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Ukip surge as Labour make sluggish progress

23 May 2014

7:03 AM

23 May 2014

7:03 AM

Only one party can be happy with the local elections results so far, Ukip. Nigel Farage’s party has so far added 86 councilors to its tally and these results suggest that Sunday, when the European Election votes are counted, should be a good night for the party.

Labour’s results have been mixed to disappointing. Their best news of the night was picking up Hammersmith and Fulham off the Tories. Knocking over one of the Tories’ flagship councils will delight Labour. But Hammersmith is a region where the demographics have been running against the Tories, look at how Shaun Bailey failed to win the parliamentary seat last time.

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Labour has also gained control of Merton and Cambridge City councils. But they’ve lost control of the council in the key marginal of Thurrock. They also didn’t take Swindon and Tamworth. Considering that one of Labour’s aim in these elections was to give itself a local government launch-pad for the general election, this has to be a blow.

The Tories are losing seats and councils. But the party is confident that it’ll still be the largest party in local government once all these results are counted. As in so many things, the crucial question for the Tories is whether the rise of Ukip is a temporary surge or a permanent phenomenon. If it is the former, then these results are fine for the Tories. But if it is the latter, then this split on the right could cost the party heavily.

Nick Clegg’s Liberal Democrats have lost a slew of councilors. But the party is busy pointing to how its vote has tended to hold up in its own seats. We’ll have to see whether this trend continues.

Ukip, though, are the big winners so far. The results in Essex have been particularly good for them and the party now appears to be the main opposition to Labour in the urban north.

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  • global city

    Since Thursday the MSM flap has changed somewhat.

    It seems that UKIP’s ‘success’ was not actually success at all. They got less seats than Labour and didn’t win a single council. Somehow those two facts are ‘significant’ to reality.

    Now it is being pushed that if they do not walk Newark (maj 16k) it will mean that the bubble has truly burst and collapse will be round the corner. This has not only been questioned by the BBC, they have been the main source of this BS.

    Presumably when they collapse every person who voted for them will return to the fold.

  • Bill_der_Berg

    Police were on duty outside more than 100 polling stations yesterday because of the risk of voter fraud and intimidation. !6 councils were identified as needing an intensified police present.
    It has nothing to do with UKIP, that’s for sure.

  • you_kid

    What surge?

    1,600 odd seats declared so far – UKIP gain 92 no. seats
    Now that’s not 25% of the vote in my book, that’s more like 5.75%.
    Britain will never learn how to be democratic.

    • Bill_der_Berg

      UKIP were aiming for 80 seats.

      • pajeroexceed

        why wast your time on these twits . Time is on the side of UKIP. Just a few shorts year from now Immigration issues will bring UKIP into its proper place on the political scene

  • Smithersjones2013

    Nick Clegg is claiming he has won seats in Maidstone. According to Sky there is no change and the BBC he has lost one. Either he is completely incompetent or he’s a complete liar or both!

    • Bill_der_Berg

      Read the small print.

  • Bill_der_Berg

    Non-Ukipper Tim Montgomerie of The Times has got the picture.

    “…it is easier to accuse UKIP of fascism than to worry about how our immigration, tax and housing systems protect the haves rather than the have-nots. Those shouting ‘bigot’ at UKIP should go to continental Europe and meet some real racist parties. For every racist in UKIP’s ranks there are ten patriots who want to be able to choose how they are given and ten more angry at the coalition parties’ broken promises on immigration and tuition fees’.

    • Shazza

      UKIP realise just how heartbroken the British public are at what has been done to their country – Tim M is spot on with his observation. The big test here is for Cameron to recognise this and man up to the challenge.

      UKIP have done this country a great service, giving the public a peaceful means of expressing their horror at the devastation that mass immigration has done to white working class areas. The Labour commentators this morning are all waffling about the economy, etc. while ignoring the real reason for UKIP’s success, the elephant in the room – mass immigration. The Northern, white working class areas are where they need to concentrate their fire on, not true blue areas such as where I live. I voted UKIP yesterday for the EU elections but now I am back to being tribal Conservative.

      • Bill_der_Berg

        Put not your trust in princes or Dave.

      • Colonel Mustard

        “The big test here is for Cameron to recognise this and man up to the challenge.”

        Never happen. He might offer a few vague promises he has no intention of keeping. He is about the closest the Conservatives could get to having a Labour leader. A slippery, silly individual who has done untold damage to the prospects of his party.

        • Shazza

          Cameron performs best when he is under pressure. I think that Cameron, without the LibDem shackles, will be a very different leader.
          Under that charm I believe, lies a very different man from the one the public sees. I have seen flashes of steel in those eyes at PMQs and make no bones about it, he does not like losing.
          He won’t lose to Milibrain. His ego won’t let him.

          • Colonel Mustard

            But it is the steel of a spoilt and vindictive stubbornness not of inspiring leadership. In a broad church like the Conservatives you must find common ground to unite people not divide and rule. His responsibility should be to the party not his own petty values.

          • Bill_der_Berg

            He had better steel himself to discuss real ishoos (as Tony Benn would say) in the run up to the general election rather than relying on the ‘fruitcake’ approach.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            Cameron’s foreign spin doctors have planted the lie that he performs best when he is under pressure. His media lickspittles have passed it on, as do you.

            This clown is the anti-leader. He repels people. He fractures them. He has cut his party membership in half. And now we have electoral proof of that. He is a destructor.

            He is an anti-leader. And he is finished now. It’s time to move on. Waiting a year would be a mistake, after yesterday. It’s time to move on.

    • Smithersjones2013

      Well if anyone knows its Tim. He’s watched his ‘Conservative Grassroots’ blog perverted and corrupted into a superficial Westminster Bubble propaganda mouthpiece by Ashcroft and Goodman. There was a time when Conhome was worth reading. Now its not even worth ridiculing anymore (thats if their Chinese censorship policies haven’t seen you banned at least a dozen times).

      And to be banned multiple times by Conhome for telling it straight is I reckon a badge of honour!

  • Holly

    ‘The party now appears to be the main opposition to Labour in the urban north’……
    …Told ya.

  • TRAV1S

    Labour only gets votes through voter fraud and voter intimidation. Labour should be banned from parliament and Ed Miliband sent to the Tower.

    • myname stillmyname

      I take it you didn’t vote Labour then?

    • Shazza

      Funny how high immigration, ‘cultural enrichment’ areas vote Labour.

      Rubbing the Right’s noses in diversity is paying off, isn’t it?

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …you should ask your boy Dave, he’s the one doing it today.

  • George_Arseborne

    Now James, then Micheal Gove, Grant Green Shapps etc… Why are the Tories so happy when they are losing seats? I thought their long term plans for the nation would have put them in a better position.
    Is it a one term coalition rule after Labour suffer the worst election defeat in 2010. The Tories should be ashamed.

    • Shazza

      The Conservatives will win 2015 with a very small majority.

      The worst thing they can do now is agree to an electoral pact with UKIP. Cameron’s best chance for 2015 is to allow UKIP to make inroads into Labour white working class areas. Rotherham result illustrates this perfectly.

      If Cameron agrees to a pact with Farage, UKIP supporting Labour white working class voters will return to the Labour fold, en masse. They hate the Conservatives with a passion – remember how they behaved at the late great Lady Thatcher’s death.

      Any whiff of Conservative influence in these areas will be the kiss of death for both UKIP and Conservative 2015 victory.

      • Smithersjones2013

        AS Farage pointed out the vast majority of his supporters would decline any pact with Cameron’s broken dysfunctional party

        And as for the Majority where are the Tories going to get the 10 point vote share lead to ensure a majority. Remember with a lead of 7 points they couldn’t win a majority.

  • Lady Magdalene

    “They have given us into the hands of the new unhappy lords,
    Lords without anger and honour, who dare not carry their swords.
    They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
    They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.
    And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs,
    Their doors are shut in the evenings; and they know no songs.

    We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,
    Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.
    It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,
    Our wrath come after Russia’s wrath and our wrath be the worst.
    It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
    God’s scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best.
    But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
    Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.”

    G.K. CHESTERTON – The Secret People

    The arrogant, sneering Elite, who betrayed the British people, forgot that the English have a long history of popular revolts.

    WE SPOKE UP YESTERDAY. AND WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE SPEAKING UP.

  • Kitty MLB

    Well this quite tiny person may be a Tory ( yes I know hang, draw and quarter her)
    Yet she is happy that her purple plotting chums have some seats, some councils
    would be good for them too.
    The main parties have become very arrogant and complacent, they needed to wake
    up and smell the coffee, and they will now. So need to be grateful to Nigel Farage.
    And as my kipper chum Raddy has always wisely said UKIP are after the working
    class vote in the North. And I would say some parts of Landon too.

    • myname stillmyname

      I hope you’re right, but I suspect they’ll put on a show of “understanding” whilst failing to lift a finger. I don’t think they’ll change until we change them through the ballot box.

      Oh.. and I applaud everyone who votes, that’s what democracy is about, so well done you.

    • Shazza

      Agree Kitty. Please see my comments under George Arseborne above.

      From now on it’s full steam ahead for Conservatives.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        No, the Camerluvvies are finished. That’s the task ahead, to dismantle that crew, and all of socialist LibLabCon

  • myname stillmyname

    This is UKIPs “Normandie”, a crucial and impressive battle to win.. but still a long way to “Berlin”.. UKIP will get nowhere if they fail to capitalise. The key worry is if they become more professional they could lose the amateur feel that seems to have been a key aspect of their campaign.

    Fundamentally though without UKIP there would be no conversation about immigration.

    Disclaimer: I voted UKIP.

  • MirthaTidville

    One Labour council leader is reported as saying that UKIP are causing mayhem…wonderful news, thats what many of us in the country are desperate for. Something to break up the camomilliclegg tendency that has dragged this country down and made the lowest common denominator their gold standard

    • Shazza

      I gather from your name that possibly you live in Wales? I happen to know Merthyr Tydfil very well and wonder if areas like this will ever turn from Labour to UKIP. If you do live in Wales, I would be interested in your thoughts on this.

  • Hexhamgeezer

    No wonder the labs are sluggish. The client state hasn’t expanded and their imported voters haven’t got round to registering in sufficient numbers yet – even with their lifesaving postal organising.

  • Colonel Mustard

    Three minutes past eight. A blog only an hour old and already there are 10 “comments” by Labour’s resident propagandist, including the obligatory “tagged” top comment.

    Every other person’s comment has been “tagged”. Come on Spectator the idiot is making a mockery of your website.

    • telemachus

      You talk about the tagged top comment
      Telemachus was first to post and has refuted each piece of Trash as posted

      • Colonel Mustard

        Thanks for confirming that you have tagged everyone else’s comments, you control freak.

        To use the term “refuted” is laughable. Boasts, provocations and beyond barmy predictions are not refutations, you silly little red. It is obvious that you have been so badly rattled by your party’s disappointing results that you have launched into full Comical Teli mode.

        • Bill_der_Berg

          If telemachus is a Labour supporter he will be regarded as a running dog of capitalism by many of those to the left of him.

      • helicoil

        Look up “refuted” in the dictionary it’s not what your doing, you’re just behaving like a playground smartarse -you know, the one that everyone laughs at.

      • Adam Carter

        You have refuted nothing this morning; in fact I cannot remember you ever discussing policy or explaining your position.
        As I remember it, you confine yourself to brief comments, which you possibly think are pithy, and you make silly observations about ‘the charismatic one’ and other leftist figures.
        If you were to put forward a reasoned policy view then other commenters here could show you what ‘refute’ really means.

    • Tim Reed

      Come on Spectator the idiot is making a mockery of your website.”

      I agree entirely. It ruins every comment thread, and adds absolutely nothing.

      Time everyone learned to completely ignore it!!!!!!

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        The Spectator believes in keeping the nutters around for laughs, irrespective of the resulting damage to its credibility as a serious publication.
        “The Spectator? Isn`t that the weekly with those mad bloggers?”

  • colliemum

    If only UKIP can be happy with the results so far, James – why have a photo of Nigel Farage on top where he apparently looks dejected?
    Haven’t you got any photos of Clegg, Cameron or Miliband looking dejected? That would have been more suited to the content of this blog …

    • telemachus

      From today
      Miliband in particular will be buoyant week on week from now on
      This is the high point for Farage
      He knows it
      All downhill from Here on in

      • colliemum

        Yeah, sure, it’s just a few misguided protest voters who dislike the government economic policies, according to a Labour spokesman.
        After all, voters are simply eejits and must come back quickly into the arms of Mum and Dad, i.e. the Tory and Labour Party …

        • telemachus

          Most folks walking into the polls yesterday knew it did not matter to their household budgets
          Next May will be oh so different

          • Colonel Mustard

            Yes, from inside das national sozialist bunker poring over das map mit das little red lines it don’t seem zo bad. Once das vergeltungswaffen are ready everything vill change, you vill see…

            • telemachus

              You see we already have the opposition rattled

              • Colonel Mustard

                That’s you that is you muppet.

                • Kitty MLB

                  Just swat the little wasp Colonel.

              • helicoil

                We’re laughing at you not with you -monkey.

      • Harold Angryperson

        You sound like a Lord Haw Haw broadcast from April 1945.

        • telemachus

          Except that the so called opposition are actually on the decline from today

          • Harold Angryperson

            Just like 1945 then – soon you will have pushed them back eastwards across Poland and the Steppes all the way to Moscow with your imaginary divisions and new wonder weapons.

          • Colonel Mustard

            “…the so called opposition are actually on the decline from today…”

            So called opposition. That would be the Labour party then.

      • Colonel Mustard

        Comical Teli – as the shells fall heavily around his position and the tanks grind across his lawn he boasts about a devastating new offensive planned – once the current “situation which has developed not necessarily to Labour’s advantage” passes.

        • telemachus

          Remember Yeltsin
          We will stand on the tanks and prevail

          • Colonel Mustard

            I doubt it. You and your rotten party are a busted flush with Son of Communitht as leader.

            • telemachus

              Dacreism

              • Colonel Mustard

                National Socialism.

                • telemachus

                  Remind me which Councils Ukip will run

                • Colonel Mustard

                  That doesn’t matter. What matters is that you face an insurgency that is not going to go away. The harder you push the harder you will get pushed back.

                • global city

                  Your foot soldiers of the workers’ revolution have given up on the utopian nonsense, finally realising that the clique are only interested in dachas and perpetuating the peoples’ poverty.

            • Count Dooku

              Nice one!

          • helicoil

            You mean you’ll get someone else’s sons and daughters to stand on the tanks -your type are good at that.

          • Fergus Pickering

            Drunk, are you?

      • Kitty MLB

        The little wasp still having the early morning buzzathon I think.
        Maybe the silly season has come early .
        Its actually down hill for Labour who are heading for a epic fall.
        UKUP are your main competition in the North now.
        My wise ole kipper chum Raddy told me this would happen, years ago.
        They are after turning red to purple little wasp.

        • Shazza

          Agree with you again Kitty!

          From now on Conservative guns are going to be turned on Miliband/Labour big time. If we think that UKIP took flack from the media, we ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

          Tories need to never, ever stop pointing out that Labour are actually to blame for all our problems – from ‘cost of living’ crisis to housing/school places shortages, pressures on NHS etc. etc. The mantra about the car keys and crashing the car will be resounding from the rooftops.

          And of course, cheering this on will be the Murdoch press. Does Miliband really believe that his actions regarding Hackgate will be forgotten? That both Murdochs, senior and junior suffered public humiliation?

          Popcorn time coming up.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            Perhaps, but UKIP’s guns will be turned on all of the socialist LibLabCon clones. They are the problem. All of them.

          • Kitty MLB

            Shazza, totally agree. Conservatives need to stop being so apologetic about the cuts and everything else and point out
            that Labour left us on out knees. I also believe the knives are
            out within Labour for Milipede. They have been quiet until
            now. but no longer.

      • Jono

        I read through these comments regularly and there isn’t a day that goes by where you haven’t polluted these pages with your nonsense.

        Sometimes it seems you are even up commenting in the small hours when the rest of the population is catching up on some hard earned sleep.

        Whilst I clearly skip past your inane drivel I ask myself the same question daily……

        How utterly vacuous must your life be… You really must be one sad lonely old man.. How about turning a new leaf and get some other interests because ultimately all this effort you go to … No one here is actually interested..

      • helicoil

        Utter drivel as usual.

      • Bill_der_Berg

        Very soon the Red Flag will be flying over the People’s Stock Exchange.

    • Kitty MLB

      Do you suppose we might have a Conservative/UKIP
      coalition next year, Nigel Farage has hinted in that direction.
      Which i find confusing as UKIP are after the abandoned
      Working class voter, according to a wise old kipper
      blogging chum of mine.

      • Fergus Pickering

        It’s a good scheme. Cameron doesn’t like it but he’s expendable.

        • Kitty MLB

          I am mortified, I really am. Tempest in a teacup not Earl Grey
          in a teapot. Oh my poor esteemed leader, he’s expendable
          now. Well we will see about that. Besides Isn’t Cameron the
          type of chap one also would like to have a drink in a pub with.
          He drinks beer you know, unlike intellectual wine bar Milipede.

          • Fergus Pickering

            Being better than Millibum doesn’t really cut it. Here’s to Teresa May, the next Tory Leader.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              No, I doubt the illiberal Mistress May, Queen of Darkness, will be any more acceptable than your boy Call Me Dave, after the shakeout.

            • Kitty MLB

              Hold your horses.. honestly ! A deluded dung beetle would be
              better then Milipede. Cameron does very well when his back is
              against a wall. He would do even better if the wall wasn’t the
              yellow Lib Dum type. ( and he doesn’t need a purple cushion.
              Yes Fergus, at some point he will want to go, but not yet . And I agree the next
              Prime Minister should be a lady. Chaps I think need a little rest.
              Theresa May, she most certainly is a strong woman and much
              taller then me ( I am rather small) it matters that she is tall.
              and she is determined.
              Although I think Penny Mordaunt ( a touch of Thatcher about
              her) or Caroline Noaks Hampshire Tories are fearsome.

        • Holly

          I do not think Cameron has any option but to stop faffing about, have a ‘Teresa May’ moment and get back in line with the public.

          • Kitty MLB

            Holly. They do say Cameron relishes a Crisis, he comes to life when his back is against a wall and becomes a Conservative
            Prime Minister instead of a coalition PM.

            • Bill_der_Berg

              Dave had better make his mind up about where he stands on certain important matters.

              “David Cameron is a most reliable weather vane. Last week, surrounded by billionaire industrialists in Davos, the prime minister proclaimed that Britain would follow America in a single-minded drive to reduce its energy costs for manufacturers, via the oil and gas extraction process known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking.

              Last month, however, he told Tim Farron, president of the Liberal Democrats, that he agreed that man-made climate change arising from carbon-based energy production was the cause of the recent “destructive” storms in the UK.

              But then again, last November the PM told a group of Tories that he would be focusing on getting rid of all the “green crap”— part of his response to Ed Miliband’s pledge to freeze energy prices. Well, that’s coalition government for you — tell your own party’s backbenchers that you are fed up with excessive subsidies for giant onshore wind turbines and your Lib Dem colleagues that you are still “the greenest government ever”.

              (Dominic Lawson – The Sunday Times).

          • Fergus Pickering

            Expendable, as I said. Let’s get rid of him.

        • Colonel Mustard

          A presaging Cameron speech from 2007 (at Bath):-

          “I believe that we need a new liberal Conservative consensus on our country. Let me begin by explaining what I mean by this. I am a liberal Conservative.
          Liberal, because I believe in the freedom of individuals to pursue their own happiness, with the minimum of interference from government*. Sceptical of the state, trusting people to make the most of their lives, confident about the possibilities of the future – this is liberalism.
          And Conservative, because I believe that we’re all in this together – that there is a historical understanding between past, present and future generations, and that we have a social responsibility to play an active part in the community we live in**. Conservatives believe in continuity and belonging; we believe in the traditions of our country which are embedded in our institutions. Liberal and Conservative.
          Individual freedom and social responsibility.”

          * But not, apparently, when it comes to adults deciding what to look at on the internet.

          ** The communitarian/common purpose plug

      • Holly

        YUP.

        • Kitty MLB

          Do we actually like coalitions, all that babysitting and coalition agreements instead of a manifesto or two.
          Although Nigel Farage would like one with the Conservatives
          because of the EU referendum. But I cannot see Cameron
          agreeing. And UKIP are after the working class vote.
          Look at how going into coalition has damaged the Lib Dems.
          Besides the fact they are treacherous EU loving scoundrels .

          • global city

            The Lib Dems are obsessed with coalitions because they are ‘continental’! That’s how much they fetishise the project.

      • colliemum

        I think these are just conciliatory noises made by Nigel Farage.
        After all, he knows full well, better than the MSM commentariat, that it’s the local associations who will make these decisions, and from what I’ve heard the majority of them are against that.

    • Count Dooku

      The Tories seem to be doing quite well so far. They haave lost councils to NOC but it looks like with UKIP they can form righ-wing coalitions in large parts of the country.
      Labour’s result for an opposition party is just dire. And please to see the Lib Dems are becoming extinct!

    • Tim Reed

      “Haven’t you got any photos of Clegg, Cameron or Miliband looking dejected?”

      Don’t worry, Colliemum, there will be plenty to choose from after today. 🙂

      • colliemum

        Indeed – and I’m looking forward to them!
        🙂

  • Lucy Sky Diamonds

    Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration. Immigration.

    • telemachus

      And increases GNP
      And will support our ageing population to their centenaries
      Unlike Germany who will look forward to contracting wealth and old age poverty

      • colliemum

        Unlikely.
        Those of us who’ve learned some languages in school and look at German online sites know that they had 1,2 million immigrants in the last 12 months.
        Use google translate:

        http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/zuwanderung-zahl-der-auslaender-in-deutschland-auf-rekordhoch-a-970979.html

        • telemachus

          The Eurozone is poised to contract and deflation is setting in
          Germany is progressively losing its attraction

          • colliemum

            Sure. That’s why so many people from the €-zone are going there, right?

            • telemachus

              Not for very long
              *
              You have failed to counter the undoubted prosperity created by our own immigrants

          • Fergus Pickering

            So let’s stay in the EU as it gets worse and worse.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              …that’s what your guy Dave wants, lad.

      • Harold Angryperson

        Sod the plebs, eh?

        • telemachus

          No
          It is the plebs about whom we care
          And the plebs will deliver a famous victory

          • Kitty MLB

            Oh yes little pest, the plebs that you made plebs. And now the
            plebs are tired of being plebs and want to be purple plotters.

      • Lady Magdalene

        The unemployable the uneducated, car washers, Big Issue sellers, those from the criminal classes of Eastern Europe, beggars, prostitutes etc are not going to support our aging population.
        They are going to leech off us for decades.

      • Pootles

        Are immigrants a strange breed that don’t age themselves ? Or are you demanding some dreadful ‘guest worker’ status whereby immigrants can only work in the UK, but have to leave when they retire or get sick?

        • Colonel Mustard

          He can’t think beyond the slogan on the propaganda poster.

    • Kitty MLB

      Well excessive immigration was always going to hit
      the working classes the most. Its a pity Labour never
      thought about that before they opened the stable gates.

      • Lady Magdalene

        And it’s a pity Cameron’s done nothing to stop the hordes arriving from the EU.

        • Kitty MLB

          I have no idea how it works with the EU. If we could ever stop[
          the amount of people arriving. I find it rather odd, this is a somewhat small country. It would have always been more fair if they asked how many people first. But the fly in the ointment
          is not just those from the EU. But the huge amount we have here from middle eastern countries.

        • Holly

          To his detriment he hasn’t even attempted to get anything at all through Parliament!
          He has been far too bothered about what Nick and the Lib Dems think and has forgotten the voters.
          This WILL come back and bite him on the bum.
          The MSM would have done a great job for his prospects in 2015, because they would have been ‘banging on’ about how ‘weak he was’ etc, etc, etc, but the public would have seen it as Cameron trying to sort it, but could not without a majority.

          I reckon Cameron has blown it, and will have to do something pretty damned radical to stop many of us thinking he is being forced, against his will, to do something, instead of doing it because HE wants to.
          If you know what I mean.

      • Holly

        I got so caught up in this I didn’t get to bed until after 4am.(I know)

        A bloke from UKIP was having a ding dong with Emily Thornberry, and while she prattled on he told her that Labour’s biggest problem was that they have not connected immigration with some of today’s problems the country faces, and voters are genuinely concerned about.

        Adam Boulton enjoyed it nearly as much as I did….What a classic example of the calibre of today’s Labour party she is.

        • Colonel Mustard

          I find Thornberry repulsive and genuinely fear for the country if she should ever become AG. She is an arrogant, nasty piece of work.

  • telemachus

    Now the abreaction
    Real politicians must gird their loins and work for victory next May
    *
    Exposé the vapid nature of the interloper

    • Lucy Sky Diamonds

      Go away you middle class mummyboy.

    • helicoil

      You should really steer clear of the keyboard after you’ve taken your medication.

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