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Diane James is promoted to Ukip’s new look front bench

24 July 2014

24 July 2014

Nigel Farage has promoted a slew of women to senior roles in his reshuffle of the Ukip front bench. Diane James, who came close to winning the Eastleigh by-election, becomes the party’s home affairs and justice spokesperson. Louise Bours, a newly elected MEP, takes on the health brief. Her job will be to rebut Labour claims that Ukip wants to privatise the NHS. I understand that she’ll be emphasising Ukip’s commitment to a universal national health service free at the point of use. Jane Collins, who stood for Ukip in the Barnsley and Rotherman by-elections, becomes the spokesperson on employment. While Jill Seymour takes on transport and Margot Parker small business.

There’s also an emphasis on blue collar voices in the reshuffle. The party’s new defence spokesman is Mike Hookem, a former RAF man and Yorkshire MEP. Paul Nuttall, the party’s deputy leader, takes on education.

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This reshuffle has two aims. First, to show that Ukip is not just a one man band — that there’s more to the party than Nigel Farage; second, to shake off the party’s reputation as a home for disaffected Tories. This new team is meant to show that Ukip is more than the political wing of the golf club bar.

The big challenge for Ukip is to find a way to keep up its momentum between now and May. It has to find a way to make itself part of the general election debate if it is not to get squeezed in 2015.


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  • TheGovAlwaysLies

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  • Welshboy

    UKIP should know that if they want to win the next General Election, they need to gain 13,000,000 votes to gain an overall majority. The reason why it is this much is because I based it on how short the faux-conservatives were from winning the election outright and population growth.

  • Lady Magdalene

    What’s the betting Mrs May will refuse to participate in any debate with Diane James. I doubt if she’ll even deign to sit in the same TV studio.

  • Chingford Man

    Immigration doesn’t seem to be part of Diane’s portfolio. Nevertheless there’s a whole new front for UKIP to open with Home Affairs and Justice. The key point is that the Left has long since taken over the law enforcement and criminal justice sectors. That means more anti-social behaviour, higher crime (despite fiddled figures) and loss of liberty. Any party that is serious about addressing these issues and not just engaging in fake tough talk for the tabloids is on to a winner, particularly with the lower middle class and working poor that are most inclined to UKIP. The writings of Peter Hitchens would be a good start.

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    • Chingford Man

      Now I wonder from which continent this originates. Maybe the wizard could work his magic on Dave.

  • you_kid

    The question we always wanted to ask: who will be the next Ukip Shadow Minister for Wind Farms and other Great Subsidies to Sponge?

    Congdon? Surely not.
    Dartmouth? Must be in contention.
    Come on guys – list a FULL shadow cabinet, you muppets.

    • Wessex Man

      Does your mum know you are still up?

      • HookesLaw

        We all know of the UKIP donor who is making money out of wind farms.
        You can admit it.

        • you_kid

          And that. The thing is:
          fruitcakes are called fruitcakes for a reason.

          • Gazcon

            Because the person hurling the insult has lost the argument?

            • you_kid

              I will coin fruitcakes fruitcakes until they get their acts together and scrutinise their sponging leadership.
              Now do some work, fruitcakes. Everyone can moan – work!

              • Gazcon

                Like Nick Clegg who only turns up for 23% of votes in the HofC? Or should we keep an eye on all the Tories, Lib Dems and Labour in the HofC and see exactly how much work they will be doing over the next year, as opposed to electioneering.

                UKIP councillors have the best attendance records bar none. UKIP are the only party in the European Parliament standing up for the UK. By voting for the various rules, regs and motions, the Tories & Labour are damaging our country and democracy. See the vote last week where the Tories voted against allowing Lithuania a referendum on joining the Euro.
                UKIP not turning up in the EP is a tired old cannard, one of the last weapons of a failed argument. Like “they’re racist”, “They’re a one issue party”, “they will never do well nationally”, “they haven’t even got any MPs”. One by one these “arguments” fall by the wayside, yet UKIP’s opponents cling to them well past their sell by date, and look ridiculous in the process.

                I will coin pathetic internet trolls pathetic internet trolls, until they educate themselves on the subject on which they speak and take an interest in the issues that matter rather than “humorous” party political attacks.

                • you_kid

                  yes, now call it ‘green’ crap one more time and I will get my newly imported water cannon out. This will be fun and the you_kids will love it, especially on a day like today.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …can you direct your sockpuppet army to the water, lad? They stink bad.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      …well, it should be one of you global warmingist nutters, shouldn’t it, lad?

  • Seldom Seen

    Let me get this right: a woman who didn’t win a by-election is joining the front bench team of a party that doesn’t have any seats in Parliament. Kafka-esque is the word that springs to mind …

    • Wessex Man

      Yes that’s right but she pushed all the way from zero to come a close second and would have won without the rigged postal vote. Pretty good I reckon and next time the Tories, Labtards and Lib/dums won’t be able to throw their massive machines up against her because they will be fighting for their politcal lives throughout the country-happy days!

    • HookesLaw

      A slew of women? Its all PR and window dressing isn’t it?

    • global city

      only if you’re completely bloody ignorant of the democratic process.

      The fact that you raise these positions as an absurdity is, well, absurd.

      go away and think about things for a while.

  • Conway

    And all of these women are there on merit – not because some focus group said there weren’t enough females.

    • dado_trunking

      You know, this notion that Africa didn’t work because old men are rubbish at not being corrupt and/or shooting each other and so on … well, you know, same applies here, laddie. Your leftie idea, now live with it.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …that’s another good thing about you having an army of sockpuppets, lad: You’re your own focus group. You socialist nutters can use that.

        • dado_trunking

          You lefties and your wimmin – hilarious to watch how you are now tripping all over your own carbon footprints, all whilst fighting out who on the right had the bigger bigoted butts.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …can any of you socialist nutters translate this nutter’s gibberish?

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  • Gazcon

    For other, more “pale, male and stale” parties, I can see why such appointments might be worthy of comment. However UKIP are giving these roles to women, blue collar workers etc because these are the kinds of people that make up UKIP. Unlike the professional politicians that dominate the other parties, it is not at all surprising that UKIP makes such appointments. It is not the cynical window dressing that we see elsewhere.

    UKIP’s 24 MEPs were selected by a free vote of the party membership, and then backed by UKIP voters. From memory, there were 10 women, a gay man, a muslim, three or four in their thirties, many “blue collar”…. therefore it should not be noteworthy when these people are given appropriate portfolios.

    Here we have an ex-RAF man at defence, a farmer at agriculture etc etc. Merit, ability, experience, not gender or to tick a box. Take note Cameron& Miliband.

    • HookesLaw

      Ex RAF man – he served four years. Then he did some city and guilds as a carpenter. Good for him. He is a jobbing builder and giver out of Energy Performance Certificates. This plus his 4 GCSE’s qualifies him to formulate defence strategy.
      I am sure he like a lot of other kippers will be very good at coming out with a lot of home spun philosophy.

      Meantime Louise (van der) Bours is an ex Brookside actress who can hold a tune. As an actress we can be sure she will be good at all the PR stuff and at looking sincere.

      • Gazcon

        So between the two of them they have more experience outside of Westminster than the entire cabinet and shadow cabinet combined. This is a good thing.

        I would not be so so dismissive of ‘home spun philosophy’. If governments of the past 20 years had used a bit more home spun philosophy and fewer focus groups and spin doctors the world would be a better place, and there would have been no necessity for UKIP to come into being.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        It’s amusing to be watching you, the singer of the numpty Camerloon poshboys’ praises, is having a go at experienced citizens, lad. You know, people who live in the real world, and work in it, as opposed to your Camerloon heroes, who never have.

      • Lady Magdalene

        Abe Lincoln was full of “homespun philosophy” …. didn’t stop him winning the American Civil War.

  • vircantium

    “Her job will be to rebut Labour claims that Ukip wants to privatise the
    NHS. I understand that she’ll be emphasising Ukip’s commitment to a
    universal national health service free at the point of use.”

    The Labour claim, were it true, would not be incompatible with the second point, unless you are taken in by the Leftist (“sick people left in the gutter, wot like in America?”) scaremongering. Health insurance is not the same as healthcare provision. The state can have a role in the former (that’s the universal access/f.a.p.o.u. thing); it need not be involved in the latter.

    • HookesLaw

      It does in France and Germany as a couple of for instances – they set the rate of compulsory insurance and fund the deficits of their NHSs and raise the insurance if the deficits get too big (or cut the service requirements if they cannot find the money)
      The French health care system is coordinated centrally by its Ministry of Health
      Most hospitals in France are state hospitals. Most private clinics are state approved (otherwise users of the French NHS cannot use them).
      You will struggle to find a country in the world where its government is not deeply involved in its health care.

  • Tom Hewitt

    What does Diane James know about Home Affairs and Justice?

    • @PhilKean1

      .
      Ahh, there won’t be an easier question to answer than this one.

      Answer = She knows that Britain needs to leave the EU as soon as possible.
      .

    • will91

      She knows that the British people have a right not to have benefit guzzling, terror suspects wandering the streets. That’s a decent start.

      • Tom Hewitt

        I assume you are hailing May’s role in removing Abu Qatada?

        • will91

          He’s the tip of the iceberg. I could name another 2 dozen high profile extremists who operate here with complete impunity.

        • HookesLaw

          And the issue of removing him had nothing to do with the EU.

    • The Masked Marvel

      More than the current occupant.

      • Tom Hewitt

        Well May has done the job for 4 years so I would be surprised if that was the case.

        • The Masked Marvel

          And look at the bang-up job she’s done, eh?

          • Tom Hewitt

            She is actually one of the most successful ministers in the government, certainly more capable than her recent predecessors.

            She has significantly reduced non-EU immigration, which she can control. And don’t blame her for EU immigration, she has no power to control it – she is working well within the constraints she has.

            • Tom Hewitt

              And if Diane James was appointed as Home Secretary tomorrow she would be working under the same constraints – and she would probably be bloody useless.

              UKIP should stick to what they used to be good at – a single issue anti EU party, not dithering around pretending to be a professional party and covering policy areas which they will never have any influence over.

              If leaving the EU is the answer to all our problems, UKIP would be better focusing their resources on trying to win that argument.

              • Brimstone52

                But then people would whinge that UKIP is a single issue party and can be ignored. They are now showing that they have government in their sights.

                Until c1913, all MPs were unpaid amateurs. It was after then that we started to decline. They only started to receive payment because many Labour candidate had no other income.

                • Tom Hewitt

                  People haven’t started voting for UKIP because UKIP have suddenly decided they have policies on issues such as health and education. People are voting for them because of their stance on the EU and immigration, two connected issues.

                  There is nothing wrong with being a single issue party in principle as long as the party admits it. And by doing so they would become far more effective at campaigning on the issues their voters really care about.

                • Brimstone52

                  The past is done. We are now dealing with the future.

                • red2black

                  The future is shaped by past and present events.

                • Brimstone52

                  It is also shaped by people getting off their backsides and doing things.

                • fubarroso

                  In some respects you are correct. It has taken a long time for UKIP to make the connection between the EU and uncontrolled immigration. Our job over the next few months is to show the connection between the EU and a) the climate change scam, b) recent flooding of the Somerset Levels and elsewhere c) contaminated meat and most importantly d) the loss of UK sovereignty in matters of law.

                • red2black

                  So you actually mean ‘wealthy unpaid amateurs’.

                • Brimstone52

                  Not necessarily wealthy. Parliament didn’t start until the afternoon so that MPs who had jobs “in the real world” could attend them.

              • Lady Magdalene

                We’re winning the argument with the British people.
                But we need to get a Parliament of people who are prepared to vote to leave the EU and that means getting rid of LibLabCON MPs who will never vote to leave.
                And we can only do that if we are a fully-fledged political party with a full range of policies.
                We are going to shatter the LibLabCONsensus which has betrayed the British people for 5 decades now.

            • The Masked Marvel

              Not significantly enough, especially considering the Brodie Clark fiasco. Never mind the passport fiasco, the G4S fiasco, barring Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer for entering the country and being dishonest about the reason, Cat Out Of The Bag, stabbing Gove in the back…..

              • Tom Hewitt

                Cabinet ministers lead strategy and come up with policies for their departments. There job is not to micro-manage their departments – that is the job of civil servants – so blame them.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …yes, blame the civil servants because Mistress May the Queen of Darkness wants to turn the country into a modern day East Germany.

            • fubarroso

              “the constraints she has” pretty well sums up the situation. Diane James would be under no such constraints.

              • Tom Hewitt

                UKIP need to win the argument for Brexit before that statement can be valid. And whilst UKIP came first in the EU elections, most polls still show a majority in favour of staying in.

                • HookesLaw

                  73% voted against UKIP whos sole USP was leaving the EU.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …and how’d your buddies the Camerloons make out, lad?

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  No, if the domestic law changes in a way that the EUSSR doesn’t like, they can ignore the EUSSR’s objections. It’s done quite often elsewhere. Maybe you’ve missed it.

                  No exit necessary in that scenario. Just change what you want.

    • itdoesntaddup

      Presumably it also covers the tricky immigration brief.

      • Holly

        Which would be much less of a problem if we were not hog tied to Europe?

    • Rallan

      Diane James is no more or less qualified than most cabinet ministers. Do you think ministers are chosen because of their specialist expertise in the field?

      • Tom Hewitt

        No I think people who have expertise should be appointed as ministers in the relevant departments. Shows UKIP is no different from the ‘main parties.’

        • Rallan

          Actually I totally agree with you when it comes to cabinet ministers. If there was a proper job requirement in government posts then the other parties would have to raise their game likewise.

          But UKIP is a new party with limited resources and no immediate prospect of being in government. Diane James is at least as good as the mainstream parties are offering.

          • Tom Hewitt

            UKIP only has clueless people to put forward because the party has not attracted real talent.

            • Rallan

              Ah, I see you’re just a troll. My mistake.

              • Tom Hewitt

                If speaking out against some of the crap that goes round makes me a troll – then yes.

                • Rallan

                  Wow. Until now I hadn’t looked, but as far as I can see you seem to spend pretty much all of your time “speaking out”. You post so much!

                  Is it a paid job, or are you an unemployed obsessive?

                • Tom Hewitt

                  Hmm I have 28 comments and you have 532. If a rational person was to take a guess based on that information, they would assume you were the unemployed one.

                • Rallan

                  You’re right! Somehow I saw a higher number. The heat must be makingme crazy. My bad.

                • HookesLaw

                  Its impossible to keep track of all the UKIP ‘crap’ that goes around. Its a cult filled with npeople with closed minds. All hail Saint Nigel.

            • Smithersjones2013

              So you favour the current corrupt rotten status quo do you?

              That says all people need to know

              • Tom Hewitt

                Britain actually has one of the lowest corruption rates in the world. The only reason it is even sometimes a story is because it is so rare.

                And at least the status quo doesn’t put forward childish and simplistic arguments that simply leaving the EU would solve all our problems. The EU is part of the problem, but they are many issues which have nothing to do with it.

                • Smithersjones2013

                  No its only the simplistic dumbed down interpretation of those arguments by journalists in order to communicate with the likes of yourself that seems to be the problem……

                • Tom Hewitt

                  Charming.

                • Wessex Man

                  See above idiot!

                • Lady Magdalene

                  UKIP has never claimed that leaving the EU will solve all our problems.
                  But what we DO say is that unless we leave the EU, we will not be able to solve them because we don’t govern our own country and the EU does not have OUR interests at heart.
                  When we leave the EU, we will be starting on a long road to solve our problems.

            • Wessex Man

              Real talent? as in Vince Cable, Chris Hulne, what’sisname Patterson, David Laws, you are having a laugh again but again it’s only you that’s gurgling.

              • Tom Hewitt

                I have no time for the Lib Dems, so I assume we are in partial agreement.

                And if Owen Paterson is the other name you were trying to get at, then yes he is a perfect example of someone with real talent. He understood the countryside and did a damn good job as Environment secretary.

                • Wessex Man

                  Went to view the floods of the Somerset Levels without his wellies, nothing but a laughing stock in the west country!

                • Tom Hewitt

                  Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t he get cheered at the Game Fair last week? Even Farage joined in…

          • HookesLaw

            Prospective candidates in the three mainstream parties go the rounds putting themselves forward for judgement and if elected they come under the judgement of their peers re their suitability for promotion. It requires a lot of hard work and dedication and their abilities and suitibility are put under scrutiny
            UKIP have very little scrutiny, the pushiest will get selected.

            • Rallan

              Yawn

              • HookesLaw

                Yes you are dozy

                • Rallan

                  Bored yawn. It’s hot, your comments are pointless. Stop being such a d!ck and do something more interesting instead.

          • red2black

            Limited resources? UKIP is funded by a group of extremely wealthy individuals.

        • Smithersjones2013

          So you want corrupt police or Lawyers who have ‘overlooked’ prosecuting child abusers or Prison Governors who have backed the doubling of prison numbers or immigration and probation officers who cannot cope with the volumes of their work. My how comforting the thought of that is

          • Tom Hewitt

            Doesn’t sound like you are describing people with expertise.

            • Smithersjones2013

              Well that’s all there is sunshine so what are you going to do then because our legal system and our justice systems (we have three) are unique to this nation. There ain’t no ‘experts’ elsewhere!

              • Tom Hewitt

                An immature and overly cynical response.

                • Smithersjones2013

                  So you have no response of worth to that point and find it necessary to resort to asinine comments. I’d say this debate is done then.

                • Wessex Man

                  He’s having a laugh, only he’s not funny!

                • Tom Hewitt

                  A few incompetent idiots making the headlines does not mean they are representative of everyone who works in our legal and justice system.

                • Smithersjones2013

                  Well the cover ups have been going on for decades at high levels of government so its more than just ‘a few incompetent idiots’.

                  Reality is that just about every single pillar of the establishment except the monarchy and perhaps the miltary has been shown to be systemically pretty corrupt (using the full definition of the word) for decades demonstrating a self indulgent complacent arrogant disregard for the tenets upon which our society was based. Its time that every last piece of that corruption was purged and that ain’t going to happen by relying on the rotten establishment parties who are at the very heart of such corruption!

    • Holly

      More than the current/last lot.
      It’s not exactly rocket science.
      We are hog tied to Europe, and until we untie ourselves we will do as they say.

    • MirthaTidville

      Probably more than Theresa May

      • Wessex Man

        I have a feeling this is tele babe operating under another name.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          No, but it does bear the hallmark of a self-interested troll, in somebody’s payment.

    • Smithersjones2013

      What does Theresa May , Chris Graying, Jacqui Smith or Alan Johnson know about it either then? Given how the whole Criminal Justice system seems rotten to the core (hacking scandal, child abuse cover-ups, the Hillsborough cover up etc) I would have thought the last thing these policy briefs need is an insider.

      The last thing we need is another lawyer (Clarke, Grieve, Straw etc) After all look at the likes of Grieve and Clarke selling us out to their masters in Brussels!

      So. Diane James is not an insider and she is a true Eurosceptic who no doubt wants to properly control immigration. Now that’s a half decent CV. Now if she adds to that a healthy scepticism for the disastrous liberal sentencing policies and the equally disastorous human rights agenda that have been adopted over the past 20 years and a desire to dismantle the political crassness at the heart of the Home Office and she will be a great fit for the job!

    • Wessex Man

      probably a lot more than you.

      • Tom Hewitt

        I am not putting myself forward as a shadow home secretary.

        • HookesLaw

          Don’t worry, neither is she, seriously.

          But indeed what do we know about her. She opposes what she calls ‘creeping privatisation’ in the NHS. So is this UKIP policy – to have no private supply of services in the NHS? I suppose it is in Labour seats but not in tory ones.
          What do all the anti NHS kippers feel about this? How many different policies do UKIP have on the NHS?

          One saviong grace though – she hates foreigners. Good little kipper.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …you seem quite terrified, lad.

    • Brimstone52

      How much does any PPC know about the various government departments?

    • http://batman-news.com The Commentator

      Considerably more than Theresa May or Yvette Cooper-Balls.

  • global city

    Parker and Collins should work closely together as what McVey said about kids setting up business and entrepreneurialism is the most important is spot on.

    Farage was horribly wrong when he said a few years ago that entrepreneurs are born, not made. That’s like saying that nobody should enjoy playing football as only half a dozen kids each year are world beating talents.

    • Streben80

      There is a difference between being an entrepreneur and being self-employed – being an entrepreneur is a state of mind whereas many people start their own small businesses and make a reasonable living, often because they struggled to find employment but they dont all have the ability to reach beyond their comfort zone. You make the false assumption that anyone starting a business is an entrepreneur – Farage is realistic enough to know that isnt the case.

      • global city

        You are making the same mistake that I indicated Farage had. I’m not confusing or conflating self employment or entrepreneurialism, it is you who is confining your understanding of enterprise and entrepreneurs to the stellar cast of that group. The vast majority of samall business owners are not stellar, but most of them are entrepreneurs.

        This is why I raised the point. If we, as a society, understand that entrepreneurialism is not confined to a small minority of naturally talented geniuses (who do not need any sort of support or encouragement) then we, as a society, can rightly begin to appreciate the massive role it has in our country. More SME’s could expand faster and have support that could actually help this, thereby helping the growth in jobs that would help the EMPLOYMENT strategies a UKIP government would develop.

        In other words, putting enterprise, instead of ‘jobs’ or ‘inward investment’ at the centre of national economic policy would generate massively more rewards for us all as a society.

        • Streben80

          Expansion is not always to be desired or even possible. In other cases the rate of expension is clipped by the market the business operates in. This idea that if you just ‘support’ businesses, they can just then expand at will is absurd.
          Expanding a business is really not that difficult if you know what you are doing and if you dont, you shouldnt do it.
          What would help many people, both young and older alike is to provide a simple guide on how to establish themselves as self-employed – most people I meet dont even know that much and fear that in the over-regulated world of 2014 it will be too difficult, but many could run a sole trader business quite easily if they knew where to start.
          Government doesnt create business, people do, all government can do is create the best enviroment possible, which they have failed to do so far.

          • global city

            You’re drifting away from my point now. The couple of examples I gave were just that, examples. I did not try to provide a template or a manifesto in my little blog post.

            ‘This idea’ thing you highlight is also taking my sentiments the wrong way. Government needs to mainly just get out of the way of business, but they do regulate and introduce statutes. My point is that if we/they fully appreciate the wealth creation process better then they may well take a different approach to laws and regulation.

            The odd thing is that I agree with the rest of what you have to say. Governments do not create business or even opportunities…… add that to what you have written, then go back and reassess my original comments and we may end up getting somewhere.

        • HookesLaw

          Enterprise should be encouraged and to have tried and been unsuccessful should not be a criticism. The tories are pro encouraging enterprise.

          • global city

            You’d think so, but the new generation of leaders are as far removed from enterprise as any leftie academic.

            The New Enterprise Allowance is a perfect illustration of this lack of empathy or understanding…. it is truly crap and entirely designed around the needs of the ‘providers’.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      Well, he’s probably right, they are born and not made.

      That doesn’t mean you can’t have them up and down the town, mind you. But there are plenty of people who just don’t have the temperament for it. Anybody who finds their way into government, odds are, they are not the entrepreneurial type. Socialists generally aren’t.

      I don’t recall the specific quote from Farage, or the damage you think is caused by it, but I don’t think he’s limiting anything or anybody by making a fairly obvious point about a unique temperament required to be an entrepreneur.

      • global city

        I don’t think that Farage caused any damage, just that he has fell into the old assumption that entrepreneurs are restricted tothe few natural born ones, like Branson, when the aptitude and ability is much wider than politicos assume. I also insist that entrepreneurialism is not some majik and can be learned and applied. Lot’s of potentially good entrepreneurs never even consider setting up their own business because ‘people like them’ don’t do such things….etc.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          If he’s pointing to Branson, he’s more talking about an oligarch, in my mind. That example is of no use to anybody, as far as that goes. It’s got nothing to do with you and I and most others.

          But again, entrepreneurial temperament is “natural born”, and he’s right about that, if that was his point. Again, the socialists and pinks just don’t have that. But the young kid that knows how to hustle? He’s got it, he was born with it, or learned it early.

          Not to push it too far, but the black and grey economies are flooded with people who were born with these attributes. They’re sorta like the Branson oligarchs, too. They avoid government intrusion and expense. 😉

  • Aberrant_Apostrophe

    Front bench? That’s a tad premature!

    • Wessex Man

      no it’s not, private Tory communications are talking about losing 18 seats to Ukip and according To Lord Ashcroft’s latest poll labour are in danger of losing several to UKip, given that we might hopefully see Scotland gain Independence in Septembere that will be another 11 Lib/dum seats gone and 40 something Labour.

      oh happy day oh happy day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Aberrant_Apostrophe

        Front Bench: “…the foremost seats in the House of Commons, occupied by the members of the cabinet and shadow cabinet” OED.

        A ‘front bench’ therefore comprises elected MPs, hence my comment. However, I’m not disputing the predictions that UKIP will gain a dozen or more seats. The more the better!

        • Wessex Man

          when the Tories come begging it will be front bench, wiyhout Call me Dave the Husky Hugger.

  • @PhilKean1

    .

    Diane is extremely competent and credible.

    And this appointment comes at a time when increasing numbers of David Cameron’s own MPs are discovering that he has been leading them up the garden path – http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/douglascarswellmp/100281201/david-cameron-isnt-even-trying-to-change-our-relationship-with-the-eu-exit-is-the-only-option/

    We tried to tell them. Boy, we tried to tell them.
    .

    • @PhilKean1

      .

      Yes, and I wonder how much longer it will take for Douglas to work out why David Cameron is rushing to get Britain included the EU’s new, politically-weighted trade deals.

      Douglas: US-EU, Canada-EU and now, China-EU trade deals? – http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10986511/David-Cameron-EU-helps-Britain-punch-above-its-weight.html

      If Lord Popat is arguing that – ‘leaving the EU is ALREADY not an option because of the level of trade we do with Europe’ – just think how much extra weight Cameron will be able to give to that rationale once he has signed Britain up to even MORE EU trade deals.

      .

      • global city

        There is no ‘if’ about it, that is exactly what he is saying and it is what the vast majority of Tories believe and desire too!

    • global city

      Lord Popat’s statemente is nearer to the thinking of Cameron’s than most. What he is saying that no matter what way the project develops he thinks we must stay on board… all the way to the supranational and statist terminus.

      There has only been two options, stay on the bus for ever, or leave.

      • @PhilKean1

        What baffles me is how he managed to trick his backbench MPs that he would ever countenance taking Britain out of the EU.

        Seriously, the pro-Sovereignty MPs we thought were on our side have turned out to be little more than children.
        .

        • perdix

          If we get a referendum the British people will decide, not politicians. Of course ukip don’t want a referendum which might lead to Brexit, ukip would not be able to stay on the EU gravy train.

          • @PhilKean1

            Just when we thought we’d never heard such unadulterated rubbish.

            It WILL be politicians that decide. It is possible to win a referendum if the Tory leader campaigns to leave, but impossible if the Tory leader, ANY Tory leader, sides with Britain’s Labour, Liberal and EU enemies.

            UKIP politicians are taking that hard, NOT the easy route in British politics – unlike the establishment parties. If they wanted to stay on the gravy train they would have fought their seats under the Liberal, Labour and Conservative banners.

            And the last thing we need is a referendum we stand no chance of winning. That is why we need to elect politicians who understand Britain needs to leave the EU as a matter of urgency.
            .

          • Wessex Man

            What a plonker!

        • Conway

          We should have known that having had a foretaste of what would happen thanks to the Maastricht Treaty. When push came to shove they put party before country.

        • global city

          Yes. Party first and always.That’s their motto.

          Carswell may be the only genuine ‘outer’ in the whole group.

        • Lady Magdalene

          All part of the Great Deception Phil.

    • Magnolia

      It did not escape my notice that the PM sacked Mr Gove and Mr Patz who were the two ministers who had at one time said more or less openly that they would vote to leave the EU in certain circumstances, the other being Phil Hammond who was promoted to bring him ‘on side’ and to weaken the PM’s other arch rival, Mrs May.

      • @PhilKean1

        .
        But the Cabinet Ministers and MPs we need are the ones who understand that there are no circumstances under which Britain can stay in a political EU.
        .

        • Uptonmanor

          Reshuffling the deck chairs on HMS Tory after it has hit the UKIP iceberg is a futile exercise…….Game over.

      • Tom Hewitt

        You can’t have it both ways. Do you either want eurosceptics in the heart of government or outside?

        • Wessex Man

          In ther heart of government please, as soon as possible, vote UKip!

          • you_kid

            Indeed – why vote Tory? No one needs Tories to build windmills. Ukip alone are doing a brilliant job.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              …is that what your sockpuppets, think, lad?

              • you_kid

                You know what, lad – why don’t you just carry on voting Ukip, you renewables hater? The difference is – you chaps are deluded and will sulk, others have long accepted Europe’s energy transformation agenda decades ago.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …seriously, did you think anyone was going to read through that incoherent gibberish, lad? You’re a bigger socialist nutter than I thought.

                • you_kid

                  No lad, no one at all will read it – yet you are going to buy more of those lovely ecocrucifixes … because I say so. And you will carry on paying your Dartmouths and families good money doing that.
                  Your problem, not mine.
                  Never forget, lad: I set the agenda, you follow.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …and now you blather even more gibberish to be ignored, lad?

      • HookesLaw

        Gove is still, in the govt. Hammond – who is the man who said he could vote to leave if the EU was unreformed – he got promoted. You’re really just making things up.

    • James Alexander

      Here here, she is a very good politician, so is steven woolfe

    • Holly

      I am okay with Farage’s choices so far.
      Faces I recognise, and from what I have heard from the faces I recognise, messages I can relate to.
      Now all I have to do is remember their names.
      They need to bombard the media throughout the summer recess.

    • telemachus

      What was it they said about ethics yesterday?
      *
      The UKIP candidate fighting the Eastleigh by-election said today Romanians were associated with crime and called for a temporary halt to all immigration.

      Diane James was in the Hampshire constituency for a rally with supporters aided by UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

      Ms James, from Ewhurst in Surrey, said: ”Immigration is the elephant in the room that the other parties want not to address because they are heavily reliant on unrestricted immigration.”

      • @PhilKean1

        .
        Isn’t it so refreshing now that we have politicians of quality who’re prepared to tell the truth !
        .

        • telemachus

          It is a matter of emphasis

          • @PhilKean1

            .
            Emphasis? Or appeasement, political-correctness and self-censorship?
            .

          • Lady Magdalene

            No it isn’t. It’s a matter of being honest and not cowed by the PC Establishment and MSM.

        • Wessex Man

          Yes so much better for the country than the Lying, cheating, murdering, election rigging Labour Party.

    • Blindsideflanker

      “Diane is extremely competent and credible.”

      I am not so sure she is. After the Eastleigh by election she fronted many media programs for UKIP, and I found she seemed to have an unerring ability of missing a political barn door when offered it.

    • Lady Magdalene

      Diane and Suzanne Evans are top notch representatives. So is Stephen Woolfe …. I am so pleased he has a dual brief.
      Farage has built a good team …. now we need to get their profiles raised in the electorate’s eye.

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      My name is morgan keri.i want to give thanks to dr.trust for bringing back my ex husband.No one could have ever made me believe that the letter I’m about to write would actually one day be written. I was the world’s biggest skeptic. I never believed in magic spells or anything like this, but I was told by a reliable source (a very close co-worker) that Trust is a very dedicated, gifted, and talented person,It was one of the best things I have ever done. My love life was in shambles; I had been through two divorces and was on the brink of a third. I just couldn’t face another divorce, and I wanted to try harder to make our relationship work, but my husband didn’t seem to care. and he brake up with me again.I was confuse and do not no what to do again,rather them to get in contact with dr.trust. He did a love spell that make my husband come back to me. we are now very much happy with ourself. dr.trust make him to realise how much we love and need each other.This man is for REAL and for good.he can also help you to fix your broken relationship. I had my husband back! It was like a miracle! He suddenly wanted to go to marriage counselling, and we’re doing very, very well,in our love life.contact email(ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com tel:+234186885231)
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    • Derek Natasha

      Hi, my name is Derek Natasha. I have been in great bondage for almost 2 years suffering in the hands of a cheating husband,we were happy and leaving well until he meant his old time girl friend and he started dating her outside our marriage before you knew he stoped caring and taking care of his own family it was to the extent that he was planning to get married to her and divorce me his own wife, i have cried and reported him to his family but he never listened to any one but to cut my story short i came in search for a real spell caster who could destroy their relationship and make him come back to me and our 2 kids on my search i saw people making testimony on how their marriage where restored by Dr.Trust i pick his email and i narrated my story to him and he agreed to help me and after performing a spell on the second day both had a quarrel and he beat his girlfriend up and he came home begging for i and my little kids to forgive him that his eyes are clear now that he will never do any thing that will hurt his family again and promise to be a caring father and never cheat again.I am so so happy that i did not loose him to the girl. all appreciation goes to Dr.Trust for you are a Great spell caster and to whom this may concern if you have a cheating husband or wife or you need your ex lover back again. you can as well email him on (Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or ultimatespellcast@gmail.com) or you can call him +2348156885231. web site http://ultimatespellcast-net.webs.com

  • james allen

    There is no real debate in the GE 2015 without UKIP. All the three other parties want to hand-over yet more powers to Brussels and spend more than they earn. Only UKIP proposes doing something different.

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