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Andrew Mitchell demands the police publish transcripts of ‘plebgate’ hearings

20 May 2014

7:24 PM

20 May 2014

7:24 PM

The plebgate scandal has flared back to life tonight with a letter from Andrew Mitchell to the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bernard Hogan-Howe. Mitchell alleges that one of the police officers on duty on the night of the incident boasted to a friend ‘I can topple the Tory government’.

According to Michael Crick, Mitchell gathered this evidence at the recent Met disciplinary hearings that he was allowed to attend. Mitchell now wants the transcripts of these hearings published along with the evidence presented to them. The Met’s response tonight suggests that they won’t agree to this.

Those close to Mitchell are getting increasingly frustrated at how long this whole business is taking. They know that Cameron won’t consider a return to frontline politics for Mitchell until the legal processes is over. But, at the moment, it looks like that might not be until after the next election.

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  • In2minds

    Hogan-Howe claims the information heard at the disciplinary hearings is confidential. So how come Mitchell is there? The Met on the back foot again, they are not inept, they are in fact corrupt.

  • Colin56

    Surely, after many months of headlines, tens of thousands of £££, numerous ‘inquiries’ and all the rest of the razzamatazz, Mitchell must be wondering why in the name of all that’s holy he didn’t just do as the nice policeman said and wheel his now infamous bicycle through the pedestrian gate, like any normal, polite, obedient person might do when directed by the police. Why, for the sake of a momentary act of conformity, didn’t he just do as he was asked? It’s redolent of the arrogance of politicians, who naturally think they are born to rule the rest of us, to want to ‘make a point’ and thus cause all this fuss. Maybe he would like to reimburse the poor benighted taxpayer for all the fees, costs, ‘inquiries’, time wasting etc that this little spat over nothing has cost an ungrateful nation.

    • Mr Grumpy

      Thamk you, officer, always nice to get a grassroots reaction from the Met.

      • Colin56

        Unlucky guess, Grumpy, I’m not a copper! Just a taxpayer fed up to the back teeth of financing this spat. Everyone involved is bankrolled by the public sector – Mitchell, the Police Federation, the Met, the officers themselves. Every penny spent on costs, ‘inquiries’ and the rest of it legally confiscated (‘taxed’ in other words) from people who have much better things to with their cash than pay for this affair. And all of it over one man’s petulant refusal to use the pedestrian gate that the rest of us ‘plebs’ have to do when asked to by someone in ‘authority’.

        • Mr Grumpy

          I don’t begrudge the cost if it establishes the principle that Cabinet ministers get kicked out by the electorate and not by a bunch of disgruntled coppers.

          PS Amen to your update, never was a cut more richly deserved!

          • Colin56

            How’s about Cabinet Ministers learn some manners and drop the arrogant attitude? All of this – including the costs you seem willing to underwrite – could have been avoided if Mitchell had managed to swallow his pride for a couple of minutes and gone on his merry way. I agree that Ministers should not be defenestrated by the police – but my theme is that all of this was totally avoidable if Mitchell could have managed to bite his tongue. It’s just a matter of getting on in everyday life and having some sense of proportionality. He didn’t – and we are all paying for it. Grrrr!

  • Tony_E

    The Met are hoping to drag this out until after the next election, in the hope that an incoming Labour government will help them sweep it under the carpet.

  • toco10

    Has Red Ed and the Labour front bench apologised to Andrew Mitchell given the disgraceful behaviour of the dodgy Met?They should but as they are all self serving jobsworths apologies are never featured in the Labour ranks.

    • realfish

      No. Nor have the BBC who led the charge against Mitchell, night after night on their Newsnight programme. Just as they seem to be with the Premier League’s Scudamore, the BBC appeared to be going for Mitchell.

      It would be interesting to know what was going on behind the scenes at Broadcasting House and who were the BBC conspiring with.

      • Kennybhoy

        Ceterum censeo BBC esse delendam!

      • Tony Quintus

        The BBC? I think you will find it was the Sun Newspaper leading the charge, payback for the News of the World shutdown.

        • First L

          The BBC was terrible though. The Guardian also had some disgraceful headlines and stories for which they have yet to apologise. None of them could believe their luck – a Tory Minister being so evil? None of them stopped to consider the possibility that they were assisting a miscarriage of justice and corrupt police. Mitchell is facing losing his house to clear his name and not one paper has so much as apologised. He should sue the bloody lot of them.

          • Tony_E

            They didn’t care – it’s about perception, the lie does the damage but the truth never quite undoes it.

        • realfish

          True, the Sun picked it up, but long after others had lost interest BBC Newsnight kept it alive, much to the surprise of others in the MSM

    • realfish

      No. Nor have the BBC who led the charge against Mitchell, night after night on their Newsnight programme. Just as they seem to be with the Premier League’s Scudamore, the BBC appeared to be going for Mitchell.

      It would be interesting to know what was going on behind the scenes at Broadcasting House and who were the BBC conspiring with.

    • Greenslime

      This lot like an easy body, particularly if it is Tory or UKIP.

      Gary Barlow was the same. No cognisance from the pack that the scheme would have been put in front of him by his financial adviser nor of how much tax (direct and indirect) he has paid nor of the employment and financial activity the group has created in their shows.

      The politics of envy breeds nasty, mean spirited souls.

    • Mynydd

      Get real this as nothing to do with Labour. Mr Mitchell is a member of the Conservative party, and his position in the party and government is down to the Conservative party leader, and Prime Minister Mr Cameron. The Met is under the control of Mr Johnson, the Conservative mayor of London, and has been for the last, what is it 6/7 years. It is these two Conservative leaders that should apologise to Mr Mitchell as they were and are still in power.

      • Inverted Meniscus

        Labour Troll. Ignore this idiot.

      • toco10

        You have just made my point perfectly!Labour and its trades union paymasters are incapable of apology for anything because of its bitterness and hatred towards anyone outside its incestuous grouping.

  • LucieCabrol

    There should be a lot more jail time here….this was the equivalent of treason; what right had a policeman employed by the government to protect No 10 to collude with other policemen to bring down a democratically elected party. Seriously, its treason.

    • Kennybhoy

      Wholeheartedly agree and have said so hereabouts on previous occasions. In a more civilized era those involved would deservedly be facing the prospect of the rope or worse.

      Ceterum censeo BBC esse delendam!

  • MalcolmRedfellow

    Let me not be too dismissive.

    It’s just that Mitchell ‘alleges’ and ‘boasted to a friend’ don’t quite come across as fundamental to a killer argument.

    • McRobbie

      Dismiss if you will..it seems compatible with the admission that the police federation reps offered a totally different version of what we now know was said at the meeting between them and mitchell to satisfy most non police federation supporters that someone in the police was after as much government blood as they could get. Its a short step to believe they would be bragging about bringing down the government..is that not treason?

    • HookesLaw

      Why should he bother with a spurious allegation when it is on the record? Why cannot the record be published? Then we can all see.

  • telemachus

    He should change party
    Thrasher and Farage were made for each other

    • sfin

      On the contrary young lady!

      Andrew Mitchell is the sort of politician Nigel Farage despises – patrician, careerist and social democrat…however, I am certain that he could see that this was some sort of stitch up, and that Mr Mitchell has been unfairly treated – in this particular case.

      Whatever the outcome – we have come to a sorry pass when the words of our constabulary come into question…

      …thanks! New Labour!

      • telemachus

        What on earth is this to do with New Labour

        • First L

          Plenty.

      • Kitty MLB

        Very well said. Thanks to New Labour wrecking every part of our society. The police are now just far too political. And it was a stitch up.
        Very strange that the day after the incident the police already had
        tee shirts with the words ‘ I am a pleb’ instantly available.

        • telemachus

          Very strange that the day after the incident the police already had tee shirts with the words ‘ I am a pleb’ instantly available.

          *

          Again–What on earth is this to do with New Labour
          Far fetched even for you MLB

          • Kitty MLB

            Ouch, why is dear Telemachus popping his sword into me.
            I am quite small you know. It has more to do with leftie indoctrination and the caterwauling calls of those who wish to
            get a Tory regardless of a words like honour and integrity.
            Those old Labour chaps from bygone years would have understood those words.
            By the way, to you my little wasp, I am just Kitty.

      • Frank

        Patrician?? Mitchell is many things, but not patrician.
        As for trusting the words of the police, we are way beyond that innocent approach, and Bernard Hogan-Howe (particularly bogus sounding double-barrelled name) has clearly been promoted way beyond his level of competence (mind you, virtually all senior coppers come across as madly over-promoted).

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