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What should really worry Ed Miliband about today’s Guardian story

21 June 2014

11:15 AM

21 June 2014

11:15 AM

David Cameron has not had the best of weeks. At home, he is engaged in a mucky fight with the former government aide Dominic Cummings and abroad he is facing defeat in his attempt to stop Jean-Claude Juncker from becoming president of the European Commission. But in the papers today, it is Ed Miliband who has all the problems.

The Guardian splashes on how Labour frontbenchers do not want Miliband to stay on after an election defeat. If this story had appeared in almost any other paper, Miliband’s team could have tried to dismiss it as the price you pay for standing up to Rupert Murdoch or backing Leveson. But with The Guardian, this is much harder to do. Indeed, two members of the shadow Cabinet—Rachel Reeves and Chuka Umunna—have felt obliged to provide on the record quotes to try and damp the story down.

What must worry Labour is how hard media debate about Miliband is making it for anything he and Labour say to cut through. Miliband’s respnse to the Condition of Britain report has been largely overshadowed by the polling triple whammy that he has faced in the past few days with ICM saying he has worse personal ratings than Clegg, Ipsos-Mori that almost half of voters want him replaced as Labour leader and YouGov that more than half of voters don’t think he’s up to the job of being PM. If this is how things are going to be between now and the general election, then it is going to be a long ten months for the Labour leader.

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  • http://batman-news.com Whizjet

    The reality, however, is that the polls, the mathematics and the boundaries are still in his favour, and a small Labour majority remains the most likely outcome.

  • Mynydd

    We don’t need the Tory front bench, or the men in grey suits, to tell us what will happen to Mr Cameron when he looses the next election, we all know he’s sacked, just Major, Howard, IDS, Hague.

  • Call me TC

    I’m worried that it’s going to be an even longer 4 years with him as PM. I can see him leading a Coalition government, off the back of only 35% of the vote.

  • Frank

    Wiki states that Juncker’s dad fought in the Wehrmacht. This may explain why sunny-boy is so anti-British.

  • Pier66

    a lame duck leader: egg milliband….can a lame duck survive? yes
    if you get a friend like Ed Balls!!!

    • miford

      Just a shame neither of them have got any!

  • Pier66

    Our great Dave all have to do now is call an earlier ref to GO OUT FROM EURO SCUM, I can suggest the date 7 May 2015 so we can SAVE our country and a lot of money….
    YNWA AND TORY ALL THE WAY

  • Pier66

    see the pic…what a nice greek profile eh!
    what a leader is going to win next GE….could be 60% maybe more
    YNWA

  • HookesLaw

    Dominic who?

  • Kitty MLB

    Well of course he’s not upto the job of being First Minister to
    the Queen and it has nothing to do with him not being popular,
    photogenic or as they say ‘weird’ or anything to do with Rupert Murdoch.
    Ed Miliband should be within the hallowed halls of Oxford teaching. He is a vulture of a man, lays in wait for others to go
    wrong and scavenges over the bones.He has not managed
    to reconnect the Labour Party with its core class voters,
    he has no ideas and is hoping to become Prime Minister
    by default, the same way he became Leader.

    • telemachus

      Miliband is unimportant
      He is John the Baptist to The Charismatic One

    • Pier66

      And I am really happy with all that

  • fathomwest

    Like rats in a sack.
    However, Cameron does have an ace in that he has to say, if his protestations over Juncker are ignored, that he has no other option but to return to the United Kingdom and inform the British people that their wishes, as expressed in the recent EU elections, have been wilfully ignored. He will bring forward the referendum he has promised the people and he will now fight for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union. He must then stand up and leave.
    If the other countries still go ahead with Juncker they have effectively shown their index fingers at us all. But, I believe that there would be mayhem and Cameron could win the battle and in so doing reduce the power of Merkel.
    Has he got the bottle? I personally doubt it.

    • Aberrant_Apostrophe

      Dave may well hold all the aces, but on past form he will just fold. If and when he does, expect an immediate challenge to his leadership. If there isn’t, then the Tories are toast.

      • Daviejohn

        He would fold with a Royal Flush in his hand.

    • DaveTheRave

      And if the referendum is sooner rather than later (hope so), I would bet the results would actually show a majority in favour of leaving in England and UK wide… with the likelihood of the Scottish (if it remained in the UK) and Welsh results being much closer, if not a majority to stay in. That would make it interesting, if not contentious. One would assume that the whole ‘country’ would leave the EU and then if Scotland and Wales wanted to rejoin we would have to break up the Union if those two countries were insistent. Constitutionally this would be a potential nightmare for unionists. Thankfully, I am not one of them.

      • Wessex Man

        Nor am I, I would relish the situation you outline above Wales going would be an added bonus to me.

        • john king

          That’s a bit rude mate,I’m Welsh and I vote UKIP at any given opportunity.

      • Pier66

        about ref to go out eu will be show a majority in favour of leaving EU…could be 65% maybe more

      • fathomwest

        Dave, There was an interesting piece in the i yesterday where the First Minister of Wales is concerned that if Scotland votes for independence then England will want to go it alone, leaving Wales and Northern Ireland to flounder without the English exchequer keeping them safe and sound. So keep on Raving and, as the songs says, “Always look on the bright side of life”

        • DaveTheRave

          Yes, I think that’s why ‘Westminster’ won’t mention the name of England, except in a sporting context. Instead we get ‘our country’, or ‘Britain’. In other words, England to them for political reasons is the effective ‘Britain’ or ‘UK’. They think that because we are not a ‘minority’ they can treat us like second class citizens in what we though was our own country.
          As for Wales, well, look on the bright side here too – roughly same population as Uruguay and so could easily ‘go it alone’ but would probably want to be in the EU ‘fold’. And with Gareth Bale and Ramsey the making of a great team. Go for it.

          • LB

            And then you would have to support the benefit hotspots.

    • HookesLaw

      Wishes?
      73% of voters on a 34% turnout voted for parties that wanted to stay in the EU. In an election about the EU just some 4.3 million people voted for a party that wanted to leave the EU, this out of a voting population of some 46 million.
      Less than 10% of the population givn a chance voted to say they wanted to leave the EU.

      • DaveTheRave

        But it was ok in 2005 when New Labour got 35.2% vote share and 55% of the seats with 61.4% turn out? Mn.

      • southerner

        Yes that’s the one. The election where you Camerluvvies came third.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …good to see you’re finally accepting the LibLabCon formulation, lad. All you socialists should.

        • Smithersjones2013

          Indeed but there again Hooky like his master Dave has always danced to Labour’s tune……

      • Smithersjones2013

        Sadly though only 23% of the population voted for Dave’s ‘nowhere land’ position. Seems even less want withdrawal that the 30% or so voted for (you conveniently forget An Independence from Europe, English Democrats, Sinn Fein etc also want withdrawal).

        So on the basis of your argument LESS THAN 10% supports Dave’s ‘referendum tomorrow’ view of things. Yet another of Dave’s cunning plans gone up in smoke!

    • telemachus

      He will bring forward the referendum he has promised the people and he will now fight for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union.
      *
      In your dreams
      Cameron has neither spine nor stomach for such a fight
      At least Miliband is honest as to where he stands on Europe

      • Inverted Meniscus

        The very suggestion that Ed Miliband is honest is laughable. You will be saying that this preposterous, duplicitous, incompetent scumbag has principles next.

        • telemachus

          He is one of the most innocent people in politics
          *
          Tell me who would you trust Miliband or Smug NHS Hunt

          • Inverted Meniscus

            Hunt. Miliband is a preposterous, unprincipled scumbag similar to Balls.

            • telemachus

              No one can approach the cool charisma of Ed Balls, I grant

              • Inverted Meniscus

                The utter scumbag who designed the failed banking regulatory regime that precipitated the first bank failures in 150 years.

              • http://batman-news.com Whizjet

                I’ll have one of whatever you’re drinking, lol.

          • tjamesjones

            I just agreed with you effusively on some other thread Tele, but the labour front bench makes me sick. The worst hunt is the hypocrite tristram hunt who can’t believe a fraction of what he’s made to say. It’s hard to hate Ed Miliband, but easy to despise him.

            • telemachus

              Tristram is telegenic
              The rest of the front bench give me hope for the future
              The dynamic trio of Ed Balls, Andy and Yvette will drive the country back to greatness after next May

              • tjamesjones

                greatness, I don’t think. left wingers like balls may well be able to deliver enough of the electorate to get into power (handout beneficiaries, public servants, academics), but they have no moral right to govern this country because they don’t represent the productive sector, and the good soldiers who pay the taxes for their largesse. Is it possible to govern on behalf of the whole country? I think David Cameron at least is trying.

          • http://batman-news.com Whizjet

            Hunt.

  • Tom W Huxley

    Miliband’s ten months as a lame duck leader going into a general election he can’t win is not dissimilar from the path of the England football team over the next few days.

    • Aberrant_Apostrophe

      True, except for once Germany weren’t involved in England’s exit – and I’m talking about football here.

    • Pier66

      he can’t win now maybe next electio may 2020!
      you had to keep faith…like man ure can’t reach liverpool in champion league titles
      YNWA AND TORY ALL THE WAY

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