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The real scandal of Rotherham is that social work doesn’t work

27 August 2014

12:32 PM

27 August 2014

12:32 PM

This is an extract from this week’s Spectator. To subscribe, click here.

In 1980, June Lait and I published Can Social Work Survive?, the first critique of British social work aimed at the general public. She was a lecturer in social policy and a former social worker; I was a psychiatrist who had regular and friendly contact with social workers. But we both felt that social work had become vague and grandiose, and we compiled quite a lot of evidence to make our case. We even reported studies showing that well-intended social work interventions could be not just unhelpful but harmful. Our work was published in The Spectator, and it touched a nerve. ‘Of course social workers don’t do harm,’ one critic fumed.

This week we have seen the horrifying report of the multiple failures of social services in Rotherham, which meant that at least 1,400 children have had to suffer terrible sexual abuses at the hands of (predominately Asian) paedophile gangs. The Rotherham report suggests, as June and I suggested 34 years ago, that social workers excel at empathy but lack the ability to carry out ‘coherently planned action’. Social work with troubled teenagers is doubtless even more challenging today than it was in the 1980s, yet the report’s conclusions reveal many of the unhelpful institutional and ideo-logical features that we identified are still with us. In one major review, we noted, 82 per cent of the statutory reports for children in foster care were overdue (in 53 per cent by more than three months). The Rotherham report by Professor Alexis Jay, a former social work inspector, also noted that ‘referral and assessment teams were responding too slowly… assessments were not completed on time’. Even when they eventually arrived, ‘Many reports failed to assess the risks to children and their families.’


It seems these were not just individual failures, occasional and regrettable exceptions in a generally efficient professional culture, but a persistent feature of a profession that emphasises doing good rather than doing it efficiently. This happens despite the fact that social workers have relatively modest case loads, especially compared with -doctors.

In Rotherham, political correctness about race seems to have paralysed police and social workers. The report says that ‘-several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist’. This seems drearily familiar — even if race was less of an issue in the social work of the 1980s.

As worrying as the excess of -political correctness in Rotherham, however, is the continuing resistance of social work to controlled, sceptical, independent studies of its effectiveness. In contrast to medicine, that resistance has long been a very prominent feature of social work in Britain (and in most other countries). Often, social workers not only resisted evaluation but blamed the messenger when the impact of social work interventions was shown to be either marginal or negative. Some claimed that social work was an art, not a science, and thus not to be judged by the normal criteria of effectiveness.

Another feature of social work that sets it apart from medicine is the way in which promotion in the profession nearly always means progressive withdrawal from doing actual social work (whatever that is) with real, messy human beings. In medicine, the most difficult and challenging patients are usually seen by the most senior and experienced doctors. If you are sufficiently ill to be in hospital, you will be treated by a very well qualified team. In contrast, if you are sufficiently disturbed to need to be in a children’s home, you will often be looked after on a daily basis by the equivalent of care assistants. Admittedly this may not matter much, because there is still little evidence that a high qualification in social work confers many advantages on the disadvantaged individuals they are meant to help.

Time and again, when a scandal such as Rotherham is revealed, we cry out, ‘How could our social services have let this happen?’ We should ask ourselves a more fundamental question: does social work actually work? The report from Rotherham suggests that social workers haven’t learned much in the last 30 years, and that the answer is still ‘not very well’.

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  • Joanna

    Asian=pakistani muslim.

  • David Booth.

    “The real scandal of Rotherham is that social work doesn’t work”

    And not just social work. The fact that South Yorkshire Police chose not to act when children were being raped crosses the line into criminality on the part of the police.
    The police officers concerned should be brought before the courts to answer for their inactions.

  • Stephen Andrews

    In 2012 the common purpose element of the story started to come out even though the matrix and your turn courses had been around a lot longer than that. Where’s the story now?

  • paulthorgan

    The reason is very simple. Social work does not attract the best and brightest. In fact it attracts the opposite. Quite simply, there are better-paid and easier jobs for talented people to spend their working lives on.

    If you have whole departments staffed by inadequates and managed by people who put personal ambition before good work you will get tragedies.

    Politicians will not interfere in this as they are under a moral blackmail that they will be held responsible should their initiatives result in tragedy, which is something easily arranged by vested interests.

    How many rapes and murders do there have to be before there is proper reform and accountability? Politicians cannot even sack a failing DCS properly without them getting a massive payoff.

  • teepee

    Social work works very well for social workers, their managers and those who train them, all of whom would be otherwise unemployed and unemployable.

  • Ben

    Your article is flawed and dishonest. “Predominantly Asian”………..blah blah blah…..


    And it isn’t just Rotherham its everywhere else too.

  • Lockstein13

    RUBBISH! Blaming the victim.

    You British are doomed to extinction…quite possibly even before the French.


    Forget the labels (diversity, political correctness, tolerance): CHOOSE TO SURVIVE.

    From the perspective of the United States, I can only say it seems clear most of you have already chosen to surrender. How sad.


    (pssst…your actions in the future will speak louder than snotty replies now)

  • Lorenzo

    No, it isn’t the fault of social workers. It’s the fault of your craven politicians who curl up and whimper when confronted by violent Islam; your PC whipped media who soil themselves in fear of being considered anti-diversity when reporting on some Muslim-perpetrated atrocity; and the citizens who meekly go about their daily lives ignoring what they see daily with their own eyes in their own neighborhoods.

    The social workers merely behave the way the vast majority do: pretend not to notice or rationalize Muslim behavior with some “all cultures are equally valid and must be accepted on their own terms” filthy claptrap.

    • Alexandrovich

      You’ve shamed me into giving you an uptick…

  • Treebrain

    “…at the hands of (predominately Asian) paedophile gangs.”

    More precisely, Muslim men of Pakistani origin.

    Why the weasel words, why not the precise details about these gang members?

  • Kennybhoy

    A good article Dr Brewer, Pity about the headline. In this specific instance the ineffectiveness of social work is way down the list of scandals…

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Looks like you guys in Rotherham have got a failed police force (service), a failed local government and a failed Social Service on your hands.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Respectable Pakistani immigrants running their businesses, getting on with their lives, must be cursing these paedo-scumbags and their worthless ancestors back to the year dot. Because the crimes committed by these Rotherham retards massively adds to their problems as immigrants.

    • Kennybhoy

      Sound comment Maister j. Just a pity you had to spoil it with the follow up. Are you drinking…?

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Presumably you mean alcoholic beverage.
        “But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
        “Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “We’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”
        “How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.
        “You must be,” said the Cat, “Or you wouldn’t have come here.”

        • George Smiley

          Anyone who writes “alcoholic beverage” instead of the simple word “drink” is obviously either a pretentious foreign snob or a foreign imposter, or both; not British, either way, and doesn’t really know what he is talking about; so, shut it!

      • George Smiley

        Schizophrenia, more like!

    • George Smiley

      “Respectable” and “Pakistani” do not belong to the same sentence, barring one former Bishop of Rochester.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    If you want a paedopaki for a neighbour, vote Labour.

    • GraveDave

      Jack – what are you on?

  • John Smith

    ‘but lack the ability to carry out ‘coherently planned action’

    Is this not the public sector to a tee
    Compounded by centrally planned systems, that either over, or under resource. They are not linked to the service requirements, other than in name

  • Freeworld

    If the writer were not so wrongly infatuated with his idealised view of the medical profession the substance of his criticism of social work and workers might sound more credible. I note not a single suggestion particularly regarding the tyranny that has stalked social work for over thirty years…anti racism

  • abgood

    Hold on a minute. The news reports I read said that while the Rotherham report laid some blame on some social workers, its most damning indictment was of senior officials in local government and the police who refused to credit reports of abuse and showed contempt for victims. I’m not sure that the filing of case reports and issue of “efficiency” of care delivery, on which the authors of this article expound, are really front and center in the Rotherham situation. I would like to know more detail about the perpetrators and their operations, and I would particularly like to know the identities of Shawn Wright’s predecessors atop law enforcement–i.e., in the years before 2010 when most of the offenses occurred. Information first, opinion second?

  • lobotomisedjournalist

    I think, for clarity, it needs to read: predominantly Pakistani Muslims.

  • jfmoris110

    -Courage is not a lack of fear, it is the ability to override that fear.
    – Islamophobia is a rational fear
    – We can’t count on fearlessness out of many people
    – Society needs to eliminate the dangerous elements as a group – this is one of the few legitimate jobs of government.

    When somebody does speak up,for instance: ” a bunch of Muslims are raping children” they should be able to count on the fullest support of every level, to reduce the hazards of speaking up. ANY GOVT. OFFICIAL OR NEWSPERSON WHO HAS MADE IT RISKY TO SPEAK UP, IS A TRAITOR, AND CANNOT BE ALLOWED ANY POSITION OF TRUST

  • katkel

    There may well be truth in what you say, but what is the alternative? The argument that social workers do more damage than good is not new, but clearly there are a significant number of children in this country in grave danger of abuse from both their own families and abusers within the wider community. To simply say that social work doesn’t work and should be scaled back on leaves these children with no protection at all. It could be argued that the police should take a more proactive stance in dealing with child abuse or neglect, but realistically such issues are never going to be top priority for a police force that is also having to deal with the rest of the criminal system, plus it’s become clear that the police in Rotherham were just as useless as the social workers. So unless you’ve got an idea for a better system of child protection then this seems a pretty pointless argument.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      …how about a child protection system that doesn’t act as a provider conduit for child s e x slaves?

      • red2black

        Or a society that doesn’t need a child protection system?

  • Fred Yang

    Don’t you lot realise you’ve *lost* the fight?

    (By “you lot” I mean conservatives, pro-capitalist, pro-liberty etc)

    You have been out-manoeuvred by the left, and Western culture as you knew it is in terminal demographic decline.

    Instead of whining or lapsing in to denial, why not accept it and enjoy the decline?

  • Ron Todd

    Social work does work. It does exactly what it is intended to do. It provides secure jobs for middle class sociology graduates from second rate polytechnics, It increases the size of the public sector increasing the socialists voter base it gives the left another platform to pontificate on how nasty white working class people are and promote left wing propoganda.

  • starfish

    The real scandal is that the population of this country has decided to export their responsibilities to other people who they can then blame for inaction/incompetence
    Kids have no food? – its the benefits people’s fault
    Kids don’t go to school? its the truancy officer’s fault
    Kids getting no education? – that’ll be the teachers
    Kids in gangs? Police
    Kids being abused? – social workers/teachers/police/NHS
    Kids being violent? Police, social workers, exposure to violent videos…
    Kids having kids – TV, society, police, social workers, peer pressure
    It is NEVER EVER the fault of the useless feckless parents
    And while we are at it – every one of those animals that abused those children in Rotherham have parents – they have failed too
    If parents took responsibility for their progeny we would not need social workers

    • Stephen Green

      You forgot to mention that whatever the subject of complaint it was all Thatcher’s fault.

    • Kennybhoy

      Spot on. But you describe the great majority of the population I am afraid…

  • Mrs Josephine Hyde-Hartley

    Let’s not forget to find out who or what social workers are effectively working for. It seems the delivery and implementation of social work these days is inextricably linked to fear or threat of court type scenes -Either way, the rights/position of too many ordinary persons can effectively get gazumped, by way of untimely, unnecessary , inappropriate executive forces which don’t seem to know who it is they’re supposed to be serving.

  • Jay_Sands

    Those in authority have clearly been trying to deny what has evidently been happening for a long time are they all going to stand up and be counted too?

    Child sexual exploitation and the response to localised grooming – Home Affairs Committee

    Formal Minutes
    Wednesday 5 June 2013

    Members present:
    Keith Vaz, in the Chair
    Nicola Blackwood
    Michael Ellis
    Lorraine Fullbrook
    Dr Julian Huppert
    Steve McCabe
    Bridget Phillipson
    Mark Reckless
    Chris Ruane
    Mr David Winnick

    Draft Report (Child sexual exploitation and the response to localised grooming), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

    Ordered, That the draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.

    Paragraphs 1 to 107 read and agreed to.

    Paragraph 108 read, as follows

    The vast majority of convicted child-sex offenders in the UK are single White men. However, with this specific model of offending, there is a widespread perception that the majority of perpetrators are of Asian, British Asian or Muslim origin. This would certainly seem to be the case from the major grooming prosecutions which have gone to court so far, but in fact both CEOP and the Office of the Children’s Commissioner have found serious inconsistencies with recording of ethnicities and gender of both victims and perpetrators across UK forces. Given the number of child sexual exploitation cases which have so far failed to make it to court, for the reasons discussed, this highly unsatisfactory situation means that it is extremely difficult to form an evidence based opinion on the true nature of what is still a largely hidden crime. Nevertheless, the perception, that grooming perpetrators are largely of Asian, British Asian or Muslim origin colours the attitudes of those working in the field, as well as the media and the wider public. Ann Cryer, the former MP for Keighley, who raised concerns about localised grooming in her constituency as long ago as 2003, faced a backlash when she described the offenders as Asian and pointed to the fact that most of them came from the Mirpur district of Kashmir (a description which she still stands by). She suggested that underlying cultural attitudes might be a factor in the offending.

    As Andrew Norfolk told us:

    The far right leapt on the story, predictably, and [Ann Cryer] was accused of demonising all Muslims. I think that it almost acted as a brake for several years on anybody seriously looking at whether there was any truth in what she was saying but, as the years passed, I noticed cases cropping up from time to time across Yorkshire and Lancashire with a very similar pattern.

    Amendment proposed, in line 9, after “perception”, to insert “which we believe to be false”.—(Mr David Winnick.)

    Question put, that the Amendment be made.

    The Committee divided.

    Ayes, 1 Noes, 4

    Mr David Winnick
    Michael Ellis
    Lorraine Fullbrook
    Steve McCabe
    Mark Reckless

    Paragraph agreed to.

  • girondas2

    “The real scandal of Rotherham is that social work doesn’t work”

    It may be a scandal, but it ain’t the real scandal.

  • CO Jones

    So social work doesn’t work.
    We already knew that. And in addition
    – police work doesn’t work.
    – local government doesn’t work.
    – national government doesn’t work.
    – and above all else, mult-culti bovine excreta doesn’t work.

  • BigAl

    About Labour’s condemnation of this scandal: Another case of jumping on the Miliband wagon me thinks…..

  • Fraser Bailey

    We’ve known for decades that social work doesn’t work.

  • sulbernick

    Will the victims not be entitled to sue the various agencies for failing in their duty – not just in Rotherham but wherever in the country these paedophile Muslim rape-gangs have been/are operating? I would have thought that adds up to a mighty sum. If 1,400 victims is a ‘conservative number’ , what must the number be for the whole country?

  • Michael H Kenyon

    Legally-minded people: would the victims have a snowball’s chance of suing the Rotherham council given the negligence and failure of duty of care this business indicates? It just crosses my mind that hitting the corporate and PC establishment in the pocket (and with us ultimately paying for the compensation via our taxes) might focus the minds of persons supposedly empowered to care for us to be less blithe with their responsibilities?

    • Reconstruct

      Someone should start a legal fighting fund to finance the lawsuits. I’d gladly contribute. Anyone with me? Those responsible must not be allowed impunity.

    • sulbernick

      Surely they can sue – the authorities fell down in their duties.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      A civil action may be appropriate, but first, a criminal action is called for.

  • GraveDave

    Never been on a blog where I agree with nearly all the posters.Even a few of those I might clash with over something else. Well said all. Those responsible for covering this up deserve nothing but contempt and outrage.

  • Harry Pond

    In 1962 the Conservatives tried to stem the flow with the Commonwealth Immigrants Act but alas it was too late. At the time leader of the Labour Party Hugh Gaitskell called it ‘cruel and brutal anti-colour legislation’ which has been their line ever since. Importing Labour voters at the expense of the poor saps who live here.

  • Michael H Kenyon

    I speed-read the report yesterday, and made a copy, assuming it would be removed soon enough. The problem wasn’t the social workers, who articulated the Islamic and Pakistani dimension to the abuse, it was the managers and ‘executive’ fudging their way through with corporatism and PC – Labour Council versions of both. There are many pages in the report documenting all the worthy groups, activities, reviews, committees, policy (etc.) and their punctilious inactivity to do anything useful. Less managerialism and “Common Purpose” corporate social engineering, and more direct challenging of persons hiding behind race could have dealt with this 15 years ago.

    • John Lea

      Totally agree. I was listening to a black Labour councillor on the radio yesterday criticising the police in her area (South London I think) for their stop and search policy against black yoofs (“they will often stop the same people 20 times”). You should have heard the mock outrage in her voice, and the accusation of ‘racial profiling’, delivered of course without any proof whatsover to back it up. She’s probably one of those New Labour idiots who are now ‘outraged’ by what has happened in Rotherham. She was on Jeremy Vine yesterday – do give it a listen if you have time – if nothing else, it’ll have your blood vessels popping with rage!

  • GraveDave

    It wasn’t just the social workers that failed. It was reported to the head of Rotherrham Council and its police commissioner three times, and three times they buried their heads in the sand. Social workers in the past have often been slow in acting on child abuse, even when it comes to poor white families abusing their children. But this is usually down to straightforward incompetence, apathy or laziness even. Then the ‘Asian’ grooming problem, and what we see now is a conspiracy of silence as such that far from urging those responsible to retire we should be dragging them in and charging them with criminal negligence and whatever else in the book we can throw at them. The cowards.

    Rotherham child abuse scandal: Labour urgespolice …

    The Guardian ‎- by Matthew Weaver ‎- 3 hours ago

    Rotherham child abuse scandal: Labour urges police commissioner to … Rotherham’s Labour council leader, Roger Stone, resignedwithin …

    Shaun Wright, South Yorkshire Police And Crime …

  • Reconstruct

    ‘The real scandal of Rotherham is that social work doesn’t work’.

    That’s the real scandal? Which idiot allowed that headline through?

    • the viceroy’s gin

      Well, you have to understand that in our post-modern era, with moral relativism the order of the day, it’s not like we can just point fingers or casually lay blame on individuals or groups or bureaucracies. Who are we to judge, afterall?

      No, we must approach this scientifically, and provide more governmental systems and programs, so that these nettlesome complainers will go away, or at least be bought or shamed off.

      It’s all about science and government. What is science, you ask? It’s a word that we use as cudgel on you nettlesome complainers.

      • Stephen Green

        Who are we to judge ? Indeed, especially as we have the E(European)C(corruption)H(human)R(rights) to do it for us.

  • edlancey

    “predominately Asian”

    A double lie based on cowardice and dishonesty.

    I stopped reading there.

    • GraveDave

      Were they Chinese? Vietnamese? Dirty knees – look at these.
      I didn’t quite notice.

  • SimonToo

    Was it not Katherine Whitehorn, years ago, who asked why, if social workers were such a good thing, the middle classes did not pay for their own?

  • roundhead

    Don’t forget that this same Rotherham council, which has turned a blind eye to this appalling, industrial-scale abuse, also took away children from their foster parents on the basis they supported UKIP. These facts will not be lost on the people of Rotherham – nor anywhere else.

  • laurence

    I truly wish that we would dispense with ‘Asian’ as a descriptor. It sullies those from, say, China or Vietnam. Those responsible for these despicable crimes are Pakistani Moslems. They might have been born in England but their mores, modes of conduct and what passess for their ‘thoughts’ originate from, and belong to, rural Pakistan.

    • zanzamander

      The article has now been changed to “ethnic”.

      “Asian” in this country has always meant people of the Indian sub-continent. It doesn’t matter to these writers that there are many “Asians” from the Indian sub-continent who have suffered untold misery at the hands of the people not too dissimilar to these “Asians” from Rotherham.

      There have been many incidents in this country (and no doubt back in their country of origins) of Sikh and Hindu girls (“Asian”) being groomed, raped and killed. Our media, police and politicians have remained silent on these as well.

      These writers fall for the same political correctness trap that they often rail against. What makes it particularly cruel is when they claim to be experts in these matters.

    • The_Missing_Think

      Is this a transferable concept, or does it only apply to the one race identified?

      • colchar

        Neither Pakistani nor Muslim is a race.

        • Joanna

          No, but to criticise either, is considered racist 🙂

      • jfmoris110

        Thinking involves the categorizing of things, of separating them by characteristics and forming connections between similarities.

        What you wrote is the opposite of thinking, it is the destruction of the ability to think, and the demand that everyone be as stupid as you.

        • The_Missing_Think

          So your answer is ‘Yes’, allow me to demonstrate with some somersaults?

          Thanks for the demo, but as I am English, I’d still like a plain English answer / ‘Yes’.

          Let’s try again shall we.

          Is this concept reserved, only for the people of the racial heritage identified, yes or no?

    • Dutchnick

      You are absolutely correct, the Hindu and Sikh community get a hard time as ‘Asians’ but they are valuable and contributing members of the UK society. I look at the Pakistani community with 50% male and 75% female unemployment plus massive percentages of ‘on the sick’ with an inter marriage rate of only around 2.4% ( compared with West Indian at around 23%) as a dramatic failure. I want an inclusive country,( I am from immigrant stock) where we can all benefit and contribute to our country but their debilitating faith suborning personal responsibility to some hope of divine sanction engenders as sense of hopelessness and resentment. I would personally not only ban Muslim faith schools but would counter, very aggressively the teaching of the faith. Not all faiths are equal, no other faith mandates my death as a non-believer nor that of any recanting Muslim. Be afraid, very afraid.

      • laurence

        Exactly. India, for instance, has a secular constitution. The primary problem here is not one of race and has nothing to do with ‘Asians’. It is, too, most emphatically not to do with the pigment of one’s skin. The problem is the backward proponents of a backward faith from a backward country utilising Western liberal guilt to bypass the laws to which the rest of us are subject. Any challenge to this lamentable state is met immediately with charges of ‘raaacism’ or ‘issslamaphobia’ as if either of these casually tossed slurs constituted an unassailable argument.

        • czar

          Go and read more about Islam from reputable sources. Can we call Buddhists murderers or Jews oppressors based on the happenings in Gaza and Myanmar.

  • elaineland

    I cannot tell you the rage, embarrassment, deep welled anger and feeling of hopelessness this gives me. I used to be so proud to be British. 1400 kids. As a conservative estimate. Fuck.

    • edlancey

      1400 as a conservative estimate in Rotherham. Multiply that by every town across the North West of England, and indeed every town where the taxis are driven by grinning halfwits who can’t speak English.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        The authorities need to prosecute and attempt to flip some of these halfwits, and follow this through to the fullest. Many need to see prison here. Many of those criminals will speak English quite well, no doubt.

        • Kennybhoy

          No chance man. The greater crime here, and the greater threat to our country and traditional way of life, is the effective collusion of the very authorities you still seem to trust. Many police officers, social workers, politicians and media types need to see a lot worse than prison here.

          Frankly I am genuinely scared. If this and other matters cannot be effectively dealt with by traditional British method and process then, when a tipping point is passed, it will likely be dealt with by something much much worse. There is a stench of Weimar about Britain and the wider West…

    • Reconstruct

      I agree. And the absolute certainty that none of the creeps, cretins, timeservers, tossers, and moral pygmies who colluded with this sustained crime (paedocide?) will even lose their jobs, let alone face trial, fills with exhausted disgust.

      How long do we have to put up with this sh*t?

      • the viceroy’s gin

        Well, judging by the response to the Mid Staffs crimes, it will be a very long time.

      • Frank

        Agree, if this was France there would be a massive demonstration. UKIP should probably call for a day of rage, ideally once Parliament is back.

    • GraveDave

      zanzamandmer’s post is no longer active?

      What does this mean.I tried to reply to it.

      • Kitty MLB

        It means that the post has disappeared into the bottommost pit of the
        Spectator infernal regions…never to be seen again.

    • GraveDave

      How do you get to say the F word on here. I have to do it by trickery. Even then it gets removed after a while.

      • elaineland


      • edlancey

        f ucked if I know

        • Ben

          Watch your f ukin manners!

      • girondas2

        I responded by asking whether the Father Jack variant would work – it didn’t
        Lets try f e c k and see how that goes.

      • colchar

        Who the fvck knows?

      • Joanna


    • jfmoris110

      This situation cannot be resolved peacefully – it isn’t PC to even talk about.
      There is going to be a great deal of killing required, win or lose.

    • Treebrain

      1400 in a single town?

      How many more victims spread throughout the UK?

  • Peter

    Very thoughtful. I recall my sister who spent her life as a social worker confessing to me that she achieved very little for the underclass in her lifetime career apart from endorsing various social security benefits.

    • Damaris Tighe

      That’s because ‘underclass’ problems are caused by the very things that social workers are told to be non-judgemental about – family breakdown, never-married mothers, welfare as a lifestyle choice. Until these state-created ills are tackled social workers, along with welfare, will continue to be the establishment’s bone thrown to the dogs.

      • HookesLaw

        And this govt is seeking to cut the welfare budget but is greeted by howls from Labour. It is too easy to dole out money. Benefots should not be a lifestyle choice and we should not be hearing stories about houses being knocked together for giant families. And thats before we get down to lies like bedroom tax.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          If it’s too easy to dole out money, then why do you socialist Camerluvvies keep doling it out like Darling, laddie?

        • GraveDave

          You call it a lie yet daren’t ask why the sudden big need for more and more bedrooms? You’re a tool.

          It’s not like it’s even saved any money.

      • Kennybhoy

        Bullseye! The relationship between a social worker and his/her clients is that of pusher and junkie. Destructive left-liberal social policy creates the demand…

    • GraveDave

      If she only ever made a difference to the one child, she achieved something. Tell her that next time.
      Is she retired?

  • alabenn

    Nice to see comments that specifically mention the real Pakistani culprits as opposed to the generic Asian descent are deleted.
    How many non Pakistani readers will this mag loses before they realise decent Asians do not want to be tarred with the same brush as Labour sponsored paedophilia, this arose as a result of Labour Party get elected at any cost ethos.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      …it might be nice if the sitting government actually said that.

      • alabenn

        I doubt if I have long enough to live to see the human jellyfish Cameron show some spine, even on Xray it would give some hope, but lets not waste time looking for it.

      • Kennybhoy

        Electorally untenable option man.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          …says you.

          And what does it matter, winning elections, if your soul is sold?

          Your statement is exactly why the LibLabCon clones are in business together.

          • Kennybhoy

            “…says you.”


            “And what does it matter, winning elections, if your soul is sold?”

            Given up on democracy have you then man…? And this from the man who still, apparently, trusts the authorities to deal with this scandal…?

            • the viceroy’s gin

              Infantile? An amusing response, coming from the drunkard who seems to infest these comments with rambling nothingness.

              No need for you to project “giving up” or “trust” on anybody else, lad, least of all me. Just make your fantastical posts and leave me out of them.

    • Damaris Tighe

      They’re on all the pages dealing with Rotherham, alabenn, & they get lots of upvotes.

    • GraveDave

      this arose as a result of Labour Party get elected at any cost ethos.

      It’s certainly looking that way.

    • jfmoris110

      Many of the Asians(muslims too) probably moved here to avoid Muslim rule.

      The liberal parties HAVE TO get elected – rich or poor, they live as parasites on the public body. They are a coalition which has no purpose other than looting the govt., no perversity is too great as long as they get votes out of enough scumbags.

  • BoiledCabbage

    Sweep this stuff under the carpet where it belongs.

  • Lidlscanner

    Pathetic. The real problem is that Isl^m doesn’t work. Anywhere.

    • CO Jones

      Right. Isl^m is it bit like communism used to be, but without the joy and laughter and universal prosperity that communism used to bring …

    • jfmoris110

      They create a war zone everywhere they are. Deliberately – It’s right there in their Korap

    • Kennybhoy

      Nope. The real problem isnt Islam or any other “them”; it is “us”…

  • Tron

    “predominately Asian” Oh dear. The PC never stops.

    • JoeDM

      The main factor in the abuse was the religion – islam.

      • Kitty MLB

        Indeed Joe. And that they see non Muslim girls as pieces of meat.
        And as other have said the word “Asian” was used. This has nothing
        to do with being Asian ( please don’t include Hindu and Sikh men). It has everything to do with the Islamic mentality.

    • elaineland

      PC. What a fabulously efficient psychological tool that has been!

      • Treebrain

        But perhaps no longer?

    • you_kid

      Oh look – it didn’t take you lot long at all to spot the racial aspect of it, even though you shouted it down only yesterday.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …what about the sockpuppet aspect of it, lad?

        • you_kid

          Surely there’s a David-Cameron’s-head-on-spike aspect to it.
          And you will now volunteer to elaborate on it.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …your sockpuppet army aspect is just as interesting, lad .

      • Colonel Mustard

        Oh look – it didn’t take you long to intervene with another red herring.

        • you_kid

          Oh look, Dan Hodges is your messiah … all of a sudden.
          You lads

          The red herring remains.

          • Colonel Mustard

            Does linking to someone’s article make them my messiah? How quaint.

            “The red herring remains.”

            Yep. You’re still here.

            • you_kid

              Well, at least Tim Stanley is not your messiah. How quaint.
              The red herring remains.

      • GraveDave

        For me it’s the PC aspect. I’m well aware we (in the white) communities )have our problems too.
        Then again so is the MSM.

    • GraveDave

      Yeah, don’t forget, waggle index fingers behind the ears three times. .

    • sulbernick

      “predominantly Asian” – Yawn. I used to think they thought the rest of us stupid. I was wrong. It’s them that are stupid.

  • beenzrgud

    We are told over and over again that lessons WILL be learned when things go badly wrong. The one thing we HAVE learned over the years is that nothing changes, and that NO lessons will be learned. There is something badly wrong with social services in the UK, and the evidence suggests that nothing less than totally stripping the whole system down and starting fresh, with different faces at the top, will actually achieve positive change. This scandal over child abuse on an ‘industrial scale’ may finally be the catalyst that is needed to actually remove the barriers to change, ie. the jumped up bureaucrats sitting pretty on cushy numbers who hold useless PC views.

    • Damaris Tighe

      I’m not holding my breath ….

      • Kennybhoy

        How long do you reckon we’ve got…?

    • The_Missing_Think

      Please please please, get real. It’s a top down country and society.

      Can you dispute this?

  • John Lea

    I agree with the thrust of the piece, that social work is costly and ineffective. There is a related question which should also be considered: to what extent are the police force now a mere extension of social services? Increasingly, they seem less interested in pursuing criminals and bringing them to justice, and more interested in making excuses for criminality and holding press conferences.

    • Damaris Tighe

      Note, most are now officially a ‘Police Service’ not a ‘Police Force’. A police spokesman interviewed about Rotherham on Radio 4 yesterday said that their ‘service’ was not all it should have been. On the same programme one of the Rotherham victims described how while her tormentor was prowling outside her home, two policemen were sitting with her inside saying they could do nothing. No doubt a ‘service’, unlike a ‘force’, doesn’t include going outside & confronting the barsteward.

      • GUBU

        You find a group of men in a derelict building with two underage girls.

        What do you do? You arrest one of the girls, of course.

        Evening all.

    • GUBU

      You forgot to mention their penchant for trawling social media for hurtful comments, and their intense almost laser like focus on the sexual proclivities of elderly light entertainers – not to mention the fact that every serving police officer in the United Kingdom may well have been interviewed over ‘Plebgate’.

      In the case of Rotherham it would appear that police officers moved from being ineffective to effectively aiding the criminals. At what point do you stop being a police officer and become an accomplice?

      • John Lea

        Yes, you’re quite right, they seem to spend a lot of time pursuing offensive (i.e. non-PC) tweets and offering 24-hour protection to the likes of Mary Beard.

    • Barakzai

      ‘ . . . and holding press conferences.’ Which are characterised by stilted, cliche-ridden plod speak from often very senior officers. I’m rarely left with the feeling that the sharpest tools in the box are on the case . . .

      • John Lea

        Strangely enough – and I don’t have any info to back this up, admittedly – but I imagine most police ‘services’ these days have quite extensive and well-paid marketing/PR departments. It would be interesting to know how much is spent on this.

  • Colonel Mustard

    It doesn’t work when it becomes a wing of the Labour party and Common Purpose. Just like the armed wing no longer works either.

    The rot set in when Blair asserted that Labour was “nothing less than the political wing of the British people as a whole”. There in that dangerous NSDAP-type declaration was the warning that party and state would become one and thrust into the private life of every one of us.

    • Count Dooku

      Basically social workers are paid to do a job that is already a part of natural human interaction. It would make no difference if all of them were sacked. Wrong uns will still be wrong, with or without them.

      • Dicky14

        Whilst this is undoubtedly a leadership issue, political, criminal (CPS and Cops) as well as social workers, care workers, education and outreach workers etc – it’s not totally restricted to Labour, it’s just that Labour are mainly the leadership in the places where the predominant influx of likely perpetrators reside.
        I used to be an intelligence analyst for the cops in a large Yorkshire community and for the last 15 years we’ve known about this – to call this a Rotherham problem is both optimistic and mendacious. My mum also used to run a homeless charity for kids and that was 30 years back and she had to barracade her charges from untoward advances from older men.
        The thing is, and it’s a huge thing – no-one in any responsibility believes these kids, no-one wants to know – even now, no-one wants to know. This scandal will run its course, a few scumbags will lose their jobs, reports will be published where lessons will be learned with the requirement to work in greater partnership but at no time will any action be taken over the cause.
        I hate to sound negative, i’m just surprised it’s taken so long for so little to happen. Social workers are hamstrung because it’s illegal for them to restrain kids and prevent them from leaving their care homes or foster homes. 1,600 kids? Yeah, multiply that by a couple of hundred and we’d be somewhere nearer the mark, maybe. I’m available for kids parties 🙂

        • Count Dooku

          If you were working for the Fuzz why didn’t you arrest the perps? We pay billions for this “social care” crap and it’s just a bunch of luvvies sitting around doing nothing.

          • Frank

            Because everybody bends over backwards not to send anyone to jail – that is why you have hard core offenders getting 100 police cautions. All this to save money (on the costs of prisons) although it probably costs as much to keep re-arresting the same people and the cost to society at large is gigantic (in every sense as the poor children in Rotherham know too well). When you add in the fact that you cannot deport foreign born criminals, you can perhaps understand why the cops feel dispirited.
            Some years ago, the Home Office did a study of all the police forces in Britain. This study showed that most forces can just about manage traffic control – any serious white collar crime is way beyond their capacity, as is any long complex investigation.
            I imagine that this level of managerial competence is true of most councils, ie they are run by inadequates and staffed by not quite top-of-the-barrel staff (ditto the NHS management).

            • jfmoris110

              Police are the only part of the govt. that benefits from reducing crime – it’d make their jobs safer and more pleasant. All the others profit by having criminals to process repeatedly, and they gain power as the people living in fear will cling to big govt.

          • Dicky14

            We’re still not done with the BBC and that’s been going on for 50 years – these things are difficult if the witnesses are unreliable.

        • colchar

          If you knew about why didn’t you speak out?

          • jfmoris110

            Contemptible dumbass

          • Dicky14

            I did many many many times. The culture of total omerta within these ‘communities’ can beat any investigation. When princlings treat their own mothers like dirt, their sisters like chattel to be extinguished for sleight – well, it’s kinda tough building a case. Modern tech will help.

            • AJH1968

              How many individual case’s of statutory rape, rape (not to mention countless other criminal charges) would you reckon there are. I shudder to think of the logistics that would be involved in bringing these individuals to justice.

      • jfmoris110

        They can’t be trusted to deal with dangerous people adequately, but they compensate by tyrannizing and disrupting innocent families – there’s money to be had doing that, and little risk,

      • Livia

        The only time I’ve been involved with social workers was when my elderly mother needed help due to a particularly aggressive form of dementia. They were a god send to us, because god knows I didn’t have the wherewithal to sort out all of her future care needs whilst watching her disintegrate almost hourly. Not sure how my mum, who served for ten years in the British Army in the late fifties and sixties, and paid taxes every week of her adult life, was a ‘wrong un’.

        • Count Dooku

          Apologies but I am not referring to your mum’s case, which is effectively at-home medical care. I appreciate that social workers help a lot when looking after the infirm and disabled.

          I’m referring to the various “protection services” that cost us billions but stand by and do nothing.

    • Kennybhoy

      Indeed. The utter brazeness of CP never ceases to amaze. “Leading beyond authority” …? When did ultra vires become a virtue rather than a threat to the rule of law?

  • Swiss Bob

    Vote Labour and this will no longer be a problem.

    Harriet Harman and her friends will sort it out, they’ll legalise it.

    • John Dalton

      This article is more drivel. Blame social workers, blame the parents, blame society, blame ra-cism, blame the girls.

      NO! Blame the people who did it! Blame those who think our young girls are “white trash” to be abused, tortured and trashed. Blame the sick ideology that dictates that the kuf-far are scum, to be destroyed or enslaved until the global caliph-ate is established.

      The real scandal is that the politicians and the media have conspired to hush this up and pour vitriol on anyone who dared to speak of it, sacrificing our kids on the altar of diversity, mult*culturalism and political correctness that has forced this country to its knees.

      • colchar

        While the people who did it are certainly to blame, there are others who deserve blame as well especially if this was known and nothing was done.

      • jfmoris110

        “The real scandal is that the politicians and the media have conspired to hush this up and pour vitriol on anyone who dared to speak of it”

        Exactly. These are traitors, and cannot be trusted with any position of power. They should be put into stocks in muslim areas, for life.

      • Stephen Green

        Brave words but watch your back. Beware the 6am Metroplod break in accompanied by the BBC helicopter and their well bribed tip off cops.

      • Kennybhoy

        I hear you man but actually your paragraphs all contradict each other….