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The kidnapped Nigerian girls are Christian. Why doesn’t our media say so?

8 May 2014

4:47 PM

8 May 2014

4:47 PM

Gradually but explosively, what Boko Haram, the Islamist terror group, has been doing in North East Nigeria has penetrated the mainstream from the social media. On 14 April Boko Haram (meaning ‘Western Education is Forbidden’) abducted more than 230 girls from a boarding school. Most are still missing. Abubaka Shekau, Boko Haram’s leader, obligingly gave a videoed explanation: ‘I abducted your girls; there is a market for selling humans. Allah says I should sell – he commands me to sell.’

The fact that these are girls, at least, makes their plight of international political and media interest. Feminism is an easy fall-back position for the foreign policy/human rights community. For that, the girls and their parents may yet have reason to be grateful. It allows the British Foreign Secretary to tweet that ‘using girls as the spoils of war and the spoils of terrorism is immoral’. But what neither the UK nor the US authorities is prepared to draw attention to is that these girls – all or nearly all of them – are Christians.

Boko Haram might, indeed, abduct Muslim girls from school because it thought they should be back at home, to be covered up, beaten, and to make the soup. But it would only dare to sell Christians into slavery and prostitution. Not only are they Christian. It is their Christianity which caused them to be victims.

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These and other abductees were at schools in the Christian enclave of Chibok in Borno State. The region is the scene of systematic Islamist persecution and intimidation. Chibok, itself, was regarded as safe, until Islamists arrived to burn down the market, destroy houses, steal, kill, and abduct at will. Full, credible, detailed accounts are available through the Christian on-line networks.

Yet commentators still seem content to exercise self-censorship. The religious identity of the girls has not been mentioned in the mainstream US or British media.

The words ‘poverty’, ‘corruption’, and ‘incompetence’ figure largely, and with some justice, in explanations of what is dysfunctional in Nigeria. But the word “Christian’ is notable by its absence in explaining what happened in Chibok.

Nigeria is, in truth, the scene of a brutal religious war being fought by jihadists against Christians. But don’t expect the White House or Downing Street, let alone Foggy Bottom or the FCO, to own up to it.

Robin Harris was an advisor to Margaret Thatcher and is the author of Not for Turning: The Life of Margaret Thatcher

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  • Katabasis

    You really need to even ask why?

  • Barb

    As to the stoning of Bible believers in Dearborn MI in the USA if it had been the other way around the whole world would have seen the Islamik world rise up and skream bloody blue murder, and every world leader inkluding the pope would have been sending their well wishes to the vikitms, and having a moment of silense and ekumenikal prayer to a komfortably, neutral, plasebo god. for their fast rekovery and every phykologists in the west would be knoking on their doors to give them help for the trauma. but as it is, the stoning of evangelikal ministers, is not even on the mainstream news, its only on the net. and only if you know about it already and kan see it for yourself.

    and we would be hearing about it annually on the day it happened for all time they would be memorialized, by the muslim world as maryters for all time there would be a spesial holiday set aside just for them, and all muslims would be giving presents and having spesial dinners and mosk servises.

    And we kristians would be demonized and beaten up where ever they went , more then they already are, it would be open season on us everywhere.

  • Nate

    Given that the likes of Boko Haram and other Muslims in the region are largely the descendents of those who once enslaved non-muslims (and sold them for a time to Western nations though mainly to Arabs and each other), those seeking reparations for slavery would be better for focusing their attention on the likes of Boko Haram (that to this day practice slavery) and all who support them instead of Western nations that have long ago banned slavery.

  • ArchiePonsonby

    Evidently Hard-luck Geoffrey of the Hat, the so-called President of Nigeria did nothing because the girls are of a different tribe! His wife however had one of the girls’ mothers arrested when she she appealed to her for help! Yet again, the U.S. and G.B. are riding to the rescue, whilst the Arabs with more money than sense are sitting on their hands. Sound familiar? Anyone know just how much Nigeria has ripped bus off for in Foreign Aid since independence?

  • colin patterson

    Robin – here’s a question you’ll never ask. The state-terrorists who destroyed Iraq, and continue to terrorize Afghanistan and Pakistan are Christian (Blair, Bush et al.). Have you ever asked why our media have never mentioned this glaring fact? I suspect I can answer this myself – according to your worldview, our leaders (white, christian, wealthy, suited and civil) can be called out for minor things such as parliamentary expenses, but can never be declared guilty of savage acts of state terror, even when this is manifestly true. Such crimes can only ever be attributed to brown-skinned non-christian leaders of uncivilized countries.

    In keeping with your crusader-throwback mentality, us good Christians are always the victims, and nasty Muslims are always the aggressors. This despite Fallujah and so on.

  • baboulie

    if they are Christians why are they all wearing Hijabs?

    • ArchiePonsonby

      They are forced to do so by their captors. Do keep up!

  • baboulie

    Its about poverty, inequality and injustice. All radicalism is.

  • jesseventura2

    Does anyone think these girls will not be raped by these disturbed muslim vermin?
    Drones are no good a for these animals B52s dropping a huge payload on them will make the dogs reconsider their islamic nonsense.

    • ArchiePonsonby

      Spot on, Governor!

  • Cincinnatus

    Leading the charge in the UK, in what amounts to a disinformation campaign, is the Guardian. Just a few days ago the main feature on its website was an article headlined: “Muslim girls around the world react to the Nigeria kidnapping”

    Again, no mention of the fact the kidnapped girls came from a Christian village and are predominantly Christian. To the contrary the article implies they are Muslim. Meanwhile the “Muslim girls around the world: who are interviewed all state how wonderful Islam is for women.

    According Amel Saleh Khamis Jouban, 18, from Yemen she does ” not feel threatened by any kind of patriarchal attitude”, yet she is wearing the full veil. My comment pointing out the contradiction was removed from The Guardian website as it apparently breached “community standards”.

  • Terry Field

    8,000,000,000 humans.
    Most stupid.
    Misery is a permanent condition.
    Eat chips.

  • http://Thegrouse.tumblr.com The Grouse

    Can we please finally get beyond the irrational notion that all cultures, religions and world views are equally valid and useful. These medievalists have nothing to teach a civilised human about how to live a dignified life. Our freedoms and the tolerance they bring have been hard won and should not be taken for granted. Do unto others as youhave them do unto you, know thyself and to your own self be true are not concepts that need any reform or improvement.
    At its best our civilisation is a respectful, tolerant and compassionate one – in the sage words of The Manic Streetpreachers – “if you tolerate this, then your children will be next”.

    • ArchiePonsonby

      “Can we please finally get beyond the irrational notion that all cultures, religions and world views are equally valid and useful.” Never have subscribed to that bilge, me. Events have proven me right for as long as I can remember!

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Big picture time: The world`s facing an over-population problem. Muslims are a pain in the donkey. Catch my drift?

    • TheVoiceofReasonII

      Time for the “showers”? Will soap production be positively impacted?

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        “If he opens his big mouth again it`s lamp shade time.”

  • http://charlesfrith.blogspot.com/ Charles Frith

    Only demented Spectator readers have no idea that the CIA sponsored Boko Haram from a rag tag to fundamentalist army.

    • Keith D

      Amazing you gleaned that from the comments here. Or did you just make that up?

      • cbinTH

        Eh… how did the CIA sponsor Boko Haram??

    • cartimandua

      BH is the result of Muslim overpopulation, child marriage, polygamy and of course abuse of females.
      Nigeria has a very high birth rate and a very high child marriage rate in the north at least. They produce a lot of low IQ nuts.
      So what the CIA put something “in the water”?

    • SoCalPatriot

      Sorry, but you sound like an imbecile. Like the Frog who wrote a book blaming George Bush and the Israeli Mossad for the 911 attacks. Perhaps you should pursue a theory that Maggie Thatcher’s ghost and MI6 may have trained and supplied the fanatic Jihadist groups in Africa. The MSM refuse to refer to the girls as Christian, instead calling them “school girls.” They don’t want to appear as anti-Islamic by being truthful in their reporting. What we used to just call good journalism now takes a back seat to political correctness and leftist political agenda. The new anti-Christian media and governments will not allow the Christians to defend their lives and faith against the Islamic onslaught all over the world. Sadly, these atrocities will continue. Partly due to the Western “Anglo” populations refusal to have children, the vacuum will be filled by Muslims and (in the US) by Mexicans, Guatemalans and Salvadoreans. The UK government will begin to allow more Sharia courts to be set up, it’s teenage daughters to be drugged and raped by Muslims and it’s men to be slaughtered in the streets. Get used to it.

  • DrCrackles

    Telemachus blames Christian missionaries ultimately for the plight of these Christian girls! It was Christianity that shone a light into the spiritual darkness of Africa that the secular West and Islam wants Africa to return to.

    Telemachus, it is the past actions of these brave and determined people that will ultimately be the salvation of Britain. We will be saved from the parasitism of people like you by those who have a distant love for this nation because of the work by our righteous forebears.

  • Sapporo

    For the same reason, the “useful idiots” in the media are smearing the reporting and, subsequent unrest, about the stealth use of Halal meat across the UK, as “racist” and “Islamaphobic”. The political/media elite are the true enemies of the people.

  • Fergus Pickering

    Boko Haram are muslims. Nothing atrocious they do should surprise us.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    “From the Halls of Montezuma
    To the Shores of Tripoli;
    We fight our country’s battles
    In the air, on land and sea”
    Thomas Jefferson had no truck with the Barbary Coast pirates that attacked US merchant shipping and imprisoned sailors, claiming as justification that the Koran gave them the right to treat infidels as they wished. Jefferson had the US Navy destroy their cities.

  • Bonkim

    The west is not about to embark on a 21st century Crusade to save Christianity or what passes as Christianity in Nigeria and elsewhere in the world.

    • cartimandua

      But we don’t have to pay for abusive cultures or condone them.

      • Bonkim

        Who is asking you to do that?

        • cartimandua

          Aid and trade?

        • SoCalPatriot

          The UK government (the taxpayers) pays a nice yearly sum to Imams to live there and preach bloody Jihad in Mosques. Here in the States, our leftist politicians embrace the Jihadis and attack any person who opposes them or raises questions as not supporting “diversity” and beyond the pale.

          • Bonkim

            What makes you think UK Govt is paying the Imams?

            • SoCalPatriot

              2 years or so ago there was a brief story run in the States about a Jihadi Imam who was preaching bloody Jihad in his London mosque. It mentioned that he was receiving the equivalent of $40K (US) yearly from the UK taxpayers as “welfare” payment. Probably easy to Google, especially for the folk who live in the UK and are more familiar with how the government works and how they coddle these types.

              • Bonkim

                $40K/year is not that high and if this chap had a family and in receipt of benefits – that is usual social security. Regardless of his political or sectarian beliefs and others not agreeing with that everyone in Britain get social security the need, alsolegal protection. That is the sign of a civilized country and Jihadis and other extremists would not be allowed to destroy the rule of law. If anyone does something against British law – would be hauled through the courts.

                • SoCalPatriot

                  I’m not at all surprised that most UK taxpayers are not concerned with giving their tax money over to those who would destroy their nation and think that British Law means anything anymore. Don’t look now, but your power structure is looking the other way at the Jihadis’ atrocities and allowing a parallel Sharia justice system to be established. And the sternest language is reserved for those who value their nation and object. You are losing your nation, friend.

                • Bonkim

                  Nation and nationalism – are the premise of those that don’t have much else to cling to. Jihadi atrocities will be taken care of successfully without letting street mobs loose as you are suggesting.

  • faithmcdonnell

    THANK YOU so much, Robin Harris, for speaking the truth. Boko Haram has been slaughtering Christians in north/central Nigeria for years now with hardly a whimper from the international community, let alone a hashtag war!

  • chudsmania

    We could always send telemachus…..What could possibly go wrong ?

  • chudsmania

    Another bonkers post. They’d have took them regardless of religion. They dont care , anyone is fair game to these nutters.

  • cause is just

    Islam was born in a time where slavery was very common in the world, however
    Islam banned slavery and in many cases Muslims who were able financially
    used their wealth to buy slaves and free them and many of them were not muslims….

    Slavery in Christian Europe was so
    common to a point where you were whether a Noble who owns the slaves or a
    slave…..When Islam entered Spain abolished this practice ..

    You do remember that the European are the ones who introduced slavery in North America importing them form Africa they were not the Muslims…don’t forget that

    Give us a break with your bigoted minds…it is obvious this group uses from Islam only its name, they are as ignorant as goat can be …

    • Adam Carter

      I suspect you are a nmohammedan.
      The ‘prophet’ of Islam had carnal knowledge of a 9 year old girl.
      Mohammedans believe that he was a perfect example.
      I disagree.

    • cartimandua

      To this day Muslims make laws which permit slavery and child marriage based on Islam, so no it didn’t “ban slavery”.

    • Porphyrogenitos

      Islam banned slavery

      Complete tosh. Islam has always allowed slavery of non-Muslims. It is no coincidence that the two African countries where chattel slavery still exists are Mauretania and the Sudan, both Muslim. Slavery was only banned in KSA in 1962 under western pressure.

    • balance_and_reason

      Crap….the Barbery coasts were taking slaves from the southern european coast and Cornwell, Devon , including one of my own forebears. Slavery continued on the east coast of Africa, through places like the Yemen right into the 20th century, and may even still be going on in a small way there today…please do not make stuff up just to suit your slant.

    • SoCalPatriot

      I don’t know why you would embrace Muslim Jihad and deny that they actively enslave Christians and others even now. That is, when they are not slaughtering them. You seem a Mohammedan or just mentally backward or damaged.

  • Newcombe

    That Oxford, Rochdale, Telford, Derby etc. grooming rings of Muslim men also only preyed on under age white Christian girls.

    • Bonkim

      Were they Christian?

      • Jimmy R

        Where any of the girls Muslims?

        • Bonkim

          Check the Police records?

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Nominally.

    • Sapporo

      Just last week, four Pakistani descended Muslims were found guilty of the rape and abuse of a child in the small, market town of Chesham (population 20k). It was unreported in the MSM. These paedophile gangs have systematically raped hundreds, possibly thousands of children across the Country for 20 years – since it was first revealed in Yorkshire by the MP, Anne Cryer. The Authorities and the Media have covered it up and are complicit in these crimes.

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        The BNP were on the case but nobody listened.

        • SoCalPatriot

          Patriotic people who love their country and oppose those who would destroy it are demonized by corrupt government officials, labor union thugs and brainwashed college students and their faculty masters. They work to “de-normalize” us, especially in “news” reportage.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Don`t forger Cambridge.

  • Colonel Mustard

    The Victorian response to this sort of thing was much more robust. But the idiots in Parliament thought dismantling Pax Britannica and emasculating our armed forces was a good idea. You reap what you sow and this sort of terror and sectarianism will soon be here too.

  • cartimandua

    Feral low life men can only get a wife by stealing one.

  • Ron Todd

    Given that this is the type of people our army will have to fight in the future (hopefully not in this country) do we really want to have women in the front line?

    • cartimandua

      Absolutely. They wouldn’t hesitate but we already have had women in the front line in intelligence and as medics and as bomb disposal.

  • swatnan

    Absolute rubbish. Boko Haram hate even their fellow moderate Muslims who are content to lie amicably with others of different Faiths. The fact they are Christian is immaterial. Their tenet is to stop all girls getting an education, western or otherwise.
    They are fanatics of the worst kind and the sooner they are eliminated the better. The same goes for the Lords Army and other crazed religious sects. The World has to wake up to this kind of Fundamentalism and squash it, completely.

    • andagain

      Traditionally, it was a violation of Islamic Law to enslave a fellow Muslim (althought they were not bound to free someone who converted after enslavement). So probably he is right: they would not have enslaved the girls had they been Muslim.

      And they have killed quite a few people becasue they were Christian.

      • Alexsandr

        but if the girls were not the right sort of muslim then one would assume they would be fair game.

      • cause is just

        . Islamic law does NOT allow enslavement period whether you are muslim, christian , or other….

        Islam banned slavery and no Muslim is allowed to own slaves…

        This Bako Haram group uses Islam to advance their cause and gain legitimacy but it is obvious they are a bunch of retarded ignorant people that ignore the basic principals of Islam

        • Adam Carter

          Are mohammedans not allowed to enslave those of their ‘right hand’, or you lying?

        • rodger the dodger

          Rubbish. They are following basic principals of Islam to the letter.

        • andagain

          Islamic law does NOT allow enslavement period whether you are muslim, christian , or other….

          An assertion that would have surprised a great many Islamic jurists over most of the last fourteen centuries. Modern legal opinion may have turned against it – I would not claim to know. But it was certainly regarded as legal in the days of the Jainissaries or the Barbary corsairs.

        • Keith D

          Liar.

        • Andy

          Lies, lies, lies. Slaves were freely traded in Mecca in 1925 ! Slavery was legal in Saudi Arabia until 1962.

        • MissDemeanor

          tell that to my Phillipino maid who worked in Saudi, was beaten regularly, had her passport confiscated, and worked pretty much 24/7 straight for 10 years!

        • balance_and_reason

          What does islamic law say about grooming under age non-islamic girls, and gang banging?

        • SoCalPatriot

          Slavery is going on all over the Islamic-controlled world. Even one so retarded ignorant as you should see this.

    • SoCalPatriot

      Apparently, you seek to set up a straw man argument by claiming a “Christian” equivalent to the bloody Muslim Jihadist outrages. BH is animated by Islamic belief and the Koran. I don’t know of any “Christian, Hindu or Buddhist” parallel in present day reality. You are delusional.

  • JoeDM

    And when will Boko Haram start operating in our inner-cities? Our schools are being infiltrated by extremist islam. What next?

    I cannot imagine a more frightening prospect !!!

    • Liberty

      That is why we must support Michael Gove. Imagine what would happen if it was Tristram Hunt working through a Labour local authority – when 100s of 1000s of Labour voting immigrants are being brought in as would happen with a Labour/LD government post 2015. Birmingham would be more like Mogadishu by 2020.

      • vieuxceps2

        “More like Mogadishu “- Do you mean more than it is now?

        • SoCalPatriot

          Here in the city of Flint (a suburb of Detroit in the US), Muslims have been infesting it for years. They have Muslim “festivals,” and when some young Christians walked over to near the festival area to hand out printed materials, young Muslims gathered, cursing them and bombarding them with chunks of concrete and bottles and what not. The “police” showed up, told them they had no rights and had to leave. Leave not just the “Festival” area, but all surrounding areas. Then proceeded to arrest them (the Christians). The Mayor is OK with this. This is our future. If you have a strong enough stomach, you can watch the Youtube videos they posted. Not to compare it to the “Drummer Rigby” atrocity.

          • ArchiePonsonby

            We always assumed that you Yanks had more balls than to put up with that stuff. At least you have guns to back up your point of view, unlike us!

          • despairingly

            I want to believe you, SoCAlPatriot, I really do. But I don’t. In fact, I think you’re totally full of shït.

            • Barb

              What he said about muslims throwing stones at the kristians at the Arab FestivaL is true see the video muslims stoning kristians in Dearborn MI. USA its on line. they threw everything they kould get their hands on and gave them nasty injuries. see for yourself if you really want to know the truth.

              sorry for the poor spelling the see key on my keyboard isn’t working, having to use the k to spell some words.

    • MissDemeanor

      soon soon

      we already have the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hizb ut Tahrir, Hamas and Al Qaeda in the UK, no worries, Boko Haram will soon set up a little travel agency in Tower Hamlets, or a bookshop.

    • Terry Field

      Didn’t Boko Harem write ‘a whiter shade of pale’??
      They were good

      • DaiCadno

        Yes, a real shame they didn’t stick to writing Hammond organ based pop songs.

      • PJ Morrissey

        Correction: Keith Reid of Procol Harum wrote the lyrics of a Whiter Shade of Pale in 1967.

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Skip the light fandango?

        • ArchiePonsonby

          “The room was humming harder as the ceiling flew away”. The writer was evidently a devotee of Orange Sunshine!

    • Terry Field

      “Abubaka Shekau, Boko Haram’s leader, obligingly gave a videoed explanation: ‘I abducted your girls; there is a market for selling humans. Allah says I should sell – he commands me to sell.”

      The Home Office tells me to ‘celebrate the difference’

    • SoCalPatriot

      Sir, they will be welcomed into your cities and towns by your elected leftist officials. And if you or any one else opposes their drugging/raping of your daughters, butchering of men and setting up of a parallel Sharia Law system, then you are Islamophobic and a bigot! You will need to be taken away in shackles! Get with the new program!

      • despairingly

        I have an idea, SoCalPatriot. Why don’t you go fück yourself?

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Game Over Britisher pals. Unless you elect UKIP or even Nick`s fun loving boys.

      • ArchiePonsonby

        Many a true word spoken in jest!

  • Raw England

    Imagine what these scum would do to White girls…..

    And then remember that we’ve actually imported millions of these people into our country, and they’ll eventually be the majority.

    • greggf

      True Raw, but the worst of it is nobody’s listening…..!

      • telemachus

        We hear
        We ignore
        We refute

        • Adam Carter

          You do not refute.
          You offer no analysis or argument at all.

        • Fergus Pickering

          You cannot refute if you ignore, you old Stalinist son of a gun, you.

          • telemachus

            We need to ignore and take no action on the bleating
            However as responsible citizens we read comments and criticism which allows us to confidently refute them and therefore be confident in ignoring them

            • helicoil

              You deny and bandy insults about, you don’t refute anything.
              If you can -do so … *tumbleweed*

        • vieuxceps2

          You do not hear.
          You do ignore.
          You do not refute.

        • greggf

          Yes TV, it’s clear you don’t LISTEN.

        • oldestel

          How the f**k can you refute something by ignoring it?
          Do you even know what the word refute means?
          You made more sense when you were drunk.

    • telemachus

      You talk utter garbage
      These African misfits have nothing in common with the mainstream peaceful Muslims in the UK

      • Adam Carter

        I say that the ‘mainstream peceful Muslims in the UK’ are like that largely because they are in the minority.
        Islam mandates the subjugation of non-muslims in an Islamic society.
        I challenge you to refute that.

        • chudsmania

          Thats a no then………

        • telemachus

          And Christianity has had no similar aims?
          What was the justification for the Scramble for Africa
          Which of course is the fundamental wrong behind Boko Haram

          • vieuxceps2

            Whataboutery rules, eh Tele? That should make the kidnapped children feel better,eh?

            • telemachus

              Indeed
              They need to be smashed
              Delay is indefensible
              That does not however absolve ourselves and our missionaries of responsibility

              • vieuxceps2

                “OURselves”,” OUR responsibility”. No, don’t include me with any guilt of yours,Boko Haram are African Muslims They did it .Not me.

          • Andrew Smith

            Scramble for Africa = great power competition / imperialism / trade route “protection” / prestige. How was Christianity responsible for the occupation of Egypt in 1882???

        • Amir

          I agree with Adam- having lived in Saudi and being a Moslem myself … unfortunately its true. BTW what are the 57 Moslem countries and 1.5Billion Muslims doing about this except issuing press statements?

      • Fergus Pickering

        Except their vile religion, old fruit.

        • telemachus

          I read that Islam means the religion of peace

          • Keith D

            Why are you protecting that evil cult? Serious question.

            • telemachus

              Serious answer
              This is the second biggest world religion
              It is followed by a few million of our population
              We have to find a way to live with them rather than mindless name calling

              • Keith D

                OK. I do hear that and wish it was reciprocated. Its not.

                We give them a window of opportunity, they will destroy us along with civilisation. You know it as well as I.
                Its mandated in their book, as you also know.

                • telemachus

                  It is our job to reach our
                  Only the fanatics take your reading of the Koran as dictat

                • Keith D

                  Of which there are far too many. Should we just let them continue their war on civilisation unchallenged? Its not our job, its theirs to change, they wont.

                • Paul Weston

                  Only the fanatics took the words and articles of Marx and Hitler as dictat. And look what happened…..a violent and fanatical minority always dominates a peaceful majority.

                  Stop feeding the crocodile you appeaser.

                • ItinerantView

                  Yes a substantial percentage of fanatic Muslims agree with that.
                  Not least the biggest sponsor of supremacist Islamic ideology in the world,the Saudis and various other Gullf-States.

              • Fergus Pickering

                Rather what you would have said about the Germans in the 1930s, I take it. And about Stalinism. However, we preferred to defeat the Nazis, and the Americans to defeat the USSR.

              • Paul Weston

                No, THEY have to find a way to live with US. Just as we find a way to live with them when we are in their countries.

                And incidentally, telemachus, do you think we should have found a way to live with 1939 Germany?

              • SoCalPatriot

                You sound like you are, like, 19 years old or just delusional. I suspect you would welcome the opportunity to live as dhimmi. Fine. Bow down to your Muslim masters. Hand over the young female family members for their use. Then you can imagine yourself “peaceful.”

          • vieuxceps2

            I read that Christianity means the religion of love.

            • telemachus

              As we saw in the Crusades
              As we saw in Northern Ireland

              • Jean de Valette

                The Crusades were a response to Muslim imperialist aggression. If anything, the Crusades were too little and too late (nearly 500 years too late, in fact).

              • Cosmo

                Keep it up. Your deluded witterings are very entertaining.

            • Ron Todd

              Where did you read that?

          • Deidre Vernon

            Islam means Submission. Incorrectly referred to as the religion of peace.

            • telemachus

              My experience from multiple liason sessions in Bradford is that it is truly the religion of peace

              • Andy

                Bollocks. It is a religion of violence and hate. Indeed it is not a religion at all. All Muslims are heretics.

              • Solomon

                With all due respect, don’t confuse being nice, friendly, generous people with their overall beliefs being “peaceful”. I’ve met very “peaceful” Muslims that believe if you leave their religion you deserve to die. Many, many law abiding Muslims believe this. I think you are bit naive and don’t know the right questions to ask, nor have you read enough of the Quran or Hadith to really assess the validity of anything they say to you.

                Also clearly, you really want to believe it’s a peaceful religion which is causing you to be biased and cloud your judgement.

              • Paul Weston

                Someone once wrote something derogatory about the latent violence within the Japanese. Another commenter replied that he had visited Japan recently and had never met such lovely, peaceful and polite people…..the initial commenter then replied he had experienced exactly the same feeling about the Japanese when he too had visited their country…..in 1935.

          • Keith D

            Religion of pieces surely?. As in blown to.

            • telemachus

              By renegades

              • Keith D

                And yet the renegades are protected by the majority, the mosques, and embrace jihad through the teachings of their imams. And in the schools.
                Its not muslims that we must protect ourselves from, but Islam itself. Its no good for muslims either, especially the women.

          • Fergus Pickering

            No, old fruit, it is the religion of war. You want to change your reading matter.

            • telemachus

              Reading the history of the 20th Century you would be forgiven in believing that Christianity is the religion of war

              • Fergus Pickering

                Why? Was Hitler a Christian? Was Stalin? Was Mao? Was Chang-Kai-Shek? Were the Japanese?

                • Jackthesmilingblack

                  Adolf Hitler was a Catholic. How many more times do you need to be told?

                • Fergus Pickering

                  Lenin, Stalin and Hitler all had a Christian upbringig.But Marxist-Leninism and Nazi-ism (which Hitler invented) are both incompatible with Christianity. Or do you not agree? .

                • Jackthesmilingblack

                  Hitler referred to “doing God`s will” enough times in Mein Kempf.

                • Fergus Pickering

                  Then he was a Christian then before he invented his own religion.

          • Solomon

            “Forbidden are married women,except those(captives& slaves)your right hands possess” – Quran4:24

            quran.com/4/24

            For more context we look at the tafsir(exegesis) -:

            “those whom you acquire through war, you are allowed such women after making sure they are not pregnant.

            …”We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah was revealed…
            (Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess). Consequently, we had sexual relations with these women.”

            http://qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=684&Itemid=59

            This is what Islamic scriptures say about Muhammad, that he told his men to rape prisoners of war, even those with husbands. That is a very Orwellian definition of peace.

            Not all lay Muslims know everything about their religion, but all the Imams, “community leaders” etc. that we see claiming “religion of peace” in the media & our TV screens, they know all of this stuff and they are simply deceiving you. Islam means submission.

            If you want to know the truth, read for yourself, you don’t even have to take my word for it.

            • Jackthesmilingblack

              Seems in Iran they can`t execute virgins. But no problem, rape them in prison then you can execute them.

            • http://Thegrouse.tumblr.com The Grouse

              Yes not exactly the sermon on the mount is it?

          • Paul Weston

            Islam translated means “submission”. Why are you an advocate for it?

          • Dutchnick

            Jimmy Saville means child care? I think not.

          • ItinerantView

            No,one word developed from the root of the word means peace but in the context of Islam,it means submission.

      • vieuxceps2

        “African misfits”-By God , you’re a damned racist.How dare you draw attention to their ethnicity!

        • telemachus

          I guess you need to read the history of Nigeria and surrounding Niger, Chad and Cameroon
          And look at the economic reality
          This is not about Islam
          Sadly they use that as a handle

          • Keith D

            Its exactly about Islam. Are the murderers all over the world utterring “Allah Akbar” using it as a handle also?

            How can you attempt credibility with such deflection? Man up.

            • telemachus

              So New Crusades then?

              • Keith D

                No. we should all just convert. Better be sure its the right sect though.

              • Jean de Valette

                We need a new Crusade. These conditions are not dissimilar to the conditions which precluded the last Crusades.

              • rightrightright

                The Crusades were defensive. There might be a need for a New Crusade in the foreseeable future.

      • Jean de Valette

        Is Telemachus a parody? Because it reads like a parody.

      • Jack Diamond

        Boko Haram is a nickname, they are Sunni’s for Islamic Propagation and Jihad and are financially tied to al-Shabaab and Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb. They justify everything they do, from slaughtering Christians to taking “war booty” by reasons of Islam. Those girls are war booty. There is a chapter of the Qur’an called “Spoils of War.” They’ve read it, you haven’t. Their goal is a pure shari’a state. Is that an extremist or misfit goal for Muslims? No, it’s no different than Saudi Arabia, the UAE, the Sultan of Brunei, or the OIC besides being the goal of every al Qaeda, Hamas, Hizballah jihadist group.

        The Muslim World is obligated to implement Allah’s laws. This shari’a is not something you can separate from Islam. Shari’a is all-encompassing and indivisible, too, which is why the push push push for more shari’a (and less British law and custom), the war against free speech concerning Islam, the ever-present threat of violence behind that, the failure to even want to integrate into British society, in fact a hostile and colonizing attitude which is the experience all over Europe (aren’t the overwhelming majority of immigrants in British jails, Muslims?). And what happened to Lee Rigby has everything in common with these African misfits.

        That most of these schoolgirls are Christians is a fact the media neglects to mention or put in the context of the effort to terrorize and eliminate Christians. After all, they’ve ignored the thousands Boko Haram has already slaughtered just as they do when it happens in Syria or Iraq or when it happened in Sudan. Nor will they touch the subject of slavery in Islam, the sanctioning of the rape of captives, or the example of Muhammad in all of this, including the reason Abubakar Shekua says he will sell off to
        marriage girls as young as nine. Now if all of this is a perversion of Islam you are welcome to prove that, from the texts and tenets of Islam. Then you might be able to convince dedicated Muslims to lay down their arms (including weapons of tongue and money and law) and give up this nonsense about imposing Allah’s laws on everyone. What you are missing is that Muslims act one way when in a small minority and weak and another way when strong and feel they have the upper hand. The upper hand to do what?

      • FrenchNewsonlin

        Remind us again of the name of the continent from which Fusilier Lee Rigby’s butchers descended?

    • Liberty

      In truth, we have not brought in millions of these people, you mean millions of Muslims and only a small minority of them are Islamists. Not that we should be complacent; when thugs will kill or destroy anything that gets in their way most will get their property and people out of the way. It is the government that shoud eliminate the Islamists and they are too scared to do properly.

      • sheikyermami

        “only a small minority of them are Islamists.”

        You are deluded.

        • Liberty

          Most Muslims are decent and law abiding but say little because they are not protected by the law and our PC culture undermines their morale. To offset their feelings of powerlessness they mouth support for Islamists when asked. It would be very different if the government enforced laws against Islamist subversion, FGM, forced marriage, beating girls into submission, etc.

    • rightrightright

      They already are doing it.

    • Nate

      Well, with the pedophile grooming gangs it can be said that the Pakistani/Bangladeshi branch of Boko Haram are already operating in the UK with the consent of the pro-sellout establishment and law-enforcement.

  • Rossspeak

    Hopefully the Nigerian authorities will accept military help and expertise – the priority must be to get the safe return of hostages- then hunt down and eliminate this threat – no point in “bringing them to justice” – there is no “diplomatic pressure” to deal fairly with these people – they are vermin and should be exterminated.

    • Kennybhoy

      If they have accepted help then, quite rightly, they or we should not broadcst the fact.

  • Keith D

    Lets get them back and safe, and then hunt down every single one of that filth.

    • ArchiePonsonby

      Now you’re talking! But why is it always us?

  • Gerry Lynch

    Judging by the names, many of which are in the public domain, a fair minority of the girls are Muslims: Aishatu Musa, Mairamu Abubakar, Hasana Adam. I’m not sure you’re correct that anyone is pretending that Boko Haram are not a vicious jihadist outfit – the name of the organisation kind of gives that away. Seems to be you’re trying to score points here, though.

    • Martin Adamson

      As I said in my post above, throughout Muslim history many Muslims have always seen all black africans as fundamentally pagans, whatever their superficial beliefs, and thus fair game

    • James

      Boko Haram have been blowing up Christian funerals and attacking children from Christian enclaves for over a year now. It’s quite convenient that the media have ignored these events up until now.
      A story from the BBC describing an attack from Hindus on a Muslim community would be odd if it neglected to mention the faith of those involved, and they usually do mention it when it’s that way around.

  • Martin Adamson

    It’s not a question of daring, it’s a question of Muslim theology and law. Muslims have, literally since the days of Mohammed, held it acceptable to sell non-Muslims into slavery. Generally speaking it is forbidden to enslave Muslims, but there was pretty much always an imam around to say that such and such a people – especially sub-Saharan Africans – were not “true” Muslims.

    • cause is just

      Another ignorant in the mix. I don’t understand how people just choose deliberately to lie about Islam , perhaps you sleep better at night.

      Islam was born in a time where slavery was very common in the world, Islam banned slavery and in many cases Muslims who were able financially used their wealth to buy slaves and free them…you won’t dare to mention a noble act like that because it is too much to credit Islam of anything with your bigoted mind.
      Slavery in Christian Europe was so common to a point where you were whether a Noble who own the slaves or a slave…..When Islam entered Spain abolished this practice ..

      You are now going to give Muslims a lesson in modern societies when you learned it from them… grab a book for God sake

      • Adam Carter

        You miss the point, do you do so delierately, that mohammedanism is supposed to be the perfectly revealed will of the perfect god and valid for all time.
        It cannot change. There is an authentic Hadith to that effect. It says, more or less, whosoever introduces an innovation, it shall not be accepted.
        The West has changed, developed and progressed. The mohammedan world hasn’t. And it can’t.
        Grab a book yourself.
        The Koran and the Hadith mandate the subjugation of non-mohammedans. They also approve lying in the cause of furthering the interests and expansion of mohammedanism.

      • Sean

        Why was my comment removed when all I stated were verifiable accounts from Islamic sources?

      • ItinerantView

        Islam did not ban slavery,it codified it,slaves might have benefited from this in the 7th century but not the 21st.
        Boko Haram are just following an old,old recipe.

        “Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam.” says Sheik Saleh Al-Fawzan, according to the independent Saudi Information Agency, Al Fawzan – a member of the Senior Council of Clerics, Saudi Arabia’s highest religious body – says Muslims who contend Islam is against slavery “are ignorant, not scholars.”
        http://www.wnd.com/2003/11/21700/

      • ThisIsTheEnd

        Islam didn’t ban slavery. It regulated it.

      • Keith D

        And here is a perfect example of why we’re in trouble. Unless people educate themselves about Islam they will have won. Grab a book? Dont do irony do you? Grab a koran sweetcakes.

      • Andy

        You are a liar. Islam did not and does not ban slavery. It accepts it. And Mohammed was himself a slave owner. Under Islam someone born of slaves was a slave, not free. Someone captured in war could, if not a Muslim, be enslaved – in other words it was perfectly acceptable to enslave Christians.

        Slaves could be bought and sold quite freely in Istanbul until 1908 and slaves were freely traded in Mecca in 1925. Slavery was not abolished in Saudi Arabia until 1962; it was not abolished in Oman and Yemen until 1970.

        By contrast slavery was effectively abolished in England by the Somersett’s Case in 1772 in which Lord Mansfield ruled that slavery was unsupported by law in England. The trade was abolished in 1807 and slavery itself abolished in the British Empire in 1833. This vile trade was stamped out by the power of the Royal Navy.

        • Jean de Valette

          “This vile trade was stamped out by the power of the Royal Navy.”
          Absolutely right – but don’t forget the U.S. Marines. They didn’t go “to the shores of Tripoli” for their health.
          They went specifically to fight Muslim pirate slavers.

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            Thank Thomas Jefferson for sticking it to the Barbary Pirates.

            • Jean de Valette

              Exactly. After the USS Constitution was taken by muslim slavers, Jefferson quietly trained up the newly re-formed Marines and sent them to free the American crew and passengers from slavery – all in total secrecy.
              He only informed Congress 10 days after the ships were out to ensure that Adams couldn’t recall them. Adams was in favour of paying the %22 GDP annual ‘tribute’ being demanded by the Pasha. Jefferson, having read the Koran, was fervently against sending even “one penny in tribute”. The two had fought bitterly over the issue in the preceding years. When the USS Constitution was taken, that was it for Jefferson. He basically single-handedly started the Barbary Wars- specifically in order to, as you rightly put it, “Stick it to the Barbary Pirates.”

              • ArchiePonsonby

                Where was Thomas Jefferson when the crew of HMS Cornwall was captured by the Iranians without a shot being fired………..to our eternal shame?

                • Jackthesmilingblack

                  Sure, there were a few initial setbacks,…

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