate Rand Paul. I can provide you some links, if you’re too ignorant to educate yourself, and you pay me.

                • David Lindsay

                  Well, we shall see. You are terrified that he might be nominated, as might she. And then, what would you do? What would anyone who voted for Dubya, McCain and Romney do? There would be a candidate entirely in tune with your views. But she would not the candidate of the Republican Party. That would be a man whom you very recently wanted in jail.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  You can always pay me, if you need an education on what you’re ignorantly blathering about, laddie.

                  But short of that, you better accept the obvious. You hard lefties hate Rand Paul, and water is wet.

                • Drakken

                  After what has happened in Benghazi and state dept scandals Hillary has a lot of explaining to do before she gets the nod from the DNC.

          • Drakken

            God help us !

      • Drakken

        Your throwing out the race card has zero meaning anymore because you Marxist/leftist have used and abused the word, the reason so many Americans despise Comrade Obummer is because nobody can believe a word out of his smug lying progressive mouth.

      • ArchiePonsonby

        Er, Nixon was threatened with impeachment and Slick Willy-Jeff, and if memory serves they were white?

    • HookesLaw

      And why should he be impeached? I must say I like it when you talk such obvious rubbish. It gives the world a demonstration of nutjobitis. In this you share a trait with the Nobel Prize Committee.

      • Tom Tom

        4th Amendment of the Us Constitution; 1st Amendment US Constitution; failure to honour his Oath of Office
        “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the
        Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my
        Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United
        States.”

    • allymax bruce

      Get a life.

  • paulus

    Whats not to like the man kills people like he’s playing…. call of duty 111, whilst sniffing a big bag of coke. He’s only liberal in the literal sense of the word, not the lefty guardian interpretation.Hell he is even starving to death the inmates of gitmo,although to be fair he did say he will close it, I bet Hasan didn’t realise how he was going to clear it.

  • Ben Cobley

    Obama got himself the honour of addressing Parliament here a few years ago and was dreadfully dull, despite the gushing of our star-struck politicians. The speech he read out could have been picked off a shelf somewhere it was so boring.

    http://afreeleftblog.blogspot.co.uk/

    • paulus

      Well we can always console ourselves reading your pearls of prose and poetry

    • Colonel Mustard

      Quite a hill to climb if you’re going to challenge left-wing “groupthink”. Most modern lefties don’t even know the meaning of the word “free”.

      • dalai guevara

        Now now, the biggest threat to our ‘free’ society right now surely are Theresa May, Chris Grayling and coming to think about it, Oliver Letwin.
        One thing is certain, they will never even shortlist for that lefty of all prizes awarded by the Norwegians. Perhaps it is time to recognise the true reactionary element of their ‘leftyism’?
        What horse excrement.

        • Colonel Mustard

          Nothing is certain, except death and taxes. And perhaps your tedious penchant for stalking and playing the part of the sage admonishing the wayward.

          All modern politicians threaten our freedom, have eroded it. Those you mention are hardly much further along the line and inspire no particular confidence but New Labour’s gang was rather special when it came to authoritarian tosspottery. When it comes down to it not much is required to reveal the fascist lurking inside every lefty I have ever met, as these pages sadly reveal.

          • dalai guevara

            Name o n e ‘lefty’ in Britain today that could come up with what Mother Theresa has come up with to date.

            You speak of stalking, yet you come out with some donkey dung so obnoxious, I contest there would be anyone who would even dare to go near it.

    • telemachus

      Let’s think about terms like ‘social justice’ and ‘a fair society’ for example. These terms have little meaning in and of themselves –something you can gauge from the absence of anyone using their opposites: very few people would seriously say they wished for ‘social injustice’ and ‘an unfair society’.
      *
      I challenge your assumptions
      The majority of parishioners here preach just the kind of unthinking uncaring deeds you feel are the preserve of a “very few people”

      • Drakken

        Those terms social justice and a fair society is nothing more than communism.