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Both the Conservatives and Labour lack momentum – the election won’t be easy for either party

2 July 2014

9:49 AM

2 July 2014

9:49 AM

What with his victory parade to celebrate a failure in Europe and Labour’s continuing muttering and complaining, David Cameron must be feeling pretty positive about Prime Minister’s Questions today. He’s managed to annoy some of his MPs with a Downing Street hint that it will not oppose Michael Moore’s bill to enshrine the 0.7 per cent aid target in law, but at least the Prime Minister can count on a good tribal feeling on his backbenches to tide him through today’s session.

He could taunt Miliband with Jon Cruddas’ ‘dead hand’ quote, or Lord Glasman’s assessment that his party lacks a sense of direction. Or the former advisers who tell today’s Independent that the party is still perceived as ‘anti-business’ (handy, that, given the party is having a pro-business week, or is supposed to be having one anyway). Or he could go for the jobs figures that Miliband used, and then dropped, for his big growth launch with Lord Adonis yesterday. Conservative aides enjoyed watching Matt Hancock distract from that central announcement about devolving spending and power down to regions and cities, but they knew that stats blunders like this are traps that all parties fall into when in opposition. The challenge for Labour, though, is that these blunders are still happening when the election is less than a year away. As John said last night, the party machine is struggling to get attention for its plans for power, and struggling to deflect the attention from its mistakes.

There is something else that worries Labourites, and that’s a sense that no-one quite has the momentum yet. Optimists in the Tory party think they are winning because they look at how the party is doing in the air war, with better headlines, fewer hostile briefings coming out of the party and a sense that the party appears slicker. Pragmatists, often those with a background in the City who are more comfortable studying numbers than feelings, look at the marginal seats the Tories must retain, and the seats they must win, and wonder how on earth they’re going to manage it. Labour pragmatists know their ground war is still better, but they worry that there is insufficient momentum behind their campaign, no ‘Things Can Only Get Better’ song, and only an absence of the hatred that they encountered on the doorstep in 2010. They also fear that the voter hatred has not transferred to the Conservatives. So neither party is hated, but neither party has the energy or automatic purchase with voters. It’s a tall order for Labour to try to do this in one term as an opposition, but a clunky party machine won’t make that any easier.

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  • Pier66

    Dish of the day…first lesson…( joking of course)
    Making Britain a better place…
    VOTE FOR TORY ALWAYS AND FOR EVER
    YNWA AND TORY IN THE FA NOW

  • Fraser Bailey

    Well it’s hardly surprising, is it? The Tories rule for the ‘top’ 1%, and Labour for, perhaps, the ‘top’ 3 or 4%. Given that both parties are at 30% or more in the polls, they should be congratulated on a monstrous feat of deception.

  • pobinr

    Only the irrational could vote FibDemLabCon

    Liberal Democrats – The party of liberty, democracy and equality who are anti having the liberty to decide on Europe via a referendum and anti democracy in being EUrophiles. Pro equality yet they want to treat EU citizens preferentially!
    But that’s the opposite of liberty and democracy & equality isn’t it?
    LibDems the Party for people that don’t believe in liberty, democracy or equality

    Labour – Anti referendum, pro EU and pro immigration.
    Result = Mass immigration of cheap labour driving down wages, taking jobs, taking homes, making more traffic congestion and making slumlords & low wage payers richer.
    But that’s the opposite of Socialism isn’t it?
    Labour the party for seriously deluded people!

    Tories – The party of small government most of whom are EUrophiles meaning gigantic bloated centralised EU government that’s ballooning out of control.
    But that’s the opposite of Conservatism isn’t it?
    Conservatives in reality the party for People that need to vote UKIP if they are conservative

    Vote for the three main parties and get the opposite of what you want!

    Then take a look here.
    Pure common sense & what rational people want > http://www.ukip.org/issues

  • global city

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5061/eu_the_long_and_inevitable_goodbye

    Let’s hope he’s right. There is a good article by Redwood too… link below the main article.

  • DaveTheRave

    The headline is quite an understatement.
    Only UKIP have the momentum.
    We need a transformation in our political class and climate. That would be best served by electing a whole new batch of MPs next May.
    The elite parties have tried and failed, at home and abroad.

  • Lady Magdalene

    “Neither party is hated”
    Are you sure? I think all 3 of them are.
    Which is why UKIP is doing so well.

  • Amir

    Check this article out about Ed Miliband’s weaknesses:

    http://www.casualpolitics.co.uk/2014/06/is-labour-still-in-the-game/

    • Fred Smith

      It’s barely intelligible. Good cartoon though.

      You need to improve your writing style a lot.

  • Colonel Mustard

    Politics by other means. Mumsnet campaigns against PMQs with an online petition. Run by Justine Roberts who just happens to be married to Ian Katz (Newsnight editor).

    http://order-order.com/2014/07/02/mumsnet-idea-lacks-fun/#comments

    The future is pressure groups. If you don’t belong to one you probably won’t be represented in our “democracy”.

  • Terry Field

    Both parties have applied criminally incompetent administration to the British people and the British economy since the end of the Second World War.
    The only exception was the excellent, but corrective, administration of Margaret Thatcher.
    Why would anyone have any enthusiasm for either party.
    The choice of UKIP for many reflects this despair.
    For others, they vote for Labour or Conservative, with pomade in hand and holding their noses to avoid the stench.

    • global city

      September’s manifesto launch will be vital. It will either be the seminal moment, when UKIP becomes a party of serious Westminster involvement or the beginning of it’s slow decline.

      • Terry Field

        They will ally with Peppa Pig and conquer the Moslems. Or not.

        • global city

          I think that you have identified an example of BBC institutional racism there!

          • Terry Field

            Are you suggesting even for a second that Peppa is not Halal?

            • global city

              That’s even worse. The BBC must be trying to subliminally humiliate Muslims by projecting jewish pigs into their living rooms.

              This is unacceptable.

    • Conway

      Pomade? Does their hair need to be made shiny? I think you may mean pomander.

      • Terry Field

        WHatever stops the stink, old cocker, whatever stops the stink. ( code for God he is right, how stupid of me!)

  • lakelander

    Truth be told, there is no great appetite for either party. So many of us find UKIP’s message fresh and appealing but know we daren’t vote for them and allow Miliband a thoroughly undeserved victory.

    • Denis_Cooper

      Instead of Cameron getting a thoroughly undeserved victory.

    • Conway

      If you vote for something you don’t really want in order to try to avoid getting something you really don’t want, then you deserve all you get. Vote for something you believe in.

      • lakelander

        I understand that, but we have a first past the post voting system which will give us an unintended result.

    • Lady Magdalene

      It’s people like you who have condemned the UK to governance by the EU and a slow decline.
      The definition of madness is keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.
      Voting LibLabCON is not going to result in the kind of change this country needs. There is precious little difference between any of LibLabCON …. it doesn’t matter which one “wins” – the British people lose.
      Have some faith and vote for real change.

      • lakelander

        People like me? No, it is entirely legitimate to argue exit from the EU from within the Conservative party (or the Labour party, for that matter).

        If a high proportion of erstwhile Tory votes go to UKIP in 2015 we will have a Labour government, no referendum and a great deal of socialism again before we can attempt to put things right in 2020.

        Do see sense.

        • Lady Magdalene

          It is entirely legitimate for you to argue for EU exit from within the Conservative Party ….. but the Party elite aren’t listening. They haven’t been listening since Macmillan told our Commonwealth cousins to find other markets.
          I would have thought that even the most loyal Conservative would have worked out by now that arguing for EU exit from within the Party of IN is pointless.
          It’s the ex Conservatives like me who have seen sense. I will not vote for a Party with a policy of remaining in the EU and playing a constructive role … which is Tory policy. I will not vote for a Party with a Leader who says he will NEVER take the UK out of the EU.
          I will be voting for what I want: a free, independent, Sovereign Britain. That means voting UKIP. And if Labour gets back in, so what …. we will still be governed by the EU whether it’s LibLab or CON doing the grovelling to Merkel and Juncker.

          • lakelander

            It might be OK in theory, getting a Labour government, “LibLabCon”, etc but I bet – 2 years in – you would regret having Miliband as PM, Harman behind the scenes and McCluskey pulling the strings.

            I agree the Tories have been far too Europhile but that can change. Even the City is starting to wear of EU meddling.

            Come on now, I don’t want to castigating you if we lose the chance of a referendum.

            • Lady Magdalene

              To get Thatcher, we had to put up with another destructive Labour Govt. I see no difference this time.
              Cameron is no Conservative. Find yourselves a BOO Leader and I’ll reconsider.

  • Amir

    check this article out about Ed Miliband’s last chance:

    http://www.casualpolitics.co.uk/2014/06/is-labour-still-in-the-game/

  • Kitty MLB

    How can Labour possibly have any chance, they are economically, socially and
    morally bankrupt in every possible way.
    They purposely destroyed this country and turned their backs on the core Labour
    voter, the working classes in favour of those from the middle east.
    The Conservative Party have made mistakes and going in to coalition with the Lib Dems and allowing them far too much say was a mistake.
    But the country is on the mend . Giving the matches back to the party that caused the
    economic firestorm would be catastrophic.

    • Fred Smith

      Buggin’s Turn.

    • Terry Field

      There are many millions of economically, socially and morally bankrupt people who will vote for ‘the labour’ in order to receive ill-gotten State largesse.
      THAT is how they will win.

      • Pier66

        Very few they lost lots of people working class turn to Ukip

        • Terry Field

          Really??????

          • Pier66

            Dont be sarcastic thats true

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    • Lady Magdalene

      The Conservative Party is more responsible than any other for the fact that we are trapped in the EU and are governed by unelected, unaccountable German-approved placemen.
      YOUR Party is responsible for the destruction of our Sovereignty. Everything else stems from that.
      Find yourselves a BOO Leader or prepare to be destroyed.

      • The_Missing_Think

        Post 7k Newark, destroyed seems unlikely.

        What’s needed are a few more by-elections, if the same ugly tactis are re-activated, producing a ‘Stop – UKIP’ triangular vote – as seen in Newark – UKIP might have to consider dealing with it… perhaps… before the main battle of 2015 begins.

    • DaveTheRave

      Labour have no chance.
      If they did I’d be the first on the plane to leave.
      Ok, where’s me passport…

  • HookesLaw

    ‘Manufacturing output pushed sterling to a 6 year high’. ‘Recovery growiong and broadening out.’

    With headlines like these its hard to see why there should not be momentum with the conservatives. There is also, ‘9 out of 10 new jobs going to UK workers’

    • Blindsideflanker

      Because of Cameron’s politically suicidal urges. When ever the Conservatives are getting a bit of a favourable political wind, Cameron goes and puts them on the political rocks with some metropolitan politically correct indulgence that is designed to really hack of conservative minded voters.

      • HookesLaw

        In your hysteric nutjob dreams maybe.

        • Fred Smith

          There’s no question that Cameron has gone out of his way needlessly to alienate a good portion of what should have been his core support. Same-sex marriage did a lot of damage for almost no compensating support.

          Nothing hysterical or nutjob about it.

          • Conway

            The NPPF didn’t help, either.

    • Fred Smith

      It doesn’t necessarily work that way. As I recall the economic figures were quite good in the last year or so of the Major government, but the ‘feel-good factor’ proved elusive and mythical Tory sleaze played a big part. The result was a massive defeat which left the Tory Party stunned and directionless.

      This was somewhat ironic in view of the fact that Nu Labour was enmired in enormous scandals from the word go, but they were in power for three terms.

      Miliband is no Blair, but it won’t be decided totally by economic figures or even tangible evidence that the economy is improving.

    • Lady Magdalene

      And out in the real world, property prices are being pushed higher thanks to “Help to Buy (Votes).
      The green belt is being destroyed to provide houses for immigrants and profits for developers.
      Immigration is out of (our) control – because the EU controls it.
      Our public services are being stretched to breaking point because of the population increase, caused by mass immigration. In some places it is impossible to get a GP appointment. Schools are flooded with immigrant children.
      We are governed by an unelected, unaccountable foreign organisation – and that’s just how Cameron intends it should stay.

  • Smithersjones2013

    Labour pragmatists know their ground war is still better, but they worry
    that there is insufficient momentum behind their campaign, no ‘Things
    Can Only Get Better’ song, and only an absence of the hatred that they
    encountered on the doorstep in 2010. They also fear that the voter
    hatred has not transferred to the Conservatives. So neither party is
    hated, but neither party has the energy or automatic purchase with
    voters.

    Or of course both parties are now equally toxic in different parts of the country. Tories in Labour urban ghettos and increasingly in run down ignored market and seaside towns and Labour in leafy shire Tory heartlands and increasingly in desolate ignored urban sprawls.

    The thing is that both have deserted their core voters selling them out for membership of the global urban liberal elite cult in a sort of ‘Bilderberg or bust’ mutual suicide pact.

    What’s clear is neither Labour nor Conservative represent the best interests of the British people.

    • Blindsideflanker

      Very true. The left have deserted the working man for their internationalism, the Libdems would sell us out to the EU, and the right have deserted the country for globalism. None of the establishment parties speak for our country. They outed themselves by expressing horror at the prospect of putting our country first when Gordon Brown blurted out ‘British jobs for British workers’.

      • Wessex Man

        VOTE UKIP!

    • Mike Barnes

      When did the Tories ignore their voters? I know gay marriage hurt your feelings but that’s really irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Everything they’ve done is to look after their own, ‘help to buy’ applies to £600k middle class homes, 50% tax cut, pensioner bonds, protected pensioner benefits, super ISAs and all the other bribes…

      • Conway

        Building on green field sites, failing to address the runaway immigration problem (‘net’ immigration is a cop out), pretending to be EU sceptic but being fully on board with everything EU (Cameron really lost the plot with that fake referendum ‘cast iron guarantee’ over Lisbon), failing to deliver on the tax breaks for married couples which was in the manifesto (but ignoring the consultation results and redefining marriage for everybody which wasn’t), borrowing more and barely touching the deficit. How about that, for starters?

      • Lady Magdalene

        You obviously missed the Child Benefit fiasco.
        Couples earning £80K between them continue to receive it. Immigrant families continue to receive it – even if their children live overseas. Single earning families with an income of £43,000 (not much if you live in the SE) had it removed.

  • Blindsideflanker

    If the Conservatives want to know why they are lagging in the polls and not connecting , well there it is.

    Cameron has made Aid a key policy of his, which has not brought any polling benefit to the Tories .

    Cameron, monetarily abandons his self imposed silence, stands up the EU, and gets a boost in the polls.

    Now rather than it sinking in with Cameron that more of the former is bad for Conservative election prospects, and more of the latter is good got them, he instead goes off on one of his self destructive lurches and decides lets really rub Conservative minded voters noses in it by legislating to give away 0.7% of our wealth in Aid.

    ‘strewth!

    Cameron has one of the most debilitating political disabilities in the history of politics, a malfunctioning political nose combined with politically suicidal urges.

    • HookesLaw

      Only to idiots like you who jump to Farage’s nasty dog whistles.

    • Denis_Cooper

      “… stands up the EU, and gets a boost in the polls.”

      Maybe, maybe not:

      http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8884

      “Two polls showing a reduced Labour lead of two points, plus the Ashcroft poll showing a Tory lead. There will be a temptation to interpret this as a “Juncker effect”. On the other hand Populus’s poll this morning had a four point Labour lead, the changes in ComRes are month-on-month, so don’t need to be related to the last couple of days and there’s really nothing here yet that couldn’t be normal sample variation. For now I would’t read too much into it.”

      Oh, and while the first of those two polls, the ComRes poll, showed a reduced Labour lead it did not show any boost for the Tories: they were unchanged on 30%, while Labour shed 3% to go down to 32% and UKIP gained 4% to go up to 18%; taking it at face value, the Tories have not moved up closer to Labour, instead it is UKIP that has pulled Labour down closer to the Tories, and it’s not the first time that effect has been seen.

    • Chingford Man

      I once watched Cameron giving a speech when I was sitting 90 degrees to him, and he did have a very prominent nose. In side profile he reminded me of a pre-accident Michael Schumacher.

      • Fraser Bailey

        And there are those who might say that in terms of his political and governing faculties he reminds them of post-accident Michael Schumacher.

    • Wessex Man

      to say nothing of his bullying offensiveness.

  • goatmince

    Both parties lack momentum – no sherlock, Sherlock.
    The summer of discontent will in fact turn out to be a
    summer of clinical apathy.

    (yes, stick those house price rises where the sun don’t shine – did it save Blair? No!)

  • Makroon

    ‘Lord Glasman’, Labour’s very own version of Oakeshott has now hastily withdrawn his criticism and proclaimed Red the very best of all leaders in the best of all worlds.

    Very poor effort at a contrarian blog-post Isabel, in case you haven’t noticed, the economy has heaps of momentum (excellent construction PMIs this morning after good data for manufacturing yesterday). A heavy majority are content to see what Cameron can achieve with his negotiations,
    The mood out here in the ‘rest of the UK’ is quite sunny.
    Take a break – get out of Westminster.

    • southerner

      “A heavy majority are content to see what Cameron can achieve with his negotiations,”
      What is the basis for that assertion?

      • Fred Smith

        The percentage of people in polls who say they’d be happy to stay in the EU on renegotiated terms.

        I think the notion of substantially renegotiated terms for the UK and which go against the very purpose of the EU, is a complete and knowing fiction, but it sounds very reasonable and a lot fall for it.

        • Wessex Man

          erm, the Survation poll on Saturday showed 47% in favour of leaving, 39% in favour of staying and 14% don’t know.

          It alos showed the State of the parties which was Tory 36%, Labour 27%, UKip 22% and the Liberal Democrats on 7%.

          Either the Tories or Labour are going to have to make a deal with UKip to govern, lovey!!!!

          • Fred Smith

            There’s persistently been a large and decisive proportion in the polls who would stay in on revised terms. It rather depends how the question is framed.

            Kill the idea that any sensible reform is possible and the question polarises. With a feel-good but impossible reform and stay in option, the balance shifts to the majority wanting to stay in albeit on the basis of a fraud.

            Cameron’s referendum is supposed to be about staying in on revised terms (probably Wilsonian revised terms) or out. See the the revised terms as a spoonful of sugar to get the wishful thinkers to vote for in. He doesn’t intend it to be a referendum on staying in on current terms, or getting out.

            • Wessex Man

              That’s why it’s vital that everyone gets out there and votes UKip next year.

            • Conway

              I agree. I think Cameron was only unhappy about Juncker because his appointment will make it harder to spin that we can get what we want from the EU.

        • southerner

          Ah – opinion polls. Surveys designed to influence (not measure) opinion.

          So no basis at all then.

          You are quite right in your second paragraph. Only the deluded and / or the Camerloon sheep fall for this sort of thing.

  • Denis_Cooper

    Electoral Calculus has updated its charts for average opinion poll results:

    http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/polls.html

    and the Tories haven’t managed to move up closer to Labour over the past six months or so, with the gap at the end of June being 3.4%.

    It’s possible that Cameron’s antics over Juncker may give the Tories some boost –
    it’s too early to know for sure – but it has to be remembered that the Tories need
    to be at least 6% ahead of Labour to have a chance of getting an overall majority.

    In fact the recent trends have been three parties down – Labour, the Tories and
    the LibDems – with one party up – UKIP, on nearly 17% at the end of June.

    • telemachus

      The curves show red remains at the top
      The blue is again rocketing down

      • Inverted Meniscus

        World class dishonesty as ever.

    • Fred Smith

      IIRC, Cameron also had a boost from the veto that wasn’t a veto, but it didn’t last long and the truth dawned.

      It’ll be the same with this episode where he intended to be the hero who slew the plastic inflatable dragon of the Juncker nomination, and failing in that was presented as the intrepid crusader who stood up to Europe on some point of principle which remains nebulous.

      The big thing which comes out of the Juncker business is that it’s been shown that Cameron’s chances of getting anything by way of negotiations, even a Wilsonesque booby prize, are non-existent.

      The dismal fortunes of the LibDems and the rise of UKIP as well as two main parties with controversial leaders, make the next GE harder to predict. I wouldn’t be surprised were it a hung parliament.

      • Denis_Cooper

        That’s right, you can see that brief boost on the charts, when for a short period the Tories were on level pegging with Labour.

    • Wessex Man

      why on earth would Call me Dave’s ratings go up after such a public embarrassment at the hands of Merkal?

      • Denis_Cooper

        It’s all explained in this gushing Telegraph editorial:

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/10934657/David-Camerons-EU-reform-A-long-tough-campaign-and-the-right-one.html

        Apparently having our Prime Minister publicly humiliated on the international stage is “cathartic”, and most likely the response in
        this country will be “rapturous”.

        • Wessex Man

          what a strange world we now live in.

          • Denis_Cooper

            I think HookesLaw may have had a hand in designing it.

        • Conway

          Just as Clegg “won” the debates with Nigel. They really should get out more, stop talking to each other and engage with real people in the street.

  • David B

    Please restrict Tele’s postings to 1 per comments page

    • telemachus

      Free Speech

      • Smithersjones2013

        But Teletubby your noxious ravings are the best argument alongside one or two others there is for the abolition of free speech.

      • Kitty MLB

        I think you clandestinely perambulate these Spectator corridors
        to try and cause as much mischief as possible a dark force from
        the bowels of the Labour Party. Have you ever wandered the paths
        of Labour List.? Its rather odd how quickly to travel throughout this
        place there is no hiding from you.. you always find me.
        You’ll have plenty of free speech soon as you continue your decades
        in less then opposition.

        • Wessex Man

          Have you ever considered thay he could be the love child of Damien McBride and Harriett Harperson?

          • Andy

            Poor McPoison having to s*ag that harridan.

        • global city

          I reckon that Telemachus is actually Norman Tebbit.

          He’s bored so he’s taking the mick.

      • David B

        Oh Tele, the Left don’t practice free speech. I am still band from posting anything on LabourList, because I dared to make observations that did not follow the editorial line.

        • Kitty MLB

          Well I am a Conservative who not long ago was banned from the Conservative blog site for criticizing them for banning those
          who upset the applecart. I pointed out that this was against free speech, was not very Conservative and that I’ll tell
          George Osborne. They allowed me to post, but I cannot be bothered with all the policing and its like the Marie Celeste.
          The Spectator is excellent and very democratic.

          • Adam Carter

            The Spectator is not so great.
            I’ve been blocked, and had to change my account and take on this, false, name after I commented on an article Fraser Nelson wrote about Saeed Javid (sp ?).
            All I did was point out that Fraser was welcoming this man as a ‘great’ Culture Secretary before he had done anything at all.
            I wondered if such a positive article would have been written so soon about an indigene.
            The next time I tried to post under my own name I discovered I was blocked, not by Disqus, but by the Spectator. Cause and effect? Who knows?
            (I still comment under my other name at some other sites.)

          • Wessex Man

            It seems to me that you both are a little lost and feel a little abused, so why on earth don’t you join a decent party like UKip?

            • telemachus

              Nice try
              *
              But they are not racist

              • global city

                You grotesquely abuse the term… leaving those who suffer genuine racism defenceless.

                Why do you exploit immigrants and BAME so?

          • Lady Magdalene

            I was one of the first to be banned. I was too popular.

            • Kitty MLB

              Only a few seem to post their now, repeating
              themselves.Even Iain Moore and Saltire, saw
              a sticky end..but there you go.

        • jimB

          Too right, I’ve tried posting very considered comments many times on Lefty sites and every time they get blocked. Notice how they don’t use Disqus to give them more control over what is posted.

        • david trant

          I was banned from politicalbetting for nothing at all, apart from some mild criticism of its host, and I was banned from Conhome for I suspect upsetting Phibbs

      • global city

        Restricting that is always a leftist trick.

      • saffrin

        Yes we know, your lot banned it.
        Unless it inspires religious and or racial hatred, isn’t that right telemachus?

      • Inverted Meniscus

        Is something you hate song with democracy, ambition, private enterprise etc etc.

  • Amir
    • telemachus

      “What some people are saying is that this is an election that the Labour party should be winning because the coalition is unpopular”
      Yes
      So
      Game set and match
      As Nadal heard to his cost

      • Amir

        yes that’s right, I agree with you.

  • telemachus

    There is something else that worries Labourites, and that’s a sense that no-one quite has the momentum yet.
    Nonsense
    Labour are motoring
    ‘Things Can Only Get Better’ is as true today as in yesteryear
    *
    Cameron should worry instead about racist UKIP who will deliver 43 Tory marginals to Labour

    • telemachus

      Jon Snow put the last point forcibly and repeatedly to Farage yesterday and he ducked it

      • Makroon

        Farage being interviewed by Snow ?
        A good match, both could bore for England.
        Shows a certain desperation on both their parts.

        • Kitty MLB

          Ed Moribund should be interviewed constantly before next years election and must never leave the public gaze.
          Hopefully he will run away like a frightened rabbit.

        • Wessex Man

          ignore this troll it’s bad for you health.

    • Adam

      “Labour are motoring…Cameron should worry instead about racist UKIP who will deliver 43 Tory marginals to Labour”

      …so by your own acknowledgement it’s actually UKIP which are motoring? That was your point, right?

      • telemachus

        I guess it is the direction of motoring that is important

        • Adam

          Except it’s UKIP dictating that direction, you are simply being towed behind it.

          Hardly motoring is it?

      • HookesLaw

        All UKIP have to do for Tele to be doing somersaults is to poll enough to split the right and gift the election to Europhile labour led by crypto-marxist Miliband.
        Just how thick do you have to be not to recognise that?

        • Wessex Man

          I rather think that you Tories should be worrying about where you are going to be making alliances after the GE and should think about the the finer things in life and watch what you say about us.

          Then again, if the Scottish vote for independence the trolls that are the Labour Party will never get back into office!

        • Lady Magdalene

          It’s the LibCONs – Cameron and his buddies – who have split the Right.

      • Wessex Man

        ignore this slimy lying racist troll, it will onmly give you a headache trying to communicate with him.

      • Inverted Meniscus

        No because he is pointless.

    • Adam Carter

      There you are again about ‘racist UKIP’.
      I have challenged you before to enumerate UKIP’s ‘racist’ policies, because I assert that UKIP is not racist.
      You have never responded to my challenge.
      And yet you continue to peddle your lies.
      Most regular visitors to this site know about your lies.
      I hope my comment now will be seen by new, or infrequent. visitors.

      • Wessex Man

        There is absolutely no point in trying to get this creature to prove anything, he can’t, he’s nothing but a lying troll, just ignore the fool.

    • global city

      There you go, exploiting BAME people again.

      You should feel shame, but of course, you don’t really give a toss about them.

    • Andy

      We worry about the Fascist and Racist Labour Party.

    • Inverted Meniscus

      You really are absolutely desperate to destroy this country aren’t you. Why do you hate Britain so much. Why do you hate democracy and free speech?

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