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Cooper’s stop-and search intervention shows danger of giving ground

18 February 2014

18 February 2014

David Cameron and his political aides are reportedly stalling over reform of stop-and-search powers because they fear it will dilute the Tories’ tough-on-crime message. But this means that Labour, circling like vultures for any waft of political roadkill, have swooped. Yvette Cooper has written to Theresa May offering Labour’s support in getting reform of the powers. Cooper says:

‘I hope that you will not give in to the Prime Minister’s opposition to change. Everyone agrees that the police need to have powers to stop and search individuals suspected of crime or to prevent a serious threat. Intelligence-led targeting of suspected criminals helps to cut knife crime and youth killings.

This is the problem with dithering. It means now that if Theresa May wins her fight, Labour can take some of the credit.


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  • CharlietheChump

    This is why Gove is the most significant and effective Minister, no dithering, a clear set of targets, an aggressive timetable, clear communications and ignore the bleating opposition (No 10?).

  • 2trueblue

    Come on Isabel, the wee screecher can never be compared to May. You simply can not outclass May with Cooper. Cooper has acquired a phoney northern accent which goes with the equally phoney accent Balls uses.

  • Mynydd

    Labour is the official opposition, it’s job is to hold the government to account. This is most difficult when the government fails to speak with one voice. Here we have Mrs May and Mr Cameron falling out over

    • Nicholas chuzzlewit

      Labour Party troll. Ignore.

      • Mynydd

        Say what you want, it’ll not stop the government falling apart. Truth will out.

        • Nicholas chuzzlewit

          Yes I am sure we all cannot wait for the Fascist scum of the Labour Party to take over.

          • Mynydd

            Fascism, is an extreme right-wing system of government, therefore Mr Miliband (Red Ed) cannot be a Fascist and a Marxist (left-wing) at the same time.

            • allymax bruce

              Oh yes he can.
              Go too far to the Ultra liberal-Left, and you come out on the Ultra far-Right. Crony Bliar’s Ultra-Left gov’ forced on us more laws (3000+), in his first two terms than had been introduced previously in the last 30 years! Just ask poor old Walter who was charged with the Terrorism Act when he heckled Blair at a Labour conference.

            • Nicholas chuzzlewit

              No . As always you are wrong. It is a form of extreme authoritarian government such as the national Socialist party ( the clue is in the word socialist). Labour is an extremely authoritarian party that loathes democracy and is determined to curtail free speech. Labour is a fascist party.

              • Mynydd

                Oxford English Dictionary
                Fascism – an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government. DERIVATIVES fascist, fascistic ORIGIN 1920s (with ref. to Mussolini’s regime in Italy)
                Socialism – a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. DERIVATIVES socialist
                From these definitions it is not possible to be both fascist and socialist at the same time. What you can say that because MR Cameron believes organizations must be regulated (Ofgem, Ofwat etc) he is therefore a socialist.

                • Nicholas chuzzlewit

                  The Labour Party is a fascist party. It is authoritarian, anti-democratic and corrupt.

        • Fergus Pickering

          I haven’t noticed the government falling apart. In what way?

          • Mynydd

            There is none so blind as those who don’t want to see.

            • Kitty MLB

              I think those words describe foolish Labour followers who
              without any acquaintance of reality devotedly
              follow their leader without question- blind loyalty !
              I also know from Telemachus, what you all would like,
              move Ed ‘the unready’ Milipede out of the way,
              to allow Mr and Mrs Balls to run the country ( heaven forbid)
              Theresa May is doing an excellent job,and so far superior
              to anything Labour can offer- so put that in your cake and eat it !

  • anyfool

    When crimes of the sort mainly specific to an individual culture are treated differently under the law and the methods of prevention used are downgraded for these crimes, indicates that they should be considered less offensive than crimes by other cultures, Pick and mix the laws you want to enforce in the pursuit of votes and the end for the country as a single coherent entity is the only possible result.
    The depths that the current political parties will sink to is almost beyond comprehension, ethnic, religious and racial wars will be the result.

  • Mr Creosote

    Isabel, saw you doing the Papers last night on BBC. Please keep your head still , it looked like you were watching a tennis match.

  • GraveDave

    This is the problem with dithering. It means now that if Theresa May wins her fight, Labour can take some of the credit.
    So – what? Isn’t reducing crime and saving lives a bit more important than who takes the credit? You sound pathetic in fact.

  • Frank

    Tory message about being tough on crime??? What about Maria Miller?

  • allymax bruce

    I would say to Home Secretary Theresa May that she’s in a win/win situation. If Yvette Cooper agrees with Theresa just now, then it’s duplicitous, and insincere to say otherwise at the campaigning stage next year. Theresa has all the cards here. But I’m not surprised; Theresa May has done an excellent job as Home Secretary. Yvette could be playing the popularity stakes game; you know, stand next to a popular person, and by association you become popular too?

    • HookesLaw

      Take a look at what Cooper is actually saying she wants. Is she really backing what May and the govt want?

      • allymax bruce

        Labour Party ‘politiking’ is all about ‘being in the game’; somehow, anyhow. If Yvette wants to show she’s of the same principles as Theresa, (only to fool the Public into thinking there’s no difference between Conservative values, as compared to Labour values), then Yvette has straddled herself with potential rhetoric of ‘duplicitous & insincere’; what we know better as ‘misleading the House/Public’. This said, if Yvette began to introduce slight doubts of change to Theresa’s policy, (playing to the gallery, to make out Yvette is the same as Theresa, but better), then it would be basic strategy to denounce Yvette as ‘just another Labour liar’. Theresa has all the cards; all she needs to do is have faith in her own abilities. Anyone can see Labour’s game; Labour ‘politiking’ is now embedded in the social psyche of the UK electorate.

  • In2minds

    Can we reform Cameron?

  • HookesLaw

    So can you shout that a bit louder then – ? Labour actually ‘want’ to increase stop and search powers? How pleased the black and asian community must be to hear that. How strange you do not condemn the opposition for being all things to all people but instead chose to attack the govt.

    PS
    in fact Cooper wants to restrict the use of section 60 searches, ‘which do not require any grounds for suspicion, to ensure they are not used for dealing with routine crime problems, and requiring a more senior level of authorisation.’
    So you must wonder how serious Cooper is at all.

    • Kitty MLB

      At the moment Labour are still in the irrelevance of opposition,
      they can lie, point their fingers and bluff as much as they like.
      You can also be all things to all people when you do not have any responsibility for a single issue.

      • HookesLaw

        Yet you want to put them in power.

        • Fergus Pickering

          I don’t think she said that.

  • Kitty MLB

    The determined Theresa May must be shaking in her elegant
    shoes at the prospect of being circled by Yvette Cooper.
    Especially with her look of false anguish and devastation,
    as if someone just trod on her little pet Cat ( or swung him around the room)
    An actor who struts her stuff, describes that woman.
    Labour are nothing but political vultures! have nothing of any substance to offer,
    have taken no responsibility for the increase of crime levels in this country under their watch,
    they created the preposterous political correctness obsession ( which the police live by) and can never take any credit for a single thing.

  • IanH

    Isabel, it’d only have any impact on media luvvies, as you note it’s blatant opportunism and we out here see that rather than some credit for Yvette

    • GraveDave

      Diddums. Wtf does it matter.

  • JoeDM

    Why should their be reform over ‘stop and search’?
    Is it failing to find enough criminals?
    Or is there some wet Cameroonian, politically correct agenda at work again ?

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