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The traitor Melita Norwood should have been prosecuted

7 July 2014

4:53 PM

7 July 2014

4:53 PM

Today brings a fresh reminder of a national disgrace, the failure to prosecute Melita Norwood for treason. Newly released files from the Mitrokhin archive make clear how vital a KGB source Norwood was; Moscow regarded her as an even more valuable asset than Kim Philby.

Norwood’s treason was exposed in 1999 when she was still alive. But she was, absurdly, not prosecuted. This was a failure of national nerve. She might have been an old woman by the time her spying was revealed, but she was an agent of one of the most unpleasant authoritarian regimes in history and one which this country was involved in a decades-long struggle against. She should, as a matter of principle and honour, have been subject to the full force of the law.

The failure to prosecute the KGB’s longest serving UK agent sent out an awful message about this country and the loyalty it expects from its citizens.

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  • SickyLeaks

    The only evidence against her was handwritten copies of Soviet Files, and Mitrokin was the only one who had seen the originals. She wasn’t prosecuted because, unless she chose to confess, there was no evidence against her.

  • sasboy

    Tony Blair seems a far more appropriate person to be prosecuted, preferably for war crimes.

  • global city

    Either that woman in the pic has just reversed onto a cactus she forgot about… or she’s your usual hate filled, treacherous bi*ch as outlined in the article!

  • GraveDave

    Pass me those clippers would you dear…

  • Roger Hudson

    Further proof that SIS and SS/MI5 never had any assassination capability, unfortunately.

  • Sean Lamb

    The Mitrokhin archive is full of rubbish. All KGB defectors do is cease working for one organization of lies and start lying for another organization.

    I mean some of the stuff in it might be true, but you can never tell and much of it is obviously just pushing the agendas of the security state.

  • GraveDave

    Doesn’t seem to prevent us prosecuting 90 year old Naz1 males and similar aged
    K K K members does it.
    So come on ladies – man up and take the time to fit the crime.

    (Believe it or not this was the only way I could get this simple little post past the moderators.)

  • Jambo25

    Those who think that Norwood was let off due to some lefty conspiracy are being a bit delusional. Its probably the opposite. Norwood wasn’t fully ‘outed’ until she was 87. It would have been very difficult for the authorities to drag an 87 year old through the courts given their previous treatment of the Cambridge 5 or 6. Burgess and Maclean were very strongly suspected of spying before their flight but they were seen as decent Cambridge chaps and left alone. Philby had also been strongly suspected since the end of WW2 and SIS had been warned about him by the Americans. No action taken and a probable warning given to help him escape. Blunt and Cairncross were proven spies and no action was take3n against either.
    This was the establishment protecting its chums. Does that r5ing a bell for anyone?

    • Blindsideflanker

      They dragged an 85 year old Rolf Harris through the courts.

      • Jambo25

        I’m not entirely a fan of that either. I think the court case had to go ahead but I think the near 6 year sentence is questionable.

  • Tweety58

    She should have met Mr.Ellis.

  • JimHHalpert

    Considering that Agent BOOT, a paid creature of the KGB, once led the Labour Party, it’s hardly surprising they didn’t kick up a fuss about that traitorous old whore.

  • Andy

    The evil bitch should have been tried for Treason and, if she had been found guilty, hanged.

  • HookesLaw

    Norwood (the 5th… 6th woman?) was exposed in 1992 when she was 80. Irrespective of anything else there were presumably sound reason for not tipping anybody off that at that stage we knew about her. She was outed by a defector in 1999 when she was 87. Ignoring the rights or wrongs of charging other people for their misdemeanours there was no public interest or benefit in charging her at this stage.
    Norwood it seemed gave nuclear secrets in the early years of the war. She worked for British Non-Ferrous Metals Research Association. The reality is that its questionable how important her information was. Fuchs was probably more important. She had her vetting clearance revoked in 1951 and was not in any position to ‘discover’ anything from some years before.
    High horses are much in evidence – she was indeed a spy, she was discovered (or proof was discovered) very late in her life. The issue was aired years ago. There was no point in prosecuting.

    Blunt (the 4th… 5th man?) was not prosecuted either in similar circumstances.

    • Jacky Treehorn

      ”there was no public interest or benefit in charging her” so say the left.
      All you have to do is replace 87yo commie traitor with white racist woman that caused the deaths of many black people and there would have been wholesale frothing at the mouth and a vigil set up outside her Norwood home by wimin against white people demanding justice innit!

  • itdoesntaddup

    I suspect that the death sentence for treason was still on the books when her treachery was unearthed. It was only formally removed in 1998. Indeed, her case might have played a part behind the scenes in ending capital punishment.

    • HookesLaw

      Huh? yes you are right… it doesn’t add up.

  • Stu

    A vile evil traitorous bitch. Shame we didn’t hang her. Oh by the way Teleprat, Hitler and the Nazi’s where socialists. The clues in the name. You should read some history and Hitler’s speeches.
    Alternatively go and get some therapy to treat your delusional, narcissistic problems. In case you hadn’t spotted it you are way too wrapped up in this blog. It’s not about you. When I have a quick glance you seem to spend your life here. Sad little chap that you are there is a world out there. have a look at it.

  • global city

    The establishment have been rife with these people.

    Here’s another one, with links to those still knocking round today.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218922/JACK-THE-TRAITOR-Special-investigation-reveals-Union-boss-sold-secrets-KGB-45-years.html

    Perhaps the speccie should root around a bit to see where the reds who used to be under the bed are nowadays.

  • Graeme S

    given a fair trial then hung ….

  • Blindsideflanker

    Yes she should have been prosecuted for Treason. She wasn’t because of the decadence of the British establishment, whose mantra of ‘tolerance’ is made to hide their moral cowardice. There are no principles or values they will defend, that is why we got multiculturalism, sharia law, the EU, and the failure to prosecute traitors.

  • Colonel Mustard

    Now if she had been male and groped someone inappropriately no expense would have been spared to bring her to justice.

  • Jambo25

    The KGB regarded Norwood as more valuable than The Cambridge spies largely because they couldn’t believe how good the material they got from them was. They thought that they might have been part of a double agent scam.
    Before some of the more delusional start blaming it all on those awful Labour lefties I’d look closer to home. It would have been nigh on impossible to

  • Colin

    I think you’ll find that the reluctance to prosecute this vile creature was due to the fear of not knowing where things would end up or where the evidence would lead.

    • rob232

      Yes, I think you’re probably right. This would be one of the reasons why Anthony Blunt’s treachery was covered up too.

  • @PhilKean1

    .
    Firing squad !
    .

  • anyfool

    Jack Straw a Home Secretary who would not prosecute a traitor who spied for the USSR, possibly a bit nearer to home than he would like.
    There has been a close connection between the leadership of Labour and those who have been involved in treachery, there still is, these old traitors are now the blue bloods of Labour.
    You can look at the state of country now to see how successful they have been, their job is almost complete, one last push with Red Ed and Britain will be no more, the culture, the science and the inventiveness that created the modern world will be swept away.

    • Inverted Meniscus

      I hate it when people tell the unvarnished truth. It is so depressing.

    • FF42

      I think Mitrokhin defected in 1992, so it would have been whoever was Attorney General at the time who decided not to prosecute. It might have been to protect the sources. Equally there may have been little prospect of winning the case against her.

      • anyfool

        The archive was being translated when this came to light, Mitrokhin brought 19 boxes of files and thousands of papers, so in all probability it would take years to isolate any one set of papers then putting together the evidence trail.

        I did not say he solely responsible, when he had the opportunity, he failed to carry out his duty, just like his father in the Second World War.

      • realfish

        She was ‘outed’ in 1999.

  • http://www.figurewizard.com/ figurewizard

    Shameful – She could no more be regarded as a special case as Max Clifford or Rolf Harris.

  • wycombewanderer

    Can we make up for that by prosecuting Telemachus instead?

    • Inverted Meniscus

      What judge could possibly stop him/herself laughing for long enough to pass judgement on that facile idiot.

  • Martin Adamson

    Not so much a failure of nerve as Labour not wanting to set a precedent.

    • Colonel Mustard

      More likely not wanting to prosecute a fellow traveller.

  • Inverted Meniscus

    And the government of the day was led by…….Tony Blair. Far too embarrassing to wash the dirty linen of an aged socialist nutter in court when the country was in the hands of the most dysfunctional, dishonest and duplicitous shower of socialist nutters in British history.

    • realfish

      And the Home Secretary of the time was one Jack Straw, reportedly deeply influenced by the Communist Party and by one of its leading lights Alan Hunt.
      One day, perhaps someone will write the book about how these young Communists of the time, including John Reid, Alastair Darling, Alan Johnson, Peter Mandelson and others wormed their way onto mainstream politics and stole Britain.

      • telemachus

        They may have been former communists but they made Britain strong and prosperous

        • James S

          Through an unsustainable credit bubble, yea right, thanks for that.

          • telemachus

            We all continue to benefit
            You should get down on your knees in thanks

            • Inverted Meniscus

              For the largest structural deficit in peacetime history. A 7.4% contraction in the economy. The politicisation of the civil service, destruction of private pension provision, a failed banking regulatory regime etc etc etc. Thanks Gordon you fatuous idiot.

              • telemachus

                Gordon got the economy growing again after Lehman blew in

                • Inverted Meniscus

                  That is simply a lie and nothing else. He borrowed more money thereby expanding GDP but there was no sustainable growth so kindly stop spreading the same lie in the hope it will become true.

                • MikeBrighton

                  If that’s the same as a 7.4 contraction in GDP then we agree.

                • MikeBrighton

                  Dan Hodges nailed your position re the truly disastrous economic stewardship under Labour ““The country went bust. We were in government when it went bust, but it wasn’t really our fault. It was the fault of the bankers. And big business. And this other group of people who we can’t readily identify, but who for the sake of argument we’ll call ‘vested interests’. They are the guilty men (and they are all men, by the way). Now, we know that four years ago you made the mistake of thinking it was our fault. Don’t worry, we don’t hold it against you. No hard feelings. But because you blamed us, you elected the Tories. And the problem is the Tories are friends with the bankers and big business and all those nasty vested interests. Again, don’t beat yourself up. It was a rookie error; could happen to anyone. But now you know it wasn’t our fault, and was actually all the fault of those other people, you can kick the Tories out and put us back in. And then we can all move on and forget any of this ever happened.”

                • Colonel Mustard

                  Truly brilliant. And what gets up their noses is that he is supposedly one of them. I’m surprised they haven’t issued a fatwa against him.

                • Daidragon

                  Indeed. He kept us out of the Euro as well.

                • Inverted Meniscus

                  To spite Blair not for sensible economic reasons. He wanted to be PM when we joined the euro.

                • Daidragon

                  Gordo created the 5 economic tests. He knew they could never be met. He was a eurosceptic like Ed Balls.

                • David B

                  No no no no and no

                • Tweety58

                  Commie liar and apologist.

              • Shazza

                You forgot selling the gold at rock bottom prices, PFI, slyly signing the Lisbon Treaty giving away our autonomy, encouraging 3rd world mass immigration, deliberately increasing welfare dependents, etc. etc……

                1997-2010 – Labour’s Reign of Terror

                • Inverted Meniscus

                  Your right Shazza but despair always takes over after banking regulatory failure and so I stop. I wouldn’t want to upset others either.

              • bluenose

                that’s why we can afford to lose 120 billion in taxes off companies like Amazon, we can also afford to go to war, we where nearly off to war in Syria, whilst we where getting ready to come out of another , which was costing us a billion a year. thing is the Tories supported the wars and continue to allow tax fiddling. Blair took us into the collapse by adopting the Thatcherite free market policies, if he had been a true left winger , he would never have entertained it. What about this govt selling off the Royal Mail on the cheap and Thatcher spending a fortune on just crushing the miners unions, lying , like she did over Hillsborough, seems like the Tories have been lying over a lot of stuff.

                • Inverted Meniscus

                  You socialist nutters never tire of spending other people’s money do you. Labour closed twice as many mines as Thatcher and made many more miners redundant. Thatcher merely stopped the practice of pouring good money after bad. The mines were uneconomic and had to be closed.

            • MirthaTidville

              The only time we should be on our knees in front of this load of scum is if we were lucky enough to be part of the firing squad they so richly deserve

            • David B

              That labour were put out of power and Miliband and Balls are working to keep it that way for a generation

            • Tweety58

              Who,Satan ?

        • Wilky1

          The people made Britain strong & preperous. They just broke the bank – again!

          Ran a massive deficit whilst taking the biggest tax intake in recorded history… Communist style old school redistributing wealth that wasn’t even theirs to redistribute!

        • MikeBrighton

          Perhaps you didn’t notice but in 2010 when Labour lost the general election the economy of the country looked ruined, let alone our moral standing in the world.

        • vieuxceps2

          No, Silly Tele, that was Mrs Thatcher.Now just lie down awhile….

        • Jacky Treehorn

          I think you might have had a point if they had turned a struggling country round from a deppresion or a slump but they didn’t. They inherited a well run and prosperous country where everything was on the up. They returned it after almost bankrupting it and destroying any social cohesion with its spitefull decision to invite the third world here just to annoy the right.. Just scum, the lot of you.

      • Shazza

        I disagree. The book will be all about praise for these traitors. it will be written by some moslem ‘scholar’ showing how the infidel bowed before the might of islam, how New Labour aided and assisted the islamification of the UK by encouraging multiculturalism and stifling free speech so enabling the invaders to destroy our civilisation. Communism and islam – both autocratic, fascist ideologies designed to oppress and destroy the individual’s natural joy, ambition and energy.

        • Mark Copestake

          says an obvious fascist, racist and bigot.

          • bluenose

            and how can Communism be a fascist idealism, oh dear oh dear, you need to go back to school

            • PaulLibertarian

              He presumably means they are both authoritarian.

              • Terry101

                And both socialist.

          • Shazza

            Nope, not just blind to the horrors that the twin evil ideologies of islam and Communism have visited on mankind.
            You, by your accusation, obviously agree with totalitarian rule.
            I think I know who the fascist is. Where would you rather live, Saudi Arabia or the USA?

      • Daidragon

        ‘One day, perhaps someone will write the book about how these young Communists of the time, including John Reid, Alastair Darling, Alan Johnson, Peter Mandelson and others wormed their way onto mainstream politics and stole Britain’.

        By winning elections.

        • realfish

          Winning elections….by pretending to be something they weren’t. If they stood as Communists they would never have been elected.
          And of course by not winning elections – using an entryism into the bureaucracy to place their people in institutions, quangos, the media, the law, schools, universities and educational institutions to ensure the continuity of Socialism in opposition and in defiance of the electorate.

          • Daidragon

            If you think NuLab were commies then I’d like an ounce of what you’re smoking. The gentlemen you mentioned gained their office through legitimate democratic means. Get over it.

            • Colonel Mustard

              Come off it. We all know about “safe seats” and what they mean. NuLab was infested with “ex”-commies but in fact behaved more like national socialists.

              How is that Welsh Labour thing going?

            • vieuxceps2

              No, they were not legitimate meand.They believed in communism but labelled themselves Labour.They deluded their supporters and ruined a nation for a creed outworn.

              • Daidragon

                Plenty of right wingers were lefty youngsters. Look at the Speccies own Rod Liddle for an example. The idea that Blair’s labour govt were communists is just howling at the moon stuff again. Seriously, this site has gone to the dogs if that is the level of debate.

              • Mark Copestake

                so what part of their politics is communism, do you even know what communism is

            • Inverted Meniscus

              And unfair constituency boundaries.

              • Daidragon

                Thatcher won 3 elections under those boundaries. Major once. You’re just clinging to these myths because the Tories have become a rural, suburban English party who’s vote is spread too narrowly. Thatcher is your icon but she really fucked up the Tory future by making them insignificant in Scotland, Wales, the North and nearly every large city in the country. Typical right wing though would rather gerrymander than try and broaden their appeal.

                • bigmax

                  The boundaries stayed the same but the people moved, giving an inbuilt bias to Labour.

                  Usually the boundaries are redrawn from time to time to reflect population movements, but this time the updates were prevented by an unholy alliance of Labour and the LibDems.

                  Who’d have thought it, Clegg-the political heir to Gladstone, and Labour, being happy to profit from gerrymandered boundaries.

                • Inverted Meniscus

                  I think big max has just kicked your leftist butt.

                • bigmax

                  Thanks, but it wasn’t difficult really.

                • Inverted Meniscus

                  Yeah but I enjoyed it.

                • bluenose

                  I think that Daidragon more than wiped the floor with Big max, but that’s not difficult considering the level of intelligence on here politically speaking, what a bunch of dumb fucks.

                • Inverted Meniscus

                  As your feeble command of the English language demonstrates. Another ignorant socialist nutter no doubt.

                • bigmax

                  What you mean is people here don’t agree with you. That doesn’t make us dumb fucks. But your abuse to anyone who doesn’t agree with you says a lot about you.

                • Daidragon

                  All very silly. Equalising constituencies, reducing the number of MP’s and using voter registration numbers instead of population figures was a lovely wheeze thought up in Tory HQ and designed to gain them an extra 30 seats without having to do anything tricky like changing and becoming more attractive to voters. Equalised constituencies would barely affect the electoral reality either which is why they have to be connected to a reduction in the number of MP’s before they become an effective gerrymander. All very obvious.

                • bigmax

                  Given the number of immigrants in our inner cities not entitled to vote it’s obvious voter registration numbers should be used instead of population figures. British people have moved out of the inner cities and Labour can now get those constituencies with fewer votes than the Conservatives need in their areas.
                  The gerrymandering is being done by Labour and the LibDem crooks, who blocked reform and are happy to benefit-as are you apparently. The Conservatives need 7% more of the vote just to be equal with Labour in parliament. Even the most biased socialists should think that is unfair, but Labour supporters never cease to shock me with their hypocrisy and partisanship.

                  And I thought this “lovely wheeze” was thought up by the Boundary Commission, not Tory HQ.

                  By the way, what do you mean by “Equalising constituencies” and, in a FPTP system, shouldn’t constituencies be equal size. What do you find wrong with it?

                • PaulLibertarian

                  NuLabor gerrymandered quite deliberately by mass immigration.

            • bluenose

              I know ignorance is rife on this thread, politics is not their strongest subject.

              • bigmax

                You mean we’re not socialists.

          • bluenose

            but they are not communists, none of their them use the communist ideology in any way shape or form, the are not even socialists.

        • Inverted Meniscus

          And destroying the country.

        • Mark Copestake

          lol you actually think that those people are communists, all of the people you mention are right wingers, they don’t belong in a socialist party, that’s why labour is no longer a party of the left.

      • HookesLaw

        Tin foil hat time I see. There is no need to invent nutjob conspiracies about Alan Johnson (etc), he is a big enough idiot in reality.

      • Guest

        Jack Straw another one that is no where near being a socialist, where did you guys learn about politics.

      • Mark Copestake

        Jack Straw is not a socialists, where did you guys get your political eduction, he is at a Balirite.

      • bluenose

        Jack Straw is not a communist, he may have been at Uni , but he soon snapped out of that, he is a right wing Blairite, in fact all of the people you mention are right wing Blairites. I do not know where you guys have learned your politics, but you are sadly lacking knowledge on the left.

    • telemachus

      As you know, most of these Soviet spies started out seeing Russia as a useful foil to the fascist regimes sweeping Europe
      And most then became trapped in the role
      As they say in the US it was reasonable to cut them a little slack
      Tony was courageous but right

      • Inverted Meniscus

        Got your briefing from Labour HQ then.

      • Inverted Meniscus

        Pity they didn’t stop Britain’s fascist Labour Party.

        • telemachus

          Please read the OED for a definition of fascism

          • Inverted Meniscus

            Authoritarian, regarding everybody and every institution as property of the state. Fits Fascist Labour perfectly.

            • telemachus

              You forgot the words right wing always included

              • Inverted Meniscus

                No I will never forget the lying scum who destroyed this country between 1997 and 2010.

              • Colonel Mustard

                Not really. The fascists in Germany were socialists, as were New Labour.

              • global city

                socialist

        • bluenose

          lol you wouldn’t know fascism if it slapped you in the face, you thick plank, you just keep churning out the crap, love to know where you lot studied politics, was it toy land.

          • Inverted Meniscus

            Authoritarian, anti-democratic, anti freedom of speech and regarding everybody and everything as a subsidiary of the state – sounds like the Labour Party to me. Sorry the Fascist Labour Party. When will you socialist nutters ever tire of stealing money from the productive and useful members of society in an effort to gerrymander the feckless, unproductive scum that vote Labour?

      • David B

        Fascism/communism – same thing when you get down to it! They both killed lots of people because they disagreed with the leaders.

        • Daidragon

          Two vile ideologies but fascism is really defined by the false conflation of nationalism, patriotism, capitalism and xenophobia/racism. Of more appeal to the right, than left winger.

          • Colonel Mustard

            And yet the very worst regimes in history have declared themselves to be socialist or communist. So something vile must appeal to the left winger too. Besides they are all on the same road, the ones starting out sing The Red Flag, call themselves communists and look ahead to a Marxist “utopia” and the ones who have made it and are filthy rich still sing the Red Flag but look back and call themselves socialists.

            Your definition of fascism is tripe by the way, a concoction contrived to serve left wing prejudices in a modern British setting by ignoring the strong left-wing aspects of it. Even Wiki’s definition is more astute:-

            “Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, fascism originated in Italy during World War I, combining more typically right-wing positions with elements of left-wing politics”

      • vieuxceps2

        As you know most of these Labour spies started out seeing Russia as a useful foil to the democratic ideas sweeping Europe.
        And most were happy in the role.
        Thry were cut some slack by their Party members.
        How is “Tony” by the way? Still keeeping in touch?

    • GraveDave

      When Anthony Blunt was exposed, who was in then.

    • Mark Copestake

      But Blair was not a socialist, how can anyone possibly think that the Thatcherite Blair was anything remotely to do with the left.

      • Inverted Meniscus

        Yes but the party he led was the socialist nutter Labour Party.

    • bluenose

      Tony Blair was not a socialist, there was nothing about Blair that was a Socialist and I don’t even know why you could think that he is, he is a Thatcherite.

      • Inverted Meniscus

        Remind me, he was leader of… …the socialist nutterLabour party.

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