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Revenge porn’s Ukip poster girl highlights the dangers of digital media

28 April 2014

3:00 PM

28 April 2014

3:00 PM

Poor Lizzy Vaid. You’ll recognise her as the poster girl from Ukip’s recent party manifesto, who turned out to be Nigel Farage’s assistant. She’s also just found herself the victim of a vicious sting, after a malevolent ex-boyfriend sent sexually graphic photos of her to The Sun newspaper.

The photos, according to The Sun, were ‘too graphic to reproduce — or even describe’ in print or online. Ambrosia, then, for a sex-obsessed digital audience. The photos have already ended up somewhere else. You may by now recognise Vaid in the nude too.

Has anyone come to her defence? Well, yes — Breitbart, the conservative news website. Milo Yiannopoulos points out on his blog that Vaid has been abandoned by the feminists who’d normally devour this sort of story. In his piece, entitled ‘It’s not “slut shaming revenge porn” if the b*tch votes Ukip’, he criticizes the ‘deafening silence from feminist campaigners and Left-wing columnists of all stripes to this young woman’s cruel ritual humiliation, and the total lack of interest from the liberal media in this country.’ He has a point. So far, there has been relatively little written in defence of Vaid’s situation. As Yiannopoulos writes:

‘When a woman on the Right gets herself into trouble, there’s a sense that—how do I put this delicately?—the bitch had it coming. If you’re a woman, having the temerity to vote Tory—or, shock horror, the unconscionable UKIP—strikes the commentariat as so all-consumingly mystifying that you lose all moral agency and right to protection from the sisterhood.’

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This may well be true. But I imagine it won’t be long before the ‘sisterhood’ turn this thing round and start to protest on her behalf. It would certainly be a good chance for ardent feminists to point out how the movement can rise above the political spectrum. A young, pretty Ukipper in a tight spot seems too good an opportunity to miss.

But it’s the tight spot that worries me. Lizzy Vaid is clearly an ambitious girl – and a bright one too. She’s a mover and shaker. If you disagree with her politics, so be it. But she has done well, and that should be applauded. What shouldn’t be applauded is her dumb decision to allow someone to film her doing something she’d rather not have published on the internet. Was she aware of the cult of revenge porn? Maybe not. She is now. She’s become the poster girl for the dangers of it.

As Freddy Gray has pointed out, there’s a way to avoid this revenge porn: simply don’t do it. Or, if you do, do it in the knowledge that it may one day end up online. ‘If you let somebody film you in flagrante then you may be setting yourself up for a future disgrace. In the digital age, especially, you are dicing with danger,’ said Freddy.

Women have made great progress when it comes to equality. But it can all be toppled so quickly, so sadly, by a couple of steamy photos snapped on an iPhone. As Lizzy Vaid has found, porn and politics rarely mix well. In this digital age, and with battles still to be fought, women must be careful. Best turn the phone off when things get steamy.


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  • Steve B

    I hope she learns to get over it and not worry too much each time some low life tries to use it against her. If there’s any justice in the world her psycho ex-boyfriend will suffer longer and harder.

    Feminism won’t run to her aid because it’s a remnant of a Communist destabilisation programme and nothing to do with women’s rights.

  • Jikli

    Word on the street (Twitter) is Lizzy Vaid is going to be UKIPs PPC for Newark.
    Now that will be poetic justice when she wins

  • Beth Dawson

    Who wants protection from the rotten ‘sisterhood’? The ‘liberal’, feminist sheep or ‘sisterhood’ got us into this wonderful mess! Thanks to their liberal, strident, misguided messages the majority of women have for decades felt unable to say ‘no’ to men’s sexual requests (even 11 and 12 year olds), just to be accepted, while the so-called ‘sisterhood’ say the ‘Miss World’ competition and the Sun’s page 3 is degrading to women! Oh my goodness, if you didn’t laugh you’d cry!

  • SmellyFingers

    Need to find those pics, she’s hotter than a vindaloo(no racist)!

    :p

    • George Smiley

      So hot in fact that you can probably get her up the duff just by looking at her! She can burn my bits off, any time!

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Dream on, Jock.

        • George Smiley

          Still more chance than a schizophrenic in a Japanese nut house!

  • Your Correspondent

    What patronising nonsense. Lizzy Vaid is modern woman: in control of her life, her career, her body and her sexuality. Must all be a complete puzzle to those blazer-wearing golf club bores in the Tory party. Interesting to see how many of UKIP’s candidates for the European elections are women. Unlike the the Lib-Dems of course, where women are just there for groping and chasing along the hotel corridor at conference.

  • http://batman-news.com Bloggs

    Why do you have to sign-in to vote a comment ‘down’, but not to vote a comment ‘up’ ?

    • George Smiley

      You can’t really vote down these days, anyway.

  • cartimandua

    It isn’t just females who are at risk from new technologies and new media. There have been tragic cases of suicides in young people of both sexes when they have been blackmailed.
    Then there is the risk of over use of certain “materials”. It diminishes the capacity to relate to a partner in real life.

    • George Smiley

      Personally, I am not entirely sure that suicides out of love are entirely tragic, but of course, that is purely my personally view.

      • cartimandua

        A very eccentric view when we are talking about blackmailed young teenagers.

        • George Smiley

          I suppose, if you were gullible enough to commit suicide on such small things, then perhaps you were too stupid to ever deserve or be allowed to live anyway!

          • cartimandua

            You are a monster . Perhaps “psychopaths” should be removed from society.

            • George Smiley

              Survival of the fittest and all that. Psychopathy should be compulsory.

  • oopsilaffatatory

    Hang on. Is this the same Ukip who’s members think women shouldn’t wear trousers, stay at home and have hubby’s dinner ready on the table, slippers warmed and glass of scotch ready and waiting
    A goddess in the kitchen and a whore in the bed and all that?

    No wonder she hasn’t received much sympathy from the feminists

    And criticised by a publication on the right where feminists and the left are reviled for their “political correctness gorn mad”

    Well as the Kinks sang, “It’s a mixed up, messed up shook up world”

    • Rallan

      She is a young woman who belongs to a popular politics party, along with tens of thousands of other people. She’s had her personal life violated in the national press just so that people like you can sneer and laugh. It’s been an in-excusable personal smear job with no justification. My heart goes out to her.

      You say she deserves no sympathy nor justice because a few other (much older) people who also belong to that party have an old fashioned attitude towards feminism.

      I think you are a disgrace as a human being.

      • oopsilaffatatory

        Show me where I said that it is okay to have had intimate and most personal moments put on the internet for all to see in a malicious betrayal by an ex lover?

        I was discussing the reaction from the author and as I see it paradoxes

        Nor did I say she doesn’t deserve sympathy, and she certainly has mine. I will repeat what I actually said,.

        “No wonder she hasn’t received much sympathy from the feminists”

        If you interpret that as meaning I have no ability to empathise and am a disgrace then, I also feel a deal of sympathy for you.

    • Gwangi

      I think you’ll find most Muslim and African members and supporters of the Labour party hold such views and also many more extreme ones on how women should be treated. No-one seems to mind that though eh? And what about the feminists who say all men should be mutilated and all men are raypists? Agree, do we?

      • oopsilaffatatory

        “I think you’ll find most Muslim and African members and supporters of the Labour party hold such views and also many more extreme ones on how women should be treated. ”

        Done a survey have you to back up that claim.
        Have a bit of a think before making generalised statements about what you obviously know very little about.

        • James

          “Have a bit of a think before making generalised statements about what you obviously know very little about.”

          Bit of a stretch considering your opening was the same generalisation.

          • oopsilaffatatory

            “Is this the same Ukip who’s members think women shouldn’t wear trousers, stay at home and have hubby’s dinner ready on the table, slippers warmed and glass of scotch ready and waiting ”

            That has been said by Ukip members.
            So there is no generalisation or stretching at all.

            • Gwangi

              It has also been said or thought by 99% of the British Muslim population (just replace the phrase ‘glass of scotch’ with plate of curry and nan bread).
              Plenty of funders and supporters of ALL political parties say and thick wacko things – and yet the media only focus on UKIP. There’s a word for that: BULLYING.
              As a true Brit, I despise bullying and thus will always rush to the defence of any victim of it.
              Do you seriously think the media has the moral high ground from where to judge anyone? PAH!

              • oopsilaffatatory

                Ukip is not a racist party
                Bwhahahahahahahaha

                • Gwangi

                  I have nothing to do with UKIP, you self-righteous pompous dribble of titty ha ha juice. I am a member of no party and do not even know how I shall vote if I do.

                  I just don’t like bullies, and know the media enough to know exactly what it and its twins in the political class are doing. But you see, every time UKIP get unfairly bullied as they are being, its supporters become more loyal and it gets more too.

                • oopsilaffatatory

                  Really? You should join.
                  You would feel very much at home with them.

                  Do you also complain about the media when they demonise the unemployed and disabled with hokum stories using actors??

                  Ukip unfairly bullied? pffft. They should stop their own propaganda and bullying of immigrants and spouting fascist nonsense.

                  or would you prefer censorship so we don’t get to see what is at the core of kipper philosophy?

        • Gwangi

          Just because you are too ignorant to know such things exist, does not mean they do not exist.

          Many if not most Asians and blacks in the UK are very backwards and deeply conservative in their views; often that if pure bigotry and racism. Most blacks and Asians hate gays and want homo-ness made illegal; some want gays hanged.

          Most blacks and Asians do not approve of their daughters living lives of multiple partners and single parenthood. Most Asians see blacks as inferior. Most are utter religious bigots and want to silence anyone who dares challenge their Islamic or other values in any way. The biggest bigots, gay-haters and racists I have ever met have all been black or Asian.

          Islamism is the fascism of now and you are an appeaser – wilful blindness is a terrible thing, Neville.

          • oopsilaffatatory

            oh dear

            You aren’t a Kipper by any chance are you.

            Good grief. Try making the world a better and safer place by keeping your obnoxious opinions to yourself and going back to sleep to dream of England

            • Gwangi

              Well, surveys have regularly shown how bigoted black Africans are towards gay people, and Muslims surveys show a similar result. Moreover, most Muslims are racist towards Jews. 15% of British Muslims thought 9/11 ‘a good thing’. Try contacting the Muslim council or a black evangelical pastor and ask their views on gay people, girls having many intimate partners, or atheists.
              You – and many entranced by misplaced multiculturalism and the dogma of diversity worship – are a po-faced hypocrite who supports racism, homophobia and bigotry if it comes from anyone with a dark skin and a religion – in a way you wouldn’t tolerate from a white person. That makes you a racist, son, as you treat people differently according to their skin colour.

              Try listing to the jokes of Sharzia Mirzi. Ones like this:

              “My parents really want me to get married. But Muslim men don’t want to marry me because” – and then a pause – “I speak.”
              “My dad said if I went out with a black man, he’d burn me. Which would be good, because then I’d be black too.”

              • oopsilaffatatory

                Yeah, Muslims are the only people who are bigots aren’t they.

                I am racist because I don’t like racism, dad?
                Such compulsive logic earns you my deepest respect.

                I treat people with the respect they show to others,
                There have been plenty of instances when a Muslim has stood up and spoken against bigotry.

                Yet to hear a kipper do likewise.

                • Gwangi

                  Kipper? What’s this fixation with fish? Maybe you see animals of equivalent brain power to you in those glassy thick eyes eh?

                  Here is what kipper means in slang:

                  Kipper is British slang for the va-gina.
                  Kipper is British slang for a wide tie.
                  Kipper is British slang for an unreliable person.
                  Kipper is British slang for a coward.
                  Kipper is British military slang for a sailor.
                  Kipper is British military slang for a serviceman.
                  Kipper is derogatory Australian slang for Englishman.

                  ‘There have been plenty of instances when a Muslim has stood up and spoken against bigotry’

                  Yeah right! You can hardly move in the UK for Muslims protesting – yet there has never been ONE protest by Muslims about the behaviour of Muslim terrorists, has there? Instead, they protest about cartoons and try to stop people from civilised countries exercising our long-fought-for right to freedom of speech, expression and religious belief. Tsss.

                • oopsilaffatatory

                  Gwangi is obviously a synonym for Kipper

                • oopsilaffatatory
                • oopsilaffatatory
                • oopsilaffatatory

                  “Yeah right! You can hardly move in the UK for Muslims protesting ”

                  Never been impeded by a Muslim, even when I lived in an area with a high population of Muslims.

                • oopsilaffatatory

                  “Instead, they protest about cartoons and try to stop people from civilised countries exercising our long-fought-for right to freedom of speech, expression and religious belief.”

                  Does that expression of freedom extend to posting images of your ex-girlfriend in flagrante on the internet?

                  Haven’t read Satanic Verses. In fact never read any of Salman Rushdie’s books tbh, though iirc I have a copy of Midnight’s Children lying around somewhere.

                  I did read the Conference of Birds a long time ago.
                  Some of the references to Christians are a tad embarrassing it has to be said, though comparable to, say, Feirefiz in Wolfram Von Eschanbach’s Parzival, wouldn’t you say?

                • Gwangi

                  I’d say that the pandering of those who worship at the altar of misplaced multiculturalism back in 1989 when the incitement to hatred and death threats by Muslims against Rushdie were ignored were where the rot really started to set in.
                  I’d say those who incited violence and murder back then should be arrested now – that includes SIR Iqbal Sacranie, former head of the undemocratic Wahabi club The Muslim Council and many others.
                  I do not believe in bannig books at all. Muslims believe is banning free speech from anyone who dares criticise Islam, lampoon it or its so-called prophet, or who describe the details of his perverted life.
                  No protests by Muslims in the UK against the vile things Muslims do around the world, or the oppression of women/gays etc in Islamic countries, or any march for Muslims to show how loyal they are to the UK, the country that has given them far more liberty, tolerance and wealth than any Muslim country. That makes many suspect these Muslims are the enemy within – and I suspect that at least 15% are.

      • Scott Moore

        I think you’ll find your views are based on a complete ignorance of reality.

        • Gwangi

          Oh my, hit a nerve, did I?
          Try associating with Muslims and black Africans in the UK; learn how much they despise gay people and want to kill them; learn how much they see the ‘Western’ (ie modern) society as inferior tontheir Sharia values; learn how most south Asians see blacks as inferior; learn how professional black Africans see Jamaicans as inferior.
          of course, no-one wants to talk about this because according to the left, all their black and Asian supporters are tolerant and open-minded fluffy little bunnies. Now THAT is complete ignorance of reality. The biggest bigots I have ever met have all been black or Asian (though most try hard to hide their views in wider white society).

          • Scott Moore

            Yes, indeed, ignorance and racial stereotyping always hit a nerve. Had a bad day did you? Do you feel better after your Alf Garnett-style rant?

            • Gwangi

              You are the ignorant one; and you are so un-self-aware you cannot even see it. And you fail to see the irony in your stereotyping all who refuse to pander to and appease Islamofascists as somehow being racist. My views are the same as the French socialist party’s – are they fascist too?

              How many dark-skinned people have you even met? How many Africans have you talked to about their views on gay people? How many Muslims have you asked? I have years of experience of listening to the true opinions of these people and learning about their backwards and bigoted cultures.

              If these bigoted black and Asian people had white skins and no religion, you’d call them backwards, bigoted racists and political dinosaurs – maybe even Alf Al-Garnett. But hey, as they’ve got a dark skin colour you treat them according to a different moral code. RACIST!

              • Scott Moore

                You’re just making things up about me to divert attention away from your own stereotyping. You’ve built such a humungous strawman that you must have really severe hayfever – bless you!

                • Gwangi

                  You have summed yourself up perfectly there!

                  You create your imagined enemies (which is anyone you label ‘right wing’ ie BAD, and anyone who is not a pc leftie hypocrite like you), and proceed to fling abuse and lies and slander at them – because in your befuddled brain anyone who does not think like you must therefore be a racist and a bigot.
                  In such a way do your stereotype and dehumanise your enemies, and create a huge straw man to attack.

                  Yet you never ever criticise the bigots and racists who have a dark skin and a minority religion. Why? Oh I know – you’re racist, and can only ever attack white people, never those black and Asian people whose views are essentially fascistic, with a deep religious streak (a bit like Europe hundreds of years ago). HYPOCRITE!

    • Clarke Pitts

      You are building a straw man, if a few eccentric people who happen to be members of UKIP say something outlandish, it’s not reasonable to ascribe their opinions to the 30,000+ other members. No doubt you are a member of a political party, or some other organization, club or group, amongst whose members there are people who have views that you do not share – even revile.

  • StephanieJCW

    So, the argument is that no woman should ever, ever fully trust a man.

    If I understand that correctly?

    • Liz

      Boys will be sociopaths.

      • cartimandua

        That made me laugh. We do have a real problem in modern times.
        New technology is not just “good”. It normalizes really perverse behaviour.

        • Gwangi

          Oh my, you feminists really are a bunch of po-faced blue-stockings, ain’t ya?!

          You seem to be having a permanent attack of the vapours at the outrageous natural behaviour of human beings. How dare they copulate or touch themselves or look at naughty nude photos!

          Feminism has always had a puritanical fascistic streak. Maybe because feminists are such miserable rejects eh? They can’t stand the sight or even the thought of anyone else having fun! Misery-guts Marys, the lotta yers!

          • cartimandua

            It is you who complained about “female behaviour”. So according to you what women do is “not natural” but what men do is.

            • Gwangi

              You seem confused. Maybe take a pill or five to get your head straight.

      • Gwangi

        I think you’ll find that twice as many women than men are being treated for mental illness, and of course women are far more likely to violently abuse and kill babies and children than men.

        But hey, don’t let the facts get in the way of a good old feminist victimhood-craving man-hating pity party…

        Whatever makes you happy, Dworkie.

        • cartimandua

          That’s a good one (not). People become ill when their lives are rubbish. Women do most of the caring so of course they are going to be the ones who crack under the pressure.
          Your argument is as silly as saying car drivers who crash
          are at fault for being harmed in the crash.

          • Gwangi

            Excuses excuses. Men work far harder and for longer than women; they don’t bottle it but soldier on.
            In fact they do that too much and work themselves to death. Men working in their 50s are more ill than women and yet men carry on whereas women drop out. Men get more ill and die younger, and yet most early retirement through illness is by women and most days off from work due to illness and taken by women. Wimps eh?
            Your analogy is as irrelevant as you are.

            • cartimandua

              Life expectancy now is virtually the same but women suffer much more chronic illness.

              • Gwangi

                No – men suffer more illnesses yet they soldier on. Mrs Teacher-whinge meanwhile takes early retirement through illness at tax payers’ expense. Women take more sick leave and are less reliable employees – and cost the state a fortune.

        • Liz

          The difference is nobody says “girls will be girls, boys just have to take precautions”.

          • Gwangi

            It is the female whose body gets penetrated and who can get pregnant. That is why. Doh!

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            “I thought you said I was taking precautions.”
            Attributed to Bonkers Blunkett.

    • Rallan

      There’s a video camera in every mobile phone, and everyone has a mobile phone. There’s an uncensored world wide media distribution network at the fingertips of anyone with access to the internet, and everyone has access to the internet.

      One bad breakup, or one immature partner, is all it takes.

    • Gwangi

      Actually, I would advise all boys never ever to trust a woman either. Men who are not dim enough to get married don’t lose their house and savings when their fat old wife decides to file for divorce and win the lottery…

    • George Smiley

      Surely—save for the modern feminist poison—getting videotaped in bed is surely a perverse sense of the ultimate compliment from a boy! I know that I am actually schizophrenic enough that not that many women—all but the youngest or the older ones—would want to be seen to be anywhere remotely near a bed with me!

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Women have this amazing ability to spot the nutter at 30 paces. Which goes some way to explain your experience.

  • Ben

    ALL party political broadcasts use activists or actors……….There is nothing to report in this.

    As for the shameful attack on Miss Vaid by th MSM , Westminster, and her past lover…..Just shows what sort of people they are. Devoid of moral and principle and will stop at nothing to protect their own interests.

    DON’T LISTEN TO THEM

    Vote Ukip

  • StephanieJCW

    Whataboutery

  • cartimandua

    What revenge attacks of this nature suggest is that some men no longer find real life enough.. they have to film it.

  • martin_lowe

    Has anyone come to her defence? Well, yes — Breitbart, the conservative news website. Milo Yiannopoulos points out on his blog that Vaid has been abandoned by the feminists who’d normally devour this sort of story.

    Did Breitbart consider commissioning such a piece, or did they just want to use it as a stick to beat feminists?

    Has The Spectator commissioned a piece about it? Or is this the piece? Because I don’t see any comment from the author criticising what happened or defending Ms. Vaid against her scumbag ex-boyfriend – in fact, it seems to say “tough luck, girlie – it’s your fault for being naked” (when we don’t even know that the pictures were taken with her consent or knowledge).

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    How about reinstating my debate-widening comment, Mods?

    • George Smiley

      And how about stop being such a troll yourself and stop signing off—as of a nobody, who is also too delusional and paranoid to use your own name—your comments by telling us about “Japan Alps” or the name of some other self-imaginary place that you THINK that you were in, like a schizophrenic?! I know you are a schizophrenic, but do you also have to act like a schizophrenic as well?!

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        “too delusional and paranoid to use your own name”
        Sure George, or can I call you Jonathan?

  • Ostercy

    “Breitbart, the conservative news website.”
    Like Hitler, the former conservative leader of Germany.

    • La Fold

      Absolute shoemakers! Hitler who wanted to overthrow bourgeois society and destroy capitalism through violent revolution. Have you even read Mein Kampf?

      • Ostercy

        I haven’t, but I’m not interested in extreme right wingers trying to prove Hitler wasn’t an extreme right winger to spare their own blushes.

        • La Fold

          So youve just admitted you have no idea what youre talking about then? And faced with your own ignorance you resort to calling me an extreme right winger? Please tell me how I am an extreme right winger?
          Thanks for showing everyone just how much of a plank you are. Are you about 16 by any chance?

          • Ostercy

            Whatever :)

        • George Smiley

          Hitler was a National Socialist = a Socialist.

  • roastbeef

    Gotcha, never get pictures doing something indiscrete, although perhaps the blame lies with the man who decided to sell the pictures? You know, the scumbag ex.

    A bit close to victim blaming here.

    • roastbeef

      Oh and don’t forget that with Photoshop these days almost any woman can be targeted even if she’s never had any nude pics taken. For evidence, well, look at 4chan or ask Anita sarkeesian.

  • zanzamander

    A stupid girl does even a stupider thing, why should anyone come to her defense?

    I doubt she feels embarrassed about it, in fact she may even be having a laugh about it with her like minded friends.

    • Liz

      No, she didn’t do a stupid thing, her ex-boyfriend did a stupid thing. Why does everyone excuse the sociopathy of men and rush to blame their victims?

      Why on earth do you think a woman would laugh about having intimate photographs shared with men around the world without her consent?

  • Jim Eblett

    Maybe the ‘Liberals’ and ‘feminists’ aren’t jumping in to her defence as they know that the fundamental ethos of the far right is “every man jack for him/her self”. They are therefore leaving her to it. Sounds kind of respectful to her underlying principles to me. :-)

    • The Blue Baron

      As a Conservative, I try to treat my political opponents with a modicum of respect even though I don’t share their political views. It says a lot about so much of the modern left that it can’t help but demonise those who don’t share their politics.

    • La Fold

      Stay classy Jim.

  • Catherine Bridgman

    A ridiculous article which says, where are the feminists to stand up for her? And then says it’s all her fault for doing it in the first place… at least the feminists actually stand up for her!

  • Jackson

    One can’t help but wonder if these had been lewd photographs of Nigel Farage would they be getting the same level of press coverage? The article is asking ‘Where’s the sisterly support?’ – should it not be asking ‘Why, in this day & age, is this sort of thing still considered news and is it only so because it is a woman?’

  • cartimandua

    Whenever someone wants to excuse vile behaviour they claim “feminists didn’t complain about it”. They fail to notice that only misogyny gets into print. Germaine Greer has noticed and commented on this. This article is just another example.
    The Internet is very male and very misogynistic and so now is online media.
    Lara be ashamed of this article it is nasty.

    • Liz

      Having a dig at feminists and women is her shtick. Or rather her Editor’s schtick for which she has been hired. He saw her youth, lack of insight and eagerness to please a mile off.

      • La Fold

        Christ you really are wired to the moon aint you?

  • louisemoss78722

    This article is confused and deeply problematic.

    Are you chastising the left for not rushing to Lizzy Vaid’s aid or are you criticising the left’s integrity by suggesting they will use her experience to further, in your own words, their agenda, which is, *so appallingly*, gender equality. Oh wait, hold on, now Lizzy Vaid, whilst being a ‘mover and shaker’, is actually to blame for her own fate?

    I am appalled at how patronising and ill-informed this article is. ‘Come on girls, turn the phone off when things get steamy to avoid toppling this great progress’. That so many battles are still left to be fought is partly due to such disgraceful journalism as this.

    • Liz

      That’s right girls, keep your legs together.

      • cartimandua

        Until what 35?

        • Liz

          For ever. And don’t let your guard down in the morgue either.

          • Gwangi

            How about taking a bath in acid then, to be sure you stay pure?
            Jeez… Paranoid or what!

          • alabenn

            Very droll, probably wasted here.

  • Liz

    “As Freddy Gray has pointed out, there’s a way to avoid this revenge p*rn: simply don’t do it. Or, if you do, do it in the knowledge that it may one day end up online. ‘If you let somebody film you in flagrante then you may be setting yourself up for a future disgrace. In the digital age, especially, you are dicing with danger,’ said Freddy.”

    And in, “Adventures in Victim Blaming: Revenge P*rn Edition” Professor Mary Anne Franks explains why he’s indulging in a self-entitled, smugfest.

  • Liz

    Here’s a feminist speaking: revenge p*rn is despicable whoever the target is.

    Lara Prendergast: not a feminist, but a man-pleasing, career-chasing, now victim-blaming creep who ought to spend less time attacking other women for not doing more than she does.

    • Gwangi

      Is it? Well, women take revenge against men all the time – so why shouldn’t men be just as vindictive and spiteful for a change? All’s fair in love and war.

      I suspect if the genders were reversed here your view and that of other feminists (what a quaint dusty term that is these days!) would whole-heartedly support the woman taking revenge. They tend to, y’know.

      • cartimandua

        Only for rape. Humiliating an ex out of pure spite is incredibly low.

      • Liz

        For a change?!? Men have always been vindictive and spiteful.

        In olden times they branded women. In foreign countries they carry out violent and vile sentences against them. In this country, the most dangerous time for a woman is when she leaves her boyfriend or husband.

        The thing is that the genders aren’t reverse, this is very much a male on female phenomenon. And unsurprisingly, half-baked journalists are queuing up to blame the victim and advise her what not to do. Where have we seen that before?

        • La Fold

          MEN BASTARDS!!

          “Men have always been vindictive and spiteful”
          So every man, ever, in the whole history of civilisation across the globe has been vindictive and spiteful? So there has never been a man who isnt vindictive and spiteful?
          Your very statement is vindictive and spiteful.

          • Liz

            I didn’t say all men.

            Just most of them.

            • Gwangi

              Sorry to hear you have had a bad experience with men which has made you hate them. You are not alone in that – most feminists are the same. Sad really.
              Though considering how loopy and deranged you are, one has to feel sorry for the man who went for you in the first place. Was he blind or desperate I wonder? We shall never know (or care…)

              • Liz

                I’ll just pop you down on my vindictive and spiteful men list.

        • Gwangi

          Oh dear. You just don’t get it, do you?
          For innate biological reasons – the fact is that women would have been pregnant or caring for children all the time until very recently in history – women are less bold. confident and directly confrontational than men (talking generally, but that is the tendency – the bold women would have died off mostly and/or lost their babies). Men are bloder and take more risks – one reason they tend to excel at business, poilitics, in the antiques trade, on Mastermind and in careers. One reason also why they are not as devious, underhand, vindictive and spiteful as women.
          If a woman wants to get back at a man or a woman, she does not confront. Oh no, she will be nasty and spread false rumours maybe – for that is how girls bully other girls at school. Or they’ll exclude another woman from their little group and give her the silent treatment. Really REALLY spiteful and nasty.
          Now, men tend to confront. Though actually, as we live in a hysterical femi-society where a man can get himself arrested for being confrontational or even emailing his ex twice, or posting on Twitter/Facebook, I think men should try and learn how to be as spiteful, vindictive and nasty as women to get back at those who hurt them. I would suggest putting chill powder on your girlfriends sanitary towels if she is about to leave you. Or perhaps just spreading rumours about her. Or cutting the left sleeves off all her outfits, Or snipping off the end of all her shoes or maybe tippexing decorative designs on them. You cannot get arrested for any of that!
          Blame the victim? I think you’ll find men are the victim as often as women are if not more. But oh how you feminists adore your fabricated victimhood eh?

          • Liz

            You call anonymously uploading intimate photos (often taken in secret) and then whining like a baby that it wasn’t them until it gets proven in court that it was, confrontational?

            Whatever you say, Tarzan.

            • Gwangi

              Are women prosecuted for the same?
              No.
              Why?
              The institutional misandry and gender bias of our outdated legal system, which is stuck in some chivalrous fantasy age where women are innocent little things no matter what they do (funnily enough, feminists are the same as they infantlise women and blame any crime they commit on men and the ‘patriarchy’, that mythical beast no-one has ever seen – like a big fat Femi-yeti, innit?)

              What women do to their ex-partners is evil and often involves brainwashing children to hate their fathers – which is child abuse, no? Not to mention selfish and deeply wrong.

  • Liz

    “What shouldn’t be applauded is her dumb decision to allow someone to film her doing something she’d rather not have published on the internet. Was she aware of the cult of revenge p*rn? Maybe not. She is now. She’s become the poster girl for the dangers of it.”

    Oh for goodness sake. Are you aware of credit card fraud? Do you still use your credit card?

  • swatnan

    I don’t know. Such publicity didn’t do much harm to Sarah Palin; in fact she made a fortune out of it. On the other hand it finished Monica Lewinsky.

    • Kaine

      It didn’t do much harm to the rather hunky father of Palin’s grandchild either, who got a couple of hundred grand for some racy pics in his hockey gear if memory serves.

  • callingallcomets

    Just when you thought that Seb Payne had reached the bottom of the barrel with his UKIP put downs the Speccie produces this “bright young thing” to tell us she was very silly to let someone take a nude photo of her….oh and she just happens to be a UKIP supporter.
    The real crime here is that Lara Prendergast got paid for airing these vapid thoughts…

  • CortUK

    The only thing that makes me angry about this story is that I can’t for the life of me find the damned pictures.

    • Liz

      Because you like getting off to women without their consent?

      • CortUK

        Sorry, I don’t debate with misandrist b*tches with obvious prejudices against all men.

        • Liz

          Yes I have a misandrist prejudice against wannabe rapey creeps who want to help themselves to women’s bodies without consent and laugh about it.

          Call me old fashioned. Or cutting edge. Or a b*tch.

  • D. Addy

    Those with even a little memory will remember that Tony B. Liar had a whole travelling circus of staff masquarading as spontaneous supporters posing for the press.

  • cartimandua

    And who has ignored or written “tough” about this? This whole article is a straw man or rather straw woman.
    The person who should be outed and shamed is the ex lover who has behaved in such a vile way.

  • anyfool

    That’s what I like about feminist writers, their utter loyalty to other women, but only if these other women are their kind of women.
    Two faced harpies the lot of them.

    • Liz

      Moron

      • anyfool

        Yes that Caitlin Moron is a one, unless you meant Piers Moron, he is a bit girlie and would be at home among them.

        • Liz

          The Speccie loves sticking the boot in to women. They’re right behind their other favourite targets, immigrants and Muslims.

          It’s a fanzine for chauvinists.

          • Gwangi

            All feminists ARE chauvinists – maybe that is why they get so het up when anyone dares challenge their lazy thinking, asinine assumptions and fabricated victimhood.

            • Liz

              Ah fabricated. The victimisation is all in your heads girls.

              But don’t ever let your guard down and trust a man or Lara and the boys will be all over you.

    • Gwangi

      Yep true – feminists are far more misogynistic than any men ever are or ever have been. They are so angry and disappointed that most women are not like them and these women get called traitors and idiots.
      Always reminds me of the story of the little boy who is marching out of time with the rest of the brass band. His mum says :’why is everyone marching out of step with little Johnny?’

      • oopsilaffatatory

        “Yep true – feminists are far more misogynistic than any men ever are or ever have been. ”

        If you said some feminists were more misandristic than some men are misogynistic it would be pushing the bounds of credibility, but possible.

        To suggest that all feminists are more hateful to women than men have ever been is so staggeringly ridiculous as to be beyond contempt.

  • Holly

    Maybe it’s ‘today’s brand’ of feminism that empowered this young woman to think herself ‘powerful’, to do what she did, hopefully voluntarily, with one of the men who grew up in today’s empowered women society?
    A decade ago this kind of bloke would have shown the pictures to his, ‘mates down the pub’, not sent them to a national newspaper/’elsewhere’, regardless of who she works for.

    I think we have a huge problem with ‘progress’, ‘red lines’, and ‘civil behaviour’ towards those who pass through our lives.

    The last thing this lass needs is today’s feminists ‘help’/advice.

  • Realpolitik/ fruitcake/ racist

    I’d prefer that to the idea of fat sweaty Tories running around a hotel room naked during a debauched weekend at the taxpayers’ expense.

    • Denis_Cooper

      I recall reading a story about a woman who had an affair with a grossly fat Tory MP, let us call him “X”, and described his love-making as like having a wardrobe falling on her with its key sticking out of the door.

      • Fergus Pickering

        That was Prescott. I swear it was.

        • Denis_Cooper

          The story was revived about Prescott, but it was said to have originally referred to a Tory MP “X”.

          • Alexsandr

            Soames…

            • Denis_Cooper

              Might have been …

              • dmitri the impostor

                Ah, yes. F*tty S, IIRC. Though the image is I think topped
                by the late Clarissa Dickson Wright, seduced by a Tory MP behind the Speaker’s chair. ‘He wanted to show me the floor of the House.’

              • Ben

                Could have been a mayor of some sort?

  • Streben80

    No doubt that Lizzy has millions of Kippers supporting her, perhaps a boycot of The Sun is in order?

    • Holly

      Perhaps a boycott of the bods who buy the Sun might be a better strategy.

      • Gwangi

        Plenty of women buy The Sun too, y’know. And the readership of the Daily Mail is mostly female.

        • Liz

          He didn’t try to sell them to the Daily Mail.

  • tastemylogos

    Put your hand up if you didn’t google, ‘Lizzy Vaid Nude’.

    Liars

    • the viceroy’s gin

      I did, but it came up empty. Blast. How’d you make out?

      • tastemylogos

        empty too. Just a lot of penis images for some reason. Peter Hitchens would scowl.

    • Holly

      Hands up.

      • tastemylogos

        Oh Holly. You always were far too classy for me, babe.

        • Liz

          You heard of that thing called consent? You don’t have it.

          • La Fold

            Much like you and a sense of humour then?

            • Liz

              Can you explain to me what is funny about groups of men sexually humiliating a non-consenting woman for kicks?

              Because I don’t get the joke.

              • La Fold

                Where did I say that rape was funny you aboslute zoomer?
                Get off your high horse once and a while and come see what the weathers like on our planet.
                The joke was that this is an article condeming the sun for publicising what is a shameful breach of trust and tastemylogos then asked how many people had when and googled for the pictures after reading this article, whcih I imagine a fair few did.
                But you make out i find rape funny if it makes you feel better about yourself, you absolute dry lunch.

          • tastemylogos

            Hi Lizzy. I bought you a Kinder Egg. Love you

    • Slicer

      I did but didn’t find any.

  • colliemum

    What – no new UKIP “scandal” to fill today’s UKIP smear job? So the Speccie must now resort to a bit of concern trollery?

    You’re pitiful.

    • roger

      How about some LibDem pederasty to balance the coverage.

    • oopsilaffatatory

      I rather enjoyed the “poster”

      If your not Ukip
      Your not British

      VOTE UKIP
      (sic)

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        “If you don`t support a football team, you`re not British.
        If you don`t eat British food …”
        Heard it all before.
        Jack, Japan Alps

        • George Smiley

          You are definitely not British anyway, so what is your point?! I mean, you don’t even pretend to live in this Country!

          Can you still be British, if you hate being British so much that you feel the need to publicly declare each and every time as to how much you hate anything and everything remotely British? Stop torturing yourself, you schizophrenic troll!

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            I think we`re getting closer to analyzing Jock`s psychological problems. “You can`t be British if you bad-mouth Britain.” A lot of Brits passively agree with this but few come right out and say it. England, too small for a country, too big for a lunatic asylum.

            • George Smiley

              You are about as British as a Chinese who speaks Japanese with a strong Korean accent trying to pass off as a Japanese!

      • George Smiley

        Like most other right-thinking, reasonable, rational, patriotic-minded good true British subjects, I would be more than happy to believe otherwise and change my mind accordingly, if the mostly Pakistanis of—and the sons and daughters of the other never-entirely-been-that-welcomed guest workers now in—the West Riding of Yorkshire, Lancashire, the Midlands, Leics., Cambs. and Greater London and Middlesex were happy to do the decent, honourable and patriotic thing for once, instead of keep on block-voting back in the treasonous Labour, Lib Dem and George “taking-the-proverbial” Galloway lot!

  • Jez

    The UKIP want to have this girl on their Election broadcast and point out just what double standards and venom has been metered out by so called liberals.

    Should bag them another million or two votes.

    • HookesLaw

      The Sun did not publish the photos and ‘liberals’ did not either take or pose for them
      Perhaps kippers should take time out to ponder on the truism that what adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is their own business.

      • Denis_Cooper

        The Sun did not publish the photos, just announced their existence to the world and said that they were “‘too graphic to reproduce — or even describe’ in print or online”. So that’s OK then.

        • trevorbrookingslegs

          Too graphic to even describe – lol. That’s never stopped them before.

          This is the most feeble smear attempt yet.

          • Denis_Cooper

            Yet endorsed by this tribal Tory loyalist, HookesLaw, so what does that tell us about how low the Tory party has now sunk?

            • Ben

              Says it all. The Establishment are the scum of the earth and are not fit people to exercise power and influence.

              Up theirs!

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Graphic! Suck it up.

          • George Smiley

            Suck on yourself, you pointless, mindless pedant!

          • Denis_Cooper

            Been away for the past week?

            • George Smiley

              As in, a Japanese ex-public-schoolboy who has been back to where he came from (and probably in a Japanese loony bin as a schizophrenic!) for the last 10 years or so, but refusing ever to accept that he was and is never British?!

              • Jackthesmilingblack

                Well you know what they say, Jock. You`re never alone with schizophrenia. Just as well in your case as forming close relationships is particularly for those suffering from obsessive compulsive disorder.

      • wayne

        So Hook, she deserved it then??? The author of this article and the rest of us can read you like a book. So shallow, so hollow, unable to and incapable of seeing right from wrong above your petty political view point, even going as far as to suggest that the Sun did not publish due to decency. Not only are you PC lot disgusting, you are a true danger to society

    • Blakenburg

      UKIP is a ‘Broad Church’. If people are concerned about the way Britain is going regardless of their privte lives, then they will support and vote to put things right. If some people are concerned about moral standards, then they should start looking at their own first.

  • Penny

    I’m the most patient of souls but for heaven’s sake – give it a rest!

  • Alexsandr

    Freddy gray is being naïve. It is quite possible to take photos of your partner without them knowing with modern kit.

  • you_kid

    What waffle.
    Must I forever invert things to demonstrate how non-causal this all is?
    Why NOW make the case against something only because ‘the beach votes UKIP’?

    The level of discourse is dumbfounding. Why the Spectator engages in BBArt setting the ‘debate’ is beyond all those who now observe a new all-time low of political reporting.

    • trevorbrookingslegs

      “What waffle”

    • Holly

      ‘New all time low’…of political reporting….

      Maybe you should do less ‘inverting of things’, and pay attention to what has been going on since 1997.

  • dmitri the impostor

    Got that everybody? Be careful of who you allow to film you on the job. Otherwise it might go round the universe five times and – quite fortuitously – provide grist to the mill of a Spectator smear campaign.

    Jesus. Metropolitan creeps for whom the word ‘counterproductive’ might never have been invented.

    • Colonel Mustard

      Pathé News once filmed me on the job.

      • Denis_Cooper

        That will be online now, apparently.

        But it would need somebody to trawl through all the thousands of editions to find the one in which you featured, and that is best done by using taxpayers’ money to employ a “consultant”:

        http://www.w4mpjobs.org/JobDetails.aspx?jobid=45223

        • Colonel Mustard

          It is but I found it within ten minutes because I knew what I was looking for.

  • The_Missing_Think

    What a squalid little McCarthyist dump ‘Britain’ has become.

    Still, as the smears attacking UKIP get lower and lower, they also drive the Scottish anti-McCarthyist dump vote higher and higher…

    Which in effect, trashes Labour’s 59 Scottish MPs, so Labour are actually damaging themselves with every sneer and smear of UKIP (ha ha ha), but don’t tell them…

    • Ambriorix_Le_Belge

      Indeed. The 50+ Scottish leftist seats give the Labour Party disproportionate punching power at Westminster. If they got independence, say goodbye to Labour ever winning a general election again.

      • Jimmy

        Really? They’d have won in 1997 and 2001 without Scotland, and it would have been pretty close in 2005.

        • The_Missing_Think

          You’re still calculating in dusty three horse race mode, UKIP are on 20%, so it’s now a four horse race, so this fact, makes all predictions based on past results, obsolete garbage.

          You’re also ignoring the Scottish cabinet factor, this simply cannot ever happen again, post seperation. No more Blairs, Browns, Reids, etc.

          Hip hip… boo, say the confused Tories and kippies.

          • Jimmy

            Well of course none of us can predict the future. My point is that Labour is perfectly capable of winning an election without Scotland. And if Ukip does well, the chances are that it will drain votes away from the Tories and make a Labour victory more likely. Such are the delights of our electoral system.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              You’re missing the larger picture though. Jockistan is currently pulling to the Left, but if it departs Lab will naturally start moving closer to the center. It will have to. And UKIP is pulling in a conservative direction, so the rCons will have to move that way as well. The center of mass moves, as a result.

      • ajibee

        Not true. Scottish constituencies are the same size as English constituencies. Many years ago they were smaller, but not by a great deal. As for saying goodbye to Labour in rUK, that is also completely wrong – in 1997, 2001 and 2005, the last three Labour election wins, they had large majorities of MPs within England alone – more than 100 in 1997, almost 50 in 2005, so England got the government that England voted for, sadly, regardless of how Scotland voted.

    • Jack Back

      UKIP do it to themselves then cry victim

    • oopsilaffatatory

      “What a squalid little McCarthyist dump ‘Britain’ has become.

      Why? Has the government started rounding up Communists and stopped them from getting jobs?
      I thought it was just a case of phone tapping, snooping on the internet and rogering activists?

  • Denis_Cooper

    At the end of this article I am left unable to decide whether or not the author thinks that this is a proper way to conduct an election campaign.

    • HookesLaw

      what … you mean pretending to be an independent objective reporter whilst all the time you are parroting your employers propaganda?
      You do have to wonder what goes on inside kipper hq

      • Denis_Cooper

        I have to wonder what goes on inside your head.

        • Wessex Man

          Please Denis don’t go there it could do lasting damage inside that dark place!

      • tastemylogos

        Entity can’t be arsed paying somebody to front marketing poster so uses a rather fit employee to espouse the virtues of said entity… shock fking horror.

        Good grief. As Denis asks, What goes on in your head? Indeed

      • wayne

        This young woman could have raped live on TV and this guy would find some way to make it OK because she’s a Ukipper

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Prime time television in trash culture UK.

          • George Smiley

            Sick! You are obvious a dangerous schizophrenic already in some sort of a loony bin!

            • Jackthesmilingblack

              When Mad Jock tells me I`m living at home with parents, unemployed, no car … you can be fairly certain he`s describing himself. See you got the keyboard privileges back.

              • George Smiley

                There is no proof that I had ever said that you had a father! Now, that would really be libellous!

                • Jackthesmilingblack

                  That puts me in the same category as Jesus Christ.
                  It`s your long-suffering sister you`re living with, right Jock?

  • Colonel Mustard

    It’s pure Marcusean. Anyone who does not conform to the left’s orthodoxy has no legitimacy and is fair game for any amount of nastiness to discredit them.

    • Liz

      What, you think the Spectator covers things even-handedly? There are a whole lot of things that never see the light of day in this mag’.

      • Colonel Mustard

        Don’t think I wrote “The Spectator covers things even-handledly” did I?

        But in point of fact you are probably not the best judge of what is “even-handed” anyway.

        • Jim Eblett

          Hmm, sounds like neither of you are…

        • Liz

          I’m a pretty good judge of what is in the Guardian vs the Spectator as I read both every day. There are glaring gaps in each.

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        You mean like Jamie Oliver successfully suing McDonald`s, charging them with selling food unfit for human consumption? Thus forcing McD`s to change the burger recipe. “Pink slime”, great turn of phrase.

        • George Smiley

          Except, when did he ever actually exactly “[charged] them with selling food unfit for human consumption” in so many words, you mad, libellous schizophrenic?!

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            One detail I omitted to mention was that McDonald`s (name ring a bell, Jock?) used ammonia to clean the meat scraps for their burgers. McD`s claimed it wasn`t an ingredient, but the judge thought differently. Which must have been the clincher for Jamie`s case as it forced McD`s to change their recipe.
            But hey, thank`s for that second bite of the cherry opportunity. Blog in haste, regret at leisure. Now how about an apology, dumb$hit?

            • George Smiley

              A load of conspiracy-planet gibberish from someone blogging from either a prison or a mental hospital, evidenced by the strange apostrophe!

      • wayne

        Instead of being indignant and jumping to this woman’s defence you are changing topic and making excuses.. Typical liberal lefty.Disgusting!!!! Take a good look at yourself in the mirror, how brain washed are you?

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