Coffee House

Nigel Farage and South Thanet: a poorly-kept secret

8 August 2014

5:44 PM

8 August 2014

5:44 PM

That Nigel Farage was planning to stand in South Thanet was one of the worst kept secrets in politics. But Ukip turns out to be the worst secret keeper in politics, too, with confirmation of the party leader’s intentions dribbling out on a Friday afternoon at the end of a rather newsy week.

The meticulously well-sourced Jim Pickard at the FT reports local Ukip activists confirming that Farage is on their shortlist of candidates to run under the party’s banner. But the party’s spokeswoman has been stonewalling him, presumably because the Friday afternoon of an unusually newsy August week isn’t quite the right time for exciting Ukip constituency fireworks. The reason it’s a particularly bad week is that the man who makes the Nigel Farage antidote, Boris Johnson, has already confirmed he’s on his way into Parliament. Farage doesn’t want to offer himself up to the Mayor in contrast, because Johnson would actually give him a run for his money, unlike David Cameron. But two announcements about candidacies in one week from the two men draws the contrast for him. How unhelpful.

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The party has issued a brief statement saying the list for the South Thanet constituency isn’t finalised yet, and a Ukip MEP tells me that ‘when Nigel is ready to go public about where he is going to stand, then he will go public’.

Still, it can’t do any harm to re-read Ian Warren’s excellent Coffee House profile of the constituency, just in case…

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  • foxoles

    ‘July average votes for council by-elections:

    CON 28.3% LAB 27.1% UKIP 24.2% LDEM 9.7% GRN 4%’

    h/t David Sprason

  • terence patrick hewett

    It’s just a rumour: Nigel is playing the media again. Expect it to run and run. It’s called “exposure”

  • global city

    Isabel!!!

    I an’t believe that you have fallen for and are parroting that silly mantra that Boris is an antidote for the Tories from the attack of the UKIPs….

    The two subjects are now barely related.

  • Denis_Cooper

    “.. the man who makes the Nigel Farage antidote, Boris Johnson … ”

    Delusional.

  • the viceroy’s gin

    So, it’s a “poorly kept secret”, but you have no proof or source for this “secret”?

    Is that it, then?

    Why don’t you do something productive, and tell us who told you to emit this blather, lass?

  • saffrin

    Dover, Boston

  • Smithersjones2013

    Oh by the way another thing that poor Izzy forgot to mention was that the announcement of the short list was planned in advance and reported on prior to the date. So it was not leaked and it was no secret

    Kent Online on the issue this last Wednesday

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/ukip-to-announce-thanet-south-21473/

    Now doesn’t Izzy look stupid?

  • HookesLaw

    When the born again congregation get into their ‘Hallelujah Saint Nigel’ mood it has to be said it is utterly hilarious. Sad, tragic, pathetic, but still utterly hilarious.

    • Smithersjones2013

      So bitter, so twisted, so tortured. Poor Hooky…..

    • the viceroy’s gin

      Well, lad, in 9.0 months time, we’ll see how much hilarity Call Me Dave’s head mounted on a spike elicits from you socialists .

    • Jacques Strap

      Yes, you are indeed sad, tragic, pathetic.

  • Conway

    Boris Johnson, has already confirmed he’s on his way into Parliament.” So no voters will be involved in this apotheosis, then?

  • global city

    Let’s hope that the Tories decide to put in one of their europhile ‘stars’ to fight him, maybe put Boris the EU sleeper up against him?

  • ArchiePonsonby

    Go Nige!

  • Smithersjones2013

    Well UKIP have dismissed the FT piece and by extension this piece of sneary condescending premature ejaculation.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28710524

    In any case do we know whether Farage might be in discussion with other constituencies? There are plenty (many in Kent) which would provide him with a sound base from which to challenge for the seat. Isn’t it common practice for aspiring MP’s to make approaches to a number of constituencies even if they would be welcomed with open arms in all of them as Farage would? It makes no sense that Farage would put his eggs in one basket when he has no need to. Surely Boris won’t just be speaking to one constituency?

    Just because Farage’s name is pencilled in for South Thanet doesn’t mean it isn’t pencilled in for half a dozen others.

    One can only hope that poor Izzy isn’t as premature in the bedroom as she is on here because she certainly won’t be much fun if she is…

    As for Warren’s analysis, it was garbage. It had a significant lack of local knowledge and it ignored almost all of the polling, election and political data about Thanet South.

    All that said I have been predicting that Farage would go for South Thanet (it is the obvious choice after all) since directly after the County Council elections even before Sandys announced her standing down which probably means he won’t stand there. Does anyone know whether Roger Gale in Thanet North has decided to stand again?

    PS What is intriguing is that Nigel has an event down in Thanet on the 4th October (directly after the Tory conference). Watch this space……..

    PPS Mind you all that said, ‘leaking’ the odd tidbit is a very good way of keeping oneself in the news even amongst all the hurly burly of government trials and tribulations and the further adventures of Boris the Bumbling……

    • HookesLaw

      ‘ejaculation’? That really proves you have no self awareness.

      • Smithersjones2013

        Even for you that is the most surreal and opaque insult ( if it is supposed to be an insult isn’t it?), I can recall.

        I do wonder if the explanation lies in that your grasp of the English language is somewhat lacking?

        PS Apart from the usual frothing I note you have nothing of substance to say (also as usual).

        • Wessex Man

          You just had to go and do it! we will now be badgered with countless nonasense just to prove how witty titty he is!

  • Lady Magdalene

    Nothing to say about Cameron’s latest deceitful U-turn: his promise to make the House of Lords representative of votes cast in the previous General Election?
    Not one UKIP peer has been appointed to the Lords in the latest round of appointments to the Lords which has basically become the Taxpayer Funded Retirement Home for Quisling Party Donors and Placemen.

  • Streben80

    Every UKIP activist in the country just reached for the map to see where it is, I have no doubt they will mobilise like never before for our Nige.

    • Lady Magdalene

      I certainly will be ….. wherever he decides to stand.

    • Smithersjones2013

      Given UKIP support is strongest in Kent I suspect many of them already know where it is……..

      • Wessex Man

        I gave you an uptick but I reckon we’ll pick up quite a few seats here in the south west!

    • Wessex Man

      Now there’s a jealous little Tory, who probably can’t organise a consitutency party anymore!

      • Streben80

        Where?

  • Kitty MLB

    Well I for one shall look forward to when the debonair Nigel Farage is the official
    opposition to the Conservatives. The working classes need a party and Labour are
    not worthy to represent anyone. But in the mean time his face in the commons
    will make a change. But he needs to win that seat. Or a purple cushion it shall be.
    A slight issue though, would that not make Nigel part of the ‘ established Westminster
    elite’ that he fights against. And wouldn’t he find the mundane life as an MP somewhat
    dull. Not as exiting as battling the EU.

    • Tim Reed

      For UKIP to be a permanent force in UK politics, Westminster must be the final destination. Once the EU is (hopefully) out of the way, they can concentrate on further establishing themselves as a new party of the right in UK politics. It’s a long term goal.

      The thought of Farage transferring his withering attacks on the EU stooges in the EU parliament into the House of Commons is a wonderful prospect.

      • Kitty MLB

        Yes well he would certainly liven up the place at the
        very least.

      • global city

        The EU is simply a tool to help build a proper party structure with proper political expertise. They are not their to enhance the institutions, just as the SNP or PC are not at Westminster to make it work better for Scotland/Wales.

        • Wessex Man

          but won’y you be independent after September?

          • Wessex Man

            and we English free at last!

          • global city

            I know that Liverpool is a pretty distinct entity from England, but we’re not quite ready to declare independence just yet! 🙂

    • Lady Magdalene

      The debonair Nigel Farage is more likely to become the official opposition to Labour.
      The Conservative Party is dying. I doubt if even BoJo can resuscitate it.

      • Kitty MLB

        In your dreams darling.A kipper friend from the North
        Says UKIP are thriving in those areas where immigration is an issue.Lovely Nigel wants a seat but its not upto him in reality the electorate decides
        and words are easy.

        Another thing dear, you are being somewhat arrogant, I this evening have been polite to UKIP
        and because of your attitude I am now critical.You
        are meant to be getting voters on your side and not
        getting their back up.

        • global city

          Ah, but Kitty, sometimes you are so partisan it is exasperating….as nice as you are!

          • Kitty MLB

            Little me? You’re clearly mixing me up with
            someone else. I’d even vote for the Monster
            Raving Loony party but I ‘m not too sure about
            the hats.

            • global city

              OK. I apologise if I am….but!

              Are you not a dyed in the wool Tory?

        • Lady Magdalene

          Dear Kttty, you may be polite but you are still a supporter of the Quisling Cons, so politeness is pointless. I am out to destroy your party (the one I used to support). Whether you like it or not, the LibLabCONsensus must be destroyed one party at a time.
          The LibDems are on the floor. Sadly (for you) the CONs are the next weakest, so they will be our next target. Not only because they are vulnerable but because they are chiefly responsible for the position this country finds itself in. That leaves Labour (which has the most tribal support).
          If we succeed is yet to be seen …. but regardless, I will NEVER vote Conservative again as long as I live. That’s how much I hate your Party of Quislings.

          • ArchiePonsonby

            Ladies, ladies, please!

            • Kitty MLB

              Sorry dear Archie.

          • Kitty MLB

            Of course I still support my party the party of the
            great Margaret Thatcher. Do you suppose the
            currant leader or any leader would drive me out?
            they come and go but the principles remain.

            So your going to destroy the entire political class, all parties, who are there because they are
            elected..and we will only have UKIP. Do you know how extreme that sounds.

            • Lady Magdalene

              Change is having to be forced on the cartel who have been running the UK and who are all responsible for the destruction of our Sovereignty and Democracy.
              The 3 old Parties need to be destroyed, so that replacements can emerge and our Democracy be restored. That isn’t extreme.

  • james allen

    Not sure Boris’ appeal stretches beyond the burghars of greater London. This is a local fight, and Farage has a pretty damn good chance of coming in first.

    • Holly

      UKIP should be focusing and targeting ALL seats.
      They could do rather well if they took this approach, instead of ‘pockets’ hither & thither.(I love that saying)

      • james allen

        They have clearly concluded otherwise. I’m not sure they’re wrong… no prizes for second place.

  • @PhilKean1

    .
    This is great news for those British voters who’re sick of being tricked and lied to by the 3 consensus parties.

    I can only wish Nigel and UKIP all the best. After all, the future of the British peoples’ sacred democracy now rest solely on their shoulders.

    Will Nigel go down in history as one of Britain’s greats – following Cromwell, Churchill and Thatcher?
    .

    • dado_trunking

      Gandhi, lad. You forgot to mention Gandhi.

      • Chris Morriss

        Gandhi was just a dirty little dwarf.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …what’s this, lad? You and your army of sockpuppets were singing joyfully of Fat Al, just shortly ago. Has the socialist nutter tide gone out suddenly?

    • Kitty MLB

      Cromwell would be an excellent idea.. especially near the houses of parliament, Phil. Could we not add Wellington.. he was great, regardless
      and the EU could be someone’s Waterloo.

      • @PhilKean1

        Anything for you, Kitty.

        But we both rejoice at today’s news 🙂
        .

        • Kitty MLB

          Nice to see you smile Phil 😉

          • ArchiePonsonby

            I agree! Some of us remember that Phil was badly duped by that incompetent, spoonfaced clown in Number Ten! Chin up, PK! Won’t be long now!

            • Kitty MLB

              The only other person who calls Cameron spoonface is the charming Colonel.That term
              has me in stitches..whenever I pickup a spoon
              I burst out laughing…causes issues when dining
              out as you can imagine 🙂

              • telemachus

                Interesting that when you type Nigel Farage into Google, it tells you that people also searched for Nick Clegg, Marine Le Pen (in that order)
                *
                Now just what similarities led to the selection of those two?

                • Kitty MLB

                  You insult the charasmatic Nigel Farage when
                  you compare him to the whey faced Clegg.

                • telemachus

                  Not me Ladybird
                  Mr Google
                  *
                  PS
                  I agree with the description charismatic
                  The next Parliament will be interesting with a bevy of charismatic stars
                  Ed Balls
                  Boris
                  Nigel
                  Life is getting exciting

                • Kitty MLB

                  Oh come on wasp, Ed Balls is not charasmatic
                  and I’d say that even if he were a Conservative.
                  So you like the Golden Retrever do you?

                • Holly

                  I do not know of any similarities between these three, but I would not be surprised if two of them are ignored, and the ‘searcher’ goes on to read about Farage.

                • Colonel Mustard

                  Interesting, when you type “Labour party fascists” into Google you get this:-

                  Are the Labour party fascists?, Fascism and Labour Government, British Union of Fascists, Oswald Moseley and NEW LABOUR NEW FASCISM NEW RACISM (in that order).

                  The first one has some interesting answers (I especially enjoyed the last one):-

                  “there are some striking similarities to the fascists and the way that Labour operate as an organisation.”

                  “Labour are hypocrites, nothing more nothing less.”

                  “Democracy is just an illusion in New labours Britain.”

                  “No, worse, a bunch of Marxists working as thought police.”

                  “There is actually an element of British style fascism in New Labour”

                  “Yes the labour party is fascist”

                  “Yes, absolutely they are intolerant of ALL who think different to them.”

                  “no doubt the labour party is fascist”

                  “No,they are disgusting Communist totalitarian dictators who feed off Britain like pigs at a trough.”

                • Wessex Man

                  ha ha ha, I bet you’ve wiped the idiotic grin off the rat known as tele babe’s face now!

                • Kitty MLB

                  Dear Colonel, it will be difficult to keep an eye on
                  the wasp telemachus from now on he’s become
                  private…he can hide and spring on people now.

                • Colonel Mustard

                  He frantically concealed his activity once his previous “intemperate” comment about ISIS and “the Caliph” was revealed.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  Interesting that when you type “telemachus is a fascist gauleiter” it brings up 49,800 results.

                  I guess the internet must be cognizant of that connection.

                • The Masked Marvel

                  Except it’s people like you doing the searching, thus creating the link.

              • ArchiePonsonby

                Hashtag sympathy, Kitty, as I believe the young fry would have it these days!

                • Kitty MLB

                  Indeed.

      • Wessex Man

        Kitty,

        200th anniversary next year of the Great man’s whopping of the French upstart, the spectator must organise a knees up there!

        • Kitty MLB

          Yes indeed they must, the great man must be remembered.

    • Archibald Heatherington

      Cromwell was a puritanical despot who was less democratic than the monarchy he tried to overthrow. He doesn’t deserve to be in the same sentence as Churchill and Thatcher.

      • @PhilKean1

        Before the EU, the democracy we once had sprang from what he created.
        .

        • Archibald Heatherington

          Magna Carta and Simon Montfort, actually. They didn’t ban maypoles and Christmas puddings.

          • @PhilKean1

            Nigel Farage and Article 50 🙂
            .

      • Kitty MLB

        Oh come on, Archie. You cannot prefer that powdered,
        perfumed pompenjoy of a king a total milksop.

    • Ooh!MePurse!

      No

    • Gwangi

      I agree. Good luck to him! He speaks as he finds, and thus stands in stark contract to the grotty blob of pompous Westminster politicos, whose sole role in life is to parrot the platitudes of their political masters.

      And oh yes, he will get abused by all the other parties – with racist slurs too, not doubt being called ‘male, stale and pale; by racist whiteman-hating diversity queens. An irony then that he will also be called racist for stating what most British people believe – that there has been way too much immigration to the UK (and there still is) which is not enriching our lives at all but impoverishing us (I am not counting millionaires party leaders with huge houses in London whose prices go up in parallel with over-immigration here) – and that is not even to state the fact of huge swathes of our capital city now resemble alien, foreign lands where native Brits are a hated and oppressed minority.

      Good luck, Nigel!

  • CharlietheChump

    You’re dabbling with the “Economist we told you so” type of journalism.

  • Tim

    And the point of this article is what again?

    • Smithersjones2013

      I believe the employees of the Spectator are having a competition to see which of them can write the most inane piece of procrastination that includes UKIP in the subject matter

      Sadly this one falls well below the standard of the specious drivel previously produced by little Sebbie Payne, the tediously dull Massie or indeed that superficial and spurious piece of demographic wonkery by Ian Warren that poor Izzy thinks is so ‘excellent’

      • Chingford Man

        Sebbie is weaving his magic on the Washington Post, and doing the newsroom’s Starbucks run every morning.

  • dado_trunking

    Tee hee, no one cares anymore. Bombing the living daylight out of Kurdistan has focused the minds of the bigoted far right.

    • Smithersjones2013

      Well the headline blog of the foremost Tory magazine seems to care, as does the Telegraph, Guardian, FT, Independent, Sky News, BBC and so forth

      • dado_trunking

        I agree with Isabel – if BoJo ran against Nige (of course he won’t), the city kid would trim the Ukip hedgerow right back to its roots. Now, we wouldn’t want that would we.
        What we all want is a good show in Westminster come 2015. Those quarterly Nige clips from Brussels just no longer cut it.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          …how’s the goat, lad?

        • Wessex Man

          I thought you were a Scots Nat nut so whats it to do with you?

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