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If Brussels feared a terrorist attack, why was its airport security so lax?

22 March 2016

2:58 PM

22 March 2016

2:58 PM

This morning, we woke up to the terrible news that two bombs had exploded in Brussels airport. Having been through it a few days ago, unfortunately I can’t say I’m surprised that this attack has happened in this particular airport.

When I arrived at Brussels airport on Sunday I expected to see a heavy police presence, especially given that Salah Abdeslam – the terror suspect who had been on the run since the Paris attacks – had been arrested two days previously in Brussels. Even then, the authorities had been warning of a retaliatory attack. And for good reason: a large number of weapons had also been found in raids in the Molenbeek district of the city earlier in the week, which may have suggested that another Paris style attack was imminent.

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The bomb blasts that took place today appear to have happened within the check-in areas of the airport, which are pre-security checks, but in the circumstances you’d expect a police presence even there. I was astonished to find no police presence at all in the check-in area, no police sniffer dogs, not even the token armed police officer you often see patrolling airports.

I was flying from Brussels to Basel and after scanning my boarding pass to enter the security area there were not even any passport checks in place. I assume this is because of Schengen*, but it didn’t exactly fill me with confidence. I then headed to the queue for the security screening where again there was a distinct lack of security. The woman ahead of me in the line refused to remove her liquids from her hand luggage. Rather than argue with her, the security guard waved the woman through. Not what you would expect from a country that is supposedly on high alert for a terrorist attack.

Sophie Ryan is a staff member at The Spectator.

* If this French journalist is to be believed, the security at the airport was lax even by local standards.

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  • WarriorPrincess111111

    i really can’t help but take sides with the sceptics on this one. First we are told that the EU has combined all security agencies so that they are all informed as to the identity of those terrorists who may pose a threat to any country. Then we are told that Turkey actually arrested one of the Brussel Bombers last week?? Then we are told that although Europe was on a high security alert, the bombers – known to security agencies – were allowed to travel to Brussels and did so without their luggage being searched?? Then we are told these were suicide bombers – who seem to have failed their mission completely as they were still alive – possibly really p….g off their Allah Akbar or whatever!
    Now we understand that these terrorists were identified by their fingerprints at the tragic scene – how did they find those in among all the burnt debris?? It was burnt in a bomb explosion, yes?? Even more strange is the fact that although a passport was found in the British underground bombing – there was none found at the airport where a terrorist would need a passport?? Then we see photos of the terrorists with a luggage cart at the airport – why would they carry so much luggage requiring a cart if they were committing suicide?? Or even if they were going to do a runner afterwards??
    If that is not enough – we then understand from a leading newspaper that the footage of the tragedy shown, was not actually taken at the Brussels incident, but was taken of another incident in another country last year?? Does anyone have any explanation please?

  • dg_brussels

    Never commented on your pages before, but logged in to commend this article. I’ve lived in Brussels for 20 years, and can agree with you on all points. Not just at the airport, but also at the Eurostar at Brussels Midi. I’m a regular traveler on both planes and trains and am constantly amazed at the total lack of security in Brussels generally. I’m not saying they don’t have metal detectors and all the rest. It’s the complete lack of awareness or care for security. Like you say, people being waved through, or airport staff and security staff walking back and forwards through the systems with impunity, and most of the staff chatting and laughing with each other more than actually focusing on what they’re meant to do. And the whole system is built on the flawed premise that the terrorists are trying to get onto the planes.

    It’s “security theater” on a grand scale. And unfortunately, as with Brussels yesterday, the terrorists aren’t stupid, they’ll just use different tactics. Defeating all those security systems that are meant to protect us isn’t hard, just do your business before you get to security.

    Having said all that, you only need to go through the cattle handling
    systems at Manchester, Edinburgh or Heathrow airports and actually watch
    what’s going on to see that it is totally pointless.

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  • Kasperlos

    Astute observations. It is Belgium after all. The best security is that which you provide yourself. That said, we the tax slaves could at least expect a bit of work of our jobsworth class. Not. The political classes have betrayed us for 25 years now – and with these repeated events a few of the masses are crawling out of their zombie state to scratch their head – or elsewhere – and are starting to ask questions. It just might be too late for Europe. The enemy was invited in by the millions. Cobra Dave certainly won’t save anyone.

  • Diego De Backer

    I m in this airport once a month and never had such an easy path as you for the metal checkpoint and security. Either it s BS to put down Belgium, either oyu go the one day free pass because salary there went down or no syndicate agreement. If you check well anyway the people working in the airport, some people can be sympathisant with EI anyway, as in France, as In England…it s too late and that s all

  • Maureen Fisher

    Security is never lax when it comes to frisking elderly white pensioners, the favourite target of airport officials.

  • Vinnie

    because the attack was deliberate?

  • WarriorPrincess111111

    There was lax security in the airport because possibly the security services were focussed on protecting valuable government buildings and vulnerable services/ supplies in response to a terrorist warning! Since this is where there would be a far more shocking outcome with a far greater number of casualties.

  • Terry Firma

    I love Belgium beyond reason, and seriously hope to retire there some day, but the headline comes from a misunderstanding. Everything, EVERYTHING is lax in Belgium.

    • Father Todd Unctious

      Well they are Spanish. I love Belgium too. Nothing so moving as Ieper on Armistice day. For Brits the drinks are free all day and Germans are not welcome.

  • abystander

    One person arriving at an airport is not in a position to assess whether security is lax or not.

    It is clear from press reports that soldiers were present at the airport when the attack occurred.

  • Ingmar Blessing

    I guess the lax security is intended to increase the security: First they keep it low, then some especially devoted muslim blows himself up and then they have the perfect reason to increase the super surveillance for everyone. I bet, at the end of this decade we’re all going to run around with Orwellian positioning chips and microphones which record anything we say. Oh, wait. We’re already doing that. It’s called smartphone..

    Bottom line: My mood is settled to throw out all muslims. Yes, all of them. Since we’re not allow to distinct between the sensible and the crazy it is all of them or none of them. I take all of them. Just throw them in the arabian desert. Between Mogadischu and Kabul is more than enough space for their crazy-sharia-blow-up-circus.

    • Graham Thompson

      Why are you not allowed “to distinct between the sensible and the crazy” and who is not allowing you?

      • Ingmar Blessing

        The authorities. The media. The progressive left.

        • Graham Thompson

          So if you were to say something like ‘I’m very concerned about violent islamists like ISIS and Al Qaeda, but I think most muslims are perfectly reasonable, peaceful people’, what happens to you?

          Black helicopters?

          • Ingmar Blessing

            No, they simply do nothing about keeping the terrorists out of the country by separating the real refugees from the terrorists. They let in everyone and tell me it’s impossible to control the border and that there aren’t any terrorists among them. Oh, and I’m also obliged to pay for their pocket money, their medical bills and their criminal/violent behavior.

            But I’m the xenophobic one here..

            • Graham Thompson

              Well, given that we don’t know who committed this attack, but we do know that not one of the Paris attackers was a refugee, yes, maybe you are.

              • Ingmar Blessing

                Are you sure about the Paris attackers? I believe one of them came via the Balkan to Europe. And who else should have been that today? The Flamic liberation front? Or maybe the Wallonian? Possibly a EU bureaucrat who doesn’t get a promotion?

              • Ingmar Blessing

                Oh, another one concerning my “xenophobic islamophobia”. Here’s a study conducted by the police of lower saxony about religion and crime:

                https://kfn.de/versions/kfn/assets/fob109.pdf

                It turns out that the more religious young people are, the less crimes they commit – with one exception: The religion of pieces. The more religious they are the more criminal they are. Quite fantastic, isn’t it?

                The ratio is 4:1 muslims to others, if you consider their socio-economic background. If you don’t do that, you’ll end up at a ratio of 20:1 !

                So, you have 100 criminals and 5 of them are NOT followers of the prophet – of all sexual abusers and other criminals – Mohammed.

                Not bad, don’t you think? In Germany we have about 80.000 prisoners, about 4.000 are not muslims (and muslims get a well known and discussed discount because their families know how to threaten a judge).

                They serve halal food in the prisons and when they built something new in one of the prisons they make sure the toilets aren’t directed to Mekka…

                German prisons are basicly mosques.

                More of that? No thanks!

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  So you deny the far right’s faith…not included there. Much higher crime rate.

                  As you talk about your selective caring about crime. And show your ignorance of who’s in jail… magical discounts… not persecuting people for their faith…

                • Ingmar Blessing

                  Well Islam is the common ground of the vast majority of German perpetrators. Some are Afghan, some are Somali, some Libanese, some Turks. They all have their own language and their culture. What they all have in common is: Islam… well and a significant problem with education.

                • Gilbert White

                  Why do they always point their anuses at Mecca coming to land though?

            • Leon Wolfeson

              Oh right, so you object to tax, to allowing any refugees…

    • El_Sid

      At last, a true Crusader! “Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.” as they used to say on the Albigensian Crusade.

      • Father Todd Unctious

        Is that Latin American?

      • Ingmar Blessing

        My fear is that at one point it will be “Praecidite capitibus uel adepto abscissum caput.”

        At least that’s what the translator says about “Chopping off heads or getting the head chopped off”

        I give that ultimate nightmare scenario a 5% chance of happening on a broad scale somewhen in the next 15 years in Germany.

        That is too much. Crazy stuff like that is supposed to have a 1 in a trillion chance of happening.

  • 100

    Person with a suitcase in an airport- hardly something that is going to alert security.
    Unless you propose security checks moved to the front doors, which then pushes the crowds outside from which once again the suicide bomber has another perfect target………

  • Bonkim

    It happened because Hercule Poirot was solving a murder mystery in Blackpool.

    • Father Todd Unctious

      In 1935.

      • Bonkim

        Terrorism, political assassinations, and anarchy were widespread across the globe a hundred years back. As also organized criminal gangs.

        • Father Todd Unctious

          1940 was76 years ago.

  • rationality

    Rather like when NORAD stood down before the 9/11 attacks or
    The security (ha!) services say that an attack is due and then there is a spectacular atrocity which they couldnt or wouldnt stop or
    When people say that mass immigration will cause terrorism and get called the made up word ‘racist’ or
    When the EU deliberately mishandle a policy and it goes wrong they demand more power

    We are being played by psychopaths that go by many names and aka’s. This would not have happened without their involvement as they stir up hate and division between us and the unwanted Muslims. This is indeed a clash of civilisations and the world is getting more vocal about kicking these people out of their countries as they have been in the past wherever they spread their malice and hate.

    Thats why the security was so lax and 35 or more Belgians died today.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      It’s your clash with the West and democracy? Right.

      As you claim to be the world, there on your far right, as you spread your malice and hate…

      • rationality

        My malice and hate? Not the hate that caused 35+ dead today or 100s injured. Or the 3000 murdered for a ‘Pearl Harbor style incident’ to start this sorry tale of evil and destruction?

        Leon. No ones listening to you. People are too concerned for their country and their future to give a toss about your paranoid hysteria.

        • Leon Wolfeson

          So your malice and hate is better.. as you talk about yourself.

          As you scream you’re everyone, as you claim my concern for my country (Britain) and my future, given your opposition to it, as you scream your intolerance, alighting yourself with the fanatics…

          • rationality

            I cant be bothered with this tonight.

            • Leon Wolfeson

              Ah, no counter-arguments. Well then!

              • rationality

                I’ve said you were named after the mass murder psychopath Leon Trotsky, I use the name you insult me with as a user name on the Guardian, your posts are counter productive and you have zero effect on red pilling on this site.

                And you take that as a win?

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  You’ve make wild claims based on pseudonym, spewing hate as you spam onwards, as you admit you’re a lowlife spammer – spammers should go to jail for long periods.

                  As I don’t poison people, which to you is counterproductive….

                  “a win”

                  Ahh, win-drome.

                • rationality

                  So you wont call me spaminality any more? Oh. Dont be so mean!

                  I see you are your usual lucid self as ever. And AA Bill seems delighted to engage with you. I suppose being called mad by every poster is a ‘win’ too?

  • anotherjoeblogs

    This is the capital of Europe, is it not ?

    • Bluesman_1

      No – only an admin centre.

    • Father Todd Unctious

      No. The capital of Europe is Rome.

    • Conway

      No this is one European capital. Others are available. Paris has already had its share, so maybe it’ll be Berlin next.

  • Graeme S

    Don’t blame the Belgians … Blame the bloody savage buggers who murdered these people.
    This happened at pre- security areas, a very soft target indeed.this is without about looking like a murdering European road trip……Madrid, London, Paris , Brussels . Who is next… It is unfortunately inevitable .

    • eat your greens

      Such a shame none of the leftards are listening.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      Yes, as long as airports are open…

  • David B

    Laws do not make people safer, it is the proper implementation of those laws that protects us.

    The EU has a major problem in that, in the interests of the political project, they do not want to implement the laws on flight security because it would be seen as a breach of the “free movement” provisions, but free movement of people should not mean no inspection of people moving

    • Leon Wolfeson

      So you blame the EU for your fantasies.

      As you ignore the fact the UK isn’t in Schengen, etc.

      • David B

        I think you will find I was taking about Belgium. But never let facts get in the way Leon

        • Leon Wolfeson

          Ah, so you actually admit there’s more and not less communication needed. Well.

          • David B

            Well considering I was posting on a thread about Brussel I thought it was obvious! Seems not

  • hepworth

    Why was security so lax?
    the last time I went to Belgium the staff tasked with security were about 90% ROP. That’s why.

    • Gilbert White

      Why ask awkward questions from our EU elite when we should all stand together, at a time like this like Cameron says? Lets sing McCartney’s frog song in chorus, while we all stand together?

    • Father Todd Unctious

      They are Spanish.

      • hepworth

        No they are not.

        • Father Todd Unctious

          Check the history. Check the culture. Check the DNA.

        • Father Todd Unctious

          Yes they are. Culturally Spanish. Hundreds of years as the Kingdom of the Spanish Netherlands gave them a Spanish Xmas, outdoor cafe culture in hostile northern climate and lazy corrupt officials.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      Ah yes, thought crime…

  • RavenRandom

    The death cult virus is embedded in Islam. Surely the first step is to stop importing more carriers, namely refugees.
    Brussels has no go areas that are very intimidating. I suggest the Belgians try spreading the rule of law into the areas where they’ve allowed the virus to propagate.
    Until then the politicians will say “We stand with…” victim city of the month, do nothing and then ten days later argue about how many more virus gestating refugees we should let in.

    • Tom M

      I agree it’s too easy for Hollande or whoever to announce a big crackdown or bomb Syria or whatever following an atrocity. Perhaps a few token military style excercises in some no-go area, the true net effect of which might be debatable.
      What will have an effect though is what happened after Paris when they closed down Brussels for a few days. That they cannot do too often. That smacks of the terrorists winning and too many people, important people, would be losing money.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      So you claim to be embedded in Islam…can’t let people flee people like you…

      • RavenRandom

        Your post doesn’t make sense.

        • Leon Wolfeson

          It’s based on your post, so…

          • RavenRandom

            You also appear to struggle to finish sentences. Good luck in your next attempt to make sense.

            • Leon Wolfeson

              So you don’t bother reading my post and whine instead, based on your poor English.

              My. Post. Based. On. Your. Post.
              If. Sense. Lacking. Your. Fault.

              • RavenRandom

                No I read your post. It doesn’t make sense. You don’t make sense. You are not capable of articulating your points clearly. If indeed you have any points other than a sneer, a half-finished sentence and permanent sense of grievance. Do calm down, I fear you’re getting stressed.

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  So you can’t read English, right, as you “fear” your bigoted slurs… “U NO ARTICULATE”…

                  As you ignore my condemnation of terrorism, that “grievance” I have…

                • RavenRandom

                  Are you okay? Your thinking appears to be fracturing.
                  I know nothing about you condemning terrorism (check this thread, that might be another debate you’re involved in). But if you do that’s nice. I’m happy for you. Meanwhile do try harder to be clear.

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  So you think you can magically fracture terrorism.

                  And I should be…oh, right, Clear like a Scientologist. You think my thetans are out of balance, eh?
                  Actually, so sorry, I’m a Suppressive Personality. Yes, I managed to piss off the CoS. (heh)

                • RavenRandom

                  Well that’s a fine pile of gibberish. Try to focus, remember which conversation you’re having and avoid inventing things. You should take a breath and relax, your posts read like you’re having a meltdown.

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  Stop writing it then, as you blame me for your issues. Thanks, Scientologist.

                  (You really need to re-read the bit where you’re not supposed to mix with SP’s you know)

                • RavenRandom

                  How strange you are. And so very sad. I doubt I’m the first to say this, but whatever drives you to this hysterical, hyperactive, invented nonsense needs fixing.

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  “UR STRANGE”
                  “UR SAD”

                  And you want thugs to beat me for for daring to speak out against your Scientologist dogma? Well well. That’d be “fair game”, and you’re not supposed to admit that happens.

                • RavenRandom

                  You really are pathetic. Perhaps even deranged.

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  “UR PATHETIC”
                  “UR DERANGED”

                  Thanks, Scientologist. Accusations of mental issues because I don’t do your Thetans, I hear you.

                • RavenRandom

                  Get help, your obsession with Scientology is odd to say the least.

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  Ah yes, pay for the courses… and the facts are “odd”…

                • rationality

                  Classy as ever Leon.

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  No surprise you come to defend Scientology, spaminality.

  • pilsden

    You shouldn’t worry as much about airside security(re the comment about passports) it is the landside that is insecure and this is true of most airports I have visited.

  • post_x_it

    “…after scanning my boarding pass to enter the security area there were no passport checks in place. I assume this is because of the Schengen agreement, but it didn’t exactly fill me with confidence.”
    Erm, yes, this is the whole point of the Schengen agreement. On what basis exactly did you expect your passport to be checked?
    Incidentally, are you even aware that at UK airports there are no passport checks at all for anyone flying out? This is despite our not being part of the Schengen agreement. In other European countries at least they check the passports of people flying outside the Schengen zone.

    • Bonkim

      This chap was travelling to Basle – not in the Schengen area – one would have expected many others with foreign passports and not entitled to visa free travel to be amongst those checking in.

      Also the silly lady allowed to take her potions with her – she should have been told to go back and get rid of the liquids.

      • post_x_it

        You are quite wrong. First of all I have my doubts that Sophie Ryan is a chap. Secondly, Basle is in Switzerland which (despite not being an EU member) is indeed within the Schengen agreement.

  • Planet Vague

    Surely the various Go Leave campaigners will have noticed that this attack on Brussels marks the end of their lacklustre exit strategy of running away from the enemy (within).

    • antoncheckout

      I rather think that the message of lacklustre defences in Brussels, with Belgian politicians and security forces constantly running away from the obvious problems in the country’s islamist ghettoes, and refusing to plan and prevent, is a message that will bypass any official ‘campaigns’ and directly speak to the British voters.

      • Hermine Funkington-Rumpelstilz

        It’s rather perfectly choreographed for the June vote. I already see the multicultural kids at the Glasto weekender jumping in joy as to the inevitable outcome of it all.

        • pdhan

          Haha you think “multicultural kids” go to Glastonbury? It’s about as white middle class as the Henley regatta.

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          • post_x_it

            It’s populated by a certain type of white middle class crowd that is fanatically dedicated to the idea of multiculturalism.

            • Leon Wolfeson

              Yea, how dare they not like oh, Sikhs and Jews in…

              • artemis in france

                Some of them will certainly be secular Jews. They are responsible for the betrayal of their more observant brothers and sisters. As if a Muslim terrorist or thug would differentiate…

                • Leon Wolfeson

                  So you decry a lot of Isralie Jews serving in the IDF, for instance. Utterly, utterly secular Jews.

                  And as if a far right terrorist or thug would differentiate…

            • Planet Vague

              That’s right. They rule over us, they dictate our culture, they spend all the money to progress their multicultural greeny ways. This is so infuriating.

          • Paul Grimaldi

            They are the only ones that can afford to go now.

          • fubar_saunders

            If not more so these days! 🙂

          • Hermine Funkington-Rumpelstilz

            I do, yes. I also believe that the perfect choreography of these terrible event will make right-minded people move closer together. I do. I do. I do. And not anyone has the power to change that.

        • Father Todd Unctious

          Typically British to turn isolationist in the face of a War. Cowards.

          • Cassandra

            That way we’re not implicated in other people’s surrender.

      • Father Todd Unctious

        Belgians are ethnically and/or culturally Spanish. Does that explain it?

      • Father Todd Unctious

        Well Belgium is a Mediterranean culture, like Spain or Greece.

        • JabbaPapa

          Ludicrous.

          • Father Todd Unctious

            Do explain.

            • Tamerlane

              Pompous fool.

        • #toryscum

          Idiot

          • Father Todd Unctious

            Mr Toryscum. With your Texas redneck moniker. Which bit of my lucid explanation of Belgian culture makes me an idiot?

            • JabbaPapa

              Hallo “Phil”.

              • Father Todd Unctious

                Hello is the normal English.

                • JabbaPapa

                  You’re one of those despicable Barclaygraph trolls anyway, and BTW how’s your Anti Moly these days ?

                  Hello is the normal English

                  Hallo, Mr Abnormal Fool !!!

                • Father Todd Unctious

                  Who the hey is Phil anyway?

            • #toryscum

              I was merely adopting your own style of rebuttal

        • Tamerlane

          It’s nothing of the sort you idiot, stop trying to be clever, for obvious reasons you’re not very good at it.

          • Father Todd Unctious

            So you missed the point too. No surprise. For 200 years from around 1600 this as the Kingdom of the Spanish Netherlands. Hence Belgians are Catholic unlike their Dutch neighbours. They have a outdoor/ cafe culture too far north for comfort. They have many Spanish traditions like carnivals and the evil Sinterklaas at Xmas. Who takes all the badly behaved children back to Spain.
            Most obvious today is like the PIIGS nations Belgium carries high levels of national debt, has stagnant growth rates and chaotic coalition governments. Again, elgium has a Mediterranean culture inherited from its 7 generations as part of Spain.

            • Tamerlane

              There is no point for me to miss because you do not have one. Do you have any original ideas of your own or do you just copy/paste from other books because your small little brain is easily impressed by anything that appears different? That Belgium was ruled by the Spanish for two hundred years is neither here nor there, a cultural and genetic imprint doesn’t require longevity. Longevity has nothing to do with it. The flip side being the very short period of time the Romans governed Romania and yet how Romanised the region became and remains (clue’s in the name Yvonne/Barry). Longevity is an irrelevant factor in the @rse brained moronic argument you are trying to make. You have simply gone ‘oh look, the Spanish were in charge for a while, so I’ll say that makes the Belgians Spanish and then everyone will think I’m clever’. It’s about as much as your tiny little synapses can manage, as I’ve explained to you before Yvonne/Barry – information is not knowledge, you don’t understand that, most likely because you were never properly educated as a child and came late to the world of knowledge and information and so can’t distinguish. I can not educate you all of the time, only some if it, so when I’m not around, as I’ve said before – AT LEAST TRY.

              • Father Todd Unctious

                Looks like I yanked your chain again shill. Why do you get so upset that I know more about most cultures than you ever will? You have such little!e man syndrome feedi g your inferiority complex.
                You add nothing but glib assertions and insults.

                • Tamerlane

                  Just try. It ain’t hard Yvonne/Barry, it ain’t.

                • Father Todd Unctious

                  That makes no sense. Just try what?

                • Tamerlane

                  You can’t even understand. More fool you I suppose.

          • Father Todd Unctious

            Stop trying to mount a coherent opposition to me. You are utterly useless at it. You have so little to say, other than simple gsi saying or base insult. You are not just out of your league, you are still trying to do up your shoelaces.

    • Bonkim

      Enemy without can be stopped by leaving.

      • Father Todd Unctious

        No it can’t.

      • Leon Wolfeson

        Yes, do feel free to leave.

        • clampos

          Your smarmy comments to anyone who appears to want to vote “Out” in the EU referendum betray that you have no interest on this discussion board except to do a bit of virtue-signalling (copyright J. Bartholomew, 2015) and finger-wagging at all those dirty racist savages that comment on Speccie articles. You’re a great guy, everyone gets it!

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Smarmy? I was entirely serious.

            I was commenting to one specific person. As you signal for hate and bigotry, and that you’re by your words a ” dirty racist savage” is you, personally, and not collectively.

            “all those”, collectivism , is entirely yours, as well as your “everyone” fantasy…

    • 100

      really.

      i would have though control of our borders together with our ability to formulate our own human rights legislation (which we can) will allow us to stop incoming threats, stop returning threats from Syria, and move on to whatever level of internal checks, interment, profiling, restrictions, controls, curfews etc that we want together (without interference from outside sources) with a restructured justice system that puts up a proper deterrent and exclusion penalties for those enemies (within). Compared to current “in” position that moves us a pretty significantly forward security wise.

      And before you retort that we cant do this or that because of UN, international Law, UNCHR etc. we YES WE CAN, we can chose as an independent nation what if any of those rules we feel the need to exempt ourselves from. Like many other nations do without recourse, bar a few huffs & puffs in high places.

      ITS CALLED ABSOLUTE SOVEREIGNTY

      • Leon Wolfeson

        Rather than Parliamentary Sovereignty…right.

        And we can behave like the worst of other nations..

        Block the borders, you say, abolish rights, set up a police state, abolish the justice system and have a victimization one instead…aimed at those with other views…

        Yes, we could be a Pariah like NK!

        • 100

          Sounds good to me.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            And I’ll stand for Britain against enemies of it like you.

        • 100

          Only the threats would have to worry, decent people wouldn’t, appeasers would have to worry, those like you who think murderers rights are paramount. You people make me physically sick you are the useful liberal idiots the tools of those control you. In summary you are Stupi cnuts. We will be well shot of you. #brexit!

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Ah yes, normal people would be terrorised, as your few “decent people”, your elite…your superior people, above the law simply because they held your views…

            “appeasers” .. ah yes, those who don’t match your criteria for hate, your target…
            anyone who believes in any form of human rights and equality before the law, your target…

            You’re “sick” of…your own PC bigotry, and want to rid of Jews like me. #ohlookat100alowlife

            • 100

              RUN ALONG NOTHING TO SEE HERE GO AND READ THE LIBERAL TIMES IN A SAFE SPACE DONT WANT ANY TRIGGERING TO UPSET YOUR TINY LIBERAL PEA BRAIN. VAMANOUS PEST!!!

              • Leon Wolfeson

                Mr. Screamy VAMANOUS PEST!!!, as you call yourself;

                Ah, you’re an American whiner who has no idea about British politics and has odd ideas about liberals here. And why would physical safe spaces be needed against the physical aggression of your far right, hmm?

                “Liberal Times”

                Oh dear, you didn’t even bother looking up the name of a newspaper here (to be wrong about probably, of course, but…)

                Your silly PC accusations…

          • #toryscum

            Because the police are a model of honest reliability?

            • 100

              ive never had a problem with the British Police, its usually those that are of dubious character that seem to fear the British Police. Might you be one of those or just another SJW?

              • #toryscum

                I’m a former british police officer.
                Where are you from?

                • 100

                  sure you were

    • Conway

      Rather they have appreciated the lie this gives to the idiotic claim that we are safer in the EU (or Europe as the Innards like to call it).

    • Roger Hudson

      Call me dim but I haven’t a clue what you mean.

  • DavidL

    Complacency rules in Brussels. It has done for decades.

    • In2minds

      “Complacency rules in Brussels….” And using Operation Midland as a litmus test we can but wonder how good the UK police are at the important things?

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