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1 June 2014

10:37 PM

1 June 2014

10:37 PM

Just over a week ago a gunman opened fire at the Jewish museum in Brussels. Four Jews – including two Israeli tourists – were killed, shot in the face and throat.

The Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said immediately after the killings, and before a suspect had even been identified:

This act of murder is the result of constant incitement against Jews and their state. Slander and lies against the State of Israel continue to be heard on European soil even as the crimes against humanity and acts of murder being perpetrated in our region are systematically ignored. Our response to this hypocrisy is to constantly state the truth.’

It looks like Netanyahu was right. Now, after eight days, a man in France called Mehdi Nemmouche has apparently claimed responsibility for the murders and been arrested. According to French police he was arrested with a Kalashnikov rifle and a handgun similar to those used in the attack. Mehdi Nemmouche is a French national who appears to have returned to France from fighting ‘jihad’ in Syria. If convicted of the crimes it would make Nemmouche the first returning jihadi from Syria to engage in acts of terrorism back home.

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The case is obviously developing but there are several points to make.

Firstly, there will be those who will claim that Mehdi Nammouche is a one-off. He is not. It is worth recalling, among other things, the case of French Muslim Mohamed Merah who two years ago went on a killing spree in Toulouse which targeted French soldiers and a Jewish school.

Doubtless there will also be those who will now say that if the West had intervened in Syria we would have been able to avoid the ‘radicalisation’ of people like Nemmouche. This is the purest ignorance. It is always worth remembering that a certain type of young Muslim claims that they were radicalised when the West intervenes somewhere and also when the West does not intervene somewhere. For instance some people may recall the case of the distinguished London School of Economics graduate Omar Sheikh, a British citizen who claimed to have been radicalised by the war in the Balkans among other things. Omar Sheikh was apparently not satisfied by the NATO intervention which stopped the massacre of Kosovar Muslims. Nor by the intervention to protect the holy sites of Islam from the armies of Saddam Hussein. In 2002 Omar Sheikh kidnapped and then cut the head off the Jewish American journalist Daniel Pearl.

Anyone who still doubts that the anti-Jewish aspect is a central driver for Islamic extremists might also recall the fact that the 2008 Mumbai terrorists, as well as targeting high-visibility targets like the Taj Hotel in Mumbai could not help themselves from entering the only tiny Jewish religious house in Mumbai, where they tortured and murdered a rabbi and his wife among others.

Why is this the case? The reason is an unpleasant but hard-to-deny fact which exists around the world, including in Europe and in Britain. As one prominent British Muslim left-wing journalist wrote only last year:

It pains me to have to admit this but anti-Semitism isn’t just tolerated in some sections of the British Muslim community; it’s routine and commonplace. Any Muslims reading this article – if they are honest with themselves – will know instantly what I am referring to. It’s our dirty little secret.’

Indeed. And this hatred, which is taught among Muslims in the UK and across Europe, is part of the reason why when a radical decides to go on a killing spree it is always Jews who are at the top of the target list. It is the point. They always come for the Jews.

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  • Miki Bacsi

    It will be a fine day in human history when the first European Caliph will put his finger on the button of the first nuclear bomb to send on some kafirs.

    https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/422752

  • sebastian2

    Excellent piece Douglas. But it won’t stop at Jews. Jews are targeted first because they resisted – and continue to – the alleged prophet mohammed. (Orthodox Jews – and probably others too – view muslims as “stone worshippers”.) We are also targets. At some point we, like the Jews, will have to resist too. I sense a growing appetite for this as frustration and disgust at appeasement gathers momentum.

  • justejudexultionis

    As a Christian I will defend my brother and sister Jews to the very end. The Islamic presence in Europe is now, as it ever was, undesirable and incompatible with basic democratic freedoms.

  • Donafugata

    During the 1930s Jews were persecuted in Germany and Austria on the pretext that they were trying to take over the world.

    Now Muslims really are hell-bent on global domination and the EU just encourages them.

    • Bill_der_Berg

      So what do you think of Western policies towards Kosovo and Saudi Arabia?

  • RichardBaranov

    It angers me that we are constantly being told that there is a rise in anti-Semitism in Europe, as if the native peoples of this continent were responsible. It angers me that the perpetrators are not named. And it angers me that our governments dissemble and feed us platitudes about who and what is the culprit. Our governments are cowardly and, unfortunately, until they have the courage to tackle the problem of Islam in our midst, innocent people will continue to die.

  • cromwell

    Religion, bloody religion.

  • Cymrugel

    The supposed “liberal” Tariq Ramadan has claimed that the two dead tourists were in fact Mossad agents – no doubt sacrificing themselves to get a bit of bad press on islam.

    How he knew this was not made clear.

    • RaymondDance

      “The supposed “liberal” Tariq Ramadan”

      It’s called Taqqiya.

  • Richard

    Tower Hamlets First must be the most successful anti-Semetic party in the history of UK politics.

  • Astrid Fernandez

    When the Islamic communities of Britain stop victimising others, while simultaneously claiming that their own victimisation, I’ll stand up for them. Until that day, I’ll protect stand up for the rights of the proud and beautiful British Jewish community, who in their tiny numbers have made an infinitely more meaningful contribution to our country and history.

  • Bill_der_Berg

    The historian Simon Schama has said that, historically, Jews under Muslim rule usually fared better than their co-religionists living under Christian rulers. Part of the explanation for this is that Christians regarded Jews as being responsible for the crucifixion.
    Of course, it is a generalisation and it does not alter the fact that Islam has been a religion of conquest and subjugation.

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      It also does not provide much of a standard to live up to, unfortunately.

      • Bill_der_Berg

        Now the fanatical muslim regime of Saudi Arabia are allies of the West, and Israel keenest supporters in the US are crazed Christian fundamentalists who want to hurry along the ‘Battle of Armageddon’.

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          You know very little about American Evangelicals who support Israel. Don’t feel too bad; many Americans are just as ignorant.

          • Bill_der_Berg

            No doubt you prefer to know as little as possible about them, for your own peace of mind.

            • ahad_ha_amoratsim

              It makes one less ignorant, not more, if one actually knows some Evangelicals.

              • Bill_der_Berg

                They believe that Biblical prophecies are a guide to the future. An irrational belief but it’s their own business if it does not affect other people. The problem is that they believe that US foreign policy should be based on that belief and use their influence accordingly.

    • Dave4321

      Instead of the inquisition, They had Mississippi in 1890. Not much comfort.

    • Leocrumb

      That is true, but under Islam Jewish life was very dependent on the particular leader/time period/country, This varied a lot. Much of the hostile attitude to Jews within Islam stems from a deep desire to replace the Jewish people. Mohammed was deeply offended when the Jews of Medina (it was a Jewish city at the time) rejected him as a prophet. As a result he slaughtered them and issued a decree on his death bed to wage war against them. This is where most of the anti-Semitic verses come from. The more tolerant versus towards Jews were all written prior to this event. This is why they did things like build a Mosque over the ruins of our temple in Jerusalem and retroactively rewrite history, ie “Jesus was a Palestinian” lol.

      • Bill_der_Berg

        Even within the Ottoman Empire, the tolerant attitude of the central authorities did not affect the behaviour of local rulers.

        As for muslim attitudes to other religions, I understand that Christian and Jews have some status as ‘Peoples of the Book’ unlike Hindus and Buddhists, hence the Taliban’s destruction of Buddhist statues.

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          Yes, as people of the book they are not forced to convert, but they are allowed to live only under the following conditions, among others, and they are subject to the death penalty for violating any of them:
          – Annual tax of 50% of their wealth.
          – Cannot testify against a Muslim.
          – Without specail permission (rarely granted), cannot build a new house of prayer or expand or repair an existing one.
          – Cannot publicly observe their festivals.
          – Cannot convert anyone to their faith.
          – A Muslim who kills them, or takes their property, or assaults them, is not guilty of a crime or liable for damages.
          – Cannot possess weapons and cannot raise a hand to a Muslim, even in self-defense.
          – Cannot have their head higher than a Muslim’s at any time.
          – Cannot ride on a horse, only on a donkey, lest they have their head higher than a Muslim’s.
          – Cannot have a building (even a house of worship) taller than the lowest Muslim building (even a shed). This is why many synagogues that were build under Muslim rule (including several in Jerusalem) are built partly underground.

          • Bill_der_Berg

            Yes, I’ve heard.

        • RichardBaranov

          You are correct. Buddhists and Hindus are labelled polytheists by Islam and must either convert or die. There is no ‘people of the book’ style protection for them. Because the great Buddhist centres were in the path of the Muslim hordes they were wiped out by Islam. It is the reason that Buddhism almost completely disappeared from India. The destruction of the great universities easily outstripped the burning of the library of Alexandria. The library of Nalanda burned for months it was so immense. In India, it is calculated, the religion of peace, murdered 80 million people altogether. 80 million, I repeat that so no one thinks it an ereror.

          • Bill_der_Berg

            That explains why Will Durrant the historian said that ‘The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history’.

            I once asked an Egyptian if he had been brought up to take pride in the Arab conquests. He lost his temper and started shouting about the French in Algeria. I took it that the answer was ‘Yes’.

    • Ted Cunterblast

      If true, this might provide some explanation for the Jewish cultural, political, social, economic, and demographic subversion of Western countries.

    • James Lovelace

      “The historian Simon Schama has said that, historically, Jews under Muslim rule usually fared better than their co-religionists living under Christian rulers. ”

      Bat Ye’or would argue that the truth was the absolute reverse. How come there were so many millions of jews in Europe in the 1930s? Where in the muslim world were there comparable numbers of jews? Nowhere. Yet there were jews in the Middle East and North Africa and Arabia before Mohammed was even born.

      http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Dhimmi-Christians-Under-Islam/dp/0838632629
      http://www.amazon.co.uk/Islam-Dhimmitude-Where-Civilizations-Collide/dp/0838639429
      http://www.amazon.co.uk/Decline-Eastern-Christianity-Under-Islam/dp/0838636888

      Academics in the west have been lying for decades. Just like they don’t talk about the millions upon millions who were taken as slaves by muslims. Only a tiny fraction of that number were ever taken to the US as slaves. The descendants of those enslaved Africans have millions of off-spring in the US. There is virtually no trace of the offspring of those many millions more who were enslaved and taken to muslim countries.

      • Bill_der_Berg

        “How come there were so many millions of jews in Europe in the 1930s?

        It’s not that surprising, given that economic growth in Europe gave rise to a large growth in population. European Jews would not have been excluded from that. There was no comparable developments in Muslim countries.

  • Leocrumb

    As an Israeli I am touched by the kind words of people on this site, and wish to express gratitude. These are dark days for us, our natural democratic allies in the West seem to be imploding from within. This very day the US administration has decided to acknowledge the unity government with Hamas as a part, (someone will have to explain to me how that is not illegal, considering they will continue to fund a terrorist organization, by their own definition.) I hope in Europe you find the resolve to claw your way out of your current morass, and find pride in your national identities. There is nothing sadder than watching a people commit hari-kiri and apologize for it, unable to express pride in their own identity due to the decades of self deprecating education, and a lack of belief in your own values. The world needs leadership right now to standup to and fight what is clearly the greatest threat to world peace, political Islamism.

    • anotherjoeblogs

      Todah rabah, Leo. I am touched that you are touched.

    • RaymondDance

      Hopefully the silent majority in Europe won’t stay silent until it’s too late, if it’s not already.

    • James Lovelace

      “As an Israeli I am touched by the kind words of people on this site, and wish to express gratitude. These are dark days for us, our natural democratic allies in the West seem to be imploding from within. ”

      A jewish friend of mine (not orthodox by any means) from London, took his wife and small children to live in Israel. He said he’d rather live in a country which admitted it had enemies, than one which lied about the enemies facing jews. When I visited Tel Aviv it was the first time in my life I’ve ever been in a city where I felt safe from casual violence. I’m not jewish.

    • sebastian2

      A very telling post. I’ve been both in Israel, and in certain mohammedan states (wahhabist – “real” muslims actually) that routinely blame Israel and the Jews for that whole region’s current turmoil – and for anything else they can think of. Any sensible person will know this is complete tripe. Israel is a better country by far. Arabs living in Israel enjoy much more than mohammedans living in, say, Syria or Iraq. In any case, this isn’t all about land as such and the poor, deprived palestinians (or Egyptians and Jordanians as they should properly be considered). It’s about Israel’s stubborn defiance of islam and the recovery of her ancient territory that mohammedans claim islamo-imperial juristiction over.
      Personally, I’d like to see the Christians and other faiths that islam also expelled or subjugated, return in force and reclaim, too, their former ancient homes right across the peninsula as far as the Persian Gulf.
      And finally Leo – Todah rabah also. Shabbat shalom.

  • BradD99

    Observation: There don’t seem to be any Arab or Muslim groups on the entire planet that openly call for peace with Israel.

    None.

    Anybody know of any?

    There seem to be tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian groups. I have not found a single one that actually calls for peace with Israel. And every “peace” solution I’ve seen from the pro-Palestinian side somehow erases Israel as a Jewish state, or calls for it to be dismantled/destroyed somehow.

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      Any Arab who publicly advocated actual peace with Israel would have a very short life span in most parts of the Arab world.

    • Leocrumb

      Jordan are the most friendly Arab nation towards Israel, they also have a lot to gain from a peace agreement as they have a demographic of 80% Arabs who consider themselves Palestinian (Jordan is basically the lions chunk of the old mandate.) Therefore the Hashemite rulers are worried that their people will claim Jordan should join any future Palestinian state. The is also part 2 of the Arafat’s stated 3 part PLO plan. This is specifically why Jordan relinquished any claim over the West Bank in 1994, they want to rid themselves of the problem. Jordan also worked with Israel in 1970 to eliminate Black September, and we have excellent diplomatic and business relations with them.

      • James Lovelace

        As some of my Kahanist friends say: “There is already a 2 state solution. Jordan is the Palestinian state”.

  • BradD99

    Israel’s neighbors are the most nutty, irrational lunatics on the planet.

    Have to respect Israel’s right to protect itself.

  • Andre Balan

    I will happily call Israel a country when it will have well defined borders-universally accepted and when it’s PM will stop invading other people’s land just so that he can have his Eretz Israel.Maybe this thing worked for the ancient empires but nowadays people tend to respond when they’re occupied and sadly enough innocent people end up paying for the consequences with their lives. In my view leaders, if they feel like playing the game of Great Conqueror should at least have the courage to play by the ancient rules: always the leader was in front of the attack line, not letting others to die for his oversized projects

    • BradD99

      Tell the repulsive violent nutjobs that surround Israel to stop calling for Israel’s destruction. Tell them to agree to a permanent peace with Israel. And to act on it. Because then Israel can be the perfect flawless place its critics demand.

      Until then, the right of Israel to protect itself from deranged jihadists has to be respected.

      • Andre Balan

        you should not call people repulsive…that is right wing extremism exactly the type that the Nazis (that my grandfather fled from…even if he was German) used to fuel one of the biggest massacres in history. In the mean time you cannot occupy a piece of land just because you were there 2000+ years ago and expect that people inhabiting it for those millenia will just play nice! Every conqueror paid the price: the Romans did, so did the Germans ( look at Italy and Germany nowadays as mere specks on the map compared to what they used to be) and so will Israel! Why? Because people are stubborn in their convictions and tend to do what they wish…it’s the principle of liberty…that works in this case against the occupier.Never mind that everybody will feel sorry for them and help them out, like they did with Israel at the beginning. Everybody likes an underdog! When this one grows strong teeth than it becomes a nuisance and then a threat! And yes, Obama is not a friend of Israel (even if he continues in saying so) because it’s easier to be glorified by poor people than get schooled by someone (like the PM)

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          You are not as different from the repulsive people that your father fled as you might like to imagine. And your distortions of history and current events would do them credit.

        • Hexhamgeezer

          Germany and Italy ‘mere specks on a map compared to what they used to be’? By ‘everybody will fell sorry for them’ I presume you mean everybody but the Left and the entire mu$l!m world?

          You need a new atlas………and history book. Every offer the Israleis have made to withdraw or renegotiate borders has been refused.

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      Any time Israel has invaded was in response to acts of war committed against it; in several cases, those acts of war were preceded or accompanied by sincere threats of genocide by the Arabs. And the lack of defined borders is because its neighbors steadfastly refuse to negotiate any.

      • Andre Balan

        you’re right about the ‘threats’…they were simple threats though…while the IDF didn’t just bother to validate them…they just went and took! I would be the king of hipocrits to state that that was wrong for the IDF’ cause like I said before in my post EVERY country who became an empire did just that! ‘Still they ALL paid (and some still pay) the price of invasion. US lost the Vietnam war this way, and many golden star banners are still displayed proudly by the parents which lost their child’ Was it worth it ? Not my place to venture an answer! Was all the bloodshed that come with it worth the invasion of that Gaza strip ? You could state better than me on that subject!

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          They were more than just threats, as the Arabs showed in 1948 when they massacred Jews who surrendered to them. Egypt expelled UN observers from the Sinai. Egypt and Syria massed troops on Israel’s borders, and Egypt blockaded Israel’s shipping. Israel begged Jordan to stay out of the war and Jordan invaded, suffering the loss of territory it had illegal annexed after the 1948 war. Your knowledge if history is sadly lacking, and anyone who says Israel is seeking an empire rather than just wanting to be left in peace is either delusional, ignorant or lying.

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          The bloodshed of invading Gaza was not worth it only insofar as it would have been unnecessary if Israel had not turned Gaza over to the genocidists, and insofar as Israel did not take advantage of the situation to render the genocidists incapable of further attacks. Funny how when the genocidists use their own people’s children as human shields the world is indignant at Israel when the children are killed in the crossfire, but the world does not care when the genocidists aim rockets at Jewish kindergartners on their way to school.
          Or when Palestinian children are murdered by other Arabs.

    • Augustus

      Zionism was created precisely to allow Jewish communities facing adversity and anti-Semitism to come to Palestine and help build it. Palestinian Arabs have used psychological warfare, which began the day Yasser Arafat and his cronies were allowed to set foot on Israeli soil. Arafat realized that he could not fight Israel head-on so he adopted the method of scaring his enemy until they cracked from the desire for self-preservation. Israel should take its fate into its own hands by relying on the exclusive right of sovereignty granted to it by international law. It should remove the Palestinian Authority from Judea and Samaria and apply Israeli law there. It could gradually grant citizenship to all residents who wish to reside there and are not involved in terrorism. and it should simply establish the Jordan River as its Eastern border.

  • Curnonsky

    Should be “FIRST, They Come For the Jews”…

  • Michael H Kenyon

    So far, so good. Whenever this sort of topic comes up on Taki’s mag elsewhere, various monomaniacal cranks, window-lickers and bogey-eaters start coming out with anti-Semitic nonsense which reminds me that many Americans wouldn’t mind the Taliban if they were Christian.

  • sarahsmith232

    Don’t think the way that minorities will always seize on our not intervening in some god forsaken, far flung, tiny little conflict that has zero to do with us as evidence of – insert persecution complex of your choosing, is really being noticed. Syria has been throwing them all up left, right and centre – ‘you didn’t intervene, this is because you don’t care, you don’t care because you hate muslims’. Nigeria’s been getting them all going – ‘you didn’t intervene, this is because you don’t care, you don’t care because you’re racist’. (Also can add the – ‘it wasn’t reported, this is because you don’t care, the reason why you don’t care is because you’re all racist). Bosnia in the 90’s was setting them all off – ‘you didn’t intervene. . . .well, at least, not straight away, this is because you don’t care, the reason why you don’t care is because you hate muslims’.
    Personally, I’ve been totting them up over about the last 18months or so, it never stops, doesn’t matter which little nothing bit of a country it is, if there’s been some conflict taking place somewhere then they’ll be a minority popping up in the Question Time audience or some other place doing their ‘you could have intervened but you didn’t care’ routine.
    Douglas Murray will not like what I’m about to write but the best e.g of how foamingly irrational and self-righteous this can become is from the BBC documentary ‘The Story of the Jews’. Simon Schama giving it some welly doing the exact same routine over historical persecution of the Jews and the way that we didn’t intervene.
    If a person can tick a minority box then most don’t seem to be able to resist the allure of an identity that uses ‘victim of the uneducated, unenlightened, ignorant masses’ as it’s solidarity forming, ego massaging jumping off point. Check Abbott every time she gets going about ‘The Imperialist White’. It’s the only way she can understand herself, it’s the only way she can understand her worth, as crusader battling the backward. So they have to invest in it, constantly seeking out new ways to see themselves as victim of the white barbarian. Our un-free, Left dominated TV media is only too happy to encourage this, legitimizing it, effectively sanctifying it. It’s become a new national myth which they’re treating as their non-white, shared national history.
    This isn’t being recognised, it isn’t being commented on, it really needs to be addressed but there doesn’t appear to be anyone out there that’s even noticing it.

  • Augustus

    In how many capitals of Europe, one wonders, is Mohammed now the most common name given to babies? I can think of at least two: Amsterdam and Brussels. No wonder the Muslim threat has returned to the continent after 1400 years. And Jihadist fighters today are European citizens hitting Europe from the inside. We can also assume that Nemmouche will become a hero to many Muslim youngsters and inspire others to take similar actions against Jews elsewhere. It’s about time that Europe urgently re-examine its failed immigration policies which have brought this jihadist terrorism into our midst.

    • FrenchNewsonlin

      “Nemmouche will become a hero to many Muslim youngsters…” Rest assured he already is on Twitter where his murderous actions have received fulsome praise and support. The fact that he is a repeat offender with a criminal record as long as your arm seems to be of no consequence to some twitterers. His lawyer was on French Twitter claiming the thug had been radicalised in prison. Marine le Pen’s retort on French radio was that when she takes power there will be special prisons for the ‘radicalised’ and those who do the ‘radicalising’ and in the meanwhile she demanded France reimpose border controls. Is common sense making a comeback?

      • Augustus

        Good for her! ‘ Is common sense making a comeback?’

        I don’t know. What I do know is that Islam is locked in a millennial conflict with the West. Waging war, engaging in diplomacy, signing treaties, maintaining or breaking truces are merely means in the pursuit of the end that Islamist doctrine prescribes. Extremist politics in action under the guise of a religion. Islamists have mastered the art of exploiting the West’s niceties to their advantage. And Jews are left with no choice but to act with wisdom and courage in doing whatever is necessary for survival. But instead of resolutely supporting them, and the State of Israel, many in the West have parked their discredited anti-Semitism inside those shiny new mosques in order to cowardly appease the Islamists.

  • honeybee

    And you Brits mock Texans for caring guns????????

    • EHGombrich

      But just imagine all the banlieus in France getting weapons. Oy vey.

  • tolpuddle1

    Worried about Moslem extremism against Jews ?

    Try solving the Israel-Palestine dispute.

    • The Masked Marvel

      That’s right, tolpuddle1. Blame the victims. It gets a little tiresome when people see Jews everywhere in the world as being fair game, yet won’t say that all Muslims everywhere are legitimate targets in retaliation for whatever others get up to.

      Douglas Murray got it only half right. They always come for the Jews, and then they always blames the Jews for it.

      • ahad_ha_amoratsim

        And plenty of others then climb on board and join them in blaming the Jews.

      • tolpuddle1

        Blame ? No, I was just stating an obvious truth.

        In any case, DM’s comparison of the Israelis (backed by the USA, armed to the teeth, the Middle East’s superpower) to the friendless and defenceless European Jews attacked by the Nazis, is an absurd one.

        • The Masked Marvel

          But Murray did not make such a comparison at all. You invented that out of whole cloth. If anything, he was comparing the friendless and defenseless European Jews attacked by the Nazis with the friendless and defenseless European Jews of today being attacked by various Muslims living in Europe (and demonized by an increasing number of Europeans and British).

          Please don’t pretend blame isn’t being assigned here, either. Your comments elsewhere about Israel being restitution paid to the Jews at the expense of the Palestinians (who didn’t exist in 1948) gave the game away.

          • tolpuddle1

            “The Palestinians didn’t exist in 1948.”

            The absurdest lie I’ve ever read.

            • The Masked Marvel

              Well, in 1947, both Jews and Arabs living under the British Mandate there were technically called “Palestinians”, if that’s what you mean. But I bet that’s not what you meant at all.

              It might be simpler if you just admit your belief that, among all peoples in the world, Jews should not be permitted to control a portion of their ancestral homeland or to worship inside the grounds of their only actual holy site. Then we won’t have to play these word games.

              • tolpuddle1

                I wasn’t opposing Zionism, so there is no belief for me to “admit.”

                But while Israel maintains a hardline stance and its settlements continue to expand, there will be no Peace.

                And the tension will continue.

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          So you’re okay with Jews defending themselves as long as they’re unarmed and defensless? But I thought you said that Israel makes it okay to kill any Jew anywhere. Or something.
          Or are you saying it’s not sporting to kill a friendless and defenseless Jew but it’s okay to kill an unarmed Jew in a museum if Israel’s army is stronger than you like?
          Or are you saying it was wrong for Nazis to kill Jews but okay for anyone who has fought in Syria?
          Now my head is spinning.

          But I can still think more clearly than you can on your best day, troll.

          • tolpuddle1

            You are putting words and sentiments into my mouth that I neither expressed nor hold.

            Is this a wild confusion (or hysteria) on your part, or simply intellectual dishonesty ?

            • ahad_ha_amoratsim

              I am trying to make sense of your posts and am not having much success at it.

    • al-kafir al-yahudi

      So, targeting all muslims anywhere in the world for 9/11, 3/11, 7/7, Nigeria, Sudan, India, Beslan, etc. is OK, according to your logic…

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      Yeah, that would certainly explain the forced conversions, rape, wholesale murder, confiscation of property, expulsions, lack of access to courts, destruction of synagogues, and other oppression of Jews by Muslims during the 12 centuries before there was a state of Israel.

      • tolpuddle1

        You are making the Palestinians guilty of all the wrongs done by Moslems to Jews over the centuries by individuals almost all now dead.

        Isn’t that called scapegoating ?

        And how does it excuse the wrongs committed by the Israeli Right / Settlers ?

    • BradD99

      Muslim extremism against Jews is exactly what the Israel-Palestine dispute is.

      The Palestinians and their supporters refuse to even “normalize relations” with Israel, let alone promoting peace with Israel.

      Any “peace” proposal from the Palestinian side has included the “right” to flood millions of Palestinians into Israel specifically to erase Israel as a Jewish state to make it another Arab state.

      • tolpuddle1

        Two wrongs don’t make a right. Palestinian faults don’t excuse the Israeli land-grab, which is the root of the problem.

        • mohdanga

          Was Israel ‘grabbing land’ back in 1948 when it came into existence under the auspices of the UN, then was attacked on that very first day?

          • ahad_ha_amoratsim

            Sure it was. Don’t you realize that anything a Jew buys or earns was by definition stolen from someone else? Jews paid top dollar for land that no one else wanted? Big deal — they’re Jews!

        • mightymark

          For many, if not most, Palestinians and their supporters Israel is iself a “land grab”. That is why there is no peace. Nothing to do with “settlements”. It is the fundamental and not unreasonable conviction of the Israelis that the Palestinians and their wealthy and influential band of backers want there to be no Israel. Until that belief changes the Israelis will continue to elect relatively hardline governments and will be no peace agreement. How ever in the circumstances could there be?

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      The Israel-Palestine dispute — you mean the ongoing and blood thirsty refusal of the Arab world to allow the Jewish people to exercise self-rule, regardless of the size of the state and regardless of where it’s borders are?

      • tolpuddle1

        Or the Israeli Right’s fanatic determination to grab all the land in dispute.

        The Western Right is determined to make reparation to the Jews for the wrongs they suffered in Europe – but not (needless to say ! ) at their OWN expense, but at that of the Palestinians.

        • mohdanga

          Umm, didn’t Israel give Gaza back to the Palestinians, who then trashed the place?

          • ahad_ha_amoratsim

            And didn’t they offer the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians a state in over 90% of the land they claim to want, with additional land tossed in from within the Green Line?
            And didn’t they withdraw from the Sinai, including its gas wells, in return for a peace treaty with Egypt that the Egyptians have never kept in full, and gone so far as to demolish Taba at Egypt’s request before the handover?
            And doesn’t tolpuddle have a histroy of churning out out lie after lie, and justifying people who murder Jews for the crime of being Jews?

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          Q. When are the Arabs going to pay reparation for the centruies of wrongs the Jews suffered in the Middle East and North Africa?
          A. (as answered by tolpuddle) – the Jews had it coming because of the future misdeeds of the dreaded Israeli Right.

          • tolpuddle1

            Zionism is a response to the wrongs suffered by Jews in Europe. It seems a bit hard, to put it politely, that the Palestinians are having to foot the bill.

            There is great harmony between the Israeli Right (who are indeed dreadful) and the Western Right (regardless of ethnicity, I hasten to add !). Both are monstrously greedy and selfish. Both have a passionate longing to inflict Injustice on others.

            But the main similarities between Rightists in general and the Israeli Right, are that both suffer from Superiority Complexes and both suffer from the groundless delusion that they are good, indeed righteous, people.

  • EHGombrich

    I know Neoconservatives like Mr Murray think we ought to fight every war for the jewish state and the jewish people. But let´s not kid ourselves, most Jews are fervent multi-culturalists that favor mass immigration in every country, vote overwhelmingly Democrat and consider Conservatives or Republicans to be fly-over people.
    So, as a conservative, I think what happend in Brussels is a great pity, but I must admit, I don´t think I will get too riled up about it

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      Yeah, the Jews always bring on themselves, right, EH? Every damn one of them is a pacifist multiculturalist. Then again, every damn one of them is a neocon who wants to manuver others into fighting wars for Jewish benefit.
      Wait a minute — I’m confused now. Which one is it?

      • EHGombrich

        Your emotions seem to get in the way of your argument. Nobody is claiming that every Jew is a multiculturalist. The brave Eric Zemmour in France for example isn´t. But close to 80% of the jewish vote went to the Democrats and their multiculturalist hero Obama. And 80% is an overwhelming majority. Only blacks voted in higher numbers for Obama.
        I also didn´t say Jews were Neoconservatives, although many of the few jewsih Republicans there are happen to be Neocons. I said Douglas Murray was a Neoconservative which is ture. He wants to fight the wars of the jewish state just as badly as all these Irish guys on FoxNews.

        • jjjj

          No, of course you don’t have emotions that’s why you won’t be doing the actual killing. But you will shed tears of joy next time some patsy goes on a murder spree.

    • BradD99

      Every Western European country is led mostly by Christians/Catholics.

      “Jews” aren’t making them do anything.

      • EHGombrich

        And? Nobody claimed otherwise.

    • mohdanga

      “But let´s not kid ourselves, most Jews are fervent multi-culturalists that favor mass immigration in every country,…”. Why would Jews support mass immigration when the vast majority of these enrichers are Muslims intent on destroying them?

  • Robertus Maximus

    I have no adequate words to describe the F***ing B’s in government who facilitated – and in Blair’s case enthusiastically and cynically encouraged – these cultural neanderthals to arrive on our shores from the Islamic world.

  • Wasp

    Jew are routinely killed by Muslims, not so much because of their hatred of the state of Israel (which provides them with another excuse for their barbarity) but more because they hate all Jews. And Christians, and Hindus, and Buddhists and pagans and just about anybody who is not Muslim. And even the different Muslim sects hate each other. Sunnis hate Shia, Shia hate Sunnis and both combine to hate and attack Amadiyyah.

    Of course, Western politicians, church leaders and judiciary try to convince us that Islam is misunderstood, but then there are a lot places around the world where Islam is misunderstood. Such as these where those who misunderstand Islam have been the victims of Muslim resentment at being misunderstood”

    Where Islam is “Misunderstood”
    For some very odd reason, the perfect religion of Islam is routinely “misunderstood” each and every day.

    Since 9/11, terrorism in the name of Allah occurs in:

    India and the Sudan and Algeria and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Morocco and Yemen and Arkansas and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Georgia and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Illinois and Australia and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East
    Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and the Netherlands and Afghanistan and Chad and Canada and China and Nepal and the Maldives and Argentina and Mali and Angola and the Ukraine and Uganda and North Carolina
    and Germany and Arizona and Lebanon and Iran and Kazakhstan and Sweden and Azerbaijan and Iraq and Scotland and Macedonia and Bulgaria and
    Cameroon and Massachusetts and Djibouti
    and……and pretty much wherever Islam is taken seriously:

    “O ye who believe! Fight those of the
    disbelievers who
    are near to you, and let them find
    harshness in you,
    and know that Allah is with those
    who keep their duty”
    Qur’an, Sura
    9:123

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    And to find the evidence for the inherent hatred in Muslims, look no further than their holy book of incitement to religious and racial hatred and murder.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm

  • andy_gill

    Islamic anti-semitism will continue to flourish in Europe as long as the establishment deny it exists.

    The left-wing Guardianistas who run academia and the media collude to hide the festering sore of anti-semtism in the Muslim community because it suits their anti-Zionist/anti-American agenda.

    They make me sick with their vilification of Israel and their faux anti-racism which they use to justify and excuse the IslamoNazis.

  • Liberty

    The only good thing about this is that such atrocities make Muslims leave the faith http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm as Islam means poverty, ignorance and barbarism.

    • tolpuddle1

      So why do we support hard-line Islam by backing Saudi and buying its oil ?

  • Nick

    “National Brotherhood Week” by Tom Lehrer:

    Oh the Protestants hate the Catholics
    And the Catholics hate the Protestants
    And the Hindus hate the Moslems
    And everybody hates the Jews

  • zanzamander

    ‘It pains me to have to admit this but anti-Semitism isn’t just tolerated in some sections of the British Muslim community; it’s routine and commonplace.

    But you’re still not telling the whole truth, Douglas.

    Why do some Muslims hate Jews so much? I mean there is no Jew left in Pakistan to speak of, still the Jews get targeted by Pakistani terrorists, hardliners and religious nutters. I suspect the same in Malaysia, Indonesia etc. where anti-Semitism is rampant. They may not be reading much but Hitler’s racist tome “Mein Kampf” is consistently a best seller in the Islamic world. Why?

    This has nothing to do with the creation of Israel. This Jew hate predates this all the way back to the time of creation of Islam.

    The answer lies in the teachings of Islam where Mohammad made Jews enemy number one for Islam. Islam reserves some of the most hateful vitriol and punishments for Jews and this is being taught througout the Islamic world (and here) as part of their religious teachings..

    Although both have common friends and are allies, European/Christian Anti-Semitism cannot be equated with Islamic Anti-Semitism. And until and unless we do not confront the hard realities we will forever live in the dark.

    • Tom M

      Why do some Muslims hate Jews so much?
      I seem to remember reading in the Koran that they are a bit miffed that the Jews had lost the Ark of the Covenant and consequently forever damned. So I suppose there is no way back for them unless they find it.

      • roger

        I thought the originator of islam picked up most of the ideas for his religion from Jews he used to work with (for?) on the trade route to Palestine, a lot of people like to forget that.

      • James Lovelace

        One could argue Mohammed hated pagans more than jews. He wiped out both the pagans and the jews of Arabia. The jews have survived elsewhere; that paganism did not survive.

        Christians and jews under islamic subjugation are at least treated as 3rd class citizens. Pagans, atheists, buddhists, hindus are only fit to be killed or to be slaves under islamic doctrine. Those who know about the muslim massacres of Hindus in India count it as the most atrocious genocide in the history of the world.

  • Hippograd

    It is always worth remembering that a certain type of young Muslim
    claims that they were radicalised when the West intervenes somewhere and
    also when the West does not intervene somewhere.

    Then the obvious solution is not to let Muslims immigrate into the west. And that is exactly what the white majority of every nation enriched by mass immigration wanted. Unfortunately, our rulers ignored the will of the majority. And one group has been fully in support of mass immigration, even (or especially) by Muslims. But you won’t see the Board of Deputies or the Chief Rabbi pointing out that mass immigration by Muslims was a very stupid thing for Jews to support. Instead, they call for a strengthening of the police state and of the thought-crime laws that are another direct consequence of mass immigration.

    • patrickirish

      You are completely correct, the author of the bizarre change to British immigration laws under Blair is Jewish, they promote easy asylum and open borders. Why?
      Is the result not obvious?

      • tolpuddle1

        If you want Capitalism, you want (even if you don’t like) mass-immigration.

  • MC73

    Who hates Jews? (Almost all) Muslims, a substantial proportion on the British left (although it’s Zionism they hate honest), the far right (the real far right, not UKIP), conspiracy theorists and tinfoil hatters etc. It’s almost as if all the least desirable elements of Western society have decided to make it nice and easy for us to identify them.

    I appreciate that this is cold comfort if you are Jewish…

    • MikeF

      ” it’s Zionism they hate honest” – is it? Perhaps what they hate about Jews is the fact that they form a group in society that retains a sense of its identity independently of the left is not prepared to become a puppet of the left in its strategy of segmentation and factionalism.

      • patrickirish

        You are trying to say that Muslim hatred of Jews is rational. It is not rational. You cannot explain or justify it.

        • MikeF

          If you look at the previous post you will see that it is the secular left not Muslims to which I am referring. Socialist anti-semitism is certainly irrational but irrational in pursuit of quite specific and deliberate objectives.

          • EHGombrich

            Socialist anti-semitism, is not irrational at all. It´s the logical consequence of an ideology that has materialism at its center. The jewish people are successful not because of their race or their culture since to a socialist race is a social construct and every culture is equal. To a socialist Jews are successful because they must have taken something from someone else, in the case of Israel from the Palestinians. It´s quite rational actually.

            • MikeF

              But socialism today does not have materialism at its core – arguably it never really did. Instead it is increasingly revealed as a cult of self-regard the purpose of which is the continuous reinforcement of and vindication of its adherents’ estimation of themselves. Any group that remains distinct and independent of the socialist impulse to destroy anything they cannot subvert attracts their enmity because of the threat it carries to the socialists’ idea that they represent human perfectability.

            • al-kafir al-yahudi

              then explain European medieval Jew-hatred, please, when the Jews had nothing and still were pogrom-ed into submission.

              • roger

                They were ‘the other’, the scapegoat for any social problem, as always.

              • Cheradenine

                The Jews had nothing? On the contrary, they were extremely wealthy and enjoyed privileges no one else had. Where were they pogromed into submission? In general, they were protected by elites. The Jews often collaborated with foreign armies attacking Christians, as with their support for the Muslim invasion of Spain. Europeans heard about this and reacted to it.

                • al-kafir al-yahudi

                  so much BS in one post…

              • James Lovelace

                “then explain European medieval Jew-hatred, please, when the Jews had nothing and still were pogrom-ed into submission.”

                One word: islam.

                The first pogroms of jews on European soil happened in Spain in the 11th century. At that time, Spain was under the control of muslims. Christians in Europe acquired the mass-killing of jews from muslims.

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Spain

                Just as Christians in Europe turned to slave-taking, heresy trials, and Holy War in response to these things being used by islam to extend its dominion. The Atlantic slave-trade also arose in Spain, after that country had been islamised for 700 years.

        • roger

          Any dislike of a ‘group’ as opposed to an individual is not rational. I dislike Netanyahu for his policies but not all the people who live in Palestine (1920 Palestine area).

        • Cheradenine

          I don’t hate Jews. I do, however, see them as a baneful influence on our society because of their relentless support for replacement-level immigration. I despise their hypocrisy in promoting anti-nationalism as a moral ideal in other people’s countries, while pursuing a ruthless ethnonationalism within their own. My feelings about them are driven entirely by a rational analysis of their actions, actions that are harming my interests and those of other non-Jews. As such, they are entirely rational. However, any criticism of the conduct of Jews is immediately classified as being motivated by an irrational hatred.

          • Leocrumb

            This is hysterical 🙂 “I don’t irrationally hate Jews, I have rational reasons for my hatred of them.” By the way this was EXACTLY the reasoning Hitler uses in “Mein Kampf.” You are a buffoon.

          • ahad_ha_amoratsim

            In other words, because soome Jews have done things you don’t like, you see all Jews as a danger to our society who, out of purely rational motives, must be eliminated.
            That’s okay, then, I guess, so long as you are not driven by irrational hatred. As a German physician answered when asked how an educated man like himself could so enthusiastically participate in exterminating the Jews of Europe, he would not hesitate to amputate a cancerous limb in order to save the whole body. Good to know that you are rational.

      • cba

        MikeF, I read that phrase as sarcastic.

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          So did I. Being good progressives, they cannot admit to themselves or others that they engage in ethnic hatred, so they need to claim it is something else.

        • MikeF

          Fair enough – we all see life in different ways. Shalom.

  • artemis in france

    Thank you, Douglas. I have had many Jewish friends over the years and find it inexplicable that thèse people are targeted by anyone. Here in France there is latent anti-semitism but I’ve never met anyone who admits to it. Perhaps I’ve just been lucky. I have no Muslim friends, so that might be one reason, but the hatred goes much deeper than that. Is it historical envy? After all Jews were once seen as money-lenders and bankers and nothing else at all. So many successful people are Jews because their culture approves of good education and ambition. Even the most fundamental of Jews – around Stamford Hill they abounded when I lived in London – threaten nobody with violence and merely wish to live their lives peacefully and discreetly. It is a mystèry to me and to many others. Right-thinking people should never stop defending the right of Jews to be what they are. That many of them do a lot to improve the général mood with their self-deprecating and subtile humour is another very good reason for defending them.

    • MikeF

      ” I have had many Jewish friends over the years and find it inexplicable that thèse people are targeted by anyone.” You don’t have to ‘do’ or ‘say’ anything to be the target of the neo-fascist left. They target people because of what and who those people are – nothing else. They literally cannot tolerate the existence of those they decide their authoritarian-narcissist worldview means they should dislike.

      • EHGombrich

        And yet the overwhelming majority of the Jews vote for the Left.

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          And therefore apparently every Jew everywhere deserves whatever he gets for being Jewish.

        • Daidragon

          Rule number one of the Speccie loons is that EVERYTHING they don’t like MUST be left wing. They probably think Ed Miliband is anti semitic.

          • monty61

            LOL. But very true.

  • rtj1211

    ‘They’ i.e. murderers, come for anyone who they hate.

    it’s just that the Jewish lobby has a far greater leverage over the Western Press, so that when ‘they’ come for the Jews, then we all hear about it.

    The Americans ‘come for the Muslims’ of Pakistan, Iraq etc etc. They don’t ‘come’ for anyone in particular, they just bomb using drone strikes and whoever is in way is a nameless, faceless statistic. Are those people less worthy than the Jews, just because they live in rural Pakistan rather than in a seat of western power??

    The EU and the Americans, via their proxy Ukrainian vassals are ‘coming for the ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine’ right now. Rather than branding those victims, they are called ‘terrorists’. They aren’t, but because they are ‘Russian’, they can be ‘come for’ right now.

    I really, really wish we would stop calling the Jews ‘special’. None of us alive had anything to do with the Holocaust, but the world must move on from regarding the Jews as a special case. They deserve the same rights as everyone else, be they gay, moderate Muslim, Christian in Syria, women in Afghanistan, blacks in Russia, socialists in America etc etc etc.

    But they don’t deserve anything more than that.

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      So in an article discussing people who murder Jews for being Jewish, you tell us that this was simply a routine street crime, and that you don’t hate Jews, you just resent (a) their talking about the murder of 1/3 of their population by Europe in the mid 20th century, and the extermination of their culture from Europe, (b) their exaggerated leverage over the press, (c) they consider themselves special, and (d) they get other people to fall for the idea that Jews are special..

      Thanks for clarifying all that for us.

    • Resist_We_Much_10

      Well, the followers of Hajj Amin al-Husseini had everything to do with the Holocaust. And of course, after the “Palestinian” people had exterminated European Jewry, they worked hard to ethnically cleanse the dar al-Mohammedan.

      So, yes, every “Palestinian” is directly responsible for the crimes of the Nazis and Communists. Every “Palestinian” bears full moral culpability for the crimes being committed daily in their names in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Nigeria.

  • Adam Braun

    Thats hilarious! I thought it was a French Skinhead, everybody hates the Jews.

    • Hexhamgeezer

      Didn’t realise Eva’d had kids.

  • Cooper1992

    Can I just say to anyone who is Jewish and reading this, or to anyone in Israel – that I for one will ALWAYS support your freedom and self-determination.

    It DISGUSTS me that Israel and the Jews are treated that way they are now due to the immigration of millions of intolerant medieval Muslims. The way the Left in particular spew their anti-semitism in support of these Muslims is disgraceful.

    Unfortunately I feel that in the future if WE are not loud enough than governments across Europe will be scared into turning a blind eye on Jews in France and the Netherlands getting slaughtered, and Israel getting attacked.

    I hope that upon the announcement of their foreign policy later this year, that UKIP reiterate their full support of our natural allies and modern democratic partners Israel and that UKIP will stand up to Muslim and Left-Wing turpitude.

  • Jabez Foodbotham

    Mehdi Nemmouche is a French national who appears to have returned to France from fighting ‘jihad’ in Syria.

    A start might be made on the local situation if countries like France or Britain did not offer an open door to residence or citizenship for persons like M. Nemmouche or his parents via lax immigration or refugees definition regulations. I’m sure there are plenty more like him in the pipeline, including our own ‘citizens’, and they ain’t just a menace to Jews.

  • Laguna Beach Fogey

    They will always come for the Jews–because for some odd reason the Jews keep letting them settle in our countries.

    My message to Jewish mass immigrationists is to allow France, Britain, Europe, and America adopt the same strict immigration and border policy currently employed by Israel, and then we’ll talk.

    • Adam Braun

      you sir…are a genius!!!

    • tastemylogos

      oh dear

    • global city

      that first sentence is particularly bad…. one of the most idiotic things that I’ve ever read. It shows how you know very little about most stuff.

  • callingallcomets

    You see it was fine in the old days when Jews didn’t hit back…it was always safe to kill a few and give others a good kicking and grin as they grovelled and begged for mercy. They could be pitied and after the bloodletting memorials could be set up and “never again” would be declaimed…until the next time.
    The problem is that the Jews (aka Israelis) now hit back – bomb for bomb, bullet for bullet and that spoils all the fun so they are no longer nice people.
    Personally I would rather be alive and and not seen as nice than submissive and dead.

    • patrickirish

      So how do they hit back at French nationals, Swedish refugees,
      British citizens?

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      In the words of a former candidate for governor of Texas:

      “Well, I hits him with everything I had right square between the eyes.
      I says, ¡’m gonna gitcha, you son of a bitch ya, for spoutin’ that pack of lies.
      If there’s one thing I can’t abide, it’s an ethnocentric racist;
      Now you take back that thing you said about Aristotle Onassis.

      No, they ain’t makin’ jews like jesus anymore,
      We don’t turn the other cheek the way we done before.
      You could hear that honky holler as he hit that hardwood floor
      Lord, they sho’ ain’t makin’ jews like jesus anymore!”

      http://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/kinky+friedman/they+aint+makin+jews+like+jesus+anymore_20079424.html

  • Retired Nurse

    btw: one of the victims wasn’t a Jew ..

    • tokoloshiman

      makes no difference – the intent was to kill jews or anyone friendly to them.

  • sarah_13

    Once again, well done Douglas for highlighting what no other news outlet seems want to highlight.

  • Hexhamgeezer

    Any more of this young Douglas and Fraser will be a’sacking you.

    • logdon

      Andrew Gilligan is the only other msm columnist of note to approach anything like the truth.

      Scared into submission by at one end, the thought police and the other, the bearded ones, this omerta only serves to highlight how far down the swamp of submission we’ve descended.

      Whether it’s the police and social services ignoring the appalling grooming and rape of minors, infiltration of our school governance in Birmingham or the latest on hoodlum vote gathering in Tower Hamlets Muslim criminality is calling the shots.

      It cannot continue. The lid is lifted and the pattern recognised. Taking the public for mugs is in itself a mugs game and only stokes anger.

      And it’s replicated right across Europe where Farages predictions are proving true.

      Time for a change, trouble is who is up to it?

  • LucieCabrol

    Well we’ve only had one beheading in the last 12 months…..

    • tokoloshiman

      proves islam is ROP.

  • rjbh

    Maybe he had his home destroyed by an Israeli bulldozer

    • LucieCabrol

      ye…those bastards are all over the place up in Luton.

    • al-kafir al-yahudi

      so now the terrorist is a palestinian? i didn’t read that.

      • ahad_ha_amoratsim

        No, I think his point is that because Israel did something an Arab did not like, any Arab is therefore justified in killing any Jew anywhere in the world.
        That’s pretty much the same philosophy the murderer had. Fortunately for rjbh, neither Israel nor Jews as a whole share that philosophy, or rjbh would be in real trouble.

        • al-kafir al-yahudi

          That’s my point. Only Jews are held to the collective punishment for so-called “wrongs”. After 9/11, we were bombarded with “don’t blame all muslims” by leftist apologists. Apparently, it’s only OK to blame all Jews, starting with the Catholic Church’s policy that all Jews need to be punished for the death of Jesus.

          • ahad_ha_amoratsim

            Exactly. Some are more blatant about it and others less so, but it always boils down to the same old formula: Some Jew(s) did something I don’t like [are communist/ capitalists/ bankers/ swindlers/ Arab-killers/ Neocons/ supporters of a canditate or policy I don’t like] , therefore every Jew has it coming.

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      So that makes it okay for him to kill random Jews. Got it.
      By the way, Israel has bull-dozed more Jewish homes than Arab homes.

    • ahad_ha_amoratsim

      Maybe he had his brain destroyed by a centuries-long tradition of hating Jews.
      Maybe you did too.

  • James Lovelace

    A few years ago, I accompanied a small, female jewish friend on a counter-protest against a “Free Gaza” demo. There was just the 2 of us.

    We stood for 5 hours arguing with muslims (and their communist allies, who are strangely pro-nationalist when the nation will be full of brown people).

    Many of the muslims we met were mental. They said things to us like “when Israel has no more friends, my brothers will invade their houses and eat their babies”. Even the communists who were stood by them looked nauseated on hearing this. Asked to repeat it for the reporters, the muslims did, but it never appeared in any report.

    Other muslims were saying to me (thinking I was jewish) “you have murdered my brothers”. When I asked if they where from the middle east or had ever been there, the answer was “no”. But when I asked them “can christians in Britain hold you responsible for what muslims do in Nigeria or Sudan or Pakistan or Bangladesh”, the answer was still “no”. Even when asked if they could be held responsible for the 7/7 bombings (done by fellow British muslims) the answer was still “no”.

    It is clear there are a lot of muslims who feel they have the right to claim revenge on the part of any muslim killed anywhere in the world. But they don’t think anyone else has got the right to apply this principle in return.

    • Uncle Brian

      Asked to repeat it for the reporters, the muslims did, but it never appeared in any report. Well, they couldn’t put that in print, could they. Or broadcast it. That would be islamophobic. And islamophobia is a much more serious offence than eating babies.

  • Liz

    Are you sure some alternative explanation to hatred and incitement of hatred can’t be found? Like being mentally ill or disturbed or at least unbalanced? And seeking a Hollywood ending? Or bring sexually frustrated? Or is that just for the girls?

    • tokoloshiman

      ARE YOU AN OSTRICH?

    • mightymark

      Why would people kill jews out of “sexual frustration”?

  • James Lovelace

    Why is anyone surprised by this? Even in the UK, the CST’s own statistics show that muslims (who are 12% of the population of London) are responsible for at least 50% of the attacks on jews there.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7831897.stm

    Jews are leaving France, the UK and Norway. Gays have been forced out of east London and out of Dutch cities. Our media and politicians refuse to talk about these things. And the so-called “community leaders” (either gay or jewish) are silent about what goes on.

    • http://mrsdbliss.blogspot.com/ MrsDBliss

      Where is your evidence that gays have been forced out of London? I’m curious.

      • MikeF

        He said ‘east London’. There are, I believe, several reports of Islamic vigilantes in that part of the city harassing homosexual people and young women dressed in a western style. I have only read of them, but I have never seen them denied. Isn’t there a bit of YouTube video of one of these incidents?

        • James Lovelace

          The leftwing enablers of islamo-fascism went to great trouble to get YouTube to remove the videos.

          A few muslims were convicted for those videos/sharia patrols. But the police said they had CCTV evidence of a large number of muslims leaving East London Mosque and covering east London with “Gay Free Zone” stickers; only one 18 year old Bengali immigrant was prosecuted though. As is typical when it comes to the police prosecuting muslim criminals, the police only prosecute a token individual. Clearly the police are in cahoots: muslims give up 1 individual (usually the one who will most likely get off with a slap on the wrists), and the police then close the case.

          I’ve been to leftwing meetings where muslims have stood up and admitted this is what goes on.

          • MikeF

            Yes – the politicisation of the police and the debasement of the justice system are amongst the most venal consequences of the permeation of society by the bogus doctrine of ‘anti-racism’. Believe me I know what I am talking about there as well.

            • James Lovelace

              So do I. When my family was the victim of racist violence, the police were very sympathetic. Until I told them the racists were not white. Then they did a volte face, and said “what did YOU do to provoke this”.

              Luckily we had witnesses, and some of those witnesses were also not white. If this had not been the case, I am sure the police would have simply refused to record the crime which had taken place. As it is, they still did the absolute minimum they could, and dragged their heels every step of the way.

              4 legs good, 2 legs bad.

              • MikeF

                I am sure that is the case. I will merely record for my own part that a complaint of ‘racist’ behaviour by a ‘non-white’ person against a ‘white’ person will be pursued relentlessly irrespective of the lack of evidence or contradictory nature of whatever testimony is involved.

          • MikeF

            “The leftwing enablers of islamo-fascism went to great trouble to get YouTube to remove the videos”.
            Seems they weren’t as successful as they would have liked:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcsG-u2GtZE

      • James Lovelace

        I suggest you read this discussion for the evidence.

        http://4freedoms.com/group/gays/forum/topics/gay-free-zone-tower-hamlets

        Like I say, the (self-appointed, left-wing) “leaders” of these communities have betrayed the people they supposedly help.

        • http://mrsdbliss.blogspot.com/ MrsDBliss

          Thanks for the link. The thing is that people thought we were moving from absolute morality to relative morality; I hear that all the time. Whereas what we actually have is a form of subjective morality, except it is who is breaking the moral code which defines it is a morally bad act.

      • LeeSouthend

        Don’t know about the gays but I’m bumping into increasing numbers of Jewish people who have moved out of east London.

        • http://mrsdbliss.blogspot.com/ MrsDBliss

          That doesn’t surprise me.

        • justejudexultionis

          I think just about all civilised people have moved out of eastern parts of London by now.

    • MC73

      As I mentioned on another thread, Muslims beat gays in libtard top trumps so gay rights groups stay quiet about oppression. Of course Jews don’t make it in to the libtard top trumps pack…

      • James Lovelace

        I think it’s worse. Fascism won WW2. Fascism buys off groups of individuals by co-opting their leaders. The gay “leaders” (self-appointed) have been co-opted. My view is that they have deliberately sacrificed individual gay people in east London and kept quiet so that LibLabCon would institute same-sex marriage.

        Not one of my gay friends is taking up same-sex marriage. Most of those in long-term relationships didn’t even take up civil partnerships. The socialists among they did not take up civil partnership or marriage because then they would become liable for more tax. Socialists are hypocrites, and want others to be taxed rather than themselves.

      • justejudexultionis

        What about gay Jews?

        • James Lovelace

          They still come lower than muslims.

          Considern Ayaan Hirsi Ali is black and a woman and an ex-muslim, she still comes lower than muslims.

          In the islamic worldview, muslims are the Uber-Mensch. Clearly the western “liberal” leaders agree with this worldview.

    • Robertus Maximus

      Jews are also fleeing Sweden thanks to that country’s “enlightened” immigration policy.

      • patrickirish

        So, why does Sweden have such an enlightened immigration policy, such a high tolerance for refugees?

        • global city

          because their country has been ran by internationalist progressive elites for decades.

          Like most things that go horribly wrong in a society, there is usually some left wing ideologial ‘theory’ behind it.

          • patrickirish

            You mean cosmopolitans?

            • ahad_ha_amoratsim

              rootless cosmopolitans.

          • Robertus Maximus

            Exactly. Whenever the Left have a chance of implementing their fantasies it means something of real worth, tried and tested over centuries, will be destroyed never to be put back together again.

            In the case of the Jews it means facilitating the flight of a people who have made an incalculable contribution to Western culture, and replacing them with people who will do incalculable damage to Western culture.

            • Astrid Fernandez

              “In the case of the Jews it means facilitating the flight of a people who have made an incalculable contribution to Western culture, and replacing them with people who will do incalculable damage to Western culture.”

              Brilliant. And exactly, the left are the bigger enemy here.

            • Miki Bacsi

              I like to call them bolshies. There are several type actually, they are all dangerous. We need to occupy Mars so that we can separate from these people.

              https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/422752

        • Cheradenine

          This article gives some good insight into how it came about.

          http://www.destroyzionism.com/2013/01/13/how-and-why-sweden-became-multicultural/

          It seems our Jewish friends were not free of responsibility in the matter. Indeed, they have been among the foremost promoters of immigrationism, multiculturalism and diversity in European societies but not in Israel, just as they were among the foremost promoters of Communism in an earlier age. Multiculturalism is coming back to bite them, just as Communism eventually did.

          Kevin McDonald’s book Culture of Critique is a profound and important analysis of the relentless Jewish support for immigration designed to alter the ethnic character of European societies, breaking down the majority in order to make it less threatening to Jews. Before reading it, I always found antisemitism mystifying. After it, I understood.

      • Bill_der_Berg

        If Jews are fleeing Sweden they can put some of the blame on one of their co-religionists, a Ms Barbara Specter.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROGnoNJc6Nw

        • Robertus Maximus

          My God, that Specter woman must win the prize for being the most visually irritating and stupid woman the world has yet produced – along with Polly Toynbee, naturally.

          Words (almost) fail me. I see she lives in America, well out of harm’s way. The self-loathing of some Western Jews is truly bizarre – trying to distance themselves from Zionism so they can stay in the Lefty club, I suppose.

        • ahad_ha_amoratsim

          Ms. Spector, an American, helped add Muslim intolerance to Sweden’s centuries old hatred for Jews? Good trick, that.
          Or is this simply another example of some Jews did things I don’t like, therefore any Jew anywhere deserves what he gets for being a Jew?

          • Bill_der_Berg

            I do not know if Swedes deserve the burden of racial guilt you want to place on them, but the answer to your question is ‘No’, I do not blame all Jews for Ms Spector.

            • ahad_ha_amoratsim

              Of course not all. And it is not racial guilt. It is historic culture that began under Christianity and predisposed people to see Jews — all Jews — as irredeemably evil and to accept false accusations of murder and corruption aimed at Jews and to justify denying rights to Jews that were granted without question to everyone else. It morphed but athe same poison today in sympathy with Muslim false accusations of murder leads people to culture that began under Christianity and predisposed people to see Jews — all Jews — as irredeemably evil and to accept false accusations of murder and corruption aimed at Jews and to justify denying rights to Jews that were granted without question to everyone else.

              I would consider it foolish and evil to believe that this poison is racially inherent in the Swedes, or renders all Swedes gulty. But it would also be foolish to note its role in Sweden’s culture and history.

      • Al

        Too true. Malmo used to have a large proportion of jewish people living living in it. Not anymore as they are literally fleeing- no prices for guessing the reason why…..

  • global city

    Cue stupid fascist conspiracy theorists and New Left islamist apologists!

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