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Now the BBC is censoring the word ‘girl’ – it really is in a different world

25 May 2014

6:03 PM

25 May 2014

6:03 PM

It’s beyond parody, isn’t it? Mark Beaumont, a BBC presenter, has made a documentary about the Commonwealth Games and during the course of it he was filmed grappling with a judo champion. After he was sent crashing to the floor he said: ‘I am not sure I can live that down – being beaten by a 19-year-old girl.’ Mr Beaumont is 31.

So inflammatory was the remark that though it was broadcast in full when the programme was broadcast in April, it was removed for the repeat, presumably lest, as the broadcaster Mariella Frostrup observed, the word might come across as ‘dismissive’. I think we can assume that Mariella speaks for received opinion on these matters when she says ‘the BBC has to consider the sensitivities of everyone who might be watching’. I think Mr B will think twice before he uses the G-word again, don’t you?

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Shall I state the obvious? Men, as a gender, have greater upper and lower body strength and muscle mass than women, so when a man says he’s thrown by being thrown by a) a girl and b) a 19-year old, we can assume, I think, that it was a graceful compliment to the girl in question by drawing attention to her youth and gender in relation to his own abject performance. A lesser man might have intimated he’d let her win.

So, far from ‘girl’ being derogatory in this context it serves to emphasise the extent to which she has confounded his expectations in relation to age and sex. If he’d been pitted against her in a crossword competition or something to do with sums and had made the same remark, there might have been grounds for someone to go off in a huff. But this being a trial of strength as well as skill, the remark was neither offensive nor contentious. The BBC’s pre-emptive censorship of the G-word – following hard on its hysteria over the N-word – just goes to show that it does really inhabit a different world from the rest of us.

Maybe Taki, as a judo buff, could sensitively put the matter in context.


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  • global city

    BBC today.
    Blair is pretending that the EU is based on intergovernmentalism rather than supranationalism. This choice is never explained on the BBC or anywhere.

  • Marie Louise Noonan

    Hmmm…

    Thinking Emmanuel Goldstein and ‘Controlled Opposition’ here.

    • 70sgirly

      For BBC read Ministry of Truth.

  • Kitty MLB

    This political correctness nonsense is becoming more ludicrous by the day
    Nanny state must be placed in some retirement home, and out of our way.
    I was a Girl once and I believed in the tooth fairy… Gosh Horror what will the BBC say.

    • Liz

      Yes you were a girl once. But you weren’t rubbish at things or worse that men at things, particularly when if you were a champion at things.

      Get with the programme grandma. Making fun of girls is so pre-UN-Rapporteur.

      • Kitty MLB

        ‘Grandma’ How hilerious! I Think I have atleast
        2 or 3 decades to go first, but thank you , that made
        me laugh.

  • that was a backhanded compliment, therefore there shouldnt really be a problem with this fuss, its pretty reasonable

    • Liz

      I think you mean it was damning with faint praise.

      Wow: I got beaten by a GIRL. Everyone is going to laugh at me. For EVER.

      With compliments like that, who needs insults?

  • William Clark

    You get a criminal record if you have the temerity to refuse to finance this garbage.

  • Lucy Sky Diamonds

    thats london for you

  • Liz

    Why would a TV presenter imagine he could beat a judo champion at judo? Why does he think he wouldn’t he ever live down the totally inevitable outcome? Because he assumes everyone is as dumb as him?

  • Liz

    “So, far from ‘girl’ being derogatory in this context it serves to emphasise the extent to which she has confounded his expectations in relation to age and s*x. ”

    His expectations were evidently wrong and prejudiced ones then weren’t they.

  • Liz

    White men used to call black men, boys didn’t they.

    • vieuxceps2

      Yep. They called white boys that too.And they call white girls,girls.That’s because that’s what they are. Have they changed now?

      • Liz

        I said black MEN.

        And they call white WOMEN, girls.

        • vieuxceps2

          Yep(again). Boys are called boys and 19-year old girls are called girls.That’s the language.I don’t know this “they” who can’t speak normal English.Do you often meet “them” ? I don’t.

          • mohdanga

            “I don’t know this “they” who can’t speak normal English.Do you often meet “them” ? I don’t.” Don’t you know that all us white men are the equivalent of 1850s southern plantation owners?? Liz said so.

        • mohdanga

          “And they call white WOMEN, girls.” Quick, call the sensitivity police, we’ve got a major incident!!

          I’m 52. Every Thursday night after ice hockey I go out with ‘the boys’ for beers. My wife asks me “Are you getting together with the boys tonight for beers?”. All through my hockey career when encouraging each other on the bench the saying would be something like “C’mon boys, let’s pick it up”….this amongst a group of men well north of being boys. I suppose I should have been offended.

          • Liz

            Come back when you beat a woman at ice hockey and she says: I got beaten by a boy, I’m never going to live it down.

            • mohdanga

              Can you not distinguish between seriousness and deprecating comments? I’m sure this interviewer is not going to go to his grave worrying what other men think of him because he got beaten by a 19 year girl who is an expert at judo. If you asked him he would almost certainly say he was expecting her to throw him to the floor.

              And if a woman did say “I got beaten by a boy, I’m never going to live it down” all of us guys would laugh, not make anything of it and carry on with our lives instead of launching into some juvenile feminist rant about sexism.
              If I, as a non-gymnast, competed against a 14 year old girl who was an Olympic gymnast and she totally put me to shame would I not call her a girl? Or would that be ‘dismissive’?

        • mohdanga

          And Oprah calls women ‘girls’. “You go, girl!!”

  • global city

    being stuck inside that world truly must feel like being trapped in a never ending shoot of 1984.

  • 70sgirly

    The PC zealots at the BBC must scrutinise every word, every phase just desperately seeking to reveal the offensive content which in their paranoia they imagine is everywhere. Whereas actually ninety nine times out of a hundred, there is nothing offensive in what the BBC deem to be offensive, I mean “girl” for goodness sake!

    • global city

      extreme self flagelation, they love it when something slips through and they can retrospectively shout from the rooftops just how PC they are by imposing the most comical and restrictive punishments on themselves.

      That’s how the twisted world of political correctness works, it imposes punishment after punishment until the fetishist eventually dies.

      it is ran by the same sorts of people who run those suicide websites…. dirty little bastards who get a kick out of the pain they are causing by their demands on the most gullable and self loathing in society.

      it is all quite perverse, but nobody has a mind to bring it into check.

      All Liberal progressive leftists are, at heart sorry little ‘girls’ who loathe themselves and self harm because of guilt…. or something.

      • 70sgirly

        Agreed, they are pathetic. How the heck they’ve gained so much power to implement this nonsense is beyond me, they need putting out of their misery.

        • vieuxceps2

          No,it’s not the BBC that is pathetic. We are the ones who are pathetic as we allow our own language and therefore our own thoughts to be controlled by people with an agenda to push. I wish people would understand the insidious evil that is PC speech instead of treating it as a matter for hilarity.If you doubt this, read Orwell.Why don’t we all put a stop to it by using non-PCterms at every opportunity? Because we can’t now ,can we? See what I mean?

          • 70sgirly

            I can assure you I DO use non PC language at every opportunity, I know all about Insoc, the Ministry of Truth, Ignorance is Strength and all that.

            I do not think it’s a laughing matter, it is very very serious and quite frankly it scares me. Things like the BBC censoring the word “girl” should be mercilessly mocked for the ridiculous extremism, the doublethink that it is.

          • Kitty MLB

            Its the whole Leftie manipulation which trickles down society
            that brainwashes and removes and removes individuality.
            And the BBC are the worse culprits. We cannot even be trusted to know how to behave and must be told what words
            to use. Its actually very sinister. Some laugh at it but ..honestly.

    • Liz

      I expect it was the combo of calling a woman a girl, insinuating a girl should be rubbish at things, or at least worse than men, and the claim that people would mock him when that proved not to be the case. Don’t you?

      • 70sgirly

        No, I think whoever made this decision is a puritanical PC zealot who should chill out. Who on earth would see offence in calling a 19 year old girl, a girl?? FFS!

        • Liz

          So you decided to ignore what I wrote and write the same thing again. Well done.

  • drewswlon

    I understand that the new expression is “person entitled to menstrual leave”, except that St Joan of Bakewell has a view…

    • global city

      MENstrual? Check your bloody privilege!

      • vieuxceps2

        EmpowerMENt?

        • global city

          Check!

          Tis difficult this PC stuff… as it is intended to be.

      • Liz

        Chill out Eliot Rodger

  • GeeBee36_6

    Fifth attempt:
    If I adjudge the current situation accurately, it is now unacceptable
    to refer to H*** sapiens of the female [banned word alert – begins with
    s, then an e, finally an x] by anything other than, well, the biological convolution I’ve just employed. ‘Woman’ can easily be pejorative; ‘Lady’ is not at all to the liking of f*minists, who regard it as condescending; and now ‘girl’ has been sent to the undiscovered country, from whose bourn no English term returns.

    The Progressives’ assault on English, as predicted by Orwell, is proceeding apace. They must be very pleased with themselves (and how ironic thatr it has taken me so long, and I’ve had to disguise so many innocuous terms, just to get this post up).

    • Ricky Strong

      Fuck. That’s madness.

    • roger

      I was going to suggest ‘adult female human’ until i realised that like ‘woman’ it has ‘man’ in it, oops. Anyway, mixed wrestling can’t be legal can it?

    • global city

      at the end of the day, however, their purity usually means that they end up eating themselves. The race for proclaimed purity consumes the body at it’s heart.

      So long academe!

      • Geoff

        I wish someone would censor “at the end of the day”

  • GeeBee36_6

    I’ll get this blasted post up in some form if it’s the last thing I do. Then I’m off to cancel my decades old subscription to the Spectator. If posters are treated like children, what hope is there for free speech?

  • GeeBee36_6

    Wow! The Spectator bans the three letter word beginning with se and ending with x! And I was using it in its biological context. Why should any intelligent person bother trying to comment on such a babyish site?

    • manonthebus

      You could have written ‘gender’ if you really wanted to get a point across.

      • http://www.markgoodge.com/ MarkSG

        But gender and s*x are different things, and the kind of lazy writing which assumes they are the same tends to act against clarity.

    • Makroon

      It’s all part of Fraser Nelson’s Freedom of Speech campaign.

  • GeeBee36_6

    I have just had a post ‘moderated’ (i.e. banned by the word police at the once-great magazine whose blog this is) for reasons that utterly defy me. It was the most anodyne observation regarding the termd we are no longer allowed to use to describe, er, girls. Why is this childishness allowed?

  • ClausewitzTheMunificent

    I think the censorship is rather stupid, but then again so was the man. Judo is a defensive “martial art” designed by a short Japanese man to negate the advantages of strength and size, and weaponry, and thereby enable a physically weaker and unarmed individual to neutralise such an attacker. As such there can be no dishonour in being bested in Judo by a girl.

    • ClausewitzTheMunificent

      Whereas being beaten at a pure contest of strength might well be.

    • global city

      but…. it was supposed to inject a bit of humour, not attempt to spare his blushes, that’s all.

      He wasn’t really embarrassed or bested, it was a funny, a bit of wit, a little faux self depreciation.,

      First rule of death by political correctness….fuck context or actual intent.

      • ClausewitzTheMunificent

        I know, I know, I’m far too contrarian, a really bad habit I should probably curb. The fact of the matter is that I agreed with the meat of the article, but got slightly bothered by a minor detail.

  • Radford_NG

    There are those who spit out fury to the BBC if any one refers to a female person by the term `lady`.Presumably they are unaware that it is the word `woman`that can be used,in circumstances,as highly derogatory.(As in;”You stupid woman”:Rene Artois,in `Hello,Hello`[bbc1tv]).

    • GeeBee36_6

      You are right about ‘woman’. I recall more than one MSM pundit remarking that even before Gordon Brown called Gillian Duffy a bigot, they knew he was already in trouble as soon as they heard him refer to her as ‘that woman’.

      • Kitty MLB

        You are right actually. Lady is the most polite term, Female sounds
        like describing a biology lesson and chaps have to be careful how they say woman. But what about calling men, chaps as I do and
        I say fellows but never blokes.

    • Liz

      I think it’s the stupid part that is derogatory. Not the woman part. Unless you think there’s something wrong with being a woman, in which case you’re a sexist.

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