Apart from waterboarding, what will it take to get our enervated and dissembling ruling elite to discuss immigration and Europe?

And what a surprise: no mention of the EU either. Or does “Give people more power and control.” embrace the intention to wrest power back from Brussels?

Is it just me or do those 6 points look remarkably like Bliar’s New-Lab promises back in ’97?

It is a frothy triangle with very few nuggets of any substance inside. It could be paraphrased it as “Let’s change the snouts in the trough and carry on much as before” and most of it could be used by any party.

The Conservatives are still insistently saying nothing about freedom.

Vote Candyfloss?

djw2009 – Yep-handsomely said.

Let-Lab-win’s triangle = The Bermuda Triangle.

Sad to see that Conservative policies are confined exclusively these days to the BNP and UKIP.

“The diagram above is not a full blown tory policy document and its going to have things missing that people care about.”

F*** me mate, a lot of people are praying you’re correct on that one.

Tipping point?

My first and last post on this subject.

The election is a two horse race, either labour or the tories will be in control after May 6.

Anyone who believes that their vote for UKIP/greens/ lib dems will result in that party winning the election is in cloudcuckooland. If you’re using it as a protest vote, well more fool you.

The idea is to get rid of this government whatever, if that does not happen, and labour win, i believe that through gerrymandering, boundary changes, more postal voting, we will never get them out.

So before you all start self-harming again, think about where this is all going. Labour winning is the really scary bit and if you vote other that tory, it will your own fault.

The diagram above is not a full blown tory policy document and its going to have things missing that people care about.

And Verity, every single post ends up about Dave personally doesn’t it?

Although I am normally a Tory voter, the next Tory government does not fill me with enthusiasm.

They’ve got one thing right:

“We can’t go on like this”.

It’s as if we’re split between two parallel universes: the political class and their media chums are living in one, and the rest of us are living in the other …

Paul Hawkins: “…trying to mislead deliberately.” No, djw2009 is trying and succeeding, most eloquently, to expose the crap that the modern Tory Party has become.

This all seems a bit timid and I see nothing about immigration (which I thought they had promised to cap), smaller government, civil liberties or curbing the police. In fact within the rhetoric are quite a few concessions to nannyism.

djw2009 – I absolutely love you! You 100% correct. Might I add though that the Lieabour Party are exactly the same!

djw numbers – don’t try the usual stale tricks. You are welcome to hold an opinion of how this may pan out in the future but don’t try to present it as fact. It is not. Or are you trying to mislead deliberately?

Promise 1: action on debt: the Conservatives will cut only £1.8bn this year, and have refused to make any commitment to abolishing the quangocracy. THIS PROMISE IS A LIE.

Promise 2: boosting enterprise: corporation tax may be cut slightly, but other taxes will go up, and the promise to get people off welfare into work is weak – Mrs Thatcher didn’t do that either. THIS PROMISE IS A LIE.

Promise 3: make Britain family-friendly: the Tories are pro-gay and their “family” definition includes gay men. Gay men will adopt children under a Tory government, children will be subject to constant propaganda on sexuality at school. Fight back on crime? Oh please, you’re too politically correct to do much. THIS PROMISE IS A LIE.

Promise 4: back the NHS: because they won’t countenance reform, spending on bureaucracy will go up ever year under the Tories. The NHS will work for managers even more than it does now. THIS PROMISE IS A LIE.

Promise 5: raise standards in schools: the Conservatives are opposed to corporal punishment in schools and will not undertake to make the GCSE exam standards at least as tough as the old O levels (which weren’t tough). A few schools will be set up by parents – they may do better than schools under bureacratic control, but the truth is that there is not the determination among the middle class to overturn politically correct teaching, and so the new free schools will underperform too. THIS PROMISE IS A LIE.

Promise 6: change politics: I don’t believe quangos will be cut by 10%, never mind a third, and people without pension provision will still pay through their taxes for the pensions of the quangocrats and MPs. THIS PROMISE IS A LIE.

THE SECRET PROMISES OF THE TORIES:
1) The EU will continue to make 70% of our laws
2) Immigration will continue, and hundreds of thousands from outside Europe will be dished out our passports
3) Multiculturalism will continue unchecked. The Commission for Racial Equality will remain in existence, and its members will not be prosecuted for abuse of power. Every company up and down the land will be forced to take part in these political campaigns.
4) The health and safety lobby will remain unchecked. Officials who issue absurd rulings will not be prosecuted for abuse of power.
5) The welfare state will remain in existence in its present form. 16 year olds who get pregnant will continue to get houses and benefits for life. Benefit scroungers will continue to have their council tax paid for them – corrupting local democracy.
6) The quangocrat scroungers will live high on the hog under the conservatives. The BBC’s chief executive’s £800,000 a year will be increased under the conservatives, and licence payers will continue to contribute to his pension. More quangos will be created, and more of the business of government will be done by unaccountable quangos who can pay themselves what they like.
7) Bogus charities like the NSPCC whose work consists mainly of political propaganda will continue to be largely subsidised by the taxpayer. Charities will not be compelled to engage in good works. They will continue to run in the interests of their staff, diverting the bulk of any contributions from the public into lavish pay and pensions. Islamic charities funded by the taxpayer will divert funds into terrorism with the knowing acceptance of the Conservative Party.

In the waterboarding queue, frankly, I would allow Jack Straw to take precedence over Gordon Brown for firsties.

Why only cut Quango’s by a third? What happened to the bonfire?

Ah dear Mr Letwin. The thinking genius’ wonk.

To be frank, given his form, I’m quite suprised this isn’t a 3 dimensional tetra-nonagon.