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Gove and May ensured the Queen’s Speech wasn’t the day’s main story

4 June 2014

4:38 PM

4 June 2014

4:38 PM

Downing Street must be hopping mad with Theresa May and Michael Gove for pursuing their own row on the day of a Queen’s Speech that was carefully crafted so as not to rock the boat.

This morning, a ‘spokesperson for Michael Gove and Theresa May’ – a role which hitherto has never existed – issued a statement saying ‘the Department for Education and the Home Office take the problems in Birmingham schools and all issues relating to extremism very seriously. Michael Gove and Theresa May are working together to ensure we get to the bottom of what has happened in Birmingham and take the necessary steps to fix it.’

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But now a ‘government spokesperson’ has issued yet another statement, saying ‘extremism anywhere in society is a serious problem and we are working together across government to deal with it. That was shown by the work of the Prime Minister’s Extremism Taskforce. There is no difference between the Education Secretary and the Home Secretary who are both working energetically together to tackle the challenge posed by any form of extremism.’

This is, as James explained this morning, not particularly precise. The two camps do have different views on how to tackle extremism: let some of it go as a ‘safety valve’, or tackle it at its roots. But there is quite clearly an attempt to make sure that the story of the day of the Queen’s Speech ends up having very little to do with the Queen’s Speech.

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  • Airey Belvoir

    BBC News has managed the impressive feat of covering the Birmingham schools row without once using the words ‘Muslim’ or ‘Islamic.” Takes some doing.

  • evad666

    Time the politicians read http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gods-Terrorists-Wahhabi-Hidden-Modern/dp/0349118795.
    But the again I guess they no longer read.

  • HookesLaw

    There is no problem with them having different views, that is surely understandable and a nessesary byproduct of democracy. We should welcome differences being aired, not trying to make a big journalistic scandal out of it.
    Being silly and childish about it however is pathetic. I like both May and Give, but they have been stupid.

    • Mynydd

      A necessary by-product of our democracy is cabinet collective responsibility. In this case Mr Cameron being the chair of cabinet meetings, and if he was doing his job, would have allowed the airing of different views on the subject then came to a final cabinet position. Mr Cameron has failed to do this, Mrs May and Mr Gove have failed to adopt collective responsibility. The result is not a journalistic scandal but a break down of Mr Cameron’s government and his leadership.

    • Grey Wolf

      May and Give…Give…sure, if you say so.
      But don’t conceal your affections for Ms May. We know.

  • perdix

    The Gove and May story was bigged up by the MSM who always prefer a “row” ,real or not, to calm discussion of policy. Sells more papers, dontit?

  • Mynydd

    This is a complete failure of Mr Cameron leadership. It seems he spends more time out of the office on photo-shoots, than in number 10 sorting out problem.

    • HookesLaw

      Yawn.

  • Howard Turner

    “And you two will sit nicely together and behave yourselves”.

  • Hello

    Yes, I suspect at this very moment Dave and Nick are absolutely fuming:

    “God, Dave! Today was supposed to be about inactive government! Now people are going to think we’re actually doing something! I’m so angry!”

    “I’m livid, Nick! I’m absolutely livid!”

  • http://batman-news.com The Commentator

    Poor old Theresa May, an over-promoted nonentity looks utterly exhausted, bags under her eyes. I wonder what the poor civil servants who have had to carry her look like. Gove is everything May is not: bright, energetic, charismatic and right!

    • MirthaTidville

      You can say that again..May is utterly useless and quite the worst HS we have had to endure for a very long time….qnother of dave`s mates

      • MalcolmRedfellow

        Forgive me: why should her facial features be a definition of her competence? Or are we being just a trifle sexist?

        • MirthaTidville

          Please read what I write and think before you post..I made no mention of her appearance, others did that…

      • Kitty MLB

        Utter rubbish.Theresa May is a strong determined
        woman who is excellent at her job.Which she does
        with grace, charm and good manners.
        And l love her kitten heels.

        • telemachus

          Be not deceived by the kitten heels
          Beneath these lies a burn your bra feminist

          • Grey Wolf

            Why did you burn your bra and your pink thong?

          • Kitty MLB

            Rubbish, she is strong and feminine at the same time. You are clearly thinking of Mrs
            Balls who is forever chewing hamsters,
            and Harriet Hateman …Is she even human
            let alone a female.
            You’ll see with Theresa May, the lady will
            be the next Conservative leader and
            Prime Minister…I’d wager on that.

            • Shazza

              Harriet Hateman aka Hattie Harpicperson.

            • Grey Wolf

              Easy Kitty, easy, You are going all ”marriage equality” for Ms May.

            • telemachus

              Sadly not well enough
              On the other hand Yvette will at least make it to Downing Street in a wifely capacity

        • MirthaTidville

          You hold in high regard the woman who branded your party the `Nasty Party`???….No wonder the Tories are a mess

          • HookesLaw

            She did not brand the party nasty. Once again you traduce history and the facts.
            Its well known that May was ill a while back, so comments on her appearance are even more crass than normal.

            • MirthaTidville

              She was the one that allowed the phrase to be coined…and you lot think she is the answer to Dave…laughable

    • http://google.co.eu Sentinel

      Bright & charismatic, eh? Next Party Chairman, perhaps.

      Has anyone else heard the rumour that IDS is going to be moved – HM Treasury have lost what little confidence they had left – and Esther McVey (sp?) will become SoS at DWP?

      • telemachus

        Anything
        Anything but Education
        Gove is dangerous
        He is ruining our schools
        He is ruining our children
        *
        Teachers hate the man
        If he stays at education much longer there will be a political murder
        And not by the allies of Al Qaeda

        • john king

          “Teachers hate the man”. Sounds good. A few more lefties raging, what’s not to like?

    • telemachus

      Do not be unfair on Theresa’s looks
      She is a diabetic and entitled to look one degree under

  • Shazza

    BTW – Breitbart London are reporting that Mehdi Hasan in his Huffington Post article has compared Michael Gove to Anders Breivik.

    So now we have the situation where if you object to the islamification of our schools as does Mr Gove, then for this crime you are compared to a mass murderer. Hasan, is on Youtube describing non-moslems as cattle, etc. and has never been censored for this. The hubris now of Hasan and his ilk, is breathtaking.

    • you_kid

      by the way?
      Who gives a fork what BBart think? Are they not a CBeeBies subsidiary?

      • Hello

        BBart is what happens when you only pretend that you have an editor — sorry, I mean hire Raheem Kassam.

        • you_kid

          Turner Prize material.

          • HookesLaw

            To be fair a lot of the stuff on here is. I suspect your point may have been lost.

            • you_kid

              How could you possilby compare the Chelsea Flower Show Gold Medal standard that is consistently delivered here on a daily basic in culture and (political) entertainment with the Teletubby type offerings of BBart?
              You really worry me sometimes …

      • Shazza

        Hasan’s article is in the HuffPo – Breitbart merely commented on it.

        I’m sure you are suitably impressed at your own attempt at cutting wit. I would presume that often posters do not agree with my comments, but this time I would imagine that they concur with my opinion of your reply.

        • telemachus

          The fact of pick up by Breibart is sufficient comment on the provenance and tone of the comments

    • Grey Wolf

      But what amazes or rather astounds me is that how come our political elite, our law enforcement apparatus does not arrest vile people like Mehdi Hasan and others of his ilk. Surely, the cattle speech can be considered hate speech. There is something to this.

      • Shazza

        They know they are above the law. Unless they resort to actual violence, they know they are untouchable. Hasan and his ilk represent the real danger to this country, allowed to present their ‘reasonable’ arguments that they are continuously being victimised and that they just want to get on with living their own lives according to their beliefs. When challenged, they hide behind the useful, inane construct ‘islamophobia’ and the dhimmis, afraid of being called racist, back down.

        Hence this creeping islamification continues unhindered. Mehdi knows that there is no moderate islam – his Youtube rant makes that perfectly clear. He understands, as stated by Erdogan, that Islam is Islam. For moslems, islam means sharia. There is no getting away from that.

        Now the moslem defence of victimisation increases. Is Mehdi insinuating that by associating a good man like Gove to a mass murderer that moslems are now going to be attacked as a result of the Trojan Horse plot being investigated by Gove?

        • telemachus

          Talking of racists rants
          The Islamists are less dangerous than the radical right Christians such as writer on these threads Nicky Gumbel and his alpha brigade

          • Vehmgericht

            It’s witless hyperbole like that which makes people dismiss you as a troll.

            Unlike “the Islamists”, “Nicky Gumbel and his alpha brigade” have committed exactly zero terrorist outrages and there is very little chance that they ever will, since they are all talk and no trousers.

  • Grey Wolf

    Gove and May. May and Gove. Awww. What a cute couple. They should consider marriage.

    • HookesLaw

      Are you a total fully paid up moron or are you only practising?

      • Grey Wolf

        Hmmm..see who is getting jealous here !
        HookesLaw, May is all yours!!

  • BarkingAtTreehuggers

    Oh how these two must be despising the plebs – may I suggest that their largely pointless tete-a-tete today would have led to anything other than honest taxpayers taking up ‘extremists views’ with regards to outright despicable government action?

    How so, you will ask. Well, the answer is of course simple, as ever – the answer is: 50 quid — yes, 50 quid compensation, that is all our beloved government will pass on of the great profits that are yet again to be made when fracking under our land and our feet. Fifty quid. Brilliant. Let’s not spend it all at once on further education, shall we?

    (now queue the establishment loons below, again, as always)

    • Tom M

      £50? your lucky. The government (ie the NCB) mined under my house (as a matter of fact under the whole village) for years and I got nothing (and didn’t expect anything either unless the house fell down which it didn’t). And they were creating a lot bigger holes a lot closer to the surface.
      And I’m not an establishment loon either.

      • BarkingAtTreehuggers

        We should all celebrate now you not giving a frack.

        • HookesLaw

          People should be fined £50 for every time they make a pathetic joke based on the word ‘frack’.
          The point is which you cannot answer that we have mined under properties for generations. Parts of our nation, like Notts, have through natural geology suffered minor earthquakes for centuries without undue problems.

          • BarkingAtTreehuggers

            Hooky, why is it that without exception you fail to grasp the essence of any of my posts – the issue highlighted by me here is not whether or not to frack, it is the question of ownership of the process.
            I *know* that we have dug up coal etc for centuries – how could you seriously be in doubt of that? The deeper question is: why is Britain still feudal on paper and others are not?

    • http://google.co.eu Sentinel

      Has anyone done any analysis of how fracking could influence Tory voters in the 30 odd Tory seats affected?

      I would be concerned about property blight and insurance cover rather more than the nuisance (lorries, noise, pollution and so on).

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