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How far do the Lib Dems want to go over Gaza?

12 August 2014

6:14 PM

12 August 2014

6:14 PM

Well, well, well. What’s all this then? Uncle Vince has announced the suspension of 12 export licenses to Israel. Here’s what he said:

We welcome the current ceasefire in Gaza and hope that it will lead to a peaceful resolution. However the UK Government has not been able to clarify if the export licence criteria are being met. In light of that uncertainty we have taken the decision to suspend these existing export licences in the event of a resumption of significant hostilities.

‘No new licences of military equipment have been issued for use by the Israeli Defence Force during the review period and as a precautionary measure this approach will continue until hostilities cease.

Immediately after this garbled announcement was made Lib Dem spinners bombarded the Lobby’s inboxes, and pleaded to be quoted. Apparently:

This is a coalition and this is as far as we have been able to reach in collective agreement with the Conservatives.

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What rot. The continued suspension of export licenses, on the wholly unsatisfactory grounds of ‘uncertainty’ even after a review, strikes Mr S as a serious business. The government’s policy rejects Israel’s right to defend itself if (or should that be when?) it is next attacked by Hamas.

So how much further do the Liberal Democrats want to go? Open condemnation of Israel? A permanent boycott, maybe? Arm Hamas?

Perhaps one of the party’s many unofficial Middle East spokesmen will clarify the matter for us when they make another of their colourful interventions about ‘the Jews’, because the spun line is specious nonsense.

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  • dgb

    Anybody have a list of what Israel bans from going into Gaza? I heard they now allow wheelchairs … which was once on the no-no list. I guess nowadays wheelchairs just aren’t security threats anymore. How times have changed our perceptions!

  • Michael Sager

    Hamas fires a rocket at Israel and Britain stops arms to Israel because fighting resumed? I can’t get my head around the moral or practical logic of this?

  • Terence Hale

    Hi,
    Your Photo; The Liberal Democrats the wrong side of the bar with Mr. Clegg drinking a popular Irish dry stout that originated in the brewery of Arthur Guinness (1725–1803) and Dr. Cabel. Drinking a “pale ale” which first appeared around 1703. Time and place is in politics important.

    • Airey Belvoir

      Eh?

  • mightymark

    Here from the Foreign Press Association is an account of how Britain and much of the rest of the world has been fooled by Hamas:

    “The FPA protests in the strongest terms the blatant, incessant, forceful and unorthodox methods employed by the Hamas authorities and their representatives against visiting international journalists in Gaza over the past month. The international media are not advocacy organisations and cannot be prevented from reporting by means of threats or pressure, thereby denying their readers and viewers an objective picture from the ground. In several cases, foreign reporters working in Gaza have been harassed, threatened or questioned over stories or information they have reported through their news media or by means of social media. We are also aware that Hamas is trying to put in place a ‘vetting’ procedure that would, in effect, allow for the blacklisting of specific journalists. Such a procedure is vehemently opposed by the FPA.”

    Sadly it looks like most UK journalists were either happy to be duped or just did as they were told by Hamas.

    • Tony_E

      Most British journos didn’t seem to need much corralling by Hamas. Eager participants were easily found there.

  • Tony_E

    This is just a vote garnering operation from the Lib Dems. Because of the hysterical news coverage, the propaganda exercise on social media and the abject failure of organs like the BBC to report properly the restrictions that they work under in Gaza, then they can see that many people have been taken in by the idea that Israel is the ‘aggressor’.

    They simply want to be seen to be on the ‘Popular’ side of the debate.

    Hamas is winning in it’s real aim – to de-legitimise the defence of the state of Israel. the Lib Dems are just useful idiots in their cause

    • The original Mr. X

      “the Lib Dems are just useful idiots in their cause”
      Well, at least someone finds them useful.

  • ButcombeMan

    One, if one were wise, would need to know exactly what the licenses were for, before deciding that the refusal affects Israels “right to defend itself”

    • GraveDave

      Yeah poor Israel. Hamas has definitely won the war now.

  • Penny

    There are several points that could be made about this, but one that I think should be a worry is the speed at which this decision has been made.

    The dust hasn’t even settled on this conflict; there have been no investigations and therefore not a jot of reliable, independent evidence to be had. Call me an old traditionalist, but before I make a decision that would affect others (and this would affect Brits more than Israelis) I tend to wait until I’ve got all the necessary information. I would suggest this sensible approach is the very least that could be expected of a government. This isn’t the first time we’ve seen this rush-to-judgement-without-a-single-fact-being-known behaviour. It doesn’t inspire confidence.

    And is there going to be any similar caution issued to Hamas? Such as “The annual British aid money to Gaza will be suspended until such time as measures to prevent it being spent on rockets and tunnels are in place”.

    No – I thought not.

    • Kaine

      How exactly would you prevent money being spent on tunnels? Ban shovels? Besides I thought “measures” were in place. Isn’t that the whole point of the Israeli blockade?

      • Penny

        The missiles and rockets must be coming in from the tunnels that run into Egypt.

        The logicistics of preventing aid money being used for weaponry is not something I could be expected to know – but that hardly means it isn’t or can’t be the remit of the various organisations currently in Gaza. This should be a concern – aid money is not intended for Hamas to buy rockets and materials to build tunnels. It should be directed to the welfare of the people.

        • Kaine

          No, the rockets are scaffolding pipes with explosives in them. The Egyptian dictatorship have no interest in allowing supplies into Gaza.

          The only way to prevent the rockets entirely would be to prevent any building materials.

          I’m happy you agree the blockade is ineffective though. One more reason to lift it then.

          • Penny

            Those rockets aren’t scaffolding pipes with explosives in them.. But even if they were – they were enough to prevent a number of airlines taking the risk of coming into Ben Gurion.

            Re: your “I;m happy you agree…” – I’m not interested in playing “gotcha” games.

            It is quite possible that the Egyptian tunnels were viable when Morsi was President – less so now.

            Unless Hamas agrees to give up its aims – as stated in its charter – it would be suicidal to lift the blockade.

            • Kaine

              Yes, they really are:

              “The aim of the Qassam rocket design appears to be ease and speed of
              manufacture, using common tools and components. To this end, the rockets
              are propelled by a solid mixture of sugar and potassium nitrate, a widely available fertilizer. The warhead is filled with smuggled or scavenged TNT and urea nitrate, another common fertilizer. This is close to Ammonite.[13]
              The rocket consists of a steel cylinder, containing a rectangular
              block of the propellant. A steel plate which forms and supports the
              nozzles is then spot-welded to the base of the cylinder. The warhead consists of a simple metal shell surrounding the explosives, and is triggered by a fuse constructed using a simple firearm cartridge, a spring and a nail.”

              One fell near the airport. This spooked some Western airlines, more likely down to the complete uninsurability of the exercise than anything else.

              If you’re going to recommend major policy decisions, it behooves you to read up on the subject.

              • Penny

                And the Khalibar rockets? And those the Israeli has managed to intercept?

  • statechaos

    So in the event of ‘significant hostilities’ on the part of Hamas we will make sure there is a ‘disproportionate’ response from Israel? Looks like the LibDems are all as nasty as David Ward.

  • avi15

    Lib Dems: flapjack-eating hypocrites all.

  • HookesLaw

    Another example of how loony left the LDs are, not moderate centrist left but loony.
    Cable is happy to harm British industry by withdrawing licences for exporters.

    • David Ganz

      The manufacture and sale of arms is a despicable trade, despite the propensity of HMG to reward these merchants of death with honours.

  • s_o_b

    So if I have this right the current position of the British government towards Israel, an ally and the only democracy in the region is “if Hamas, an acknowledged terrorist group, attacks you we will do our best to stop you from defending yourselves. If they don’t, then it’ll be business as usual.”

    • avi15

      Yes, that’s right. It was a previous British government that turned away Jews who were subsequently murdered in concentration camps and that allowed the Arabs to attempt to strangle the Jewish state at birth. Oh, and other HMG’s reneged on the promise of a homeland for the Jews. So, it’s just more of the same. Britain is certainly very muddled when it comes to the Jews, to put it mildly.

      • Kaine

        The land was never Balfour’s to give.

        And Israel is not in any way synonymous with Jewish identity, despite the cynical attempts of Likud-Beytenyu to pretend otherwise.

        • lookout

          Balfour knew his bible, in the last days, now, the Jews get their land back and are constantly attacked, psalm 83 and the Gog/magog wars take place, soon, they will include the use of nuclear weapons, this is implied, it’s all going to a plan. Our choice is which end of the bayonet will we be on.

          • Kaine

            And then Frodo throws the One Ring into the fires of Mount Doom right?

            • lookout

              You will be able to watch it on the telly, or you can read about it now, the bible is one third prophecy. Chuck Missler on YouTube gives a good explanation of the Gog/Magog wars, happy reading

              • Kaine

                You do realise it’s not true, right?

                • lookout

                  Check the prophecies, they are all 100per cent accurate, your call.

                • Kaine

                  I don’t believe in magic.

                • lookout

                  It’s not, it’s just true, go on, check Missler, especially The return of the nephalim, on YouTube, oh, and Genesis 6, you know , aliens. Tom Horn, The Secret Vatican agenda.

                • Kaine

                  Are there inter-dimensional space lizards? I’m a sucker for the space lizards.

                • lookout

                  Trans dimensional, it is quite simple to understand once you start to uncover what is being concealed, I notice from another thread that you quote bible references, the door is still ajar, good luck

        • avi15

          Wrong on both counts. Britain was the lawful ruling power of the territory at the time and was entitled to dispose of it in any reasonable way consistent with its mandate. In this case, the Jews who had been inhabiting the land since time immemorial, had ancient rights over it; and this was a fact recognised by HMG. Moreover, the Arabs, who had a competing claim, did not originate from the area but were nevertheless apportioned all of present-day Jordan and such territory west of the river as they would agree to share or partition with the Jews. The Arabs, being chauvinistic towards the Jews, were not prepared to do either, and engaged in repeated pogroms towards the Jews, culminating in a series of wars, in which they got their backsides handed to them. This brings us to today, as nothing has changed.
          As to your second point, anywhere from 80-95% of Jews identify with Israel, depending on whichy poll you look at; and if you knew anything about Jewish culture, you would probably think these figures rather on the low side.

          • Kaine

            Lawful according to whom? The victors of Versaille?

            According to Judaism’s own tradition the Jewish nation was not native to the area. They displaced the Canaanites after they left Egypt. Further, while many Jewish communities especially the Sephardis have been in the Middle-East for centuries, many current Israelis are first or second generation immigrants who have no more ancestral attachment to the place than any other human being in Eurasia.

            And you have not a damn clue what I know about Jewish culture. You can be Jewish and not Israeli, you can be Israeli and not Jewish, therefore by definition the two are not the same.

            • lookout

              The canaannites were a nephalim influenced tribe, see L.A. Marzulli on YouTube, you will not believe what he has discovered

              • Kaine

                No, I won’t.

                • lookout

                  Your loss.

            • avi15

              No need to be rude. Yes, that’s right. The victors of Versailles determined who could rule the territory. You may not like it but there it is and you will find it was entirely lawful.
              Second, all Jews, unless they are recent converts, have proven genetic links to Israel. That even includes the descendants of the Khazars. Moreover, it has also been demonstrated that in fact, the Jews inter-married with the Caananites and that this was how the latter disappeared. Of course, since you’re such an expert on the subject, you will also be perfectly aware of the centrality of Israel in Judaism and I am sure you will even know what it means in Hebrew.

    • mightymark

      The new mantra seems to be “Israel has a right to defend itself – except when it actually does”.

      • Damaris Tighe

        That’s because they’re jooooos.

  • jack

    They will be renamed The Lib-Dhimmi’s after next year.

  • JimHHalpert

    So no arms to Israel but it’s OK to export who knows how many Jihadis to ISIS?

    What can you expect when the adults are on holiday? But it speaks poorly of their judgement that they’ve left the loony uncle to do the babysitting. Yet another strike against Dave.

  • lookout

    If the lib dems manage to convince the whole world to stop selling arms to Israel, the Israelis will only have the nukes left, so the next middle east war with plutonium might be down to Nick and Vince, sweet.

    • Michael Leschziner

      You are obviously totally ignorant about the weapon-production capabilities of Israel. Israel has plenty that it produces itself, including tanks, cannons, rockets, guns, etc. etc. In fact, if you dig a bit you will find that the Iron Dome is a substantial Israeli upgrade of the US Patriot. This is due to Israel’s unsurpassed technological and IT prowess – in stark contrast to its Arab neighbours who rely on the West to supply even tooth-picks. They produce nothing of any technological value or any goods that involve even a modicum of intellectual input. They buy everything from the West, including gold-plated Ferraris and Porsches. Without these, they would ride on donkeys and camels.

      • lookout

        It was a joke, the light’s on, but nobody’s in, lighten up.

      • Kaine

        Amazing what you can do with sixty years of American subsidies and technology sharing.

        • Michael Leschziner

          Indeed, much more than sixty years of nursing victimhood grievances, and wasting one’s resources and money on building terror tunnels and amassing 10000 rockets in the mids of a sea of ignorance and self-inflicted poverty (intellectual and material).

          • Kaine

            Well there were simple solutions. Israel could have acknowledge to right of return for Palestinians, or it could have negotiated with the secular, socialist Fatah.

            Instead it enabled an Islamist movement specifically to undermine and weaken Fatah, in the hopes that the Palestinians would eventually just go away.

            For all the supposed brilliance of the Israeli elite, they seem to have been a bit daft in that regard.

            • Jim Craig

              No simple solution available. Whose right to return. The original 30-50,000 Arabs who left Israel of their own free will or the 5 million now claiming the right of return or compensation?. Are the eight hundred thousands Jews forced or physically expelled from Arab countries and their descendants to be afforded the same rights?.
              Israel has tried at various times to negotiate a settlement with its neighbours. The Arab world does not want a settlement only the destruction of Israel as written into the militant manifestos of Fatah, PLO, Hezbollah, Hamas Isis and many more.. The only ones to have made concessions, in the past, in order to reach any kind of a settlement has been the Israeli’s. but it is never enough.

              • Kaine

                You do realise that the “Arab World” is not a monolithic block, and that Hezbollah are currently defending Baghdad from ISIS? That HAMAS and Fatah have on several occasions descended into outright warfare?

                Saying “Why don’t the Palestinians become Jordanians/Egyptians/Syrians?” is like saying why didn’t the Irish just become French/German/Italian when their country was occupied.

                And not even the Israelis claim the Nakba was “30-50,000”. If those were the total numbers why wouldn’t the Israelis have just allowed them back after 1948? Why does the deputy speaker of the Knesset speak about cleansing Gaza as they did in Jaffa, if Jaffa was empty? What about those in the West Bank and Gaza (where Israel rules but doesn’t give citizenship)? Do they just have to leave?

                The last Israeli Prime Minister to seriously consider peace was Yitzak Rabin. He was killed by Zionist terrorists. Because for some in Israeli society anything less than all the land to the Jordan river is “never enough”.

                • Jim Craig

                  The Arab league can certainly be considered as a monolithic block in its continued opposition to the existence of the state of Israel. the fact that there has been internecine warfare between militant factions is irrelevant as all still want the destruction of the state of Israel.
                  There never has been a Palestinian state at any time in history so yes the Arabs there are Egyptian,Jordanian or Syrian. The Irish have existed as a recognisable entity for as long as the Jews or Arabs. QUOTE

                  “There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. ‘Palestine’ is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it”.
                  – Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 –

                  My apologies Re Nabak i had meant to type 300-500,000 the remaining 200,00 displaced will always be a subject of dispute regarding their status

                  Have the Israeli’s been less than fair in the treatment of the Arab. Undoudtedly. Have the Arabs been less than fair or tolerant of the Jews? Undoudtedly. Have both been guilty of atrocities? Undoudtedly. Has the Arab world used the so called Palestinians as a weapon to destroy the state of Israel? Undoudtedly. All I am saying is there are no easy solutions but on balance the Arabs have more to answer than the Jew.
                  Menachem Began and Shimon Prese were also instrumental in getting and seeking peace.

                  The original two nation state of 1922 signed by 52 members of the league of nations gave all of current Israel and Jordan for a Jewish homeland. The fact they were sold out by the British to placate the Arab League is a disgrace. The fact that the Arabs control 99.9% of the land mass and are denying The State of Israel one tenth of one percent of land to which they are legally and historically entitled is a disgrace

                • Jim Craig

                  The Arab league can certainly be considered as a monolithic block in its continued opposition to the existence of the state of Israel. The fact that there has been internecine warfare between militant factions is irrelevant as all still want the destruction of the state of Israel.
                  There never has been a Palestinian state at any time in history so yes the Arabs there are Egyptian,Jordanian or Syrian. The Irish have existed as a recognisable entity for as long as the Jews or Arabs. QUOTE

                  “There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. ‘Palestine’ is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it”.
                  – Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 –

                  My apologies Re Nabak i had meant to type 300-500,000 the remaining 200,00 displaced will always be a subject of dispute regarding their status

                  Have the Israeli’s been less than fair in the treatment of the Arab. Undoudtedly. Have the Arabs been less than fair or tolerant of the Jews? Undoudtedly. Have both been guilty of atrocities? Undoudtedly. Has the Arab world used the so called Palestinians as a weapon to destroy the state of Israel? Undoudtedly. All I am saying is there are no easy solutions but on balance the Arabs have more to answer than the Jew.
                  Menachem Began and Shimon Prese were also instrumental in getting and seeking peace.

                  The original two nation state of 1922 signed by 52 members of the league of nations gave all of current Israel and Jordan for a Jewish homeland. The fact they were sold out by the British to placate the Arab League is a disgrace. The fact that the Arabs control 99.9% of the land mass and are denying The State of Israel one tenth of one percent of land to which they are legally and historically entitled is a disgrace

  • MrsDBliss

    This appears to be another case of them not understanding Islam – either deliberately or through fear. Islam sees itself as one; Tawhid. Therefore although they are different countries and nations they are one. How then can we be proposing to go to war again in Iraq against Isis, and then be against Israel defending itself against Hamas? Hamas has stated that it’s mission is to wipe Israel out! The only difference between them and Isis is that Israel is powerful and they can defend themselves were the victims of Isis are not. Do they truly believe that if Israel was to not defend themselves, took down the wall and the comb that there’d be peace???

    • Damaris Tighe

      Israel is the sacrificial lamb for intervening in Iraq against ISIS. The government (or the LibDems) can say: look, we’re not against Islam, we’re even handed. It’s a trade-off.

      • MrsDBliss

        I never thought of it that way, bot you’ve made a very good point.

      • HookesLaw

        No, its an example of LD handwringing.

        • Damaris Tighe

          That too. They’re not mutually exclusive.

      • Andy

        Anyone who is not against Islam after seeing Muslim barbarism at work in Iraq has no sense of Humanity.

        • Damaris Tighe

          Cameron after a young soldier was almost beheaded on a London street: “Islam is a religion of peace”.

          Bush after 9/11: “Islam is a religion of peace”.

  • cambridgeelephant

    How about the Lib Dums actually go to Gaza ? All of ’em…….

    • cambridgeelephant

      Incidentally – Doesn’t that photo’ invite a “No !!! I look much more like Nigel Farage than you ever do’ ” – caption ??

  • andy_gill

    The Lib Dems have a rich vein of anti-semitic form with Jenny Tonge and David Ward. So no surprise Uncle Vince wants to punish Israel for defending itself.

    • Damaris Tighe

      The LibDems are the really nasty party.

  • Archibald Heatherington

    I imagine that if there were a lib dum government they would not just arm Hamas but intervene on their side. Typical “progressives”.

    • Barakzai

      ‘ . . .but intervene on their side.’

      Thundering Paddy might want action, but the pusillanimous Limps as a whole would conference any related motion to death in impassioned, cod propriety and still not agree.

  • Michael Leschziner

    Hilarious: Galloway punishing Israelis by barring them from “touring” Bradford. Vince cancelling export licences. The effect on Israel of both will just about be the same; a fat big ZERO. Israel relies on UK arms like the emperor of China relies on Toys-R-Us. Pure vacuous posturing.

    • HookesLaw

      But it also points a big sign to the UK saying that it is unreliable as a source of supply.

  • clivel

    It seems as if they are intent on rewarding terrorism by offering Hamas an incentive to break yet another cease fire, thus ensuring that Britain is complicit in any further suffering in Gaza that is sure to follow another.

  • Mark B

    This I think is quite cynical of the Lib Dems. They are using the crisis to bolster their position with a certain type of voter. If the Conservatives overrule this, the Lib Dems and Labour will cry foul.

    Party politics before lives. I ask you, how low can a so called human stoop ?

    • FlippityGibbit

      Nick “the Liar” Clegg is current Champion. He stoops so low he can limbo dance under a snake’s belly!

      • fundamentallyflawed

        But he’s so sorry over all the other stuff they didn’t deliver if he is vocal about this can he keep his job? Please!!!!!!

    • s_o_b

      Dachshunds probably

    • telemachus

      So how much further do the Liberal Democrats want to go? Open condemnation of Israel? A permanent boycott, maybe? Arm Hamas?

      • Colonel Mustard

        “Arm Hamas?” “It is about time”

        Typical. And you try to deny that you support and apologise for terrorism.

        • MikeF

          Well I am glad the woman has seen the light but when in the last 20 years has the Labour Party a “party of principle”?

        • telemachus

          Bearman, a former Director of Friends of Israel writing in the Jewish Chronicle
          Your post was clearly truncated

          • girondas2

            “Bearman, a former Director of Friends of Israel writing in the Jewish Chronicle”

            A connection to be proud of.
            You’re showing your true colours aren’t you, little jack-boot johnny?

            • telemachus

              No just contextualising the Mustard post

              • girondas2

                To what purpose – except to try and discredit Bearman?

      • Tony_E

        Advance Tehran’s Threat!

        FFS- what are smoking?

      • Andy

        More Fascist bullshit. Miliband is a cretin. He has nothing to say about the Genocide we are witnessing in Northern Iraq. But of course he wouldn’t because the murderers are Muslims and he wants the Muslim vote.

      • Damaris Tighe

        I’m not going to reply because you’re a troll whose posts are simply designed to wind people up. Unfortunately you often succeed & a lot of time & energy is wasted.

      • girondas2

        “That would concentrate the Mind while the leaders of this rogue state await inevitable referral to The Hague”

        The people who ought to be in the dock in the Hague are Blair and his supporters

      • girondas2

        Poor old telemachus,he gets more disgusting by the day.

        There was a time telemachus, when the labour party would have stood shoulder to shoulder with a civilised democratic state like Israel. Now if foams at the mouth and call for israel’s destruction at the hands of bigoted, misogynistic, racist, psychopaths.

      • timmay

        Don’t feed the troll people

  • FlippityGibbit

    Lib Dems (and I speak as an EX Life long supporter) are so desperate Nick “The Liar” Clegg will grab and support ANYTHING that may imply people actually give a jot about what he says or thinks. It is obvious to all and sundry that those ordering the rockets to be fired and those firing them from residential areas are to blame because they knew what the consequences would be. All they are doing is to buy public sympathy for their cause NOT their people using the blood of children and innocents as currency. Clegg, Warsi and all the other “bleeding hearts” are actually encouraging them to do more of the same and are naive and gullible to the detriment of OUR country which has absolutely NOTHING to do with this conflict.

    • Andy

      There is much Joy in Heaven that you have Repented.

    • Colonel Mustard

      How can you be an “ex life long supporter” unless you are dead?

      • Andy

        He is writing from the ‘other side’.

        • mightymark

          Makes a change from being ON the other side!

      • FlippityGibbit

        Because I’ve voted for them all my life and now do not. In simple terms, I’m an ex – supporter who has until now never voted for anyone else.

  • The Masked Marvel

    But the “aid” money will still flow to Hamas, in order to continue to buy weapons which will be stacked in schools and on top of hospitals, teach children to hate Jews, and build tunnels instead of bomb shelters. Well done, Vince. Expect him to be lionised by the BBC.

    • CiporaJuliannaKohn

      Despite the agitations of the Jew haters, Israel will survive and will prosper.
      Israel will never allow itself to be annihilated as we see is happening to Christians and the Yazidis in Iraq and Syria.
      Obama and his supporters in Europe, such as Nick Clegg, have presided over the slaughter of civilians in the Muslim world. They have presided over the rise of Jew hatred in the Western world without any condemnation.
      They must understand that Jews today have a state and an army and will not go to the slaughter quietly. They will not be stuck on mountain tops waiting to die slowly while cynical, cold hearted men pursue their political careers.
      Israel manufactures many of its weapons and will find replacements for any weapon parts that Clegg wants to boycott.

  • http://owsblog.blogspot.com Span Ows

    They might – one day – go as far as culling the overt anti semites from their ranks.

    • Andy

      They can’t do that dear: there would be no one left if they did.

  • dado_trunking

    Uncle Vince’s sole purpose in life is to drive the bigoted far right mad.
    (smirk)

    • http://owsblog.blogspot.com Span Ows

      He drives many people mad, probably mostly not of the bigoted far right (whoever you think they are).

      • dado_trunking

        Ah, you are of course correct – he also upset the dear Caroline Lucas for calling a fund he set up a ‘Green’ Investment Bank (GIB). So his sole purpose in life must be to irritate everyone.

      • MikeF

        The ‘bigoted far right’ are anyone the left dislikes enough to smear through their habitual tactic of rutualistic name-calling as a substitute for the arguments they are incapable of formulating.

    • cambridgeelephant

      Uncle Vince’s sole purpose in life is to get his hands on the Lib Dum Leadership, which he should do right after they’ve received a Euro Election style mauling in 2015.
      (smirk)

      There you are ! Fixed it for you.

      • Alexsandr

        leader of what? They will fit all the limp dump MP’s in a taxi after the GE

    • girondas2

      You do indeed wear the smirk of madness Dado

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