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A select committee revelation: the doors were painted red 20 years ago

26 January 2016

7:44 PM

26 January 2016

7:44 PM

The whole purpose of parliamentary select committees was supposed to be to help inform policy-making. Instead, they have sunk to becoming rather vulgar kangaroo courts used by wannabe barristers of the backbenchers to boost their egos. It took about five minutes at today’s session of the Commons Home Affairs Committee to establish that neither G4S nor Jomast (the landlord which provides properties in Middlesbrough for the housing of asylum-seekers) have a policy of deliberately painting front doors red in order to help identify the occupants as asylum-seekers. Only 59 per cent of properties in the town occupied by asylum-seekers are red, it turns out. Moreover, the doors have been painted red for 20 years – long before they were used to house asylum-seekers.

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That didn’t stop MPs, between playing with their smartphones, from spending another hour and a half subjecting two men from G4S and Stuart Monk, the owner of Jomast, to a hostile and pointless inquisition. Chuka Umunna, for example, set out on a path of trying to get Monk to admit that the houses he had bought for his property portfolio were at a price below the UK average – as if that were a big scandal. Of course they are cheap houses. Does Umunna really think that asylum-seekers should be housed in grand terraces in Chelsea at public expense – funded by taxpayers who in many cases are struggling to afford a decent home themselves?

A home in Middlesbrough might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but is there not just a possibility that a landlord who buys up cheap and decayed properties, brings them up to a decent standard and then rents them out for the housing of asylum-seekers is doing a public service? Not, apparently, to a bunch of MPs on the make.

MPs, of course, have proved partial to a bit of property investment themselves – making huge profits on London homes bought with the help of their allowances. Maybe the inquisitors of the Home Affairs committee are cross that the rules have been changed so that they can no longer charge their mortgages to the taxpayer.

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  • mikewaller

    What a stupid article! It does not matter why the doors were painted red in the first place, the key point is that once this was picked up by thugs as a marker for asylum seekers, the use of a uniform colour should have been abandoned. All this episode seems to prove is that from transporting prisoners, running penal establishments to safeguarding the Olympics and now keeping asylum seekers safe, G4 is all too often in the chocolate teapot department.

  • boiledcabbage

    How do local people feel about these ‘migrants’ being awarded housing? To go along with free health provision, benefits etc etc? A ticket to welfare for life, most probably, and for what?

    • red2black

      Who’s doing the ‘awarding’? The government is paying public money to a private company called G4S to organise the housing of immigrants. G4S are paying public money to private landlords to achieve this.

  • KittyR

    The sensitivities around asylum seekers and refugees is staggering – the censure piled on Cameron yesterday after he used the innocuous phrase ‘bunch of asylum seekers’ is yet another example of this madness. What a joke – we’ve heard next to nothing about this explanation for the red doors, yet liberal-lefties were shouting about the scandal of it all when ‘it’ all ‘came to light’. It allows dishonest asylum seekers to use our values against us and gives dishonest politicians a chance to virtue signal their way to votes in the ballot box, ignoring all the real issues of social decay and pressured public services that untrammelled immigration brings to the poorest areas in our society. Sickening.

  • Nockian

    These morons eventually eat their own. That’s what criminals do. Highly amusing that the three players are G4S a crony capitalist business entirely reliant on state money, a poxy government who are virtue signalling to their electorate and the people they displaced with all their unethical interference in sovereign countries.

  • Conway

    Does Umunna really think that asylum-seekers should be housed in grand terraces in Chelsea at public expense – funded by taxpayers who in many cases are struggling to afford a decent home themselves?” Of course he does!

  • Mongo

    OMG just when you think things couldn’t get any stupider…..

    Labour and the SJW brigade are now furious because Cameron described the Calais migrants as…er….’a bunch of migrants’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35419090

    Facepalm

    • Conway

      That’s polite compared with what I think about them! Of course, I can’t voice my opinion or I’d have my collar felt.

  • Pete Cowell

    Tories and ex Tories in UKIP love it when people at the bottom are all fighting each other from their propaganda media, while they clink their glasses at how much money they’re making off hard working British people who don’t realise they’re the main target of Tory policy. Anybody who isn’t selfish or who just wants to get by will have their life made as difficult as possible by the Tories, who will make them slaves of private landlords and bad employers.
    The Tories would sell off our nation if it made their tax dodging corporate donors who live in tax havens more money.

  • SunnyD

    one must ask why the need to publish the name and address of the victimised minorities underneath their pictures attached to an article about their alleged mistreatment and the potential collusion thereof by the housing association. what purpose does it serve? are we to send them cards?

    • Mary Ann

      Because the media have the information and lack a sense of responsibility.

  • Mary Ann

    So now we are told that it is the media who are to blame for miss-informing us, surprise, surprise, we have all this information around us and a free press, but how much do we really know, and how much does the press pander to our prejudices.

    • SunnyD

      the press are playing on our sensibilities and pushing our buttons – with the intention of painting a section of society as far right wing zealots – which wholly suits the left’s agenda. The truth of the situation is a chunk of the public are rightly concerned about what is going on within these borders and when we use the free press and there’s an outcry about what we see being reported around us words like Islamapohobia are bandied about and people get whacked with a right wing brush

    • Conway

      How much does the press (and the govt) conceal for fear it would “justify prejudice” (aka as proving people’s fears were not unfounded)?

  • Nick

    It just goes to show how loonie the loonie left are.Quibbling over the colour of doors.On yesterdays news we saw one of the red doors being painted blue.So what happens if the loonie left decide that the colour blue is singling out the asylum seekers?

    Will every colour know to humanity have to be exhausted before they are happy?

    With all the horror that there is in the world,some idiots have kicked off about the colour of a door.

    Stupid —- —– —- —- idiots.

    • LittleRedRidingHood

      It means they are all going to vote conservative….. Sht! What have we done?
      Paint them red again.

    • Conway

      They’ll have to be painted rainbow colours, won’t they? That will go down well with the islamics once they know the significance!

  • Count Spencer

    Metaphorically speaking, the doors have been painted with the blood of white European women.

  • William Brown

    Similarly the red wrist-band nonsense was cooked up by, amongst others, the British No Borders Network, who ironically describe themselves as an anti capitalist movement. Odd, isn’t it, that todays rampant, tax evading capitalists are advocating and implementing the same strategy. Whether Lenin actually said it, or not, the term ‘useful idiots’ could never be more appropriate.

    • Malcolm Stevas

      Agreed. It also struck me as very odd that anarchists should be supporting the importation of Muslims, whose rigid theocracy is as far as it’s possible to get from anarchy. Maybe these people are just very stupid.

      • William Brown

        D’you think? : )

  • LittleRedRidingHood

    Will all those commentators now come out and publicly apologise for their inane and baseless accusations have put these people through so much stress?

  • Malcolm Stevas

    There seems no end to the vile inhuman subterfuges of the capitalist, racist rentier classes: painting their doors a particular colour many years in advance, so as to try and weasel their way out of just accusations directed at them by a People’s Committee…

    • red2black

      Private sector slum landlords are coining it in at the taxpayers’ expense.

      • Malcolm Stevas

        Blame the government for making it possible.

        • red2black

          That’s fine by me.

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        In what sense….coining it?

        • Mongo

          the govt are syphoning vast sums of our money to private housing companies who are making a fortune from the immigrant industry

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Are you suggesting they are charging significantly higher rent to the government?

  • Frank

    Keith Vaz – need one say more?

    • Mongo

      Vaz Ultra – whiter than white!

  • Radford_NG

    Should “asylum seekers be housed…..in Chelsea”? Yes they should;and in Hampstead,Islington,Bath,Ruscliffe,Chipping Norton and other places needing the benefits of multi-cultural diversity.

    As for cost;one Chelsea terrace can easily house 40 young male muslim asylum seekers ;and the more Chelsea/Hampstead (etc) houses converted,so property prices will go down creating a benevolent downward spiral.

    • Jesus H Corbyn

      I agree. It’s unacceptable in a civilsed country we have people living in large million pound houses while so many live in squalid cramped downmarket accomodation

      wealthy people should be forced to convert their houses into council accomodation for asylum seekers. No rich and poor, just everyone equal. A dream I hope I shall live to see realised one day

      • red2black

        Why have New Labour and the Conservatives housed immigrants in the poorest areas, where private sector slum landlords can make a killing courtesy of social welfare handouts, while employers keep wages down to the bone and immigrant and indigent workers in hard competition with each other for jobs?

        • Jesus H Corbyn

          because New Labour and the Tories are one and the same. Blair and Cameron could be twins

          now the Labour PArty of which I am a proud lifelong member is being run by a true socialist and a man of real principles for the first time since Foot

          • red2black

            I’ve always considered people like Mr Orwell and Sr Durruti to be far more Socialist than Mr Foot or Mr Corbyn.

          • mathias broucek

            Remind me, how did it go last time?

      • BC

        All equally miserable!

      • Malcolm Stevas

        You’ve just blown your cover as a satirist or a pure-bred Corbynite lunatic.

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        It’s unacceptable that our airwaves are clogged up on a daily basis by ungrateful migrants, leftist shrills and rabid feminists supported by the LGBTXYfeckinZ brigade.

        I just want some peace and sanity to return to this once great nation.

        • Mary Ann

          Do you support ukip?

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            I’m not convinced they are the answer.

            • Mary Ann

              Well that’s a relief

              • LittleRedRidingHood

                For who? you?
                It’s no relief for me. We need someone like Churchill who is going to kick some leftist ar$e take no prisoners and bring sanity back to politics.

                • Mary Ann

                  Well as it was Churchill who was part of the movement to start the ECHR I wonder if he were that far right.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Why is it that you label being sensible, fair and free as being far right.
                  I suppose you think the Hungarian prime minister is far right. He definitely right. Right to protect his nation from the lunacy and down right criminality of the leftist agenda.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  I will also add that Churchill knew how to deal with despots and traitors and stop them in no uncertain terms.

      • gcowks

        Anyone with a £1 million house can convert it for asylum seekers and refugees if they so wish – there is nothing to stop them and no reason to wait for a law to compel them to convert their property.

      • SunnyD

        hahahahaha – that’s brilliant! you have finally overplayed your hand and shown yourself to be the agitator I knew you were. I am glad to no longer care what you say from here on out as you are clearly a keyboard warrior with too much time on his hands stirring things up and no doubt getting a kick out of the reactions

    • LittleRedRidingHood

      A sum seekers should be housed in secure units until they are processed. Full stop.

  • MathMan

    I was born in this area of Middlesbrough and still live only three miles away and walk these streets regularly on my way to Albert Park and the Dorman’s museum. The Gresham Ward is approximately a mile square and has been turned into a lawless ghetto of asylum seekers by successive governments and the submissive Labour council. The other side of the town has been occupied by Pakistanis for years.

    • Jesus H Corbyn

      and have you ever been attacked by a refugee? What is it about them that offends you so much, Kipper?

      If I lived in middlseborough I’d be happy to share my street with refugees

      • MathMan

        If you search the archive of the local evening paper, The Evening Gazette, you can find the catalogue of murders, rapes, stabbings with pictures and names of the persons involved, but I suspect you won’t because it doesn’t fit your left-wing, Rotherham-style, agenda.

        • Jesus H Corbyn

          and none of the indigenous white people in middlesborough commit crimes?

          you’re just cherry picking the cases that fit your right-wing UKIP agenda. Just as you did with the Rotherham non-scandal

          • Adam Carter

            The ‘Rotherham non-scandal’.
            I would be surprised if we get a comment to equal that for the rest of the year.
            It is mendacious, stupid, malicious and cruel about all those victims.

            • Jesus H Corbyn

              where did I say that? don’t put words into my mouth

              • Adam Carter

                Unbleievable.
                You’ve edited your own comment to take out the phrase ‘Rotherham non-scandal’.
                I quoted directly from your comment.
                You have now changed it to ‘the Rotherham case.’
                Your are a liar.

                • southerner

                  Leftards like this are habitual liars. When caught out they then accuse you of fabrication. No point trying to engage with them old son.

                • MathMan

                  Quite right. I rest my case.

                • Jesus H Corbyn

                  the right wing press were deceptively selective with the Rotherham thing. They implied that it was some sort of Muslim cultural thing, as though there are no white paedos!

                  the truth is there are child abusers of all races, for some reason they focussed on the asians and left out the whites

                • YorkshireBobby

                  Have you aver been to Rotherham? spoken to any of the families of the THOUSANDS of white female children raped and abused by “predominantly” gangs of men of Pakistani origin. You are a leftard Tw@

                • Jesus H Corbyn

                  maybe if we helped these immigrants to integrate better into society then they would learn British values quicker, and understand that that kind of behaviour is frowned upon here.

                  why would immigrants want to integrate if all they are faced with is hostility and racism from the Kipper brigade?

                • YorkshireBobby

                  You really live in a parallel world don’t you? Most of the Asians in Rotherham are muslims of second and third generation immigrants; going back to the sixties and seventies. The older generations, from my personal experience, are respectful of the local indigenous population and other than the visits to their (many) mosques they are tolerant of others with different faiths or none. A fairly significant percentage of the younger generations have no intention of integrating, and we have a number of recently formed Madrassas teaching the very young to reject integration and instead accept fundamental Islam for some crazy ideology of the middle ages.
                  There will be major implications for our children, and it’s not going to be a pleasant future.

                • BC

                  They don’t want to integrate, you idiot!

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Frowned upon!!!
                  Are you fcking kidding?
                  It is criminal and inhumane.
                  Another leftist shrill with the morals of the devil himself.

                  How much more to we have to do for them. They have everything we have and more often more. We have been one of the most tolerant societies in the face of what can only be described as an attempt at race replacement and you are saying we should do more?
                  Our tolerance is being tested and you are only now starting to see cracks in the veneer.
                  Tell me why 3rd generation Muslims hate us so much when they have had the same opportunities as all of us.

                  You are a disgrace and a traitor to the good people who built this country.

                • fubar_saunders

                  Its got to be a spoof account. Has to be. He’s as bad as Telemachus or Fabian Solutions. These guys are the masters of the parody accounts. Nobody can be that leftist without being sectioned under the Mental Health Act.

                • Malcolm Stevas

                  Why on earth should you imagine they want to integrate? Large numbers of them are economic migrants. They care nothing for our history or our culture. Many of them do not speak English even after many years’ residence. And why should they even be here without having demonstrated in advance their fluency in English, their advanced skills or qualifications that set them above indigenous English people, and their wholehearted desire to adopt fully our culture?

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Lack of integration by Muslims in this country was apparent long before UKIP even existed. 20 to 30 years ago they were agitating, demanding and playing the victim.
                  They are no different now other than they have morons like you and Mary Ann on their side standing shoulder to shoulder with the fascists of the UAF and HNH.

                • Conway

                  I remember them pushing for blasphemy laws for islam decades ago. I thought it was a bad idea then and after the Swedish cartoons and Charlie Hebdo, I’m even more convinced it should never happen!

                • mohdanga

                  How about THEY try and integrate instead of staying in ethnic ghettoes while pining for Sharia in the UK. You are retarded.

                • mdj

                  If they don’t want to integrate, why are they here?
                  Why is it the duty of the one offering sanctuary to do the adapting?

                • Jayne Tucker

                  That’s because the Rotherham paedos were muslim!

                • Mary Ann

                  But how many of them were not Muslims, the non Muslims are not newsworthy.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  In Rotherham none were non Muslim..

                  This is happening on an industrial scale across the country and the estaishment, councils, police, feminists, lefist tools are all allowing this to happen by brushing it under the carpet.
                  And you call yourself humanists.

                  You are sadists…joyfully seeing your own people violated.

                • Mary Ann

                  I don’t believe that every non Muslim in Rotherham is innocent, be realistic.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Where did I say that you ridiculous woman?!
                  Those girls know that the perpetrators are all Muslim in this child sx trafficking, we know they are and so do you.
                  Just more obfuscation form lefists who have no more excuses to give.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Oxford, Sheffield , Leicester, peterborough, Burnley, Dewsbury, bradford, Bolton, Aylesbury, London, Manchester, leeds and many many more

                  This is not an isolated case and they are all Muslim perpetrators. All trafficking and abusing non Muslim girls.

                  So quit your inane whataboutery. You are as bad as the people who allowed this to continue without sanction.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Nice to see you acknowledged you edited your comment.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Who said they don’t commit crimes you tool. Chavs are a bad as the other lot and almost as bad as the leftist progressives.
            How did it come to that? Because our governments want to create chaos to enable the totalitarian state. Hence the they are never dealt with.
            It’s just you lefty cuckolds are too interested in your utopian ideals to realise you are nurturing someone elses egg.

        • red2black
          • Jesus H Corbyn

            how many foxhunters do you think are Muslims? The people who terrorised that fox were 100% white

            • red2black

              That was my point. I’m sure they typify the type people who set fire to bins in back alleys and see anyone other than ‘their own’ as a threat.

            • LittleRedRidingHood

              And the animals terrorising the white English girls in Rotherham were/are 100% Muslim. What is your point?

            • Mr B J Mann

              Travellers with their fighting dogs?!

          • Mary Ann

            Very interesting all white apart from the Marijuana gang, and they were not from the Middle East.

            • LittleRedRidingHood

              Didn’t you know fox hunting is for the white privileged. Not sure what these chavs are playing at, it’s a bit above their station.

            • red2black

              I posted it to show the type of area, people, and problems that are typical. See my reply to JHC below.

        • Mary Ann

          Are you trying to say that white British people don’t commit crime, you know that isn’t true.

          • Jesus H Corbyn

            These Kippers believe that all crimes are commited by ethnic minorities, so pointing out counter examples just embarrasses them

            hmmm… the Hatton Garden gang seemed pretty white to me!

            truth is Whites are responsible for far more crime in teh UK than any other ethnicity

            • Speedy

              Did the Hatton Garden gang also rape 1400 kids?

            • Liberanos

              Completely true. But that’s almost inevitable, since whites are the majority by a long way. But as colour interests you, then the only figures that matter are the percentages per segment of population. In London, for instance, blacks are approximately 12% of the population. They are responsible for 54% of street crime, 46% of knife crime and 50% of gun crime. However, what’s surely more important than this is our apparent helplessness to prevent this ghastly amount of serious crime, regardless of who commits it.

            • LittleRedRidingHood

              Yet the ethnic minorities are overrepresented in prison.
              Funny that!

            • SunnyD

              hahaha don’t make me laugh – the Hatton Garden gang reached the pinnacle of crime, in that they pulled off the job without threatening or hurting anybody. Not condoning crime, just giving you the criminal fraternity’s angle on it. I wouldn’t go holding them up against the likes of immigrant s3xual molesters, you’re comparing apples and oranges

            • fubar_saunders

              All bar one of the Hatton Garden lot were banged up. Not smothered and mollycoddled by the local cops who turned a blind eye for years for fear of being called ageist.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            No he’s saying an increasing number are being committed by Muslim immigrants. A bit like what’s happening around you in France.

      • YorkshireBobby

        That’s a pretty big IF as you can’t even spell it

        • Jesus H Corbyn

          i’m glad I dont live in Middlesburgh to be honest, it sounds like it’s full of racist NAtional Front thugs who attack people based on the colour of their doors

          • Speedy

            An ivory tower in Islington is much nicer.

            • Mongo

              Corbyn’s Islington mansion you mean?

              • Conway

                He’s got a bolthole in Shropshire. We haven’t been completely enriched yet – but it’s on its way, unfortunately.

          • YorkshireBobby

            You still can’t spell it !!

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Since you’re making broad uninformed statements I’ll chip in with one of my own. I don’t know which is worse, the 3rd world detritus or leftist wingnuts such as your good self. Both seem to cause everything they touch to turn to sht!

      • Jayne Tucker

        Latest reports show that all areas with high proportions of immigrants have suffered from drastic increases in crime rates. They do not abide by the laws of this land. Maybe they just need educating on our ways or maybe they just don’t care but either way I would not be happy to have high numbers of immigrants live near me. I like to feel safe.

        • MathMan

          Stat: 5% of the population of UK is Muslim.
          Stat: 13% of the UK prison population is Muslim.

          As the Americans say: Go figure.

      • ALH

        That’s because you don’t have a vagina, only a big mouth.

        • fred finger

          I think , what you are clutching for is that he is a (big vagina). I leave you to do the real world translation.

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        And then his eyes were opened to brutal reality……”what have I done?” echoed though his mind as the mohamedans circled him in their game of taharrush gamea. Girls, boys, they don’t care….they just want it.

  • MathMan

    The Red Door story, like the Welsh Wrist Band story are red herrings put into the media by the Diversity Brigade to justify their existence. The real question to ask is why these million plus people are in UK in the first place. The Dublin Agreement states that asylum seekers must claim asylum in the first safe country they come to. In no case is that UK for obvious geographical reasons. So, every one of these people is an illegal immigrant in this country living on the British taxpayer. Vaz and his fellow hangers-on should address the real issue.

    • Mary Ann

      While I think the red door story is daft, the Welsh Wrist Band is different, they were given the wristbands to distinguish them from the rest of us, perhaps with the best of intentions, but…. The Dublin agreement is grossly unfair on countries like Greece Italy and those countries closest to Turkey. Just because some British people don’t like migrants it’s no excuse to stick these countries with the lot.

      • Mongo

        funny this NIMBYism from the virtue-signallers

        “we have plenty of room and plenty of housing in the UK….lets take
        in lots of poor desperate migrants….. (provided they don’t live next to me)”

        I’m sure you’d be happy to take several asylum seekers in your own home, Mary right?

        • KittyR

          Exactly! I live in an area where asylum seekers are housed, as well as people with mental health issues and many other social problems, and can tell you it is not easy. Our local GP services are overstretched, 2 week minimum wait to see a GP, schools struggle to make the grade for Ofsted because of the high numbers of non-English speaking households, and just the sheer difference in cultural outlook affects the look of the area and a stroll down the street. These people have no idea and never will.

      • Dick_Turpin

        Eh? The ‘Welsh wrist bands’ were given to their recipients to demonstrate that they were entitled to the food/lodgings provided to them. In exactly the same way as similar things are given to attendees at sporting/entertainment events – or holidays, or hospitals. If they were intended to distinguish and discriminate *against* anyone, it’s presumably intended to mark out British people who might be down on their luck enough to appreciate some free food and lodgings.

        They idea of them being inherently discriminatory is daft.

      • Hugh Jeego

        But aren’t these migrants good for their new host countries? Why should we deprive Turkey, Greece, Italy etc. of such a useful group of people?.

        When there’s east-bound migration into Europe, we’ll be the point of entry, presumably.

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        They should be stuck with them. They should throw them all back or contain them in a secure offshore facility until they can be processed.
        I will not stand it for a moment longer listening to idiots like you who hold extreme and naive views about a loving global society where everyone is equal. It’s bullsht and totally unobtainable.
        This migration is a disaster for Europe. It is rapidly getting out of hand and will explode before this year is out with vast swathes of previously peaceful countries being systematically turned in ghettos and war zones.
        I understand you lefties hate yourself and your whiteness, but I don’t. I love my country. I love my people and I do not want anyone to put that in jeopardy.
        Beside you are in France. I would have thought it is now obvious to you how this is going to end.

        • Conway

          She’s in Brittany – it hasn’t been enriched yet.

      • Mr B J Mann

        So you think people who go to festivals shouldn’t be given wristbands because it’s a breach of the uman Rites?!

        What about swimmers at council pools?

        And if they are refugees getting free lessons?!?!!!

    • Itinerant

      ‘should’
      but wont- Vaz has been at the forefront of propagandising for mass immigration- remember his stunt at the bus-station welcoming migrants and selling big lies, about the numbers flooding in to the UK.
      He ‘should’ have admitted later, he was spectacularly wrong about the details but wont-which is revealing of the real agenda.

  • Jesus H Corbyn

    I don’t believe these G4s scum for an instant. sad to see that segregation and apartheid is alive and well in modern britain

    even if the doors were painted years ago it’s still clear that the refugees were put into the same colour. racism plain and simple. I think the refugees should launch a lawsuit

    • Caps Lock

      You really are one very sick individual.

      • Jesus H Corbyn

        in what way?

        • Mary Ann

          Are you sure that you are not just being plain awkward?

      • BC

        Thick, more likely.

    • Mary Ann

      There wasn’t anything deliberate about the red doors, they were painted years ago, I think the real problem is the fact that a company like G4s is looking after them, it should be the local authorities paid for by central government, but then I also disapprove of the privatisation of the prison service and the NHS

      • Mongo

        who the fek do you think are paying G4s? or are they housing migrants from the goodness of their hearts?

        • Mary Ann

          G4s’s first duty is to make a profit for their share holders, the governments first duty is to look after the people they govern.

          • Mongo

            a duty that the governement is spectacularly failing at

            • Conway

              Given how many natives are homeless, the govt seems to be guilty of dereliction.

    • LittleRedRidingHood

      What a n0b. They are luckly to have a house at all. What about our homeless and poor. Don’t they fit your narrative any longer?
      Your willful idiocy makes me sick.

  • Nuahs87

    Time for the liberal backed press regulators to hammer the BBC, the Times and the Guardian is it not? an hour’s research and they could have avoided a story that greatly damaged Britain in the eyes of the world. Pathetic.

    • LittleRedRidingHood

      Traitors, the lot of them.

    • Conway

      They don’t care that Britain was “damaged in the eyes of the world”. It may even have been a bonus!

  • perdix

    Why are the two Afghan guys pictured in the UK? Surely they are not being persecuted by the Afghan State, the only reason they should be granted asylum.

    • Mongo

      once somebody is on British soil and claims asylum, their origin and backstory becomes irrelevant (and usually unprovable anyway). Hence why the Calais mob make daily attempts to break in – they know that once they’re here they’re unlikely to be deported.

    • Mary Ann

      How much of Afghanistan does the government run? Do you know more about what has happened to them than the authorities, you should pass your information on.

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        Who cares. Send them back to fight for their country. We’re going to having to fight for ours soon enough.

    • Jesus H Corbyn

      no they’re being persecuted by the Taliban. They have every right to claim asylum in the UK, especially as the British caused the mess in Afghanistan in teh first place

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        Are they? And you know how?

      • fred finger

        So the Russian invasion had nothing to do with it. What other parts of history are you rewriting.

      • Mr B J Mann

        But the Taleban are peaceful Muslims enriching Afghanistan’s diversitys of cultures!

      • mohdanga

        Err, the Taliban sheltered, aided and abetted Al Quaida, which attacked the US. Who is responsible for the mess?

      • KittyR

        “the British caused the mess in Afghanistan in the first place”. Really? I think you’ll find the history of Afghanistan is a little more complex than that. Most Afghans would agree that overall it was Afghanistan that won the victory in the three Anglo/Afghan wars of the 18th & 19th centuries and met Britain as more than equals in those conflicts. Afghanistan was also invaded by Russia, who found it equally challenging to impose on the Afghans, and I’m sure any proud Afghan would tell you that they are quite capable of taking responsibility for the mess of their own foreign and home affairs, thank you very much. Ironically you patronise them with the assumption of our might. And aside from all this, what nation on earth hasn’t had similar relations with foreign nations? If you know anything about history, you’ll know almost nowhere on earth will you find a country who hasn’t fought, attempted conquer, meddled to gain dominance. So my question is: Where does responsibility begin and end? Within a hundred years of an event? 200? A millennium?

      • ilPugliese

        I think the British adventures in Afghanistan would have a minor diversion to the inhabitants, given that war between tribes was a way of life.

    • mdj

      They may have been army interpreters for all we know. Things can be more complex than it’s wise to clarify in public.

    • ilPugliese

      They can seek asylum from persecution by anyone if their home state is unable or unwilling to provide protection. The persecution has to be as a result of race, religion, politics, etc. So it doesn’t cover persecution by speed camera. Of course countries can grant asylum on any wider basis it wants. In Britain that seems to be very wide.

  • Vinnie

    I thought the red doors symbolised that the migrants would be future Labour voters?

    • Jesus H Corbyn

      if they have any sense they will vote Labour. Labour is the progressive way forward, and Jeremy will lead us well

      • @PhilKean1

        .
        Destructive Labour-minded anarchists told the “refugees” that they should feel insulted by having red doors.

        No doubt they’re also telling them to get British taxpayers’ to fund their legal aid so they can sue the UK Government for emotional distress.
        .

        • red2black

          ‘Labour-minded anarchists’. Tee hee.

        • Mary Ann

          You should write novels.

      • Jayne Tucker

        Nobody with any sense would vote labour.

        • LittleRedRidingHood

          An oxymoron from a moron.

    • wycombewanderer

      It’s to help labour canvassers find where they live, labour are notoriously lazy and stupid they need all the help they can get.

  • WFC

    Anybody who became “outraged” by the common practice of large landlords (private and social) to have standard door colours ought to be deemed to be too stupid to be allowed to vote.

  • rationality

    The left are shamelessly stirring the pot on this causing as much resentment as possible in us. They deliberately lie to us on a non issue to gather faux outrage knowing it will annoy people to make them/us feel powerless and to sap morale. Just recognise it for the communist subversion that it is.

    • LittleRedRidingHood

      Because they know they are rumbled and people are turning against them.

      • rationality

        But they are pushing people away from them. I sense a trap and to use our discontent and any protests as a means to smear as us far right wing Nazis and an excuse for the Bolshevik Revolution v2.0.

        • LittleRedRidingHood

          I really don’t care anymore as long as Jesus H Corbyn wears a T-shirt that clearly identifies himself when he kicks off, then I’ll happily clout him around the back of his head Telling him what a stupid stupid boy he is.

  • Mongo

    pathetic that MPs take so much creedence from idiotic sensationalist and erroneous tabloid stories with an obvious agenda

    I hope the Times and the other outlets that broke this ‘scandal’ will be fined/sued, or at least issue a grovelling apology

  • The Masked Marvel

    Ah, so the evil landlord deliberately put all the lambs in homes with red doors so the racist, violent English would know where to find them. Surprised no one has tried that on yet.
    If I ran G4S, several defamation lawsuits would be in the offing.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      Well of course you’d use SLAPP’s.

  • bengeo

    Lets put a coloured wristbands on them instead.

    Also, they could wear striped pyjamas.

    And confiscate all their saving, apart from the first £1000.

    That would guarantee we only get the poorest, who will need the the most support (which also, naturally, would be most of them).

    Sorted.

    • realfish

      To equate the colours of doors or the employment of a wristband (to access a support facility) with the holocaust, takes a particularly sick mind.

      • Jesus H Corbyn

        the jews in Germany had their doors painted with stars so it’s an apt comparison

        • Hugh

          Yes, apart from the part where they’re rounded up and gassed it’s exactly the same.

          • Jesus H Corbyn

            if UKIP ever get into power it won’t be long before that starts

            • Hugh

              1) UKIP are not getting in power
              2) This comment is only marginally less silly than your last one.

              • Mary Ann

                A slight exaggeration, just the sort of thing you would expect from the right. Such as all Muslims are terrorists.

                • Hugh

                  You’re right, it is about as moronic as that.

                • Mongo

                  But most terrorists are Muslims

                • Mary Ann

                  They are at the moment, or at least the one’s we hear about are, I wonder if there are many non Muslim terrorists but we don’t get to hear of them because they are not considered newsworthy, the newspapers choose the stories that sell do we really trust the Murdochs of this world to be totally honest. There seem to be a lot of murders happening in South America, drug lords, if they kill lots of people for their own ends is that just murder or is it terrorism, and is there any real difference, if you’re dead you’re dead.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Gawd! This is supposed to be intelligent discourse.
                  Drugs – drug lords protecting their empire.
                  Muslims – what’s their excuse?

                • Conway

                  Muslims – their excuse is the instructions in their holy book.

                • Mary Ann

                  So drug lords killing is OK, you don’t mean that, do you.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  No Mary Ann I don’t mean that.
                  The wonders of the leftist mind never ceases to amaze me.

                • Andrew Cole

                  Protecting their future empire of course. Get with it.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Virtue signalling alert!

                • Mary Ann

                  Justifying for hating people who are not WASPs alert!

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Go on. Indulge me. What is a wasp?

              • SunnyD

                as much as I enjoy reading every put-down JHC receives I would urge you not to feed the troll

            • Adam Carter

              My initial reaction was to swear at you for this, but I have decided to calmly point out that you are telling a deliberate lie that is also an appalling accusation.
              You are losing the argument and you have now gone below the gutter into the sewer in your resonse.
              You are a malicious liar.You deserve no respect from decent people.

              • Jesus H Corbyn

                what lie?

                as the person below points out, UKIP will never get into power (thank God!) so we can only speculate

                but you’re right, if Nigel ever did become PM I think he would more likely target Muslims/Asians/blacks than jews

                • Adam Carter

                  The lie is that UKIP would gas people.

                • red2black

                  They’d shoot them instead.

                • Jesus H Corbyn

                  probably, it’s quicker. UKIP want to bring back the right to bear arms

                  ask yourself why that might be?

                • red2black

                  Lighten up.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  For the same reason that Germans and Austrians are clamouring to ask themselves.
                  I cannot believe anyone can be so willingly ignorant as you appear to be.

                • Mary Ann

                  The real problem with ukip is they have made it more acceptable to hate.

                • Adam Carter

                  No.
                  There is nothing in UKIP policy that leads to that conclusion.
                  That conclusion can only be drawn from looking at what people, like many on the left, claim that UKIP says.
                  I used to make this point over at the New Statesman, to you at times.
                  There is a significant difference between what UKIP says and what people claim they say.
                  Only this week you suggested that Farage has made derogatory statements about groups who are not etnically European.
                  I asked you to provide cetails of your claim; you didn’t do so.
                  I acknowledge that UKIP has a problem because of the distortions that are spoken and written about it. But I do not accept that UKIP’s official policies are in any way racist or lead to hate.

                • Mary Ann

                  Ukip aren’t stupid, it’s not in the policy, it’s in the people who represent them, foreigners on trains.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Diane Abbot. She’s openly racist. Anti white, She’s labour.
                  Labour is also riddled with feminists who openly discriminate against men.

                  Who knew that Labour was so racist and sexist.

                  Did you actually have a point?

                • Conway

                  I’m amazed that foreigners on trains represent UKIP.

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  “More acceptable to hate” That is totally and utterly the biggest, moronic piece of virtue signalling that I have every clapped my eyes on.
                  You lefty progressives will get your way soon enough as our communities are torn apart by your vandalism.
                  You’ll get the opportunity to point and say see they are haters when the good people of our nation’s refuse to let you destroy any more of what they and their ancestors built.
                  That will be the day when leftist progressives start swinging in the wind from lampposts.

                  I hoped I and my kids would live our lives without experiencing war. I think sadly this is a pipe dream on our current trajectory.

                • mohdanga

                  Muslims have done a pretty good job of encouraging people to hate them…although still waiting for the expected ‘backlash’ after the latest of hundreds of Muslim crimes/terrorist attacks.

                • Mary Ann

                  I’m not so sure, he wants to stop predominately White Christian immigration from the EU and encourage migration from the Commonwealth, encouraging all those new migrants from India and Pakistan proves that he is not anti-Muslim or anti blackish, doesn’t it?

                • Conway

                  UKIP wants to stop UNCONTROLLED immigration regardless of where it’s from. Get your facts right.

                • Jayne Tucker

                  Whereas Corbyn would only persecute the white Brirish!

                • LittleRedRidingHood

                  Based on what evidence? Unfounded and unlikely.

                  The labour sixth sense ….. I see racist people… Everywhere!

              • SunnyD

                he’s an agitator – and an oxygen thief. don’t humour him

            • Jayne Tucker

              If labour get into power it’ll be the indigenous population with the stars on their doors. It was the indigenous population of Poland that were rounded up and gassed. All through history muslims have moved into countries and tried to take over, this is happening here now and they do not try to hide the fact. It’s only because of the likes of Corbyn that they will be given a free pass to do so. They have stated they want the black flag to fly over Buckingham palace. You’re looking forward to that are you?

              • Mary Ann

                Well, unless Jesus is actually a Muslim terrorist that really is a rather silly comment. Of course we have no idea what he is, or what or who everyone else is on here.

              • Mr B J Mann

                Happening?

                Already happened in Albania, Bosnia and Kosovo!

                And with EU and NATO support!!!

            • LittleRedRidingHood

              Again totally unfounded and based on nothing but your own hate, projected through state sponsored UAF and HNH. You have your own brownshirts.

        • Barakzai

          And the stars were painted twenty years before the Jews occupied those houses? Clairvoyant those Nazis, huh!
          ‘Apt comparison?’ Adam Carter nailed you correctly earlier in this thread.

        • realfish

          You make my point.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            A totally divisive and unrelated point.

    • LittleRedRidingHood

      I like your third point. They should pay if they can

  • King Zog

    I never thought I’d ever be in the position of feeling sympathy for someone from G4s…

  • statechaos

    If they had looked closer they would have seen that the paint had started peeling long before the asylum seekers arrived. Still that doesn’t suit the liberal left ‘s narrative of increasing the perceived victim status of these peoplle. If we give them everything we have it will never be enough for the liberal left because we are all evil selfish capitalists

    • Alex

      They were being attacked in their homes because – correctly or not – it had got out that red doors were associated with asylum seekers. So I don’t know why you are saying perceived victim, still less why you are banging on about “the left”. Stop virtue-signalling.

      • Mongo

        they were being attacked? Are you sure, or just falling for sensationalist newspaper BS…

        • Mary Ann

          How do we tell, we know the media print a lot of rubbish and distort the truth to fit their own political agenda, I worked on the railway a few years ago where newspapers were left in abundance, I would enjoy taking home a copy of say the Telegraph and the Guardian and reading the same stories in both, its a bit like having a couple of children fighting, when you ask them what happened you get two versions of the same story and the truth is probably somewhere in the middle

    • Mary Ann

      Was it the left that said the doors had been deliberately painted red to provoke attack or was it the media, the fact that the red doors might have informed racists where the refugees were living was unfortunate, but it always seemed improbable that they were painted just to provoke attack as the houses would be likely to suffer damage in the process, anyone with a modicum of intelligence could work that out, and contrary to popular belief on the speccy the left are not stupid. BTW it sounds as if the doors could do with a fresh coat of paint anyway, protect them from the weather.

      • Mongo

        “Was it the left that said the doors had been deliberately painted red to provoke attack or was it the media”

        it was ..uh.. the Left media who ‘broke’ the story

      • Mr Grumpy

        Definitely, but only after the Commons Home Affairs Committee have advised on appropriate colours.

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        Ah! these racists that roam the streets in packs looking for unsuspecting asylum seekers to abuse.
        I’ve never seen any. I’ve seen plenty of packs of Muslim racists roaming the streets harassing people.
        Are they the racists you mean?

        • SunnyD

          do you live in Bury Park?

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            No. up north. But I am now than aware of the Islamist problems in Luton / Dunstable.

    • fubar_saunders

      Weaponising the migrants.

      • Johnnydub

        That’s the point. The elites are using migration to smash nationalism and nation states – because they know best.

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