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The Ukip shuffle: Can the party become more than a one man band?

23 July 2014

7:51 PM

23 July 2014

7:51 PM

Nigel Farage has started his long awaited reshuffle of the Ukip top team tonight. Patrick O’Flynn, the former Daily Express journalist, becomes the party’s economics spokesman. Given O’Flynn’s writings, we can be pretty sure that he’ll make taking the middle class out of the 40p tax band one of Ukip’s defining policies. Steven Woolfe becomes migration spokesman. His tweets tonight indicate that his main emphasis will be how EU membership skews Britain’s immigration policy in favour of low skilled EU citizens and against high skilled people from the rest of the world.

There’s no word yet on the other front bench roles. There’ll be particular interest in what role Diane James, the personification of the new more professional Ukip, gets.

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But the big question about this reshuffle is whether it enables Ukip to be more than the Nigel Farage party. To date, Ukip’s advance has been built around Farage and his distinct appeal. But if Farage is going to properly contest a seat at the general election, he is going to need others to take up some of the burden. Equally, he is going to have to be prepared to allow others to become big figures in the Ukip firmament.

This reshuffle, though, marks another step in Ukip’s journey towards becoming a proper political party rather than a protest group. If Ukip can add a pro-middle class tax policy to its position on immigration, no one will be able to dismiss it as a single issue group anymore.

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  • ArchiePonsonby

    Meanwhile, what ARE we to make of this? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2705013/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Rebekahs-hubby-set-snub-Dave-stand-Ukip.html Evidently Dave isn’t the flavour of the month in Chipping Norton!

  • pobinr

    Renegotiate with zealots who see the very idea of nationstate democracy as a threat to their federalist ideology!
    That would be like a satelite country of the old Soviet Union trying to negotiate its own sovereignty with Kruschov or Bresnev!
    Here’s the political slime we’d be trying to renegotiate with & here’s the only man with the guts to stand up to them > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJHETdxwv8Y

  • pobinr

    The EU is a mixture of empire builders, career polticians & ideological federalist zealots who are as barking mad as flat earthers!
    Only EUrophiliacs get the top jobs.
    The unelected commisioners put the legislation before the MEP’s who can vote on it, but they cannot put any of their own forward.
    Over 40 years they’ve worn away at the fabric of our nation.
    They don’t believe in separate nations with separate parliaments!
    IN fact they see nationstate democracy as a threat to their ideology.
    We are now overuled & overun.
    UKIP are the answer > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJHETdxwv8Y

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  • pobinr

    Romania & Poland are each the same area as UK.
    Population of Romania is a only a 3rd that of the UK
    Population of Poland just over half that of the UK.
    Hungary has half population density of the UK.
    These countries must now be full of old people & empty houses & lacking people of working age. Making them even poorer so less likely to recover in the post Soviert era. It becomes a viscious circle. They get poorer so even more leave and on and on!
    Meantime we have a housing shortage & severe road congestion.
    I was chatting to a Hungarian girl recently who served me in Pizzaexpress. A charming girl. I asked her what has the EU done for her and her country?
    She replied – ‘It’s given her the opportunity to leave’
    I said would she ever go back to Hungary. She replied ‘No. the wages are 3rd of here but prices are the same as here’
    Their demographic screwed & ours!
    Judging from the East Europrean accents I hear I think there’s more like 10m East Europeans here. I DO NOT believe government figures of 3 or 4m!
    The EU, the Euro & open borders are a disaster for all concerned apart from slumlords & min wage employers

    How the EU is dismanlting democracy in Europe > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJHETdxwv8Y
    VOTE UKIP on principle

    • http://europa-antiqua-arca.blogspot.com/ clavdivs

      This is a good point that is not raised often. Denuding Eastern Europe of its young productive workers isn’t good for them. Unlimited immigration creates perverse incentives that makes the wealthy EU countries richer and the poorer ones poorer.

  • foxoles

    ‘Could the party become more than a one-man band?’, you ask.

    This is a logical fallacy known as ‘begging the question’ – where you assume an unproven conclusion to be true in the initial premise of your argument.

    • saffrin

      You wot?

  • MrsDBliss

    “he is going to have to be prepared to allow others to become big figures in the Ukip firmament.”
    With your use of the word allow you’re suggesting that Farage wants all the attention. That really doesn’t chime with a man who has previously stepped away from party leadership and came back after the failure of the subsequent leader. It also doesn’t chime with his statements that in a referendum he wouldn’t lead the ‘out’ team.

  • Raddiy

    Perhaps you might inform us when the Conservative party stopped being the David Cameron party, or Labour the Ed Milliband party, or the Libdems the Nick Clegg party. Parties are dominated by their leaders, even useless ones like these three numpties.

    This whole deceit of UKIP being a one man party is a fabrication of the media, it bears no relationship to the reality on the ground, which you would find out if you bothered to leave your bubble world.

    UKIP is not a one man party, it has never been a one man party, and will never be a one man party. The recent comment by NIgel about why we should accept refugees from Syria, was retracted and modified within 24 hours, after pressure from the grass roots.

    The fact is Nigel Farage is the best political player in this country today by a country mile, and we are very privileged to have him as our leader, In comparison our opponents hide between pragmatic group think knowing the price of everything, and the value of nothing.

    • right_writes

      Excellent sir, you put in a few words, what I failed to do in yards of them.

  • right_writes

    The idea that a political party should be filled with obvious talent whilst it is out of office is so crass.

    In the run up to 1997, it was clear that Blair was the rising star, but who knew any of the “spokespersons”? After 18 years out of office, they were the same as UKIP.

    Similarly, in the days leading up to the CONservative win of 2010, apart from the amazing brilliance of David Cameron, we are still waiting for him to appoint some people that are better than him.

    • madasafish

      In the run up to 1997, it was clear that Blair was the rising star, but who knew any of the “spokespersons”?

      My recollection is: Robin Cook, Jack Straw, John Prescott , and a certain Mr Blunkett were all well known nationallly. As for Gordon Brown, he WAS well known.

      You must either be very young or have a poor memory.

      • right_writes

        Perhaps John Prescott, but the others were as well known as Diane James as far as I am concerned… None of them had any government experience and those that were known were so, for their other “talents”.

        e.g. Straw the NUS President, Blunkett the “deputy” leader of Sheffield council, Robin Cook all round Guardian fave lefty and journo, and Brown the baleful assistant.

        My memory is quite good for an old geezer, but of course, I could be a little bit confused, since history tells us that those that you mention are all now…

        NOTORIOUS.

        • HookesLaw

          ‘as far as you are concerned’ shows that your concern does not nstrech very far.

    • fubarroso

      He recently sacked those that were better than him. The rest and the replacements are non-entities like Cameron.

  • cargill55

    UKIP at 4 million voters , 400 local councillors , 40000 members and 24 MEP’s plus a targeted seat strategy for 2015 and policy portfolios being handed to a number of people at the top bodes well for 2015 and shows clearly it isn’t a one man band.

  • Radford_NG

    Lord Ashcroft’s latest poll has UKIP 8points ahead of Labour in Thurrock (which I see is S.E.Essex;on the Thames,and inc.Tilbury).

    UKIP37%/Lab29%/Con25%/LD-forget it.

    UKIP also ahead in South Thanet and second in Yarmouth.

    Ashcroft makes the point that UKIP support ranges across the country from 9% to 37% so national figures for support are less significant.

  • pobinr

    Could UKIP possibly do any worse than FibDemLabCon?

    Open borders, lax immigration policy in general & EU membership are OK if you like;

    * Mass unemployment,austerity& democracy lost to ECB loan sharks in Med countries

    * More & more control of our country given away to the emerging EU dictatorship

    * Low population density E.European countries being further depopulated

    * Cheap imported labour that drives wages down & take jobs from locals

    * Classes full of kids that need special lessons in speaking basic English

    * Being told it’s just Daily Mail fiction when we see it with our own eyes

    * 28,000 or is it 5,000 Romanians I don’t care, held for crimes

    * Higher house prices & rents due to increased demand

    * More crowded surgeries & longer NHS queues

    * More dependance on food & energy imports

    * Worst housing shortage since WWII

    * More & more houses on greenbelt

    * More & more road congestion

    * Child grooming gangs
    * People traffickers

    * More red tape

    * More pollution

    * More crowds

    * More queues* FGM

    Why would anyone in their right mind want these things?

    The Swiss who live in the only remaining democracy in Europe recently voted to take back control of their borders.
    So unlike us they will now be able to refuse entry to;
    Rapists
    Terrorists
    Murderers
    FGM freaks
    Paedophiles
    Drug dealers
    ATM criminals
    Fake students
    Child traffickers
    People traffickers
    Child grooming gangs
    People that don’t speak their language
    People that want to adopt an alien culture
    People that want or have to wear burkhas
    People with no money & people with no skill or job.

    How the EU is destroying democracy in Europe >
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJHETdxwv8Y

    Vote UKIP

    • dado_trunking

      “Higher house prices & rents due to increased demand”

      .
      Bless.

      • Utterances

        Many young people can’t afford to buy a house, when previous generations could, due to unchecked immigration. Why do you appear to want make light of this?

        • dado_trunking

          There is no housing shortage – we have an (intergenerational) affordability crisis. The issue is home made and not linked to immigration as other nations with far higher levels of immigration but working economies and pension systems demonstrate.

          • politikalme

            awww, another socialist who doesn’t understand the principle of supply & demand – bless…

            • Wessex Man

              probably lives on some island to the west of Mainland Scotland.

            • dado_trunking

              Once you get to England (London is not England), have a look around. There is no shortage of supply – but there is help, for those who do not believe me or those abroad: check the levels of massive oversupply on a rightmove or equivalent website.
              You could move to ANYWHERE you wanted. Why don’t you?

              See. You have ignored your own personal *affordability* issue.

          • ArchiePonsonby

            Been to Canada lately, idiot?

            • Jacques Strap

              There was nowhere to park.

              • ArchiePonsonby

                Then you didn’t know where to look!

            • dado_trunking

              You are enjoying your can-do-nada top banker from Canada, I take it. Not my problem.

              • ArchiePonsonby

                I happen to be English born and bred!

                • dado_trunking

                  So what? Are you proud that that can-do-nada banker from Canada tells you what to do because Engerland no longer has any credible bankers in credit? Hilarious! What next, a German footy manager for the national side?

                • ArchiePonsonby

                  I am considerably more furious that ghastly unelected creeps from sundry European countries rule our lives with impunity and charge us £55,000,000 a day for their undoubted pleasure at doing so! I do not choose to follow football so they can have little green men managing them for all I care!

                • dado_trunking

                  ‘they’ ‘charge’ no such thing – perhaps now is the right time to brush up on some basic accounting, not in Hollywood please.

                • ArchiePonsonby

                  WRONG! They charge. We pay! English is not your native tongue, obviously!

                • dado_trunking

                  WRONG AGAIN! ‘They’ do not charge, and if ‘they’ charged’ then ‘they’ charge no such thing as £55m per day. We pay and then monies return.
                  Learn some basic accounting, and English!

          • Jacques Strap

            Actually, it is a combination of all the factors.

          • pobinr

            5,000,000 EU migrants all wanting a roof over their heads. Are you tellimg me that’s not a major part of the problem?!
            Many on min wage so they bang out sproggs to get affordable housing.
            So our kids can’t get on the property ladder!
            The social housing queue in Southampton is now 8 years long. Used to be 18 months.
            Every other name on the maternity unit cots is East European. Meantime
            Criminally irresponsible of FibDemLabCon
            VOTE UKIP on principle.

            • dado_trunking

              You are broke – that’s why the incomers come, with cash (top end) and to pay for your cheap needs and pensions (bottom end). Lap it up and vote on principle. Be poor – your call.

          • Holly

            So the Chinese lad who was buying a London flat for 2 million quid, or those abroad buying off plans, then leaving them empty so they do not lose value are not instigating the ‘affordability’ crisis?
            Leeds has a similar problem, so it’s not just a London thing.

            • dado_trunking

              Very good, yes – ‘your’ city (I would not know if true) is rubbished with floor-to-ceiling glass appartements. I deliberately use the French spelling to make it sound more socialist.

          • Utterances

            So what are you denying, the high immigration, the increased demand or the increased prices?

            Irrefutably there is high immigration. Whether in terms of population size, density and geographical area.

            There is increased demand due to immigration. More people = more demand. Surely we can agree on this?

            Increased demand has led to upward pressure on prices. That tends to happen, when more people want the same thing, doesn’t it?

            Which of these points do you not accept?

  • perdix

    Will the new policies be more than “drivel” ? (c) Nigel.

  • pobinr

    Liberal Democrats – The party of liberty, democracy and equality who are anti having the liberty to decide on Europe via a referendum and anti democracy in being EUrophiles. Pro equality yet they want to treat EU citizens preferentially! But that’s the opposite of liberty and democracy & equality isn’t it? LibDems the Party for people that don’t believe in liberty, democracy or equality

    Labour – Anti referendum, pro EU and pro immigration.
    Result = Mass immigration of cheap labour driving down wages, taking jobs, taking homes, making more traffic congestion and making slumlords & low wage payers richer. But that’s the opposite of Socialism isn’t it?
    Labour the party for seriously deluded people!

    Tories – The party of small government most of whom are EUrophiles meaning gigantic bloated centralised EU government that’s ballooning out of control. But that’s the opposite of Conservatism isn’t it?
    Conservatives in reality the party for People that need to vote UKIP if they are conservative

    Vote FibDemLabCon & get the opposite of what you want!

    The common sense solution > http://www.ukip.org/issues

  • dado_trunking

    Do they need to?
    List why.

  • lakelander

    If Farage pulls it off with something that resembles a credible “front bench” team the Conservatives really will have a situation they should worry about. In that event, UKIP are more likely to be taken seriously over the longer term and in to next year. The electoral threat in marginal constituencies will become acute and then Cameron would be mad to not seek some kind of electoral pact.

    It is to be hoped that the present prime minister is giving this eventuality due consideration now.

    • alabenn

      UKIP is a bigger danger to Labour, they have probably damaged the Tories as much as they will outside Eastern England, in the North West and the Midlands where Labour has a lot of marginal and semi marginal seats, UKIP will if they take off, create carnage among their main base.

      • lakelander

        Last time I checked UKIP took votes from Conservatives and Labour in the ratio of 3:1.

        • alabenn

          Yes, but they are now getting lots of Labour votes, so if as you say Farage pulls it off, he will damage them more proportionately, 3 to 1 is now out of date.
          Ashcrofts latest indicates that UKIP is eroding the swing from Tory to Labour, that alone will stop a Labour majority if the Lib Dems do not totally collapse.
          Everything is changing and there is still the possibility that UKIP could collapse, but even that will not help Labour as it is doubtful if previous Labour voters will turn out for them.

      • HookesLaw

        So a ‘pro middle class’ UKIP is a danger to Labour? Really? Lets get serious – a UKIP which sullies itself with policy will only start internal arguments and dissention. All the things it seeks to take advantage off in other proper political parties. A UKIP which becomes a ‘proper political party’ will of course not be UKIP.

        • alabenn

          Most people who want to improve their standing also tend to be more loyal to their countries customs, this is regardless of class, something that proper party led by Cameron seem to have forgotten

          • HookesLaw

            thats a new code – ‘loyal to customs’

        • Jacques Strap

          *tumbleweed*

        • Wessex Man

          You lost the argument a long time ago Hooky babe and all we get from you now are inane dribbles!

          • HookesLaw

            In your dreams. Answer the question – will a pro middle class UKIP appeal to labour voters?
            Will a left leaning UKIP trying to attract Labour voters appeal to traditional Tory Voters?

            Your’s and UKIP’s argument consists of appealing to the anti foreigner racist voters.

    • HookesLaw

      Credible? Ex Daily Express journalist as the Chancellor of the Exchequer? There is nothing credible about UKIP. UKIP are nothing more than the BNP in a camel hair coat.

      • Jacky Treehorn

        Yeah you wish. Anyway no one expects them to be the biggest party so why are the liblabcons so scared? It’s cos they know as time goes by people will realise where the future is heading and thanks to the left it’s sectarian.

      • Chingford Man

        Wasn’t Gideon’s only job outside politics in journalism, Hooky Babe?

        • ArchiePonsonby

          Didn’t he have a sideline in hooker babes?

          • HookesLaw

            No

        • HookesLaw

          Not at the Daily Express.

        • Raddiy

          He was a Saturday boy wallpaper salesman in the family business, the only real job he has ever had, and Daddy had to give him that.

      • Gazcon

        Ex Daily Express journalist with a first class economics degree. As opposed to Osborne, who I believe studied (but did not learn from) history.

        • Makroon

          Ha-ha, Huhne and Salmond are professional economists.

          • HookesLaw

            So is Vince Cable (a professional economist)

      • Grumpy

        Alistair Darling was a solicitor and later an advocate who was a member of the Marxist International: he was chancellor of the exchequer.
        Gordon Brown had a very short career as a lecturer in politics but no real job: he was chancellor of the exchequer.
        Jim Callaghan: he was an income tax inspector: he was chancellor of the exchequer.
        Denis Healey was a professional politician; he was chancellor of the exchequer.
        A three-year dead goldfish could have done a better job that any of that lot.

        • HookesLaw

          And all of them midiots that they ae have more brains than a Daily Express journalist.
          And of course all of them were failures so not a good example.

      • Jacques Strap

        …… *tumbleweed*

      • lakelander

        Understood. But as spokespeople they might look more credible, thus retaining their support pre 2015 and trashing the Conservatives.

    • Wessex Man

      There will be no pact as long as Cameron is Tory Leader.

      • Alexsandr

        if ukip have a pact with the tories, UKIPs support will fade away. People wont vote UKIP to help the tories.

      • lakelander

        Bet there would be if he saw a chance of staying PM.

  • Stef Reynolds

    Please give Diane James an economy portfolio, her grasp of numbers would be the making of her party…

  • Streben80

    The party already is more than a one-man band, the problem is the media dont like to feature anyone but Nigel. The reason Nigel has been on QT so many times is because they wouldnt take anyone else.
    Steven is a very decent guy, sharp as a tack and has a sense of humour to boot – a very wise choice, as is Paddy. It is very nice to see these quality people being put forward, many in UKIP have been calling for these appointments to be made for some time.

  • telemachus

    The new Ukip MEP told HuffPost UK that the party’s message will centre on an “ethical migration policy”, adding: “It is important for me that we don’t stigmatise or give the impression that we are attacking individual nationalities.”
    *
    No they will attack them all
    *
    Ethical
    Ethical migration policy
    *
    Was he the guy who dragged Billboards to immigrant areas to scare the living daylights out of them?

    • Jacques Strap

      *tumbleweed*

    • Jacky Treehorn

      I love it when you can taste the fear from the left.

      • Freddie

        That doesn’t come across as creepy at all.

        • Jacky Treehorn

          Good it wasn’t meant to.

          • Freddie

            Yeah lots of people enjoy smelling the fear of others. They’re normally kept on medication in secure facilities but hey ho…

            • Jacky Treehorn

              Good comeback.

    • Chingford Man

      It’s obviously already scared you.

    • Alexsandr

      shut up tellytubby. You have made these allegations here before and they were rebutted. Just saying them again and again does not make them true. Just makes you look like a blathering idiot

    • http://europa-antiqua-arca.blogspot.com/ clavdivs

      Putting billboards in immigrant areas isn’t attacking individual nationalities.

  • anyfool

    Starting to get a full blown party hierarchy might be a bit late, but it is a very welcome development, it will make a big difference in 2015, it will also lead to a bunch of seats that will make a massive difference.
    They just need to keep it plain and simple and the shy is the limit.

    • alabenn

      Their first policy should be cancelling postal ballots for all but the really infirm and their second no one to go to jail for not having a TV licence.

      • Jacques Strap

        Just make the TV license an option. Donate to the BBC if you really want to…..

        • Aberrant_Apostrophe

          It already is an option, unless you are a pensioner. The downside is you have to be technologically savvy and content with not watching live broadcast TV.

          • Wessex Man

            What would cause you to go to the problem, I haven’t watched anything on the BEEB in weeks except for Question Time to keep my eye on my party’s opponents.

            • channel.fog

              Oh Wessex Man, we’d love to know the name of ‘my’ party. What do you do, shout at your opponents like some sort of bedsit looney?

          • channel.fog

            Technically savvy to switch on a laptop and go to BBC TV? Really?

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/on-now

            • Alexsandr

              careful. its legal to watch on catch up, but watching programs being broadcast now on the internet you need a licence.

      • ArchiePonsonby

        Spot-on!

    • fathomwest

      But there have always been others on the top table. But, just like the Conservative Party, Labour and the Lib Dems it is the leader that media want to hear from. That is why we are fed daily, if not hourly, twitters from Cameron, Clegg and Milliband. Goodness me Cameron has a view on everything under the sun, but without the in-depth knowledge to convince people.
      Farage speaks for all in UKIP and the people have and are warming to him.
      I look forward to later this year when they will announce their manifesto. I expect the three Westminster parties to pour scorn over this document then adopt most, if not all of the proposals.
      The latest humiliation of our once Great Country over the Air Malaysia disaster in Ukraine gives positive proof how totally useless the EU is. God help us if Russia invades Ukraine and Poland. Who, hand on heart, believes that the EU will do anything and who, hand on heart, can expect Obama to come to the aid of the EU?
      Never forget that Cameron will never leave the EU.

  • http://batman-news.com The Commentator

    I wonder if the BBC will decide that the Green party are the fourth major party, when the general election campaign begins in 2015. They certainly did in the London Mayoral elections giving the Greens a major boost and shutting out UKIP from TV debates. The sad thing is the rest of us are forced to fund this partisan and deeply biased TV company. If only some brave minister would just put it up for sale, like the Post Office.

    • global city

      I have long thought that, even if only for tactial reasons, UKIP should say they will call for a debate about the future of the BBC, which would utterly spike the Beebs anti UKIP guns, as any of their usual waffle could then be highlighted as anti UKIP bias……and so on……

      • davidraynes

        “Calling for a debate” is classic political nonsense,

        UKIP would be very unwise to say anything other than simple clear messages. Clear ideas that appeal to a mass of voters across the social spectrum.. They have to distinguish themselves from all the rest of the parties, lost in the long grass of political jargon.

        Much better to say that UKIP believes the ” BBC Tax” has passed its usefulness and the organization has been enriching too many, at the expense of a compulsory tax.

        Something like:

        “This may not make us popular at the BBC, but we say technology is making the BBC Tax redundant and it is far too high.. UKIP will support selling off much of what the BBC does and returning the BBC to a much smaller, core public service offering”

        • telemachus

          Simple clear messages
          *
          It is what they do
          *
          Out of Europe &
          Immigrants home

          • girondas2

            Iraq. telemachus.
            Illegal wars, based on lies.

            That’s what you do.

            You have blood on your hands, telemachus. Farage does not have blood on his.

            • telemachus

              Are you sure
              If someone stirs up racial tensions does he promote alienation?
              Do alienated people provide fodder for those bent on radicalisation?
              Do the radicalised provide fodder for those pursuing jihad in Iraq?

              • callingallcomets

                Sound the Troll horn!!!!!!!!!

              • Alexsandr

                ignore the troll. For he spouteth b0110cks.

              • girondas2

                Wriggle all you like, the blood is on your hands telemachus.
                And yep I’m sure.

    • Tom Chance

      Good point. Is a very close race for fourth between the Greens and the Lib Dems…

      • you_kid

        Why vote green? No one needs Greens to build windmills.
        Ukip and the Cons are doing a brilliant job.

    • Freddie

      The reason the Greens were treated as the fourth major party in London is because they are the fourth main party in London.

      • Wessex Man

        Then London is definately a foreign country!

        • JoeDM

          Londonistan !!!

    • itdoesntaddup

      I thought they have decided that the Greens should get regular PPBs favourable news items on a daily basis.

    • Jacques Strap

      I hope so – great chance of splitting the left.

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