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London’s pro-Palestine rally was a disgusting anti-Semitic spectacle

19 July 2014

4:33 PM

19 July 2014

4:33 PM

Thousands of anti-Semites have today succeeded in bringing central London to an almost total standstill.

They marched though the centre of the city before congregating to scream outside the Israeli Embassy in Kensington. It was interesting to watch this rather non-diverse crowd pass. Most of the women seem to be wearing headscarves or the burka, while their men-folk were naturally more appropriately dressed for a sweltering summer day.

But what a picture. These are the people who stayed at home throughout the Syrian civil war, stayed at home when ISIS rampaged across Iraq, stayed at home when Boko Haram and Al-Shabaab carried out their atrocities across central Africa and showed no concern whatsoever when the Muslim Brotherhood was running Egypt into the ground. Yet they pretend to care about Muslims.

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And here they all are, coming out to scream because Israel is carrying out the most specific and targeted campaign in the history of warfare in order to stop Hamas – a group dedicated to the annihilation of all Jews – from firing thousands of rockets into the Jewish homeland.

Image: CARL COURT/AFP/Getty Images)

Image: CARL COURT/AFP/Getty Images)

I suppose some of the people in London today might still try to pretend that they don’t hate Jews. Perhaps some of them would not even do what their co-religionists in France did last week when – intent on violence – they blockaded worshippers inside a Synagogue. But there is only one explanation for their horrible beliefs and actions.

The truest expression of their views was given voice a few years ago by the popular al-Jazeera star and leading cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi when he said:

‘Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the [Jews] people who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them – even though they exaggerated this issue – he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them. Allah willing, the next time will be at the hands of the believers.’


Sheikh Qaradawi himself is no longer lauded by a Mayor of London, but his disciples flooded the city’s streets today. What a disgusting sight to see in our capital.

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  • Darien Sorrentino

    “Anti-semetic” is pure name calling and slander like “heretic” or “witch”, it’s a refusal to see an issue through another person’s eyes, a refusal to walk in another person’s shoes and to justify your own actions, a vain attempt to make a jab, to run away from the truth and inflate one’s own ego and or self proclaimed righteousness, to justify killing and pervert the views of another while trying to gain people to side with you and strengthen those who share the same views. The United Nations illegally gave palestine to the jewish RELIGION, and the united states tried to declare the religion of judaism as a race around the time of one of the world wars, so , we’re not anti-semetic, we’re tolerant of the jewish religion, we’re not tolerant with killing people over an idea

    • bbjensen

      actually no. anti semitism is racism. islamophobia is name calling.
      jews are ethnic group.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions
      you can be secular/atheist and jewish.
      jews are just like chinese or blacks or arabs. they are ethnic group. and also can follow judaism or not.

      • Omega

        Semites:

        “Present-day Jews are a pot-pourri of every race of man, and they do not have any geneaological or racial derivation from the ancient peoples of the Holy Land. Since “Jews” were a mixed race from the beginning, the term “Semites” applied to them, admittedly, is silly. Thus, “Anti-Semitism,” actually means “Anti-Pharisaism.” The Chazars, for example, were part of an Asiatic horde which adopted Talmudism in the 8th Century, when their King, Bulan, and his Court did so. Their descendants constituted the Ashkenazi Jews of Russia, Poland, and Germany, who in turn migrated in large numbers to the United States. There have been Chinese “Jews” for centuries, also India “Jews,” and Falasha Negro “Jews.”

        The Negro Jews of New York City have recently been asking for money for a new synagogue, claiming that they number about 120,000 members, maintain five synagogues and need money for a new one. Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor, Negro Sammy Davis, and many others have been notable additions to the Pharisee sect of “Chosen People.” (See accompanying photostats, Exhibits A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and H, pages 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66 [original page numbers])”

        http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt09.html

        Israel:

        Aside from the fact that there never was an Exodus of Jews – you know: millions walking from Egypt to the “Promised Land” …

        “It is hard to believe that 600,000 families (which would mean about two million people) crossed the entire Sinai without leaving one shard of pottery (the archeologist’s best friend) with Hebrew writing on it.”

        read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.420844

        The geographical location was an even bigger lie – a re-re-re-re-re-re-written lie/myth/fairytale:

        http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/01/04/abrahams-pharaoh-was-not-king-of-egypt/

  • Darien Sorrentino

    “Anti-semetic” is pure name calling and slander like “heretic” or “witch”, it’s a refusal to see an issue through another person’s eyes, a refusal to walk in another person’s shoes and to justify your own actions, a vain attempt to make a jab, to run away from the truth and inflate one’s own ego and or self proclaimed righteousness, to justify killing and pervert the views of another while trying to gain people to side with you and strengthen those who share the same views. The United Nations illegally gave palestine to the jewish RELIGION, and the united states tried to declare the religion of palestine as a race around the time of one of the world wars, so , we’re not anti-semetic, we’re tolerant of the jewish religion, we’re not tolerant with killing people over an idea

  • RainbowManandVan

    Nice blog. Keep sharing.

  • Resonant Frequency

    Zionist do not deal in facts they just like to use the word facts alot to obscure all those lies they tell.

  • se7en

    Thanks for sharing…58eveningdress.

  • Aine O’Neill

    These comments from the dreks are the usual nonsense oh! the poor so called Palis and the evil Israelis my God I am sick of seeing such drivel.

  • sara

    If we all lived our lives by your logic we would still have black people
    riding at the backs of buses, women not allowed to vote and children up
    the chimneys!
    ترجمه انگلیسی به فارسی

    دستگاه حضور و غیاب

  • sara

    Post ’48 700,000 Palestinian refugees were forced off their

    درب ضد سرقت
    اجرای نمای ساختمان

  • ‘MURICA – the original

    Silly 2$ article, written by a apparent Arabo-phobe complaining about “Anti-Semitism” Asif Anti antisemitism has anything to do with race.
    Asif Jews are a race.

    This was clearly a Political rally, – Against what Israel is Doing.
    This article doesn’t even attempt to be neutral.

  • kasey

    well its about time everyone stepped up to the times … all old fashioned ideologies why cant we all look after the children of this world instead of bombing them??? none of us are better than anyone else so lets just think of what our actions can cause … theres enough room on this world for us all so why cant we live and let live … its all religion etc … and i`m not religious myself but respect those that are … but seems its just an excuse to fire missiles and cause hate … jeez theres so much more out there … and a couple of guys bouncing words back at one another on here wont help mtters at all … theres just wrong and right??? the ones thats wrong need to step up and start doing right so our children are safe .. and when i say our children i mean children of the world as they`re all innocent …

  • William Fenton

    You filthy scum. There is nothing anti-semetic about anti-zionism. Weedy cowardly cretin.

  • Peter

    How rude and false is this article! I was at the protest the article speaks of and I never heard a single anti-semtic comment. In fact I saw many Jews there too! Don;t take my word for it, look it up on videos on youtube. The demo was a protest against the genocide that Israel has been committing and the murder of young children by the zionists. This is what every human being should do. If anything this article is disgusting and full of zionist propaganda. The writer and all along with it should be ashamed of themselves

  • Jacques Strap

    Go home you smelly b*st*rds!

  • Liz Perrott

    I am tired of every criticism of the Zionist State of Israel being portrayed as anti Semitism .. First of all, there are many people in Israel itself who are anti Zionist and anti land grab. There are even more Jewish people around the world who are horrified by what the State of Israel is doing. If Israel had not occupied and continue to occupy land which was not agreed as part of the original settlement, we wouldn’t have this continual conflict. The historic Israel and the State of Israel are not the same thing. The Jews were only one group of Semites , the Arabs are also Semitic people. That means Hamas is a Semitic group too.

  • Phil Robinson

    Clearly whoever wrote this wasn’t there or chose to see just exactly what they wanted to see. Pathetic attempt at ‘journalism’.

  • patriciasheerinrichman

    This is total b******s. I have taken part in 6 or 7 pro-Gaza demonstrations in London in the last five weeks and have never witnessed any anti-Semitism (a term which is being bandied about like a punch line to shut off any debate about the Israeli assault on Gaza.) On each occasion I have witnessed an inspiring display of unity between Muslims, Jews, Christians and people of no faith. There have been speeches by people from all sections of the community including Jews for Justice for Palestinians (I suppose The Spectator would regard this group as Jew-hating Jews).
    And I don’t wear a headscarf or a burka. I am a white, agnostic grandmother who campaigned against apartheid and genocide in South Africa and I am now campaigning against apartheid and genocide in Palestine. I’m sorry if those Jews with a victim mentality believe, because their ancestors suffered at the hands of the Nazis in Germany, that this entitles them to a permanent footing on the moral high ground in any circumstance. One Holocaust does not justify another.

    • David

      Sweetheart, Israel is not committing genocide. They are giving warnings to Palestinians to flee target areas. Hamas intercepts the warnings an intentionally places civilians in harm’s way. Israel gives aid to millions of impoverished people worldwide, including people in Muslim majority countries whose governments do not recognize Israel. Muslim and Jewish doctors attend to the injured in Gaza. Israel has the moral high ground because it is a democracy fighting a war on many fronts. Israel has freedom of speech, freedom of expression and freedom of the press. The reason there are protests in Israel is because people have that right. Palestinians are executed en masse if they try to exercise this right. Hamas/Palestinian Authority and their previous guises proudly commit war crimes and human rights abuses every day. They execute dissident journalists, use women as human shields and use disabled children as suicide bombers. Hamas also demands the annihilation of Israel. They are not a group to be negotiated with. The first thing they did when they took office in 2006 was to execute its political opposition. And you are telling me the problem is Israel? Hamas must be destroyed for the well being of both Israelis and Palestinians.

  • Rob Silvertree

    Wars kill innocents. Stop trying to pretend otherwise..Islam is the cause and that ideology will use any tool, including human shields, to achieve it’s goal. Show me a Muslims for peace march, show me a decent, democratic Muslim country. Where are the massed demonstrations against any Islamic terror group. You people are so transparently one sided that you have no credibility. I and millions of others find you disgusting. If the west had any sense we would deal with it’s Muslim settlers in exactly the same way the Qu’ran tells Muslims to deal with Jews and Christians. Then, and only then, would you have cause to whine. Something, the only thing, that you do well.

  • Eldarus

    I’m curious do UK people even know their own history? or is it a generation of ret…rds is growing?

  • Eldarus

    I think UK have no business in Israel. All ties with this new Islamic country should be stopped, their support of terrorists is insult. Israel did maximum to prevent the violence, but you still keep buying the bull…t of pictures of dead civilians. YES this is a war, and if you don’t like it, don’t WATCH IT!!!!

    • Brian Henderson

      A war would suggest 2 armies

      Tell me, whats the size of the Palestinian army and how many munitions does it hold in stock?

      • Angela Horne

        all pal has to do is give up and surrender

        • Brian Henderson

          Surrender?
          All the Jews had to do during WWII was admit they are dirty, money grabbing, disease spreading creed that didnt deserve to live….according to Hitler. (May I add, before I am lynched, this is not a view I hold whatsoever. I also dont believe normal, every day Israelis share your xenophobic, racist, anti-Muslim views)

          You must be so proud of yourself, your external views and ability to see woods for trees.

          You make me proud to be human.

          • Angela Horne

            oversimplifaction there, as you conflate one part of history with another, because nazis and muslims actually shared a dislike of jews, proud human that you are, you must face the website that you have ignored three times so far… http://thereligionofpeace.com
            tell me when Musliims will actually start their peace movement, for right now, this day, only they claim to be pacifists, no other religion does, so please start it, go on, bring back the 1960s, no more wars

            • Brian Henderson

              Once again, justify your country’s genocide.

              You cant

              All you can do is point fingers

              Religion of peace, try following Gautama.

              • Angela Horne

                quit stalling…just start that global pacifist movement

              • Shiva Devottee

                “try following Gautama”

                This. I’ve traveled through the Americas, Europe and the Middle East teaching Christians, Muslims and Jews the Dharma. I was happy to see many are receptive. Of course there’s still a long way to go.

          • Leonard Halstead

            You call yourself a human ? …You are cowardly sniveling fool who loves and worship Hamas. What a forked serpentine tongue you have….calling the Jews of Europe that and in the very next sentence saying you don’t believe every day Jews don’t share Angela Homes views…well those Jews that Hitler murdered in the Millions were everyday Jews some of who survived and are the very Israelis you are using to try and lighten you’re baltant hatred of Jews…Liar..Go dig a hole.

            • Brian Henderson

              lolathon

              Explain how I have worshipped Hamas
              Show me how I have glorified anything they have done
              I did not call the European Jews anything at all, I used the lovely hearted Angela’s own example and turned it on her. Whats wrong with that, if you dont like being stoned dont throw them, simple.

              • Leonard Halstead

                Brian if anyone kept silent about the horrendous killings, raping and kidnappings that Muslims are committing against Christians and minorities nearly every day of the week then they are as guilty as those who actually defend these murderers with their sick ideology which includes Hamas. Why are you so ,offensive against Israel but try to excuse what the Palestinians themselves are allowing their oppressors ( Hamas) to perpetrate on the Israeli people. The Palestinians have been given enough ample warnings to escape and to avoid places where they might be in danger of IDF attack, something no other army in the world does, yet they do not heed the warnings instead purposely putting their children in harms way. Do they really believe what Hamas says of them that they love death more than LIfe ? If that is the case then it becomes very difficult to have compassion on such people.

                • David

                  To be fair to them, they are ordered to stay in the war zone at gunpoint. Many of them just don’t want to leave their homes.

              • Leonard Halstead

                Go through your comments and see if it doesn’t reveal to anyone that you worship Hamas…It oozes between you words…you cant help it Brian …you poor bastard..you cant hide it from anyone.

      • Leonard Halstead

        What’s a stupid Hyena attacking a Lion ? Want its necked snapped ? Why don’t you ask your Hamas friends why they attacked one of the most modern military in the World. They cannot help themselves. Their overwhelming hatred of Israel and all it stands for (ask the Arab Israelis) drives them insane and they go on a suicidal campaign…I only pity the civilians of Gaza, but you feel sorry for Hamas ? Go and cry me a river into the Gazan sewers.

        • Brian Henderson

          Hamas is not Palestine, its a militant group that is trying to rid its lands of a cruel and overly brutal occupier.

          Hamas is not the Palestinian army
          Hamas is not representative of the people in Palestine

          I have never said I feel sorry for Hamas, you are the one confusing Hamas with the people of Gaza. The 4 boys killed on the beach, the 1000+ children injured, over 200 children killed. Are they all Hamas members?

          • Leonard Halstead

            You must be really stupid, daft or just a plain bigot. There’s a war going on. Hamas rockets Israel from the beach…Suddenly 4 young boys in the midst of a raging war playing ball on the beach…wow very convenient…Who in the world sends their 4 little sons to play on the beach ? OH what did Hamas say? We Fakestinians love death more than Life….there’s your answer.

            • Brian Henderson

              Back to being called a bigot, what next, anti-Semite maybe?

              Thats right its the children fault, the parents fault, its that guy at the end of the streets fault.

              Who fired?

              There’s where the fault lies.

              Imagine children playing, just imagine. The destruction a child playing can make. They sure do deserve to be fired upon for playing dont they?

              Its not a war, its an illegal occupation.

          • David

            Um, you really are stupid. Hamas was elected by the people of Gaza in the 2006 elections, so unfortunately their sentiments (annihilation of Israel being the main theme) probably are supported and they do represent the people of Gaza. The first thing they did was execute the opposition and ban future elections. They are a bunch of malevolent terrorists that must be destroyed. The fact that Israel has a stronger army and funding from the West is a good thing because without it, they would have been annihilated. Don’t tell me Israel is the brutal occupier. It is Islam that wishes to occupy every country it sets foot in, particularly Hamas.

            • Brian Henderson

              Hamas renounced their charter that demands the destruction of Israel in 2006 and again in 2010.

              Like every other excuse for killing Palestinians that one is out of date.

              Next excuse…

              • David

                Rubbish. Hamas leaders give speeches calling for the destruction of Israel (and Jews in general) all the time. Khaled Masaal did this just last week. Ismael Heniyeh did it a couple of months before this most recent conflict.

                • Brian Henderson
                • David

                  You are an idiot! Everyone knows Hamas tell the West different things from what they tell their own people, particularly as a PR stunt before an election. They do this to get sympathy from the West, but it won’t work with me. I have seen the reports from Palestinian journalists under death threat from Hamas for speaking out against the regime. On the first day of this conflict Hamas leaders called for the murder of every Israeli. Why don’t you have a problem with this? Israel is not invading anyone’s home. They are building new settlements which are definitely illegal. The UN is a joke of an organisation, particularly when it comes to justified warfare. Just ask the people of Darfur, Mozambique and Rwanda.

                • Brian Henderson

                  I’m an idiot?
                  I’m not the one that has just claimed that its fine to kill 200+ children in a 4 week period because Hamas lie to the west.
                  I’m also not the one that just came up with yet another excuse for killing children
                  All I read from you are insults and poor excuses for killing people, innocent children and women. Bombing hospitals, schools, football games (there were no rockets fired from that beach, IDL have said as much so just stop lying!)

                  Are you so proud of Israel you cant see killing children is both wrong and illegal in war?

                  All you have are poor, sorry excuses.

                  How many Israeli civilians died in the last 4 weeks from Hamas rockets?
                  Eye for an eye? Try decapitation for a stubbed toe.

                • David

                  OK, first I haven’t said it is OK to kill children. Unfortunately civilian deaths are a natural consequence of war, especially in such a densely populated area where civilians refuse to flee their homes for safety (Israel give plenty of warnings to civilians) and where Hamas store weapons and fire rockets from mosques and schools. Israel is not intentionally targeting innocent civilians. The beach had been shelled frequently before the children were there. They were warned not to go on the beach by Israel and their parents but they chose to go anyway. One of them even said to his younger brother that he wasn’t allowed to go because it was too dangerous. There are Hamas operations (including rocket fire) on that beach and it is a legitimate target. The IDF even conducted an official investigation into the incident. Also, the mother of one of them spoke out against Hamas because they had killed 10 of her family members in cold blood. Why don’t you think Hamas should be held accountable for this?

                • Brian Henderson

                  Why is the area overpopulated?
                  Might have something to do with their land being stolen, their homes being lived in and more being built and settled by Israelis, no?
                  The last school that was blown up, a UN designated shelter, was blasted to bits because a rocket came from the vicinity (IDF words, not mine) so Israel blew up a UN shelter because it decided to. Not because rockets were in the building and not because Hamas or one of the other groups had fired directly from it but because somewhere close by did.
                  IDF knew there were women and children in that building
                  IDF knew it was a designate UN shelter
                  IDF blew it to bits anyway

                  4 boys playing football on a beach
                  No weapons of any kind
                  IDF saw them from one of the many boats blockading aid from getting into Gaza.
                  IDF killed them

                  Seriously, get a grip of yourself. Collateral damage that is not. That is murder, that is a war crime, there is no excuse for that yet you and plenty others on here are dying to find one. I’ve read every excuse now from its their own fault for being there to they perform female genital mutilation so deserve it.

                  So, again, how many Israeli civilians were killed in the last month as a result of a Hamas rocket?
                  You call that a war?

                • David

                  You are a moron! You said that Israel was retaliating against rocket fire in a particular area, then you say the retaliation was an intentional attack on innocent people.

                  Jews didn’t steal the land. This is terrible propaganda. In any case, most of the Palestinians in the area are descendants of immigrants from surrounding countries in the 1920s and 1930s. Not many Israelis have been killed – about 70 overall but what has that got to do with Israel’s justified defence? Hamas and other groups have fired over 3000 rockets intentionally at civilians, each one is a new war crime and you are supporting that?

                • Brian Henderson

                  2 civilians died last month from rocket attacks.

                  Excuses excuses excuses.

                  War criminals
                  Genocidal maniacs
                  Ethnically cleansing an entire area
                  But its not Israels fault, no. Of course it isnt, they are only defending themselves.
                  Thats sarcasm, just in case it didnt quite come through.

                • David

                  You have just demonstrated that you know nothing about the conflict. For you to call Israel genocidal just doesn’t deserve to be debated. Israel could wipe every Palestinian out in a matter of a few days if they were genocidal. Instead they give warnings to Gazans which gives away Israeli tactics to Hamas, they provide medical supplies and truckloads of various other supplies to Gazans every day and Israeli doctors (both Jewish and Muslim) attend to the injured. For you to describe this as ethnic cleansing shows that you are probably just getting your opinions from a single anti-Semitic source, whereas I have studied the history of the conflict and I get news from all areas of the press, including journalists in Gaza.

                • Brian Henderson

                  You make it sound like some sort of weird SciFi film. Blow them up, patch them up, blow them up again.

                  I’m so sorry I got it so wrong, nice guys after all.

        • Brian Henderson

          I’ve been studying Israeli army martial arts. I now know 16 ways to kick a Palestinian woman in the back.

          People think that the Middle East is very complex but I have an analogy that sums it up quite well. If you imagine that Palestine is a big cake, well … that cake is being punched to pieces by a very angry Jew.

  • razdanraz

    Is this guy Murray insane or is he just a rabid bigoted anti-Muslim fascist ? Or is he just an idiot? Arabs too are a Semitic race for his stupid information. Marching against human injustice is not being anti-this or anti that. It simply means human beings are against bullying or other forms of violence of violence . Even the US is horrified at the highhanded murdering policies of Israel as they unhesitatingly bomb and kill helpless little children,hospitals,schools,power plants. This are serious war crimes. Ban ki Moon himself has openly stated this before the whole world. Humans like Dr Mads Gilbert went as far as to ask Obama’ Obama do you have a heart’? Just come and stay for a night in Gaza. History will change ‘ he said. So does it mean he is a Hamas supporter? or anti Israel? Why is Murray such a stupid dumb f…k? Oh no. He is not stupid. In fact he belongs to the likes of evil Muslim hating scum like Pamela Geller,Robert Spencer and so on. Bet they are tweeting love messages to each other. On the whole it is disappointing that Britain of all the countries that fought against fascism and human oppression in an actual war is today the least enthusiastic about this ideology. We have such disgraceful individuals in our society making us feel so ashamed and disgusted. This is not about Muslims,Christians or Jews. This is about a human issue. 1800 defenseless civilians mostly children,women and babies have been trapped and killed by the most deadly Israeli military machine while 10000 lie wounded in hospitals which may be bombed anytime. and scum like Murray think it is alright. Have we lost all the spirit of humanity? Hamas is not even there. The aim is to find some excuse to deliberately target civilians especially children and women so that they are wiped out completely. Palestinians don’t matter. Muslims don’t matter. They are insects after all. They deserve to die. The Israelis are ‘God’s chosen people’ and they have a right to survive. Muslims don’t have a right to even speak the truth or show the reality to the world. Such unbelievable hatred. Such bigotry. What has Britain descended into? O God!

    • Angela Horne

      loving moms? female gential mutilation, child brides, honour killings, child soldiers too, all parts of some remarkably non-pacifist parenting, ban them all, or none

      • razdanraz

        Bombing schools hospitals homes.deliberately targeting children according to unicef report and condemned by the un. Exposed by Dr mads gilbert for the barbarism and savagery of Israeli.war machine targeting g mostly women and children then blaming Hama’s for’human shields’ to fool the world. Do u people have a soul? How can u support the actions of a racist terrorist state? Its like patting the Ku Klux Klan on the back!

        • Angela Horne

          all pal has to do is surrender

          • MartinAlaskan

            The Muslim Arab Palestinians don’t even have to go through the shame of yet another “surrender,” which their fighters/militaries are notoriously famous for world wide – they haven’t won a war yet, the proof are the living, breathing, Jews of Israel who would have been exterminated. All Hamas must do is to stop firing rockets at Israel, that’s it, no treaties signed, no video conferences, no walk of shame – an ability that they seem not to posses anyways.

            The UN, with American and European funding, will start pumping into Gaza the money & materials for another round of rebuilding which will enable Hamas to build more tunnels, buy more missiles, and soon fight again. Personally I’d let the rubble lie where it fell as a constant reminder of the price for attacking Israel, if the Palestinians want to rebuild they can do it themselves just as the Germans and the Japanese did after WWII.
            The world, through its ridiculously extravagant economic support of the Palestinian “refugees” compared to all the other 17 million refugees that exist, has for far too long coddled the Palestinians from the consequences of their actions.
            It is time to stop devoting time, money, and energy on the Palestinians, they have squandered dozens of opportunities at peace and billions of dollars on Swiss bank accounts, tunnels, missiles, a population explosion, and an obesity epidemic. It is time to channel our resources to the other 17 million refugees who have been forgotten, and to finally give them at least one of those opportunities at self betterment that the Palestinians have routinely pissed away.

      • razdanraz

        typical Zionist .murderous,barbaric and savage.

    • David

      The point he is making is everyone is so quick to criticize Israel rather than any other group. Unlike a lot of Islamic groups, Israel does not intentionally target innocent civilians, doesn’t call for the annihilation of Palestine, doesn’t ban freedom of expression or freedom of assembly and the press, doesn’t deny women’s rights etc. These people never come out to protest actual genocides in other countries and if they knew anything about the conflict (surveys I have seen suggest they don’t) they would call for the destruction of Hamas if they had any real concern for Palestinians. Thousands of Palestinians have been slaughtered in Syria, but nobody in this country protests that. I don’t think it is anti-Semitism, it is just ignorance and the fact that a lot of people adopt the masochistic attitude of assuming ‘it is our fault’ (or the fault of the West/advanced country).

    • Eldarus

      1800 “defenseless” so called “Civilians” should thank Hamas.

    • Guest

      female genital mutilation, child brides, honour killings are all ok, it is just child soldiers/decoys that you have a problem with?

    • Leonard Halstead

      Hamas wasn’t even there ? What hole did you crawl out of ? The IDF must have made up all those pinpointed hits on those rocket, mortar, gun, fires seen on the videos emanating from schools , playgrounds, mosques, hospitals, public places, etc. Must be all made up videos heh ? Just shut up with your bullshit about IDF firing on civilians because they didnt…we have heard and seen all warnings to Gaza’s civilians using megaphones, leaflets, telephone calls, fire knocking, etc, etc. Many idiotic civilians refused to escape or leave and even when they tried Hamas threatened to kill them on the spot. UNRWA in concerted efforts with Hamas lied through their teeth about civilians rocketed by IDF in schools and UN buildings, playgrounds etc., all the pictures they show are after the fact but never one single pic or video of actual hits on civilians. 1800 civilians ? Are you trying to say that that not a single Hamas terrrorist was killed ? Don’t bother you will just lie…since you are all Taqiyya Kings of the East.

      • razdanraz

        dear king of the universe.To you Hamas are those kids throwing stones at the world’s most powerful military machine. Israel today is a disgraced country in the eyes of the world. It is too late for you to even support it.This is a savage,barbarous evil society bent on annihilating a population whose lands they have usurped with impunity. They made Gaza a virtual open air prison terrorizing the poor unemployed defenseless population whose only demand is to be independent. Israel’s agenda is to kill the women and children deliberately as confirmed by the UNICEF. An Israeli woman politician actually said :We must kill the women of Gaza so that they don’t bear these ‘little snakes’ as she called them. ‘We must kill all the children so that they don’t grow up and take revenge on us’. No wonder there were so many civilian casualties. 1900 killed by the world’s most deadly weapons women and children bearing an 80% brunt. And you talk in favor of such terrorists? You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

  • Brian Henderson

    Tell me please, how does having a moral objection to the ethnic cleansing of an area and disagreeing with the tactic of running a concentration camp in the west bank equate to being an anti-Semite? Just because I feel the Israeli government has been overzealous with its action in Gaza that does not mean I hate Jews. Just like I feel the UK government was overzealous with its actions in Northern Ireland, being fro the UK and living in the UK it would be a bit hard for me to then hate the UK for our governments actions in Belfast in the 70’s and 80’s. Disagreeing with a government position doesnt mean you then hate the religion of that government. Stop using this argument as a defence of the indefensible. All it does is polarise opposition towards Israel and the government there.

    • Angela Horne
      • Brian Henderson

        hahahaha!

        Do you have another record to play?
        This one is getting a bit boring.

    • Eldarus

      May be you just don’t know what concentration camp really is. When you will live side by side with terrorists we shall talk, atm your words looks baseless and coming from someone who has no clue of what is really going on in the Middle East.

      • Brian Henderson

        What is the difference between herding people into a small area and bombing them or herding them into gas them? None at all, Israel has turned into its oppressor and a lot of the people of Israel are too brainwashed to see it.

        You have heard of the IRA havent you?
        I lived with there threat for 20 years of my life. Our government was bombed in a hotel by them, our airports and train stations bombed. You have heard of 7/7, the London bombings or Glasgow airport? Unlike Israel the UK government instead recognised the IRA and discussed a peace deal with them. For 10 years 2 of their soldiers were members of the UK parliament so dont lecture me on how a country should deal with terrorists as if Israel is the only country to face this type of attack, it isnt.

        In the UK we’ve lived with a terrorist threat all my life, all of it. That doesnt mean I condone the killing of thousands of Irish nationals nor wiping out the Muslim race to stop the idiots that sign up. I’d rather look at my own governments actions and what led to the point thousands of people decided they had to fight back. I marched against Iraq, Afghanistan, I protested against Israel as well.

        • Leonard Halstead

          OH so you are Irish, hmm so now we know ……IRA, NAZIS, FASCISTS, COMMUNISTS, ISLAMIST, all from the same mold. Sorry Mr Henderson but everyone knows how most Irish feel about Jews. You don’t have to lie anymore. Really it is OK to vent your most your intense hatred on the Jews as we now know who we are answering back to.

          • Brian Henderson

            Nope, I’m not Irish, I’m not catholic, I’m not protestant, I’m not a Muslim, I’m not a Hindu nor a Buddhist. I hate the Israeli governments action in Gaza, I do not, nor have I ever hated Jews.

            I was lucky enough to be born in a part of the world where the religion you are is as important as the colour of your eyes. I live in a cultural melting pot, one that embraces everyone as long as they come to work and contribute.

            If it makes the genocide sit better in your stomach to think that everyone has some sort of religious hatred agenda then carry on my bitter wee brother. You’re wrong but hey, you’ll be used to that with the blind backing you have for a government that is carrying out ethnic cleansing.

            • Leonard Halstead

              Is that why it is now being openly admitted by your British government that thousands of British Caucasian and Indian girls have been raped by Muslim gangs…and the girls are as young as 10 and 11 ? Is that your lucky country where Muslim men beheaded a young British soldier in broad daylight in the heart of London just for being a British soldier ? Israel is not doing any any ethnic cleansing which is a figment of your imagination, but they stand up and fight to defend their country. Unlike Londonistan where the largest Mosque in the world stands and many British shires are now ruled by Sharia Law and British born people aren’t able to enter at will.

            • David

              To say that Israel’s activity in Gaza is ethnic cleansing is to admit to know nothing about:

              a) this particular conflict and the history behind it
              b) warfare in general
              c) the nature of ethnic cleansing

              Also, religion has crippled Britain in many ways. The blasphemy law was only repealed about 5 years ago, we have no separation of Church and state (we have a hereditary leader of both), faith schools impede our children’s education, Muslims gets their own financial arrangements, sharia courts destroy our concept of law and our taxes pay for religious (Christian) people to have tax credits and breaks. I propose getting rid of the monarchy and having a written constitution including the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

    • Leonard Halstead

      There you go again with your ” I don’t Hate Jews” Except for what ? Just shut up lying and bring out you intense feelings…we understand …you just can’t help it.

      • Brian Henderson

        The Israeli government represents Jews as much as Hamas represents Muslims.

        I do not hate people for their religious beliefs, I hate the actions of certain governments and the brainwashed that follow them.

        I do not for a second think that the people cheering in Israel when missiles kill children are doing so because they are Jewish, they are doing it because they are brainwashed and conditioned to hate.

        If you can show me one comment I have made that suggests for a second I hate Jewish people because they are Jewish I’ll donate £1000 to any Jewish charity you choose.

        • Leonard Halstead

          Did you see that on Youtube, the Israeli cheering…Do you also prowl in that medium too heh ? Did you notice what that reporter was also saying about the cheering Jews…She was just like you another Israel hater. Who wouldn’t cheer their airforce when they get thousands of rockets falling on them indiscriminately ?.. Don’t you cheer the British army.?..I guess you don’t…Your cheering will probably go to those two Muslim men who beheaded the British soldier.

        • Leonard Halstead

          “Surrender?
          All the Jews had to do during WWII was admit they are dirty, money grabbing, disease spreading creed that didnt deserve to live” —- Brian Henderson.

          As as an afterthought you tried to take it back even admitting because you might get a lynching,. I will also take that in Bank Cheque. Thank You.

  • Shiva Devottee

    I support all sentient beings in their endeavors for safety, health and well-being. I believe that Dharma and Yoga can help both Palestinians and Israelis to become compassionate toward one another. Their animosity appears to be based upon old Abrahamic texts. Perhaps its time for them to forge a new spiritual identity together.

  • Rock Voorne

    Razi Ben Shushan:

    Palestine is not a country.

    Palestine is just a concept that failed.

    How did I come to this conclusion?
    I could only answer questions 9 and 10 of this questionnaire…

    Yashiko Sagamori, A Japanese professor of political science at the University of Tokyo,
    Passed a questionnaire to a group of Palestinian attorneys:

    “Is the world just plain stupid???
    If Palestine is a country, I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions on it:
    1. When was it founded and by whom?
    2. What were its borders?
    3. What was its capital?
    4. What were its major cities?
    5. What was its underlying economy made of?
    6. What form did its government have?
    7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
    8. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at one time or another, leaves no room for interpretation?
    9. What was the language of the State of Palestine?
    10. What was the most common religion in the State of Palestine?
    11. What was the name of its currency? Choose any date – what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian currency against the U.S. dollar, German mark, British pound, Japanese yen or Chinese yuan?
    12. Since there is no such country today, what caused its destruction and when did it happen?
    You mourn the “slow decline” of the “former proud” country.” When exactly was this “state” proud and what was it proud about?
    13. Are the people you mistakenly call “Palestinians” something other than generic Arabs gathered from everywhere or thrown out of the Arab world?
    Do they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination?
    Why haven’t thay ever tried to gain independence until the Arabs suffered a crushing defeat in the ‘Six Day’ War?

    The Arab countries have never abandoned their dream to destroy Israel. To this day, they cherish this dream in their hearts. They have repeatedly failed to achieve their devious goal by military means and decided to fight Israel – by proxy.
    For this purpose, they have created a terrorist organization, cynically called it “The Palestinian people” and placed it in Gaza, Judea and Samaria.
    How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to take back the “West Bank” and Gaza in a dignified manner and unconditionally?
    The fact is, that the Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim for nationality than that Indian tribe which successfully appeared in Connecticut with plans to open a tax free casino; At least that tribe had a constructive goal that pushed him.
    The “Palestinians” supposedly have only one motivation: to destroy Israel, and in my book, it’s not enough to be treated as a ”nation”or anything other than what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled”.

    A Japanese professor of political science, an objective, interest-free genius.
    Now let’s go back to my first three lines…

    • Brian Henderson

      I’m guessing history for you doesnt exist before 1946?

      • Rock Voorne

        Oh yeah, but does not serve your position anymore than the rest

        • Brian Henderson

          Shows you wasted 5 minutes of your life typing that garbage though.

          Well done you, like a lot of Palestinians and their homes you’ll never get those back.

    • David

      Just because Palestine never existed as a country (although they have UN recognition today) doesn’t devalue the right of Palestinians to self-determination. It is only a recent phenomenon that Palestinians want their own state but I think is a noble ambition to be supported. In any case, if a Jew living in Oregon has the right to a state in Palestine, then a Palestinian living in Palestine must have a right to the same. Anyone who doesn’t agree with this is suspect.

      • Rock Voorne

        you are suspect

      • Rock Voorne

        The UN are a disgrace. It s filled to the rafters with dubious nations that are or corrupt or Jew hating muslimcountries. You probably fight the fact that the UN way back gave Israel a country?

        • David

          Well, firstly, I think the idea of building a Jewish state on Arab land is a stupid idea to begin with. It is based on childish, messianic superstition and it guaranteed a quarrel with the Arabs. However, many nations have been found on similar (and much worse) injustices. Just ask the Native Americans about that. As for the UN, they were just finishing a promise made years before. Partition was a necessary step by 1948 for the security of people on both sides. The partition plan was designed to form an Arab state too but the Arabs rejected it.

  • Lee

    The only people that are disgusting are the Israeli government and its people.

  • GregoryC

    Anti-Semitism? Auschwitz holocaust survivor Dr Hajo Myer said, “An anti-Semite used to be a person who disliked Jews. Now it is a person who Jews dislike.” I’d add that the slur is used to silence anyone who challenges the Zionist world views or war crimes and incremental genocide of the Palestinian people.

  • Ian Armstrong

    Israel was created using religious superstition as a pretext for forcibly taking land from indigenous people I. E. Palestine. Any country that had its heart ripped out by outsiders should have the right to defend itself.
    Why did the zionists chose violence as the route to get what they wanted, and why do they continue to ignore UN article on returning occupied territory?
    The Palestinians have every right to fight to protect themselves and get redress for their lost lands. I would fight for my land and country if it was invaded.

    • Angela Horne
      • Brian Henderson

        failing to see how you constantly linking the same video then makes the killing of children playing football on the beach a valid act of war that is not seen as criminal and a war crime when looked at in the context of the Geneva Convention.

        Maybe you could clear that up for me?

        • Angela Horne

          female genital mutilation, child brides, honour killings, child soldiers/decoys too, all parts of some remarkably non-pacifist parenting, if they did not like them all they would ban them all – why not?

          were you equally outraged at the Lord’s Resistance Army, by the by?

          • Brian Henderson

            In the UK all of those are already illegal, so is murder and rape, they havent fully stopped either. Making something illegal doesnt stop it from happening, just look at Israel attacking and killing children on beaches and UN designated shelters because rocks were thrown from somewhere near by. International war crimes yet it hasnt stopped Israel from doing it, has it?

            Is your example of female genital mutilation any better or worse than circumcision? Its still chopping off a part of the genitals.
            The Jewish faith also champions polygamy, doesnt that degrade females in general?

            I’m just as outraged by Syria, Nigeria, The Ukraine… I was disgusted with my own governments handling of Northern Ireland and I marched against both the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I’m disgusted when innocent people, usually women and children, are raped and killed for no more than land or religion.

            Once again I’ll ask you, what in your youtube video justifies genocide and ethnic cleansing. Why are you championing the killing of children? Why do Israelis sit and cheer as the see missiles heading towards Gaza and what justifies killing over 2000 people in 4 weeks in retaliation for 3 teenagers and 2 other civilians?

            • Angela Horne

              Crcumscision is practised by non-Jews, one went wrong, not great, beyond this, your moral relativism does not mitigate any Muslim ritual child abuse, yet there is quite a lot you typed out, as if to change the subject. Do you like sewn-up litle girls?

              • Brian Henderson

                So you and your video have no justification for genocide I take it? I’ve asked you 3 times now, 3 and you still have not answered. Instead you hold up some parts of a religion as a reason for Israel killing children and committing a multitude of war crimes.

                You, Angela Horne are a disgrace to the human race. You are no more than a bigoted racist on a crusade to rid a region of a religion, does that sound familiar? Your reason is close to psychotic, the lack of emotional connection to the children that are dying in your name is a psychopathic trait and well documented.

                I feel sorry for you. Not as sorry as i do for the innocent women and children your blind eye is allowing the deaths of but I feel sorry for you all the same. Going through life so blind to everything around you because you are so self absorbed, filled with racist hate and fear of the unknown.

                • Angela Horne

                  am still asking – do you like sewn-up little girls? moreeover, only Islam right now this day says it is pacifist, so go on, let’s see the start of a global pacifist movement

                • Brian Henderson

                  What does that have to do with genocide and ethnic cleansing?

                  Answer the question please, I”ve asked it almost as many times as you’ve referenced that video now and I’m still waiting for an answer.

                  I take it from the lack of one you actually cant justify genocide and ethnic cleansing, can you?

                • Angela Horne

                  more fool the Muslims for continuing to engage in a losing battle

                • Brian Henderson

                  Imagine the Germans used that defense instead of showing regret.

                  Just imagine.

                  Go on

                  How would you, the bastion of all things good in regards to humanity, react?

    • Brian Henderson

      Israel was created out of British guilt for doing nothing to stop the concentration camps of WWII.

      We were in charge of the old Ottoman Empire and gave some land back to the Jews as compensation for the suffering they went through.

      Little did we know they’d take that land, take more, start wars on all fronts and turn into genocidal ethnic cleansers of the highest order.

      • Leonard Halstead

        I thought your were Irish…Sorry must have made a mistake. Well if you are British…Gosh some of you guys have that Chamberlainian propensity for dhimmitude and by what I have read so far you are right in there chum. So putting aside the Chamberlain guilt…Lets set the record straight. The British were given the Mandate by the League of Nations guided by the Balfour Declaration that there must be a development of the Jewish National Home in Palestine. Winston Churchill said the Jews must understand that this was their right and not of sufferance nor of guilt. In all the declarations and speeches concerning the Mandate not a single word was mentioned of “the Palestinians” because of the fact that there was no such people. The British mandate only speaks about the people who already lived on the land regardless if Arab, Europeans, Chinese or any other ethnic minorities and that their rights (not as another sovereign entity) must be recognized by the mandate. (which is Jewish right to Palestine). Israel has fulfilled this part of the condition proven by the 1.5 Million Arab Israelis that were descendents of Arabs that became citizens of the state of Israel when they accepted the state of Israel on its inception as an Independent state. The rest of the Arabs living in Palestine rejected Israels declaration and most left Palestine by advice from the Arab league that they will soon return after the Jews were annihilated or ejected from Palestine. Many also stayed to fight the Jews joined by other 5 Arab nations who had declared war on Israel. Tiny Israel came out the victor and those Arabs that rejected Israel occupied the left over lands that Israel didn’t capture on purpose or lost in the war as Jerusalem was to Jordan. Your erroneous statement, more like a lie… that the British gave back “some land” for compensation to the Jews for their suffering doesn’t stand up by what Churchill declared and for the fact that England had no choice in the matter as it was mandated by the League of Nations and the legally binding document was conferred on April 24, 1920 at the San
        Remo Conference, and its terms outlined in the Treaty of Sèvres on
        August 10, 1920. This and other other wordings of the Mandate means that the right of the Jews to Palestine was binding and Israel followed the condition to the letter by accepting all inhabitants of the lands including Arabs and giving them their rights by allowing them to be part of the sovereign state of Israel. Unfortunately and dastardly the British decided to smear Arab oil all over the Mandate in which they illegally split 3/4 of Mandate Palestine and handed it to the Hashemite sect of Saudi Arabia. Many of the Arabs in Palestine moved to this new country east of the Jordan river, they were still not called “Palestinians” then. Incredibly the rest of the Arabs who still rejected Israel stayed on in Palestine and with oil smeared all over the Mandate pressured England to partition more of Palestine for themselves which of course England addicted to the oil bent to their will and in the process carved up another 1/3 of Mandated Palestine for the Arabs, even though the Arabs did not deserve it by rejecting the Mandate and starting a war which they lost to Israel. This has continued to today of course which also culminated in the theft of the “Palestinian” name by Arafat, but I will leave that part of history for another time.

    • Eldarus

      “Why did the zionists chose violence” you must be ret…rded or you just don’t know even 10% of the history of the Middle East. Israel had no effective army when it was attacked ever since 1948 by 5 Arab countries.

    • Leonard Halstead

      Just shut up imbecile. Stop reading Arafat’s historic library. Get you head out of yr dark hole and read true history…Go to any public library and some real history books (NOT ISRAEL’S EITHER). Otherwise shut you retarded mouth

      • Ian Armstrong

        Maybe a return of the Ottoman empire is what’s needed. Or maybe the other religious state in the middle east Iran might become a regional super power with nuclear capability in the next 10 years and then the game for Israel will have changed completely.
        The sun may shine very brightly on Israel if it does not take steps to make peace with its neighbours before Iran becomes a nuclear power.

  • Iseult

    GET A GRIP MR MURRAY! This isn’t antisemitism, this is standing in solidarity with people who are being subjected to a thinly-veiled GENOCIDE. 75% of all fatalities have been civilians, how on earth is that a ‘specific and targeted campaign’ and how can you criticise those speaking out against it?!?! It doesn’t matter who those involved are.

    • Angela Horne

      why doesn’t Palestine just surrender?

      • Brian Henderson

        Why doesnt Israel stick to the borders set in 1946 and again in the sixties?

        Why doesnt Israel insure that it doesnt kill thousands of civilians every time it decides the rocks being thrown at it warent missiles and helicopter gunships as a response?

        Why are you defending genocide?

        Are you really this ignorant or did it take practice and dedication to the cause?

        • Angela Horne

          sources, please, not hypotheses

          • Brian Henderson

            Source for what?
            The original borders drawn up or the second set of borders. Google Israel borders, there’s your first.
            The killing of children? Just google boys killed playing football on beach
            Genocide – Check the UN website.
            Ignorance – read your own comments.

            For the 18th time, answer the questions instead of posting an Israeli propaganda video.

            • Angela Horne

              am still asking for sources, please, not a load of typing

        • Leonard Halstead

          You are a sick man Brian Henderson . You need to be admitted to a mental hospital

    • Leonard Halstead

      There is no such thing as 75% civilian fatalities. It was all made up by Hamas. I would say 5% was by IDF error.. 20% by Hamas using the Fakestinians as human shields and the rest 75% were killed Hamas terrorists. What did Hamas tell the Fakestinians including all the organizations in Gaza, Medical, UNRWA etc…”Report every fatality as civilian deaths”

  • Jimjamz

    This is awful pro Israel propaganda. I was there. I’m Scottish and white. I met two beautiful Arab girls wearing skirts and tank tops. Douglas Murray – Scotland called and wants its names back.

  • Sarah Davis

    if there was any truth in this article, then how come this
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/not-in-our-namejews-stage-massive-anti-war-protests-in-tel-aviv-new-york-and-elsewhere/5393512

    are these jews anti-semitic ?

    • Augustus

      These protesters were even to the left of the prominent left-wing Israeli party Meretz, as well as the Peace Now organization, which had both opted not to take part in the rally btw. It’s not difficult to gather a few hundred extreme left-wing ‘not in our name’ people, like sheep, in a democratic nation such as Israel. The article, however, is not just about protests, it’s about a pro-Palestine rally in London which was ‘a disgusting anti-Semitic spectacle’. Address that point.

      • Tigger

        So the ‘real’ Israelis are the ones who gathered together today to chant “There’s no more school in Gaza – because all the children are dead” – as shown tonight on Channel 4 news.
        How charming.

        • Angela Horne

          female genital mutilation, child brides, honor killings, child soldiers are just parts of some remarkably non-pacifist parenting

    • Angela Horne
  • timinsingapore

    Douglas, if you were anti-Hitler, does that mean you were anti-German? Israel purports to hold itself to higher standards than the loony terrorists on the Palestinian side. Not much sign of that at the moment. Israel is currently run by right-wing zealots whose capacity for alienating world opinion is simply astounding. The current Israeli government should be put in the dock. Next to Hamas, who should also be put in the dock.

  • Mark

    support humanity, stand with israel!

  • The_greyhound

    Douglas Murray rather elegantly vitiates the efforts of thousands of tea-cloth wearing nutters and their lying Guardian-reading bigoted allies.

    No wonder they’re cross with him.

  • Ross Tredwyn

    I am sure it is true that a two-state solution is no longer possible in Palestine. The Israelis could have imposed it had they wished but they preferred to appropriate more and more land, making an Arab-Palestinian state impossible. They have therefore created an old-South-Africa style situation where their Arab neighbours are locked into Bantustans whose borders the Israelis control and where normal economic life is impossible. The Palestinian Arabs in the Bantustans have no civil rights in Israel -no vote, no freedom of movement – so a form of pure Apartheid has been reproduced. Any resistance is met with pitiless collective punishment and Sharpeville pales beside the ferocity of the Israeli reactions in Gaza and on the West Bank. Israel is turning itself into the successor to the old South Africa as the moral polecat of the world. The Israelis seem to have learned the wrong lesson from the tragic history of European jewry. The poet Auden summed it up:
    ” I and the public know
    What all schoolchildren learn,
    Those to whom evil is done
    Do evil in return.”

  • Malone

    zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.

  • Malone

    Zionism is racism

    • Augustus

      It’s not racist to demand the right to live in your homeland in safety, and attack the enemy who won’t let you. It’s not racist to kill that enemy before it kills you. An enemy that sanctifies death while its life is filled with racist hate and murder against all Jews.

      • Angela Horne

        there is no letter P in the Arabic alaphabet

      • Brian Henderson

        Israel today is no more the Jewish homeland than America belongs to the Navajo, Apache and Sioux. I’m sure there’s no way Israelis would tell their American guardians that they should return their lands to the native Americans, is there?

        Palestinians were forcibly removed by the British and some of the land was gifted to the Jews. Instead of being grateful for this gift they have taken it and turned it into something of a disgrace.

        Well done

    • RoxanneRoxanadana

      Well, Anti-Zionism has its flaws, you know. Here’s a good example.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R8GjyvAVr8

      I really dislike beheading. Also, shouting “God is Great” while chopping someone’s head off is not to my taste. How about you?

  • timarete

    One correction: Arabs (Palestinians included) and Jews are BOTH Semites. I am fed up with this mistake I keep seeing in the “well informed media”. Has no-one ever bothered to read up on what the word “Semite” mean? Lazy journalism.

    • RoxanneRoxanadana

      They should use Jew baiter instead. I agree. Another term would be “Militant Anti-ZIonist”, which would include things like this:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJy6KGyIAkM

      • Jim

        Isn’t that cute? According to Roxanne, now no one can condemn Israel without being a “Jew baiter”. How incredibly convenient. Don’t you think the world has caught on to the scam? Everyone is TIRED of having to pay for what GERMANY did. It’s time for Israel to live by INTERNATIONAL standards. Stop the genocide!

        • RoxanneRoxanadana

          Oh, but that’s not true. What is true is that you can find fault with Anti-Zionism as well as Zionism, something you do not believe. Since you used the term “chosen people” with sarcasm, the implication is that you want us chosen for gas chambers until proven otherwise. Of course, you believe you were chosen from the beginning of the universe for your position in heaven, one of the elect, one gathers!

          • Jim

            I swore I wouldn’t engage today but I made the mistake of looking at your message. Last time.

            I will stand against anybody who GENUINELY and INALTERABLY opposes Israel’s existence or who GENUINELY and INALTERABLY threatens to destroy it. I’m not talking about foolish political rhetoric or statements made in rage or grief. If they REALLY want to destroy Israel, I completely oppose them. Israel must be protected. Israel must exist.
            Why can’t Israel do the same for Palestine? Israel has done everything possible to obstruct the OTHER PART of the 1946 UN declaration — the part that called for creation of Palestine. And I’m not talking about a Palestine on ISRAEL’s terms, I’m talking about a Palestine on the UN’s terms — no extra Israeli rules, no extra Israeli preconditions, no Israeli-drawn map. A Palestine the way the UN wrote it up when it wrote up Israel.
            The amount of grief that would save the world is incalculable. Why is it so difficult?

            • RoxanneRoxanadana

              It’s just you use that “chosen people” term with sarcasm, which almost always indicates a desire to execute every Jew on the planet. Also, you really did get upset there when I denigrated General Stonewall Jackson. So what can I conclude? You want Israel to exist so you can gather the Jews together there & drop a nuclear bomb on them. That way you can go back to raping your slaves.

              From my perspective, there can be a Palestinian State. No problem with the West Bank & Gaza being one at all. What there cannot be is my execution simply because my parents are Jewish. I realize that offends you to the core, but that’s the way it goes.

            • RoxanneRoxanadana

              By the way, I absolutely adore the UK as an American. Oliver Cromwell is one of my favorites. His work resulted in William & Mary’s accepting the bill of rights, which led to our bill of rights. Our fundamental freedoms are due to his majestic efforts.

    • Augustus

      The same principle applies to the kapos in the Holocaust death camps too. These trustee traitors were brutal to their fellow Jews in order to gain privileges by carrying out the will of their captors. Very much like Jews in the West appease Israel’s enemies today by supporting them.

  • Jon Newman

    Quit shilling for Israel

    • TNT

      Quit shilling for Islamic supremacy. No one cares any more. No one buys ‘Palestinian plight’ any more.

      • mollysdad

        Precisely. Let the Palestinian savages change their religion or piss off and find another country to live in.

      • Jim

        Tens of thousands of people at protests all over the world — even in Israel — say you’re very very wrong about who cares about “Palestinian plight”. Increasingly, the world is fed up with Israeli self-righteousness.

        • Angela Horne
        • David

          If they cared about Palestinian plight they would protest against Hamas’ human rights abuses and the slaughter of 2,500 Palestinians in Syria. Such a protest isn’t forthcoming.

          • Jim

            I don’t know if you saw the network news tonight, David, but Israel is bombing the living c_ap out of Gaza. Not a whole lot of time for protests between explosions. Gaza and the West Bank have their own problems at the moment, thank you.

            Whatever few friends Israel had left are headed for the exits tonight. Thanks to the IDF, hundreds of millions tonight saw genocide being committed live in their living rooms.

            It’s not about a cease fire, David. IT’S ABOUT NATIONHOOD. I doubt that Israel will get it before it’s too late. Good luck with Iran.

            • David

              Firstly, I meant protests around the world, not in Gaza. Peaceful protesting against Hamas is illegal in Gaza. Secondly, Israel is going out of its way to avoid civilian deaths so that isn’t genocide, is it?

    • Augustus

      Stop siding with Hamas and Islamic Jihad leaders who bear the responsibility for the deaths of over a 1,000 of their citizens. Anyway, why do you care so much for Muslims? After all, Muslims blow up each on a regular basis all over the Middle East.

  • hanshall

    How can you seriously claim that every one of the tens of thousands of people who marched in protest of Israel’s attack on Palestine in London and many thousands more who marched around the country are ‘anti Semites’?
    This tired tactic of naming those who support justice for Palestine as anti Semites doesn’t work any more.

    • RoxanneRoxanadana

      Well, it may not be all of them, but as a whole they want the world cleansed of Jews. Not all of them like murder, but most appear to do so,

      • Tigger

        Let us remove both Jews and Arabs from the situation. Let’s just say a group of financially-backed people invaded another country and took over a huge amount of that country for themselves. (Let’s call these people Germits, and their new country Germitty.)

        The Germeis arrived, initially in dribs and drabs, buying small parcels of land. They worked separately from the people of that country (let’s call it Anglehand) and in spite of their non-integration the Anglish people had no problem with them at all.

        Then, quite suddenly and without warning, a huge group of Germits arrived in that country and took by force the houses of the Anglish.
        You are Anglish: are you happy that your house has been stolen? Are you going to give away your heritage without a struggle?

        But, for some strange reason, the whole world is with the Germits on this. They don’t give a damn about you and your little house and those of your neighbours.
        You have three choices – start from scratch allover again, leave your home and homeland behind, or fight.
        What would you do in the circumstances?

        So –
        you’re a peaceful person. You take the first choice and start again.
        Only to have your home and land seized yet again.
        You become an outcast in your own land. Huge parts of it are walled off and you can’t even visit your father’s grave without permission.
        Soon, you can’t even find you father’s grave because some Germit has built a house on it.

        You howl for justice. You even agree to give much of the land to the Germits if they will just give you back your SECOND house – and the land around your father’s grave.
        They laugh at you.

        THEN – and only then – do you become a freedom fighter …

        • Jim

          Don’t forget the UN, which mandated the creation of an Anglish homeland and has condemned the Germits’ behavior more times than anybody can count. But the Germits, being God’s Chosen People and utterly self-righteous, carry on. That is, until one day the Persits smite them into glass.

          • RoxanneRoxanadana

            Actually, Presbyterians like Stonewall Jackson had a nice view of the planet.

        • RoxanneRoxanadana

          Instead of a difficult to understand analogy that confuses me, let’s quote Mr Verwoerd of South Africa:
          The Afrikaner volk began to realise with ever greater clarity that the Jewish community in particular, had a tight grip on the business concerns which offered the best chance for financial advancement, and that their sons and daughters could only attain subordinate positions in them.
          This population group, which still keeps itself seperate and apart within the population, and which is indifferent or even hostile to the national aspirations of Afrikanerdom, is thus regarded as the group which also stands in the way of the Afrikaner’s economic prosperity.
          Recently there has been an even greater divergence between the material interests of Afrikaners and Jews. The younger generation of Jews is penetrating the professional occupations (e.g. doctors and lawyers) to an ever greater extent.
          As long as Jews hold such great share of commerce and industry, becoming one of the most prosperous sections of the population (as a group), they are also able to largely annex some of the professions for their compatriots.
          For example, the increase in the number of Jewish attorneys and advocates is largely the result of their compatriots’ controlling the business concerns that pass on most of a lawyer’s day to day work.
          In other words, because this minority group has gained a dominant position in commerce and industry, it is not only able to make it enormously difficult for Afrikaners to gain access thereto, but it is also able to capture other professions in which Afrikaners had already established themselves.
          Is it any wonder then that Afrikaners are beginning to feel that Jews have a choke hold on their continued existence?

          http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71639/page71639?oid=87773&sn=Detail&pid=71639

          The major problem was Jewish immigration into South Africa, you see? Just like with Palestine. South Africa went & ahead & banned Jewish emigration entirely. I guess I would say that the situations are similar in that way.

          • Tigger

            What’s ‘difficult to understand’ about it?

            • RoxanneRoxanadana

              Because all it says is that Jews & their money are dangers to the planet, the solution of which is the gas chambers. The use of coded language gets me fairly angry, such that I have to think of a more benign way of putting matters.

              • Tigger

                Good grief, Roxanne! What I wrote had – and has – nothing to do with “Jews & their money (being) dangers to the planet, the solution of which is the gas chambers.”
                if you read THAT into what I wrote, you’re paranoid indeed!
                Either that, or you, in your subconscious, believe that Jews are indeed a danger to the planet. *I* certainly don’t.

                • RoxanneRoxanadana

                  “financially-backed people”
                  No one uses that term except when speaking of Jews.
                  “non-integration”
                  Every other Jew baiter talks about Jews being a separate people, refusing to integrate (when they do integrate, they become secret Jews, of course). This is but seldom applied to anyone else in a pejorative fashion.

                  .

                  If you can’t see that, then that’s your problem.

                • Tigger

                  “financially-backed people” – No one uses that term except when speaking of Jews.
                  Eh? Businesses are financially-backed, are they not? So are artists. So are pressure-groups, etc. etc. etc. I don’t believe all these are Jewish. Do you?

                  “non-integration” … seldom applied to anyone else in a pejorative fashion’.
                  Is that so? AFAIK It can be applied to the Amish, the JoHos, etc. etc. etc. In fact, the Jews I know DO integrate. In the case of Israel the greater majority did not and do not.

                  Either you’re paranoid or you’re just trying too hard to defend the indefensible.

                • RoxanneRoxanadana

                  No one says the Amish pose a threat to any country by virtue of failing
                  to integrate. Moreover, no one says that they are moneyed. Only racist depicted Jews fit the features of the group you condemn.

                  Show me an example where someone references other than Jews in which there is 1) the entry of a moneyed group of people 2) who will not integrate 3) who move in gradually & 4) who then destroy the host country. Only Jews are given that designation. Moreover, a parable is supposed to be a generalization. Hence, the only thing being generalized is the danger of Jews to countries in general.

                  “I have a lot of Jewish friends” is equivalent to “some of my best friends are Black.”.

                • Tigger

                  “Show me an example where someone references other than Jews in which there is 1) the entry of a moneyed group of people 2) who will not integrate 3) who move in gradually & 4) who then destroy the host country. Only Jews are given that designation.”

                  Ah – I see you understand – and admit it – at last!

                • RoxanneRoxanadana

                  I do indeed admit that those who want Jews dead use formulations as you have provisioned. I just do not want to die because you think people with Jewish parents should not be permitted to breathe. As the desire for blood of people like me waxes in Europe, so the love of life by people like me increases.

                • Tigger

                  *I* think people with Jewish parents should not be permitted to breathe.?

                  You have just insulted me beyond measure!!!!
                  In fact, I don’t think I have ever been so insulted in my life. You don’t know me. You don’t know the first thing about me. You don’t know any of my friends. And, Ha-bloody-Ha – you don’t even know MY parents. Yet you presume to tell me I want you dead.

                  Well, you have (almost ) succeeded. I’m certainly close to it after that insult. Deep breath; in fact, several deep breaths. Then I just have to tell myself that there are indeed idiots in this world and they’re not worth all the angst.
                  So – go and put your head in a bucket of cold water – but pull it out again once you’ve recovered your wits. (Or before then, if that’s not possible)

                • Guest

                  “… you think people with Jewish parents should not be permitted to breathe.”

                  Roxanne – I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO INSULTED IN MY LIFE.
                  You know NOTHING about me, or MY parents for that matter. yet you DARE to presume that I want you (and your relatives – and mine!) dead.
                  I am as angry as I have a right to be. But I still don’t wish you dead. I just wish you had even half a brain.
                  Get real, girl!
                  An apology wouldn’t go amiss, either! Or do you enjoy showing yourself to all and sundry as a nasty, ignorant little cow?

                • RoxanneRoxanadana

                  Guest, the import of that Tigger parable cannot be ignored – the grave danger Jews pose to countries everywhere. His or her statement confirms the exact point, that Tigger believes the plague of the planet is the presence of Jews. If a country allows a few of these persons in, why national disaster threatens. Neither is this a new theory. From Mein Kampf:

                  “It is not a collection of economic contracting parties in a definite delimited living space for the fulfillment of economic tasks, but the organization of a community of physically and psychologically similar living beings for the better facilitation of the maintenance of their species and the achievement of the aim which has been allotted to this species by Providence This and nothing else is the aim and meaning of a state. Economics is only one of the many instruments required for the achievement of this aim. It is never the cause or the aim of a state unless this state is based on a false, because unnatural, foundation to begin with. Only in this way can it be explained that the state as such does not necessarily presuppose territorial limitation. This will be necessary only among the peoples who want to secure the maintenance of their national comrades by their own resources; in other words, are prepared to fight the struggle for existence by their own labor. Peoples who can sneak their way into the rest of mankind like drones, to make other men work for them under all sorts of pretexts, can form states even without any definitely delimited living space of their own. This applies first and foremost to a people under whose parasitism the whole of honest humanity is suffering, today more than ever: the Jews.”

                  Tigger likely does not recognize himself or herself in these words, which he or she has likely never read, but the spiriit is there even if the knowledge is limited. In any case, breathing is quite pleasant to me, Tigger’s views notwithstanding.

                • Tigger

                  Roxanne – I don’t know how I got registered as ‘guest’ (below) – but the reply was from me.
                  I do not and have NEVER been anti-Jewish. I am implaccably anti-zionist. If you can’t see the distinction then you’re just a lame-brained idiot.
                  Many Jews these days – including many in Israel itself – are now anti-zionists. They do not approve of genocide either. YOU are just a miserable, pathetic excuse for a human being.

                • RoxanneRoxanadana

                  Well, you sound like you want all Jews gone. Not to worry, if this fellow on the Anti-Zionist side has his way, you won’t be seeing many Jews in Britain.

                  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-isis-fighter-al-britani-threatens-3819631

                  That’s a promise.

                • Tigger

                  He’s a nutter. But then, that’s the ‘Mirror’ for you. I’m quite sure no-one else would give him as much as a column inch.

                  BTW – I don’t see people as ‘Jews’ or ‘non-Jews’. I judge people on their ACTIONS. And yes, I’m anti-zionist to the core. Just as I’m anti-facist, anti-nazi, etc. etc. etc.

        • RoxanneRoxanadana

          Since you asking “what would an Anglehand do?” & directing it at me, this is what I would do. If things in the US became intolerable for me, I would emigrate to another country as soon as possible. Many Jews are doing just that in France, right now. Don’t you think that the wisest path in general?

          • Tigger

            Some people did run away, Roxanne. They became stateless. I know several such. They mourn for their homeland. Because they actually KNEW the soil they stood on and had to leave behind.

            • RoxanneRoxanadana

              My grandparents became stateless around WWI & before in the nineteenth century. Pogroms & the like. Hatred of Muslims for Jews, etc., etc. So they emigrated to the US, where we have stayed since. Believe it or not, I have no interest in going to Poland, Ukraine, Syria, or Egypt. None. Not a bit. No mourning from me at all. I cannot conceive how one could want to go back there; in fact, the mere thought of visiting those places, where they want me dead, gives me chills. The trouble is, many in that region cannot conceive of Jews being alive on the planet. Can’t say I blame them, given that they really love slavery & hated the British for banning it. Sure did too. Yep. If I wanted slaves to do everything, I’d want all the Jews gone too.

        • Angela Horne
          • Tigger

            Thanks for that, Angela. It made very interesting watching. I took down the names of the so-called ‘Israel supporters’ and used my ‘google’ finger to great effect. Here’s a few of my findings to date:

            CEYLAN OZBUDAK – a PACIFIST, on NEITHER side – twitter posting 23 July – “according to Quran if the other party offers ceasefire Muslims are obliged to accept ceasefire. As Muslims we need to encourage ceasefire”

            ISHMAIL KHALDI – working through political means to improve the lot of the Bedouin people in Israel (the ‘if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em tactic’)

            HASAN AZFAL – headed up British Muslims for Israel. An organisation which apparently closed almost as soon as it opened. Not enough members to support it?
            About the current situation – He hasn’t made a single public comment either way.

            IRSHAD MANJI – openly-gay author of a book called ‘The
            Trouble with Islam’ . Wants women to be aware of their rights within Islam. (fair enough) but shows herself to be politically and historically ignorant and/or naïve in the extreme. She feels ‘heartache’, though, ‘at the Israeli “government’s consistent refusal to arrest the criminals who erect illegal settlements”
            She recently re-tweeted an article containing this: “Peaceful, unarmed demonstrators in Israel’s two most liberal cities were physically attacked by ultra-nationalists wielding stones and bottles. In Haifa, nationalist thugs assaulted the Arab deputy mayor, slamming the middle-aged man down on the pavement. In Tel Aviv, they chased anti-war protestors into a cafe and smashed a chair over the head of one of them, even as municipal sirens wailed to announce an incoming rocket from Gaza. The police were ineffective in stopping the violence.”
            So maybe not such a ‘supporter’ these days?

            KASIM KAZ HAFEEZ: – working in Canada; belongs to ‘United with Israel’ – “A Muslim Extremist Turned Lover of Israel, Jews, Gays, and Everyone Really” – so., from one extreme to another.
            He sounds very unbalanced, and just as likely to tip the other way. I’d be afraid of him.- wouldn’t you?

            Would you like me to keep going? It seems you’re losing supporters rapidly ,,.

            • Angela Horne

              that load of typing, those claims typed out, prove nothing, you are wasting time

              • Tigger

                None so blind as those who will not see, Angela.
                I specialise in bursting the bubbles of those who think they know it all. Because I deal in TRUTH, however unpalatable.

    • TNT

      5000. 4997 Pakistanis, and three ginger-haired white converts from Wolverhampton.

    • David

      Because they never protest any actual genocide or mass killing in the Middle East. On the third day of this conflict Hamas announced on TV that every Israeli is a legitimate target (including any innocent citizen). Meanwhile Israel goes out of its way to avoid civilian deaths by firing warning shots, advising Gazans to flee their homes for safety, aborting dozens of strikes to avoid killing the innocent, yet it is Israel that gets criticized in the West for targeting innocent people. Personally, I think these people are just uninformed and ignorant. Most people are as you can tell from their lack of knowledge in general research polls. People get themselves worked up and take the safe bet of pretending to care about innocent children getting killed. Also, most people take refuge in consensus and don’t like to hold a different opinion. And unfortunately people just read the news headline ‘Children killed by IDF’ and automatically assume that means Israel is a terrorist state without reading further. Some people don’t even read the news, they just hear from their parents that Israel is evil. It really is that pathetic.

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  • Guest

    Hamas’ strategy is to drag Israel into Gaza so that dead Palestinian children are photographed by the media and then the world slowly turns against Israel.

    The whole world is quick to condemn Israel for civilian deaths in Gaza, but there is utter silence over Hamas’s blatant disregard for the lives of its own citizens.

    When Hamas use schools to teach hatred and use places of worship to hide and store weapons, it is impossible to keep civilians safe.

  • emma

    It is not anti-semitic to oppose what israel are doing. There are many Jews taking part in these protests, who are also against what israel is doing to Gaza. I suppose they are anti-semitic too? A poorly written piece by a bias, ill educated fool.

    • Angela Horne

      what would you like im to say instead? just to clarify, cheers

    • The_greyhound

      Your own problems with grammar make your accusation of ill education especially amusing.

      • emma

        Lol brilliant argument there.

  • AndyPlatt

    Anybody still pretending that Hamas killed the three Israeli settlers? Kinda blows the paid-up Zionists claims of Palestinian provocation really doesn’t it?

    • TimboX

      LOL! Not at all jew hater. Hamas *started* this conflict by digging tunnels and sending rockets to murder innocent Israelis. Israel will *end* it.

      Every time a Hamas terrorist dies I cheer. It makes me so happy to think that the terrorists are dying in such huge numbers. I’m so glad their blood is painting the streets of Gaza.

      Why don’t fly over and volunteer to be a human shield, fool.

      • AndyPlatt

        Well, you’re clearly a psychopath so your inane fantasies have little relevance to those of us on planet earth. Try staying away from the solvents for a while.

        • TimboX

          When a terrorist throws a grenade into a kindergarten.
          Yes I am glad when he is dead.

          When a terrorist blows up a school bus.
          Yes I am glad when he is dead.

          I think you are the psychopath, you are a moral relativist, who excuses the atrocities of terrorists. You protect the people who commit the crimes and blame the innocent children for their own deaths.

          • Angela Horne

            female genital mutilation, child brides, honor killings, child soldiers/decoys are all just parts if the same remarkably non-pacifist parenting, if they did not like them all, they would ban them all – why not? srsly

      • Tigger

        I suppose you would class all those Jews who oppose the politics and actions of Israel as ‘Jew haters’ too.
        But at the rate their numbers are rising, soon the only ‘Jew lovers’ will be the Israelis themselves. (Oh, and America, of course.)

        • RoxanneRoxanadana

          No. Some of them, such as Natura Karta, are certainly followers of a homicidal rabbi, but that’s not so.

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  • Sarah Davis

    A laughably biased (or inept and uninformed) article !
    It’s as if you don’t know whats going on so you make it up !

    • TNT

      P*ss off back to The Guardian with your anaemia, then.

      • Sarah Davis

        what an insightful and intelligent reply NOT !
        are all your opinions fact-less assumptions ?
        (I don’t read the guardian)

        • TNT

          I doubt you read much at all, yes.

          I also suspect you’re a single-issue ‘protester’, so I’ll leave you to your unwashed bigotry.

          • Sarah Davis

            more fact-less assumptions, or poor attempts at pointless baseless insults,.. (that kind of define’s bigotry by the way).

            if you have nothing else intelligent to say then by all means reply again (and look up rhetorical)

            • TNT

              What would you know about facts, you dumb, dumb bint? All you know is your one single cause based on a foundation of soundbites and sloganed loom-bands. You are pathetic. Rest assured that your attempts to silence anyone who disagrees with your savage and irrational view of the world will only make that jaundice of yours worse.

    • Angela Horne

      what do you want it to say?

    • TimboX

      Why don’t you put an informed argument together as to why it is so ‘laughably biased’ Just saying something doesn’t make it true.

  • DNACowboy

    This is what you get when you allow certain ethnicities with religious hair-triggers into your country, I say if you cannot behave with common courtesy and decency then you don’t belong in the UK and it is way past time you leave.

  • Wiggy Bell

    Maybe the people that are commenting on here should go back to the beginning. Israel is the birth of terrorism and started it first in 1948. They have pushed and shoved , taken over Arab land and recent years built a cement wall ,cut of food ,water and medical supplies..
    Arabs owed 96% of Palestine at one time , United Nations gave away 56% . This would never happen In USA and why should it have ever happen anywhere else. It is and will always be the root of the problem.
    I son’t consider myself ant-Semitic, as they’re people that practice true Judism and then there are Zionist.

    • lookout

      Back to the beginning? I won’t go back all the way just 3000 years, Psalm 105 verse 11, Saying ” To you I will give the land of Canaan as the allotment of your inheritance” this was to Abraham and Jacob.

      • Tigger

        “Give” ? Duh! I have actually read the Bible, as opposed to hearing at second-hand the stories we tell our children.
        If ‘the Land of Canaan’ was to be given to the Jewish people then it certainly WASN’T the land they settled in – either 3000 years ago or now.
        Because the way that land was gained was through a series of wars with the original inhabitants. And the history was – these tribes made alliances with the local people to fight nearby settlements then, once they’d won, turned on their allies and killed THEM.
        Sound familiar, anyone?

        • lookout

          Try watching L A Marzulli to get a understanding of the true situation, General Allanby, who captured Jerusalem from the Ottermans, notice no Palestinians

          • Tigger

            I notice you’re avoiding the question …

      • Jim

        How about something a little more recent and credible? November 29, 1947: UN Resolution 181: Recommending partition of the British Mandate for Palestine into Arab and Jewish states, and the City of Jerusalem.

        • lookout

          The Balfour declaration, Israel from the med to the Euphrates, from the Negev to the Lebanon, agreement amended due to anti-semitism and oil company pressure after W W 1, The Secret War Against The Jews by John Loftus and Mark Arron

    • Angela Horne

      sources, please
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    • David

      This comment is so inept it is incredible. Firstly there have been any number of terrorists before 1948, particularly Islamic ones (see Barbary Wars in the 1800s). Jews have lived in that area for centuries as have Palestinians. Dozens of groups have claimed ownership of the land since before Islam and ownership changed between Muslim sects during many wars throughout the Ottoman empire. Should the Muslims give the land back to the Romans or Byzantines? Many countries are founded on similar injustices, including the USA. Would Native Americans be justified in demanding the annihilation of all white Americans? Finally, there is a solution that everybody wants including the majority of Palestinians and their representative politicians in the Palestinian Authority, Israel, the UN, the EU and the US. It is a two-state solution. The only groups that don’t want it are the few lunatic messianic settler groups and Islamic terrorists like Hamas. Grow up and read a book.

      • Jim

        What about the thousands of settlements in half of the other “state”? What shall we do with them?

        • David

          Well I would suggest after destroying Hamas, any peace plan would have to involve a state for each people and a fully implemented disengagement plan. The IDF will have to remove settlers from their homes in the illegal settlements even if by force (as they did in 2005). But no negotiation with Hamas can or should be considered.

          • Jim

            Fair enough. Huge political price in Israel, which I sincerely respect. And it has to actually HAPPEN. The “peace process” has been delaying things for 20 years. Both sides have to jump in with good faith and flexibility, and not get hung up on trivia.

            • David

              Well they’ve done it twice before and yielded to peace. I have been reading Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International closely since the start of the conflict and Israel is going to struggle to escape this conflict without committing a humanitarian war crime. But that is the case for most conflicts, including in the West (remember Abu Graib?). Why Israel is using those little darts fired from tanks by the thousand in urban areas I don’t know. That doesn’t seem to be taking all necessary measures to avoid civilian casualties. But are we even going to hold Hamas by the same standards? A Hamas spokesman (Sami Abu Zuhri) went on TV today gleefully taking pride in using civilians as human shields and encouraged Gazans to continue to do this. Can you imagine what would have happened if Benjamin Netanyahu had told Israelis to do this?

              • Jim

                If it turns out that the Palestinians (or anybody else) are sincerely and inalterably committed to the destruction of Israel, I will have nothing to do with them. I’m trying my best to attribute such statements to rage, exhaustion, grief, and indignity. Only with the passage of time will we know the truth.

              • Jim

                David, that’s what guerillas do. When things are asymmetrical, you do whatever you have to do. It’s not right, but it’s real. Israel did it in 1946. America did it in 1776. Bragging about it is asinine, and no, I can’t imagine Bibi being so foolish.

                If it turns out that the Palestinians are genuinely and unalterable committed to the destruction of Israel, then I wash my hands of them. For now, I’m trying to attribute such ridiculous statements to rage, grief, exhaustion, and humiliation. We’ll know the truth in the fullness of time.

                • David

                  It makes me laugh that Hamas go on TV all the time with these statements and nobody in this country bothers to find out. Three days after the conflict began they made a statement that all Israelis were considered legitimate targets. And people in this country can only find time to criticize Israel?

                  The statement is on the Hamas charter in black and white and has been since they were formed so Hamas would appear committed to the annihilation of Israel. Why anybody in this country would think Israel should negotiate this point seems masochistic. Palestinians apparently elected Hamas so I’d imagine there is support for it out there, although it is likely they didn’t have much choice in the matter.

                  Let’s also not forget Israel has had threats from Hezbollah and Iran as well to kill innocent Jews. Anyone in the West even mention this?

                • Jim

                  At least consider the possibility of hyperbole and/or pre-negotiation posturing. Arabic speech is strongly oriented toward overstatement (remember “Mother of all Battles”?) and really shouldn’t be taken literally by non-Arabic speakers. I realize that’s a pretty slender thread, but it’s all I’ve got. If they’re speaking literally — and at the moment I’m not convinced that they are — their cause is finished in the West. No responsible Western society will countenance the destruction of Israel.

                • David

                  They are intent (as Islam is when it finds power) to destroy all infidels and dissidents. I wouldn’t be so confident that the West won’t allow Israel to be annihilated. The US was perfectly happy to see Muslims from Indonesia march into East Timor and kill half the population. The UN, UK, Japan and Australia watched it happen too. The US even sold them the weapons to do it.

                • Jim

                  What you’re saying is we’re all doomed unless Islam is destroyed. I can’t imagine the catastrophe that would involve. I know so many Muslims who just want to raise their families and don’t want to kill anybody. You may be right, but let’s at least try to keep an open mind.

                • David

                  Not really, but Islam does have to have a civil war of some kind where the moderates redefine it. It will have to at least learn to be compatible with freedom of expression. Muslims need to ask themselves whether they really believe the texts or not. You can’t even get moderates to speak out about Islam war crimes like honour killing etc, especially in our country. The real problem I guess is it doesn’t have a central authority like other religions so is always going to keep the status quo.

                • Angela Horne

                  getting on fine, yup, if you think there is good and bad in all of us, beware… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prA3W1tk2I&feature=share

                • TimboX

                  Well it does state in Hamas’ charter that they want to murder all the Jews? What more is there to say about them?

    • RoxanneRoxanadana

      Who threw the first blow in the 1948 war?

    • TimboX

      You are so incredibly ignorant about Israel and the Middle East. It’s quite an accomplishment. But it’s nothing to be proud of. Perhaps you should try and read some books about the history of the region first before commenting?

  • Andy Irving

    Sir, this is completely uncalled for. The demonstrations you see are humanity’s finest example of secular humanism. This is nothing to do with language. To point you in the right direction Semitic refers to people who speak a Semitic language. Arabic is a Semitic language so please correct your facts before spouting gibberish. I am not anti-semitic. I love the diversity of humanity and respect and adhere to the human rights declaration. Particularly article 18. http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
    What you see unfolding is a protest against oppression by the awake who are in touch with humanity.

    • David

      So again, why are these people silent on every other issue? Why are they not protesting all the human rights abuses by Hamas? Palestinians suffer much more under Hamas than Israel. Who in this country ever protested the murder and incarceration of journalists in Palestine who speak against the regime? What about the women being used as human shields and the children being forced to be suicide bombers? Why are these not issues of humanity that we should protest?

    • Jacky Treehorn

      So when we can expect you to organise a demonstration against Boko harem,the carnage in Syria the indiscriminate rocketing of civilians in Israel and those charming cannibals ISIS, as you are so in touch with humanity.

      • Andy Irving

        I am fully aware of the Zionist agenda that has been plaguing the Palestinian people for over a century. The so called elite families that have manipulated our society for their own agenda are now weakening the middle east with isis, formerly muslim brotherhood, formerly al-qaeda.formerly cia. The agenda is quite clear if you start looking into the bigger picture. http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815 I’d also recommend watching this film. http://crisisofcivilization.com/ Obviously these are my personal opinions based on personal investigation but I have that right under article 19. Is it a coincidence that two major supporters of the Palestinian people Malaysia and Algeria have lost aircraft in the last week?

        • Angela Horne

          terribly sorry, but two blogs of typing and maps prove nothing, no substantiation, but here on film, is a member of the Muslim Sorority, on film, a UK MP announcing the Sorority’s intentions of a takeover of the UK with further plans for the UK to spend millions on Muslim countries who have a breeding program that they can not evidently support…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prA3W1tk2I&feature=share

        • RoxanneRoxanadana

          Are you aware of the Grand Mufti Al Husseini?

          • Soulshoes

            Are you aware of Hitler? Do we hold all Germans accountable for the action of one man?

        • Jacky Treehorn

          So no answer to my question about supporting humanity when it’s just muslims killing then only when it’s joos.
          And so the truth comes out, you are a conspiracy freak, classic.

          • Soulshoes

            It is not Jew’s, I have a lot of friends who are Jewish. It is the Khazars who hijacked the Jewish faith who are now the Zionists.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_rothschild_bloodline.htm
            I think you’ll find it is not me who is the conspiracy freak but the elite who never fail to fill the world with fear. I’ve never conspired to commit a crime in my life. Or did you mean “conspiracy theory freak”? If that is the case then yes. I love investigating conspiracies. It is those of us who are awake that observe and think who are labelled with this. Or do you expect those labelled with this to lie down with the other sheeple and close their eyes?

            • Damaris Tighe

              The Khazar theory has been utterly disproved by modern DNA research. Over 50% of Jews of European origin share a middle-eastern gene pool with the Palestinians. Those with DNA that MIGHT be Khazar are a very tiny group of Hungarian origin.

      • Soulshoes

        I think we need to do some unlearning to learn the truth. These people hijacked the Jewish faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

    • Angela Horne

      I used to believe in the UN, but here is Israel’s side of the story, if you will…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdMuIyo72RA&index=14&list=PLDWZZEI7ILwl_gBJFeb5TGHAutRoHhuKq

    • TimboX

      If you can’t admit that there is anything called anti-Semitism, that it doesn’t exist, then yes, you are an anti-Semite. BIG TIME anti-Semite.

      • Soulshoes

        Then I would have to label you a war monger sir!

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