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The Queen has just reminded Britain why we don’t need her to abdicate

4 June 2014

4 June 2014

This is a preview of the leading article in the new Spectator, out tomorrow:

It would be easy to look at the alluring photographs of Prince Felipe of Spain and his young family stretched over their garden sofa and wonder whether the United Kingdom should join the current fad for abdication among European royals. In stepping aside in favour of his son, Juan Carlos joins Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands and Albert II of Belgium in having given up the throne over the past year, while Pope Benedict XVI became the first pope in 600 years to resign his post.

With a little nudge from her advisers in grey suits might our own Queen bow out to a graceful retirement and make way for her son, or better still her grandson, and the monarchy become the living embodiment of what Tony Blair used to like to call ­ when he was still in his early 40s a ‘young country’?

It is something strongly to be resisted. For all the skill of Prince Felipe’s PR agents and photographers, the best advert for monarchy this week is the sight of Elizabeth II doing as she has done countless times during her long reign: making the short journey from Buckingham Palace to the House of Lords to speak at the state opening of Parliament. Here, in one dignified octogenarian and the sense of duty which she exudes, is encapsulated the advantage of monarchy over republic.

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Anyone tempted to giggle at the pageantry misses the point. The country has been led by 12 prime ministers since the Queen began her annual ­ or mostly annual ­ visit to Westminster. The Commons has been cleared-out by 15 general elections, many of them angry and divisive affairs. Yet the head of state to whom has fallen the duty of reading out forthcoming government bills, has remained constant throughout. She is a humble reminder to our here-today, gone tomorrow politicians that they are not bigger than the British state, that popularity in an election does not turn Britain into their personal fiefdom, nor the British constitution into their plaything.

It is a tribute to the Queen’s personal conduct, as well as to the robustness of parliamentary procedure, that while she must have announced many government bills over the past 62 years through gritted teeth few of us have any idea which ones. It is sometimes asserted that the Queen must by inclination be a Conservative, to judge by her love of country sports and waxed outdoor wear. But are we any the wiser what she really thinks on free schools, regulation of markets, the poll tax, nationalisation and privatisation? If there is a footman somewhere who has heard her expound on such issues he has kept it to himself.

The same, of course, cannot be said of her son, who at various times has appointed himself as the people’s spokesman on architecture, the environment and of late even dabbled in foreign affairs. We cannot know how Prince Charles would have behaved had he become king at an early age. We would like to think that he would have exhibited the same impartiality of his mother. But there is at least some probability that he would have shown less self-restraint.

To bring the second Elizabethan age to a premature close would be a folly, and not just because it would bring to the throne a man who seems less temperamentally suited to the role as monarch. British history has always tended to viewed in periods relating to the monarch.

Georgian, Victorian, Edwardian; all mean something in our collective consciousness. The reign of Elizabeth II ­ which, health-willing, will become the longest in history in little more than a year’s time ­ will arguably be remembered as the greatest of them all. Unlike Queen Victoria’s it has not of course been an era of world domination, but as a period of peace and prosperity it is unsurpassed.

The monarchy, which might seem on the face of it to be an anachronism at odds with the spirit of democracy and meritocracy, can hardly have been higher. It is hopeless trying to compare the current minor clamour for republicanism with the suppressed urge for it during ages when to express it might have cost you your head, but no poll has ever put it at a level which would even remotely provide a platform to win a referendum on the subject. The monarchy is, at a time when our parliament, courts, churches, banks and many others have had their reputations battered, just about the most popular institution we have.

The ultimate test of our political system, however, comes not from inside but from the outside. The multitudes of wealthy foreigners who have made London the most sought-after city on the planet in which to live are not coming for our weather, our landscape or our architecture, pleasing though each of those things may be in parts. They come to live here because Britain is just about the last country on Earth where you can imagine tanks rolling up outside the parliament building, where you can imagine citizens being jailed for their beliefs or being slaughtered for their wealth.

The stability of our political system brings with it a huge dividend which no-one has yet thought to calculate. It attracts money and talented individuals in large measures. Queen Elizabeth II is a large part of that stability and, though old age of course brings it frailties, we hope that her reign will last a long while yet.


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  • Bobby

    Scum bags, PR and bullshit.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Isn`t it about time you got with the programme, Spectator?
    This is the story of the week, going on year:
    “Irish Church ‘horrified’ over children’s mass grave”

    To quote the late, great Christopher Hitchens, “A clutch of sinister virgins who have already betrayed the charge in the children of their own church.”
    Jack, Japan Alps

  • Edmund Carrington

    An excellent article — one that attests all that which so many of us admire in Queen Elizabeth II and the Royal Family. Too often the internet’s endless “bogs-and-twits” brim with rhetoric from the angry fringe who excoriate our institutions without ever realising their historical and emotional value to society.
    The Queen has dedicated her entire life to fulfilling her duties with poise and dignity — a
    a fine example, at least as I see it. I only hope my children grow up to be equally proud of our history, culture and traditions.

    • john

      Obviously you’re not somebody who relishes democracy – even less equal opportunity for all! Our institutions are moribund. That’s why the Scots may well buzz off – good luck to them.
      The royals offer nothing except the arrogance of unearned power. Our history is certainly great but we’ve lost the will to move ahead and prefer silly rituals like royal weddings and Mrs W “opening” our Parliament.

  • SimonToo

    I am puzzled by the final sentence of your 7th paragraph, “British history has always tended to viewed in periods relating to the monarch.”

  • john

    I trust this paen to deference was written from a kneeling position.
    Nothing is sillier than Britain’s royal fetish. The article tries to pretend that Mrs Windson in full regalia, reading a speech by a Tory PM to Lords etc is a fine service to the country. Nonesense – we need to face up to the 21st century -not the 19th. Fancy dress parades and an unelected Head of State don’t contribute to our future.

  • http://english-pensioner.blogspot.co.uk/ english_pensioner

    The Queen should not abdicate, but she should devolve much more to the younger generation. Some of the duties, like opening parliament, are quite arduous and climbing in and out of the traditional coach is not that easy. If she lives to the age of her mother, the time will come when she won’t be able to walk that distance unaided. I would hate to see her have to use a wheelchair – perhaps a sedan chair would be more dignified!

  • Iain Hill

    Regurgitation of ancient arguments. The real question is whether a woman of around 90 is able to discharge properly the governmental, not the ceremonial, functions of her role. Cameron’s support for her continuation surely reflects that a 90 year old is easier to handle, being far less inclined to challenge his views, to warn and advise, than someone younger.

    We should make it easier for HM by introducing a mandatory retirement provision at 75. She could continue to make public appearance while her health lasts, as her mother so memorably did, leaving the boring, but vitally important bits to her successor.

    • SimonToo

      You seem to have been shielded from older women expressing their views decidedly.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    The thought of who and what will follow Queen Elizabeth as monarch causes me to shout, “God Save the Queen”.

  • Rossspeak

    By far the best argument against abdication is put over politely in the article – in brief – better the current Queen than her inappropriate Son.

    • SimonToo

      Those heirs to the throne whose accession was keenly anticipated tended to disappoint after they succeeded,

  • justejudexultionis

    You Brits happy with your government by unelected billionaire, are you?

    • Picquet

      Who, Cameron??

    • SimonToo

      Which billionaire would you rather elect ?

      • john

        Any at all rather than a hereditary “Monarch”.

  • justejudexultionis

    We don’t need the queen to abdicate – we need the entire royal family to make way for a democratically elected head of state. You may have heard of Germany and the United States – two countries that have outplayed us on so many levels over the last sixty or so years… Constitutional Republics work and are what the UK needs to combat nepotism, Londoncentricity and the overall moral and intellectual decline of this country.

    republic dot org dot uk for rational democracy in the UK

    • Augustus

      Republicans talk about democracy, and yet know they are in the minority in the UK. What’s so democratic about that? Polls consistently show support for the monarchy, which is sufficient mandate enough to retain it.

      • dalai guevara

        Monarchists talk about democracy and forget that the dog has a tail.

  • HappyHighwayman

    They should end the monarchy now, as they are unelected. They hold no real power, and serve as a reminder that even in a modern country some people are better than others because of the happenstance of their birth.

    • MirthaTidville

      So who would you rather have, the Queen her crown and dignity or president Bliar???…get over your left wing views and grow up lad

      • HappyHighwayman

        I don’t care about dignity. I care about the rule of law, as decided by a democratic process. No more Lords, Kings, Queens, Barons, Princes. Just human beings. God did not choose Queen Elizabeth, fate did, happenstance. To elevate one above many is shameful. I would rather have who we vote for.

        • SimonToo

          I worry about the rule of law as decided by a democratic process. The rule of law as our birthright is preferable to coercion by the 51%.

          • HappyHighwayman

            Oh I see now. You’re a fascist.

  • Simon Fay

    Long serving, quietly dignified, thoroughly stable…and of no more relevance to the on-going experiment carried out on her subjects than a Lady Mayoress opening a flower-arranging school.

    • Edmund Carrington

      “Ongoing experiment?!” “Caliphate?” ….Suggest that you put the foil back on your head before the spooks hear your thoughts.

  • Donafugata

    Having been brought up and confirmed as a Roman Catholic I had a good understanding of the symbolism of the sacrament.
    While watching the Coronation it was the anointing of Her Majesty that made the greatest impression on me.

    She was strengthened and the vicissitudes of sixty years have not touched her as Queen.
    Semper idem.

    • justejudexultionis

      So you accept that the monarch is head of the established religion of this country? Not much of a true Catholic, are you?

      • Donafugata

        The Queen is a truer Queen than Benedictine was a pope.

        This is my country and I am grateful that there is freedom of religion.

        • BarkingAtTreehuggers

          Let’s have another Pope then shall we
          in Avignon-sur-Thames

      • Mynydd

        Which country are you talking about. There as been no established religion in Wales since the 1920s. Get up to dated.

  • Ooh!MePurse!

    Hear, hear!

  • The Masked Marvel

    If one wants reminding that the Queen need not abdicate, look no further than the next time Prince Charles opens his mouth.

    Also, keeping the monarchy perpetually outrages the lefties and media luvvies, which is always good value for money.

    • Makroon

      Quite so. Charlie boy needs at least another two decades to grow up a bit.

  • lookout

    The Americans have the right to bear arms from the writers of the constitution, the writers had lived and seen what befalls an unarmed population. We have had enough examples in the last century to show us totalitarianism awaits the foolish. An armed people is the last and only defence against a corrupt government.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      A slight correction. The Americans recognize the right to bear arms from natural law, not from some puny human beings.

      • lookout

        Fair one, being armed to make a government think again about every man being equal under the law is a basic

    • justejudexultionis

      LOL good luck with that. Do you think that America’s armed citizenry with their handguns and shotguns could withstand the US Army, or even the National Guard with its array of heavy weaponry, tactical nukes etc? If so, you are deluded. Even the most heavily armed US citizens, those with automatic weaponry, would struggle to resist the overmighty federal government. The Second Amendment has only nominal practical value in discouraging tyranny.

      • lookout

        No I don’t, but Bundy managed to scare off the feds when he and his mates stood up to them, they were cowboys, proper cowboys, armed to the teeth, when the feds left the cowboys put their Stetson over their hearts and sang the national anthem

      • SimonToo

        Somehow I just cannot see the US Army using a nuke to put down a militia rising in Des Moines.

  • London Calling

    Come on England…..football to look foward to tonight….the best part is when fans sing to the Queen………….:)

  • Gregory Mason

    Britain is one of the first places I can ‘imagine citizens being jailed for their beliefs’ as they already have been arrested and jailed for ‘offences’ such as the breach of the Equality Act(s) or Race Relations Act(s).

  • HookesLaw

    We have a constitutional monarchy. The role beyond the purely ceremonial that the queen plays is minimal. Who holds the office is a minor consideration compared with the principle of what the office is about.
    As long as the queen does not secretly swan off to Africa to shoot elephants there is no need for her to resign or abdicate and if, due to simple old age and / or some sad dibilitating infirmity she did abdicate for a quiet life them there would be no great issues at stake.

    This is another of those pointless Spectator articles.

    • BarkingAtTreehuggers

      Dear Hooky, having a constitutional monarchy means something.
      It enshrines the power of those selected ‘by decree’ centuries ago, in the Magna Carta and any of its follow up documents. We greatly cherish that as it regulates many things, the laws of the land and its use, development, progress, and the certainty that communities will forever be excluded from partaking in the great local energy revolution or monetary policy of this great nation.

      Now, read this twice before you respond.

      • Gregory Mason

        This nation ceased to be ‘great’ a long time ago.

        It’s a shame that Her Majesty, unlike her predecessors, has given away powers and sovereignty to a foreign power.

        • BarkingAtTreehuggers

          The Duke of Devonshire (posthumously) and the Duke of Westminster (still with us) thank you for your kind words.

        • saffrin

          Power the people are begining to recognise as lost.
          UKIP

    • dms0001

      Constitutional Monarchy, Ugh, how many times are you going to trot out this imbecilic mantra? There’s no such thing, it’s made up by those wishing to stay in, & those wanting them to continue in power, privilege. You’re simply repeating that mantra, either because you’re one of the latter or unable to consider any other views.

      • Peppered Angus

        Tell me, when’s the last time the Queen actually came up with laws and policies herself? She doesn’t. She’s like a stamp of approval, the Houses of Commons and Lords decide what the country does.

    • dms0001

      It wasn’t pointless, gave me some amusement for a short period & an insight into the minds of the brainwashed of the UK.

  • Adam Carter

    The Queen will not abdicate.
    Look at one of your coins: Elizabeth II, By The Grace Of God ; Queen, Defender Of The Faith.
    She believes this; she will not voluntarily give up this job. Do not forget that the Coronation is a Christian service, and the Queen is a believing Christian.
    Whether or not a rtepublic is better than a monarchy is a different question, but the Queen will not abdicate voluntarily.
    And never underestimate the value of having a Head of State separate from whichever politician is head of government.

    • Andy

      She wont abdicate for one simple reason: she is an anointed Queen.

      • Mynydd

        Abdicate and give up all those palaces, and castles with their hundreds of servants, and live on the state pension, surly not. Also she’s a bit to old to learn how to make a cup of tea.

        • itdoesntaddup

          I bet she’d do it better than you – and knows how to fix a car too, as she has been known to do to help broken down motorists on occasion.

          • Andy

            Ignore him: he is a bitter Fascist.

            • Inverted Meniscus

              And a completely stupid one as well.

            • dms0001

              Any one of an unapproved attitude is now a fascist, perhaps you’d prefer to adopt the “racist” word whilst about it?

              • Andy

                All Socialists are Fascists. End of.

          • Donafugata

            That’s right, she trained as a mechanic in the ATS.

            • dms0001

              That was over half a century ago, you obviously haven’t lifted up a bonnet for as long. if you had, you’d know vehicles are now far more complex in their engineering.

          • dms0001

            You mean, when she commanded, Her man, to assist the poor commoners? Can’t see her exactly getting under the bonnet, she doesn’t even put the toothpaste on her brush, as it’s prepared for her, much like Charles.

        • Donafugata

          Everybody thinks they could do the job, being waited on and having loads of money but this reveals their peasant mentality.

          When you have an engagement which means standing for hours in the rain or shaking hands with a bunch of greasy middle-eastern despots, I bet most people would take a sickie.

          • dms0001

            No, we peasants, or , as called by monarchy, commoners, do not want the job, nor claim to be able to do it. We prefer an alternative to someone who simply passed through the allegedly royal birth canal, believing they have a divine right to rule us.

            If you own the freehold of your home, you are living in a fantasy, as your Monarch owns the ultimate freehold in perpetuity for god. You merely are allowed to reside on it. In America, you own the freehold all the way to the centre of the earth, mineral rights, etc.

        • Inverted Meniscus

          Well making a cup of tea is well beyond a socialist nutter like you.

        • Peppered Angus

          You mean the properties owned by the crown and theirs to do with as they please? Yeah, give them back to the royals and watch as swathes of land become ridiculously expensive because they now have the freedom to charge whatever they want for everything that occupies hundreds of acres of their land in London, around London and beyond.

        • David Booth.

          Yes and end up with President Blair! no thanks.

      • dms0001

        Anointed, Ugh, give me strength.

        • MirthaTidville

          aye strength lad is what you need..you socialist nutters need all the help you can get

        • Edmund Carrington

          That is the proper term, mate – appropriately used and in perfect context! Not as familiar to some as ‘Occupy’ and ‘proletariat’…

  • dms0001

    Utter Tosh, Well past their sell by date. Your propaganda falls only on the ears of a minority, The majority want to see the end of this monarchist elitist privileged self serving, self promoting, influencial, corrupt institution. Ask yourselves why non of this family have spoken out about the EU, they are now simply Citizens of the EU with the same rights as the rest of us plebs are they not?

    • Andy

      What is utter tosh is republican drivel like you spout. Constitutional Monarchy, as we saw today, is one of the most stable systems. What is ‘self serving, self promoting, influential, corrupt institution’ is the political class. I wish the monarch had more power and not less.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …but as that guy mentions, they haven’t exercised that power, and in a critical area, too.

        • Andy

          The Queen has three rights: the right to be consulted; the right to encourage and the right to warn. A Queen of great sagacity requires no others. It is the political class which has created the quagmire of the EU, and lest ye forget the British People voted for it in 1975.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …are you certain that the issue was fully formulated in 1975, and that the vote was a legitimate expression of what was wanted and intended?

            • Andy

              So do you vote ? And if so how ??? Tell us.

              • the viceroy’s gin

                No.

                • Andy

                  So you didn’t vote then ? Too young ? Too stupid ? Too lazy ? Why exactly. Or is it that you actually voted ‘Yes’. How your sins will find you out.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  No.

                • dms0001

                  I voted and voted a yes for the Common market, nothing was mentioned of a federalist state, monetary union, EU commissioners. In fact they, politicians, went out of their way to inform us, it would never happen (matter of record, look it up).

                  The whole thing was for trading purposes, making life easier for business, trade, go on holiday, etc. We’ve all learned differently since then, as it has been confirmed from the horses mouth, as well as many minions, that we were all kept in the dark & lied to, in respect of the goal they wished to reach. So do not blame those who voted, blame the filth who lied, cheated, conspired, colluded in a joint enterprise.

                  One of those very people was your So called, Majesty or Highness, as you all like to fondly call her. Ask Her, see how she answers, she will not admit it, but use words that will speak volumes to sane rational individuals, who understand their language, that’s if she deems you to worthy of an answer.

                  They do view you like that. She has known from the word go, what was going on and colluded, conspired, participated in a joint criminal enterprise against the British people, especially the English.

                  English which many of you fawning majesty loving Brainwashed individuals are, has been relegated to history, with the refusal of the new labour Champers guzzling politicos refusal to sign us to the UN treaty.

                  They did sign up Wales, Scotland as nations, just refused to do so with the English. Hence your nation has been taken from you, it’s why Monarchy speaks of Queen of the common wealth, Charles protector of all faiths, etc. never of England, or the English people, & filth such as Jack Straw can say, the English are a race not worth saving.

                  It’s why your borders have been opened to all and sundry, along with those who commit 2.5 murders a week, something that was unheard of a mere few years ago. Fortunately, they kill more of themselves than us, but sometimes innocents get caught in the crossfire.

                  All presided over by your precious Queen. She’s not mine,I reject her 7 all of her family. I know full well who’s camp she sits and it’s not the English peoples. Keep supporting her, she considers you to be commoners, but, she needs you to support her, so they can use the videos in the media to deceive the many on the lack of real support for the Firm.

                  Yes, the Firm, run as a business, using all the guile, marketing, patronage, psychology, intimidation, legal means of a corporation, to take their business where they want it.

                  By the way, the other group to call themselves,The Firm, were the the Kray twins.

                  No i do not want a politician in her place. We could create such a fantastic democratic system, if it weren’t for those who believe totally in the current system, dogmatic in their beliefs, who continue to support the current proven undemocratic structures incestuously linked for their own survival, existence & benefit. That’s all for now, knock yourselves out. Good luck with it

                • Andy

                  I don’t need to ‘look it up’. I have all the stuff that was sent out in my library. However your rather illiterate rant misses one important point: Her Majesty acts on the advice of her Ministers. As I say above, she has the right to be consulted: the right to encourage and the right to warn.

                • SimonToo

                  “In fact they, politicians, went out of their way to inform us, it would never happen (matter of record, look it up).” That is my recollection too, but I was looking through the government pamphlets of the time and, distressingly, I could not find it. Can you give me the exact reference to look it up, please ?

    • Holly

      To be replaced by, elitist, privileged, self promoting, influential, corrupt politicians??
      Who/what would we be replacing the monarchy with?

    • Ooh!MePurse!

      That’s nonsense. Any polls on the monarchy always show a huge, overwhelming majority in favour. I’m glad to say.

    • Inverted Meniscus

      Who are you to speak for the majority? Try and think before writing your socialist nutter boll@x. The monarchy is the least corrupt institution in this country. What would you replace it with ? President Blair, Brown, Miliband etc. Who could possibly feel loyalty towards such unmitigated filth as those swine?

      • dms0001

        I am not a socialist, hate the left wing. I do think, prior to entering my opinion, although, you may not approve, wish me ostracised from any platform, it’s just not going to happen. You & many on here appear to speak, pronounce on matters of monarchy as if you are experts qualified to speak on behalf of the majority, hence, i can do same

        I agree with the opinion on the filth, & no, we could not expect anyone to respect them. We could have a fantastic system of democracy if we were to make a conciousness effort to change things for the better.

        As for least corrupt, obviously you agree there is corruption within the institution. Why should we accept such a stance? We do not accept it in any other institution, although not always easy to prove, when finally done so, people are condemned for it.

        Actually we possibly agree on most things apart from whom shall occupy the seat of symbolic power.

  • Will Goulborn

    This pro-monarchy propaganda is astonishing, surely stability is better provided by a codified constitution than by entrusting the power to dissolve parliament to a single, undemocratic, unaccountable, unrepresentative figurehead.

    • Rhoda Klapp8

      You’d think so, wouldn’t you. Not many countries provide a good example over centuries. Switzerland definitely. Who else?

      I wouldn’t expect ER to go before she has beaten Victoria’s record. I am not rooting for the heir head.

      • Will Goulborn

        I would argue that the US constitution, while not perfect, works well when it is observed and applied. The same is true of the current constitutions of France and Germany. I think that when and however the Queen’s reign ends, a referendum should be held on whether to adopt a Republican constitution.

        • Mark Dowling

          A country that decides its firearms laws based on an interpretation of the politics and mores of North America in the late 1700s? Which country is the one clinging to archaisms?

          • Gregory Mason

            America’s firearms laws are perfectly sensible. A people who is not armed is not free, that’s why they are free and we are not.

            • justejudexultionis

              Do you think America’s population with its many handguns and shotguns would be able to resist the tanks, heavy weaponry, long-range ballistic missiles, tactical nukes and organisation of the United States military?

              • Gregory Mason

                Funny, they asked the same question when it came to the Vietnamese. They also asked that question at the time of the American War of Independence.

        • Rhoda Klapp8

          Yes but it’s only a couple of hundred years old. And can be ignored by a guy with a pen and a phone.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …not if the others in government do their jobs, which they don’t appear to be doing, apparently.

        • Andy

          And that’s the problem – ‘when it is observed and applied’. The problem with all politicians is they tend to have an over-inflated idea of themselves. Look at Blair. It does them a world of good to have to bow to an 88 year old. And remember her first Prime Minister was Sir Winston Churchill, born in 1874: Cameron was born in 1966. She has forgotten more about the world and its politics than either he, useless Miliband or idiot Clegg will ever know.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            She’s well past her prime though, and has (however passively) participated in the surrender of sovereignty.

            • Andy

              Did you vote in the 1975 referendum on EEC membership ???

        • dms0001

          Absolutely, Regrettably non of those holding levers of power, will allow it, as they have shown with the EU.

        • Peppered Angus

          You obviously know nothing about the US and how constitutional rights are being eroded by the year, especially by the Obama administration.

          • Will Goulborn

            I would not consider myself an expert but as I said ‘works well when it is observed and applied’. Erosion of constitutional rights in America is not unique to Obama, ever heard of Guantanamo Bay?

    • GenJackRipper

      Remind me again how many ex-monarchies turned republics have become more free and not turned into either bloody tyrannies (France, Germany, Russia, China) or beaurocratic mega-states (Greece, Italy) ?

      • justejudexultionis

        So you have never heard of the United States, Germany or Switzerland? The USA is arguably the most powerful and economically successful country in world history.

        • Peppered Angus

          It’s also a country that monitors each and every one of its citizens under the guise of “security”. A country that is going against its founding principles and writing off parts of its constitution one by one. It’s also a country with abject poverty in places and cities like Chicago and Detroit which are ridiculously dangerous nowadays. Let’s not get started on the wars in recent times and the current support for terrorists, I mean, freedom fighters in Syria, which is soon to include military aid.

        • SimonToo

          When was Switzerland a monarchy?

    • Donafugata

      The French and the German republics liked it so much, they modelled the EU on it.

  • BarkingAtTreehuggers

    There can be no doubt, there is a deeply sinister EU game plan playing out. Abdications! First Holland, then Belgium, now Spain – who will be next? Have a guess.

    • Grey Wolf

      Belgium has a king? Really?
      Who knew.

      • Bert3000

        Most people. Do keep up.

        • Grey Wolf

          Belgium. I will try harder…..zzzzzzz

      • edithgrove

        all of us

      • dms0001

        Who cares?

    • HookesLaw

      What a thick numpty you are. What next to blame the EU for. Do you realise how stupid you sound? Probably not because you are actually barking mad.

      • BarkingAtTreehuggers

        Did I do that, lad? Did you ever read a Charles Moore piece and … understand it?

      • dms0001

        Oh Hooky, i well remember those words of Michael Corleone in the Godfather 2, maybe 3. Where he states, i keep trying to take the business legit, but, the higher i get to the top, the more crooked it is. he’s not wrong, read the official Rothschild’s prophets of money autobiography, see for yourself.

    • justejudexultionis

      Do you blame the EU for meteorite showers and alien lizardmen invasions as well? If you have a bad day at the office or stub your toe on a table leg, do you blame the EU as well? Do you think the EU had a hand in the Holocaust, the Napoleonic Wars and the Crusades?

      • BarkingAtTreehuggers

        It everyone ab-so-lutely smacked out of their brains here tonight?
        England plays UKIP shirts in Brazil and you all go bananas.

        Viceroy, where are you when you are most needed? Work, for you!
        Viceroy … viceroy!

      • SimonToo

        When in doubt, blame the EU until someone else takes the blame. It is not an infallible policy, but one is at least following the odds.

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