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Carnival of the Ukippers

20 May 2014

4:50 PM

20 May 2014

4:50 PM

Ukip’s we’re-not-racist ethnic minority carnival in Croydon always looked as though it was going to provide plenty of material for sketchwriters and critics. It was another attempt by the party to showcase its non-white members and candidates, with local candidate Winston McKenzie on hand too.

But the event aimed at spinning a line about the party’s open-mindedness spun out of control. The steel band told journalists they didn’t know they’d been booked by Ukip, and were pretty unhappy about it too. Then a group of protesters accused the party of being Nazis. Then McKenzie, explaining why Nigel Farage had pulled out of attending the event, described the town he is standing for election in as a ‘dump’ and ‘unsafe’ because it had been failed by successive governments.

Winston McKenzie on the phone to Nigel Farage.

Winston McKenzie on the phone to Nigel Farage.

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The Conservatives have become increasingly control-freakish about their big campaign days, excluding the press in favour of selected broadcasters so that the party can stage manage every moment as much as it possibly can. They even escorted a Telegraph journalist from an event yesterday. But the Conservatives at least have the advantage of large party organisation, many experienced spinners and (by and large) candidates who’ve had a bit of media training.

Ukip should be even more paranoid about controlling events, rather than leaving themselves so very open to ridicule like this. If booking a steel band without mentioning who the booking was for was naive, organising an event like this without wondering whether the risk of it descending into farce was foolish. The party’s supporters may argue that the event went badly because the media wanted it to go badly (that useful persecution complex again), but if you’ve got a media that wants an event to go badly, why organise an event with such colossal potential to do so?

It shows an unfounded confidence in the party’s ability to remain polished in an uncontrolled situation such as a street carnival where protesters and journalists can come and go as they please. Ukip may wish to avoid looking like a mainstream party that has spun itself into insincerity, but it surely also wishes to appear vaguely competent at organising a carnival, a drinking event in a brewery, or a campaign.

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  • transponder

    Oh give them a break fercrissake.

    Onward and upward, UKIP!

  • pobinr

    What is racist in being concerned about longer NHS queues?

    What is racist in being concerned about more congested roads?

    What is racist in being concerned about the worst housing shortage since WWII?

    What is racist in being concerned about no longer being a self governing nation?

    What is racist in being concerned about no criminal checks on who comes here ?

    What is racist in being concerned about classes full of kids that can’t speak English?

    What is racist in being concerned about more of England being concreted over for housing?

    What is racist in being concerned about higher house prices & rents due increased demand?

    What is racist in being wanting a points based immigration system the same as Canada, USA, NZ & Australia?

    What is racist in being concerned about mass immigration of unskilled labour who are entitled to more benefits than they pay in tax?

    What is racist in being concerned about mass immigration of unskilled labour who are only of benefit to slumlords & minimum wage employers?

    What is racist in being concerned about the fact we have no control whatsoever on the quantity or quality of who comes here from nearly half a billion people ?

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    • EricHobsbawmtwit

      Vote UKIP because a supporter posts an extremely obnoxious comment at the Spectator?

  • flaxensaxon

    Another Telegraph journalist, Dan Hodges, was also there. He wrote that he asked one of the protestors holding up an “I am Romanian” placard if he really was Romanian. The reply was, “I feel Romanian”

  • Smithersjones2013

    I am beginning to wonder whether UKIP have decided to play up to their amateur status purely because every time it causes metropolitan liberal elitist clones like Hardman to wet their knickers in glee at the thought of writing yet another article about how awful UKIP are whilst not realising that by writing such sanctimonious condescending smeary subjective intolerant drivel they are blowing a dog whistle as loud as a siren highlighting everything that most UKIP supporters and likely the majority of the electorate despise about the liberal elite.

    In particular can anyone recall a single blog post which actually dealt with the issues surrounding the EU? How about one considering the implications within the European Parliament of their being no British representation within the dominant EPP group?

    The big loser in this is political journalism because all we have seen is schoolyard sniggering and bullying from a political media that is nothing more than a hollow stooge for the establishment…

    PS And none of the liberal elite have the slightest idea how tediously false and untrustworthy such staged professionalism (as Hardman alluded to with the Tories) becomes. At least UKIP’s events are real.

    • Tigger

      Well, this working class pensioner agrees with her.
      Mind you, I’m the child of an immigrant. My ancestors on one side were Vikings, on t’other they’re from Scotland.

  • Conway

    The steel band told journalists they didn’t know they’d been booked by Ukip, and were pretty unhappy about it too. … booking a steel band without mentioning who the booking was for was naive” So the band presumably didn’t ask who was booking them?

    • Tigger

      If an individual booked a band in their own name, why should the band be expected to know it was on behalf of UKIP?
      Just another manic Monday …

  • callingallcomets

    The Tory party “stage manages every moment as much as it possibly
    can”……which is exactly why it has become less like a political
    movement and more like a corporate PR show where the audience is as much part
    of the stage managed presentation as BGT. UKIP is a living, vibrant force of
    nature driven by an enthusiastic membership – sometimes shambolic, always
    passionate – the equivalent spirit of a village fete. This might be the reason
    that it retains a certain measure of popularity.

    Secondly, and sadly, Ms Hardman has had months during which she could
    have visited Croydon and met up with Winston McKenzie and other black
    Croydonians and asked them why they supported UKIP…you know, Ms H, do an
    actual bit of shoeleather journalism. But no, you would much rather pop down
    there and mock Mr McKenzie and his friends……indeed there is almost a hint
    of a sub text here, y’know, coconuts, Uncle Toms, stooges…real black men and
    women or Sikhs or Hindus or Moslems would never support UKIP

    A shallow, cheap and patronising piece of hackery….

    • Chingford Man

      I doubt Ms Hardman ever leaves the Village to practise proper journalism. Better to hang around The Two Chairman and retail the gossip – who’s up, who’s down – as if anyone in the real world cares about it. I guess the slant of the story was decided before she reached Victoria Station.

      • transponder

        Exactamundo!

  • Mike Barnes

    Do journalists get paid per anti-UKIP story or is it more the case that you’ve got no choice and have to do it or you’ll be excluded from the Westminster bubble?

    • you_kid

      What do you mean? There are only loons on these pages, from top to bottom. Praise the Lord the journalism remains sane and objective.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …no, there are your sockpuppets from top to bottom on these pages, you socialist nutter.

        • you_kid

          where dude? Are you too obsessed with my posts to note that no one on this blog opposes the UKIP lunacy? No one! Hardly ‘demographic’ that, lad – don’t you think?

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …how’s the goat sockpuppet, lad?

  • Bill_der_Berg

    So the event was lacking in slickness! Well, Blair was slick, Clegg is slick, Cameron is teetering on the edge of slickness and what good has come of it, eh?

  • the viceroy’s gin

    You’re doing fine, lass.

    You’re right at your level.

  • andagain

    The Conservatives have become increasingly control-freakish about their big campaign days,

    These campaign days are theatrical events. I imagine most theatre directors want to control what gets seen on stage, too…

    • the viceroy’s gin

      Yeah, it’s mighty important to properly stage a 3rd place humiliation, as we know.

      • you_kid

        Yes, we ALL (!) want to see that. To give the Unionist party are right slapping down they deserve, just in time for the September fireworks. All is going exactly to plan …

        • the viceroy’s gin

          …so you fascists will be opening the camps soon, to execute your plan?

          • you_kid

            No lad, you are the nat socialist here, not me.
            Those camps are your fantasy, never mine.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              …yes, all you fascists whimper when you’re exposed. That’s how we know you’re fascists.

              • you_kid

                whimper, exposure, fascists …
                lad, you should hear yourself, read it out loud what you wrote. You are the one obsessed with totaler Gleichschaltung. Don’t you think we all remember how it was you going all ‘Mosley spastic’ when you first encountered the phrase?

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …can any of you other socialist nutters translate this nutter’s fascist whimpering?

      • you_kid

        Yes, we ALL (!) want to see that. To give the Unionist party are right slapping down they deserve, just in time for the September fireworks. All is going exactly to plan …

  • Eyesee

    UKIP is racist only because the three same-as-each-other parties say they are and are supported by their compliant media chums. The United Kingdom Independence Party basically wants the UK to have control of its own affairs (by having its own parliament, for instance), which to the best of my knowledge isn’t racist (although it is difficult to tell what the Marxists are claiming the word means today). It is much, much more likely that the actions of the steel band are racist in the classical definition of the word. The Westminster bubble and its coterie are making an enormous froth about UKIP only because it represents the wishes of the majority of the UK population (even if you wouldn’t actually want its members as your actual MP). Policies it seems, despite the fervent hopes of the three stooges, are important to the people. The only answer for Cameron/Clegg/Miliband is to end democracy here, which brings us neatly back to the EU and the importance of UKIP. Its like this; I’m not saying that some of UKIP’s members aren’t corrupt, but what the party stands for is the removal of Britain from much of the opportunity for corruption. That’s something that appeals to ordinary people, but as we see, drives career politicians into a frenzy.

  • Lady Magdalene

    UKIP is out there, meeting the people.

    Cameron sits on the Breakfast sofa, safely protected from the people AND any kind of intelligent questioning.

    Miliband is invisible.

    Clegg is still smarting after the pasting Farage gave him.

    The thing with UKIP is, we’re not a centrally-controlled Party – unlike the professional micro-managers coordinating Cameron’s quiff and soundbite of the day.

    This carnival would almost certainly have been arranged by the local Association …. and all credit to them.

    • Conway

      I hear that Miliband doesn’t know how much a week’s shopping costs (why should he, I expect he claims it on expenses having got somebody else to do it for him?) but even more damning, doesn’t know the name of the candidate he was supporting! Once he’d been told who the chap was, he burbled on about him doing an excellent job as leader of the council. Pity it’s a Conservative controlled council, but never mind. Accuracy was never Miliband’s strong point.

  • Bill_der_Berg

    The more I hear of UKIP, the more I like them.

  • alabenn

    You obviously were not there and have tapped out a pointless missive, getting in on the stab UKIP in the back brigade will not further your career, Hookeslaw does it for free, although with less joined up thinking.

    • Smithersjones2013

      Thats not fair. Hardman’s thinking is just as disconnected from reality as Hooky’s He’s just more rude about it!

  • Alexsandr

    Waheyy. another speccie UKIP slur rant. Well done.

  • you_kid

    No Morris Dancing? Wot is goin’ on?

    • Bill_der_Berg

      Banned by the government. It’s not diverse enough.

      • Laguna Beach Fogey

        It’s the wrong kind of diversity.

  • Mr Creosote

    ” Then McKenzie, explaining why Nigel Farage had pulled out of attending the event, described the town he is standing for election in as a ‘dump’ and ‘unsafe’ because it had been failed by successive governments.”

    Sorry Issy, I can’t see anything wrong with that….this is simply Winston calling “a spade, a spade”, as all kippers do. I realise that such a blunt approach is entirely outside your experiential sphere, but that is how the rest of us think and why UKIP chimes so strongly with us ordinary folk.

  • MalcolmRedfellow

    This one gets better all the time.

    In the Daily Mail comments we encounter this:

    “Shouted down by ‘rent a mob’ will not stop democracy in this country, the march of UKIP will continue to build on their success all the way to the ballot box. We want out of Europe and decide our own future.”

    If the unhappy proximity of “democracy” and a militaristic “march” makes the neck-hairs tingle, so might the dateline of that effort: “Charles Dutton, Tangier”.

    I didn’t appreciate that Morocco was actually in the EU.

    • Bill_der_Berg

      Would you prefer ‘the stroll of democracy” or even the ‘waltz of democracy’?

      ‘Tangier’ could well be the name of a restaurant serving Middle Eastern food, although I’m not completely sure.

    • Lady Magdalene

      Perhaps he’s on holiday.

    • Denis_Cooper

      Morocco isn’t in the EU. It applied to join in 1987 but its application was rejected. However the matter is not entirely closed.

      • Conway

        If the EU has its way it will be, soon. They are looking to expand around the Med (into Africa).

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