25 years after the Rushdie fatwa, are we more or less afraid of Islamism?

14 February 2014

1:37 PM

14 February 2014

1:37 PM

It’s 25 years since the late Ayatollah Khomeini issued history’s worst Valentine’s Day message to author Salman Rushdie, during that momentous spring when communism began to topple in Poland and Hungary, the world wide web was invented, and the Iranian leader issued in a new age of religious tension.

The background is full of paradoxes and ironies, such as the fact that the book had been on sale in Tehran for months before and no one seemed to care, and the whole thing was rather cooked up as part of Iran’s struggle with the Saudis; for anyone interested in the background I can’t recommend Kenan Malik’s From Fatwa to Jihad highly enough.

But what really matters is the answer to the question: have things got better or worse? Are we more cowed now than we were then? I would say, overall, that they’ve got worse, but then I would say that.

It’s striking when you read about people involved in the novel how naïve their attitudes seem in retrospect; today such a book proposal, even from someone as great as Rushdie, would be destroyed in the first trimester. No one would touch it.

Unfortunately that’s because British society rather set the tone in 1989, including a great deal of conservatives who did not back Rushdie to the hilt, a grave error of principle and self-interest (easy to say now, I’m sure I would have done the same).


Liberals were more split, between supporters of freedom and supporters of equality, and still are to some extent; the cultural relativism line has worn thin, but as with the recent question of the segregation of the sexes you still find people using tortured logic to defend such practices and calling it a Right-wing plot to discredit Islam.

That’s because, like Rushdie’s tormentors, the religious reactionaries of 2014 have been given protection by the politics of race; another, less discussed factor, is the culture of censorship established by the campus thought police of the 1970s and 1980s.

Later, much damage was done by the overuse of the rather dubious term ‘Islamophobia’. This came to the fore during the 2005 Danish cartoon crisis, when newspaper columnists threw around the I-word even as their own papers were scared – literally Islamophobic – of printing some stupid cartoons.

Nineteen-eighty-nine seems like an alien place to us, now; can you imagine explaining to someone from that year that 25 years later people from Sussex would be traveling to Syria to blow themselves up in the name of Islam? Go further back and explain that to someone another 25 years away, in 1964, when Beatlemania was at its height and Larkin, Lady Chatterley and the pill had all happened. Part of this is just sheer demographic change; when the pill was introduced Britain’s Muslim population was 50,000 – one in a thousand – and when Rushdie’s book was released it was under 2 per cent. It’s now 5 per cent and among my children’s generation double that. Does that suggest to anyone that a new Satanic Verses will be permitted this century?

There are optimistic signs among those who value liberty; although only a tiny proportion of British-Pakistanis identify as atheists, there is a small but growing population of liberal and ex-Muslims prepared to make the criticism and ridicule that all religions must be met with if they are not to oppress those around them (the same pressures that affected Christianity, and rightly so). The recent attempts by self-appointed ‘community leaders’ to whip up outrage over the Jesus and Mo cartoons were met with an impressive unity by London society.

As long as that continues a better future awaits everyone, not the least western Muslims, none of whom are helped by secular people ‘respecting’ their religion by being too scared to criticise it.

After the cartoon saga lots of weasel-worded western politicians chided the poor Danes for not ‘respecting’ Islam, as if people firebombing churches over a cartoon they’d never seen were worthy of respect rather than contempt; but respect in one sense simply means fear, and that’s exactly what people have felt these last 25 years.

As Nick Cohen has pointed out before, it is because we are scared to admit that we are afraid that religious reactionaries are still able to use the cloak of victimhood to use western liberal arguments to attack liberalism. Once we all admit this depressing truth, we’re halfway there. So let’s all just say it – I’m afraid!

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  • Trapnel

    And did Coffeehouse publish a Jesus & Mo to illustrate Charles Moore’s recent piece? Thought not … perhaps Unity ran out.

  • global city

    I don’t know about more or less afraid, what I do know is that, thanks to Nulabour, we are all in much graver danger than we were 25 years ago.

    They opened the gates. Those who despise us needed no Trojan Horse.

  • Dean Jackson

    Here’s the 1989 fatwa:

    “We are from Allah and to Allah we shall return. I am informing all brave Muslims of the world that the author of The Satanic Verses, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, the Prophet of Islam, and the Qur’an, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to death. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to kill them without delay, so that no one will dare insult the sacred beliefs of Muslims henceforth. And whoever is killed in this cause will be a martyr, Allah Willing. Meanwhile if someone has access to the author of the book but is incapable of carrying out the execution, he should inform the people so that [Rushdie] is punished for his actions. Rouhollah al-Mousavi al-Khomeini.”

    Firstly, the fatwa contravenes Islamic law, which requires a trial for capital offences against Islam, and blasphemy is a capital offense. Secondly, Islam forbids Muslims from breaking laws of the non-Muslim nations in which they reside or visit. When confronted with these facts by Muslim jurists, Khomeini accused them of attempting to use religious law as “a flag under which they can crush revolutionary Islam.” Revolutionary Iran? Islam is Islam, there’s no “revolutionary” to it, meaning it’s Khomeini & company committing blasphemy!

    So just how did Khomeini gain power, you ask? It was a Moscow-tasked CIA coup that overthrew the Shah in 1979 and gave the world a bent Muslim nation. Purpose, you ask? Because Moscow & Allies were preparing the “War on Terror” that would (1) destroy the prominence of the United States in the eyes of the world; (2) destroy the Bill of Rights; and (3) as the prominence of the United States waned abroad, the prominence of Russia would increase.

    Have you noticed the great PR Russia received thanks to its peaceful resolution to Syria’s chemical weapons, not to mention the asylum given to Edward Snowden? Now you know you’ve been snowed by the Snowden operation, although you should have suspected something was wrong when Snowden flew directly to COMMUNIST Hong Kong from Hawaii, and his passport wasn’t flagged by TSA computers (Top Secret clearance holders can’t travel to Communist locations!). If you watch RT, notice how they ridicule the thuggish foreign policy of the United States, especially loving to point out to the world that CIA drones never miss in wiping out a wedding procession in Pakistan, Yemen (or where ever).

    Pay close attention to RT, since its reporting on foreign policy is real time data on Communist strategists’ current plans/revisions.

    Take a look at these pictures out of Russia…—Air/Antonov-An-12BK-PPS/1584360/L/


    Then for Russian Naval vessels, take a look at what’s still appended to the bows (enlarge picture)…

    Those pictures were taken in 2009, 2004 and 2013, respectively, not before the “collapse” of the USSR. As you can see, the distinct Soviet era nationality emblem of the Communist Party…the distinct-designed Red Star… is still present. That political symbol of the Soviet government would have been immediately removed in early 1992 if the “collapse” of the USSR were genuine. As the legal emblem of the USSR and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the distinctive Red Star nationality emblem can only be present if Communists are still in power in Russia and the other 14 republics that made up the USSR.

    Take a look at what’s still on Aeroflot aircraft…

    Note the Soviet emblem of the hammer & sickle stenciled on the Aeroflot aircraft’s fuselage!

    Now, for the main paper of the Russian Ministry of Defense…

    “Krasnaya Zvezda” is Russian (no kidding!) for “Red Star”, the official newspaper of Soviet and later Russian Ministry of Defense. The paper’s official designation is, “Central Organ of the Russian Ministry of Defense.” Note the four Soviet emblems next to the still existing Soviet era masthead, one of which pictures Lenin’s head, the man who removed the independent Russian nation from the map, supplanting it within the new nation called the USSR (the USSR being the nation that was to one day include all the nations of the Earth, incorporation taking place either by violent revolution or deception)! Those Soviet emblems and Lenin’s head can’t still be next to the masthead of the Russian Ministry of Defense’s newspaper due to their association with the Soviet Union and its ideals of world revolution; the nations of the world constituting the Soviet Union!

    The fraudulent “collapse” of the USSR (and East Bloc) couldn’t have been pulled off until both political parties in the United States (and political parties elsewhere in the West) were co-opted by Moscow & Allies, which explains why verification of the “collapse” was never undertaken by the West, such verification being (1) a natural administrative procedure (since the USSR wasn’t occupied by Western military forces); and (2) necessary for the survival of the West. Recall President Reagan’s favorite phrase, “Trust, but verify”. Notice that not one political party in the West demanded verification, and the media failed to alert your attention to this fact, including the “alternative” media. When determining whether the “former” USSR is complying with arms control treaties, what does the United States do to confirm compliance? Right, the United States sends into the “former” USSR investigative teams to VERIFY compliance, yet when it’s the fate of the West that’s at stake should the collapse of the USSR be a ruse, what does the United States do to confirm the collapse? Nothing!

    Now read these two revealing quotes from Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev and former Soviet minister of foreign affairs Eduard Shevardnadze, and what they have in mind for you in the near future:

    “Editor’s Note: The phrases ‘From the Atlantic to the Urals’, ‘From the Atlantic to Vladivostok’ and ‘From Vancouver to Vladivostok’ are interchangeable in the strategists’ lexicon. In the course of his Nobel Peace Prize Lecture, delivered in Oslo in June 1992, Gorbachev said: ‘Our [sic] vision of the European space from the Atlantic to the Urals is not that of a closed system. Since it includes the Soviet Union [sic], which reaches to the shores of the Pacific, it goes beyond nominal geographical boundaries’. Note that Gorbachev, who had been out of office for six months, referred to the Soviet Union, not Russia. In an interview on Moscow Television on 19 November 1991, Eduard Shevardnadze continued speaking as though he was still Soviet Foreign Minister: ‘I think that the idea of a Common European Home, the building of a united Europe, and I would like to underline today, of great Europe, the building of Great Europe, great, united Europe, from the Atlantic to the Urals, from the Atlantic to Vladivostok, including all our territory, most probably a European-Asian space, this project is inevitable. I am sure that we will come to building a united military space as well. To say more precisely: we will build a united Europe, whose security will be based on the principles of collective security. Precisely, collective security’. These statements by key implementers of the strategy reflect the central strategic objective of asserting ‘irreversible’ Russian/Soviet hegemony over Eurasia, thus establishing the primary geographical component of the intended World Government.” — ‘The Perestroika Deception’, by KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn.

    and here’s more on the upcoming “Atlantic to Vladivostok” union…

  • Blazenka Hudson-trograncic

    Islam means ‘submission’ , to the will of ‘god’, which is why it is a religious step backwards in human civilisation. Humanity must liberate human genius, not squash and homogenize it.
    As for Rushdie and ‘magic realism’, hmmmm?

  • Jabez Foodbotham

    How do you set about reducing a subset of the population from 5% to 2% to 50K or even less? Or is such speculation not allowed?

  • Fergus Pickering

    Are we afraid? Yup. Definitively.

  • GraveDave

    Interesting: ‘Muslim convert’ (code words for silly white man) given five year ASBO. One of Choudary’s soldiers, as was Trevor Adebalajo – the man who slit the throat of Lee Rigsby in Woolwich. So how come, knowing all this, Choudary himself, the instigator of this troubled bunch, hasn’t been rounded up and given an ASBO? Not that I believe anyone ought to be rounded up or given an ASBO for mere trolling of hate messages on social media sites. But when you think back to how they treated Emma West, Rebecca Woodcote, Liam Stacey, and all the others since arrested and /or imprisoned on public order offences (though none of these were instigating violence in any way), you have to ask yourself how it is it Anjhem Choudary just keeps getting away with it. But of course the answer is this , that the real crimes of the aforementioned is that ( like the guy below) they are all stupid white people too – who really ought to have known better.

    Muslim convert who agitated for sharia state in UK given groundbreaking asbo
    The Guardian ‎- 21 hours ago Jordan Horner, a Muslim convert, took part in vigilante patrols and … state in Britain has been given a groundbreaking asbo, police have said.
    Vigilante-patrol Muslim given Asbo

  • scampy1

    Why have no muslim grooming gangs been caught in Scotland or Wales?
    Is it the labour leadership in these areas ignoring the problem?
    None in England were caught when Tony the phony Blair and Gordon the clown Brown were in office?

  • Hippograd

    Nick Cohen has pointed out before…

    Nick Cohen is one of those who have got us into this fine mess. Mass immigration by Muslims is very bad for free speech. He has never objected to it. Objecting to it would, of course, be racist. So he’s prepared to sacrifice free speech — and a lot of other things — because he’s scared of being called racist.

  • Tony Quintus

    I have to say I never much liked the book, but I keep a nice hardback copy on my shelf just to remind people that nobody can tell me what I can and cannot read.

    • Fergus Pickering

      Next to Mein Kampf, I take it.

      • Tony Quintus

        No, that is in with the writings of Marx, Mau, Ghandi and all the other political ideologues, the good and the bad.
        Are you telling me you don’t own a copy?

        • Fergus Pickering

          Well, I did and I read it too. But I seem to have mislaid it. A book I never read is Kapital. Too bloody boring.

  • Roy

    The ones who have spoken out, or would like to speak out, have no opportunity since the media has been skewered by the political correctness of society. We should be living in a freedom of speech society but it has been vandalized, corrupted, and extinguished. Who exactly is responsible for this? The biggest mogul of them all in the high stakes media world; the BBC. Yet they still hold to ransom the whole population to have and to hold, to creep into everyone’s home and display what they believe to be their essence of the truth and how things should be. If you the English man in his castle is willing to take this without a murmur, then you deserve to lose all rights since Runnymede.

  • Coleridge1

    Who would have thought 25 years ago that respected journals like the New Statesman would degenerate into a pro-Islamist, rabid Jew-hating rag that publishes garbage from people like Mehdi “non-Moslems live like animals” Hassan?
    Who would have thought that a respected liberal paper like the Guardian, would have at its helm jihadi supporters like Alan Rusbridger and Seamus Milne.
    The Islamist infiltration of our press will soon be followed by jihadi dominion in our universities, by intimidation of MP’s who defy Islamism and infiltration by Muslim settlers into the Foreign Office.
    It is time to stem the onslaught of Islam on our society. The barbaric method of slaughter Halal must be banned. Muslims should be given the choice of editing the racist, women-hating Koran or find that it be outlawed. Muslim settlers who express support for terror organizations should be deported back to apartheid Pakistan.

    • Peter Stroud

      Now come on: you know that Islam is purely a peaceful religion. The BBC and Guardian have told us so.

    • crosscop

      One of the Guardian’s Muslim hacks ( Rana Kabbani) has tweeted that Assad’s wife and children should be raped in front of him. Nice people, eh?

      • anotherjoeblogs

        Ooohhh yeah luvely people and just sooo exotic.

        • FrenchNewsonlin

          Culturally enriching even.

  • Perseus Slade

    Well thank you Salman Rushdie.
    Now we know all about Islam.
    Our eyes are open now.
    We will not blink.

  • Albin

    Not a mention of 9/11 or the excuse it gave the misguided Bush/Blair jihadists? What a Rip Van Winkle historical fermata. If anything, the West has become a bit more discerning about the differences between Islamist radicals and everyday believers, as it has about Catholic, Protestant and Jewish lunatic sects.

  • gerontius

    “25 years after the Rushdie fatwa, are we more or less afraid of Islamism?”

    Depends who you mean by we doesn’t it?

  • tjamesjones

    My version, for what it’s worth, is that the main problem is that Muslims are taught by their religion that they are superior, and right, yet they are (surely) mocked by life where they are by economic measures inferior and at best marginal. There must be a lot of cognitive dissonance being a Muslim in a nominally Christian and largely secular western society. You would end up buying a lot of rubbish sat at home talking about the state of the world, because when your theological ideas seem crazy then crazy easily becomes normal – thus the Sussex jihadist.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Islam is not superior, it’s inferior. It brainwashes children into hating Jews and homosexuals. It persecutes women, it permits the marriage of children to old men in a disgusting travesty of human relations. In inflicts barbaric punishments for “crimes” that would not even be offences in civilized countries.
      Superior? Don’t make me laugh.
      Jack, ….

      • Daniel Maris

        How about re-reading the post – or is patience beyond you?

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          What post? I’m supporting James.

      • Cyril Sneer

        We agree on something Jack.

  • Daniel Maris

    We knew so little about Islam back in 1989. That was pre-internet for nearly everyone. Now – largely under the impulse of 9/11 and 7/7 – millions of people in this country have acquainted themselves with what is said in the Koran, in the Hadith and the history of Mohammed and Islam…and frankly we’re absolutely horrified.

    Very few people in 1989 had any inkling of what was taught in the Madrassas and Mosques. Now they do.

    But at the same time the aggressive apologist for Islam and their allies are busy propagandising in schools on the Islamophobia theme.

    We need some serious legislation to outlaw Sharia, forced marriage, intimidation of apostates, honour killing and persecution of gays and lesbians within Muslim communities.

    • crosscop

      Mass deportation is what is needed.

      • Daniel Maris

        I think we need to retain our values and fight Sharia. “Mass deportation” is a tactic of Nazis, Bolsheviks, and Spanish Monarchs.

        I don’t think it’s British. We need to adhere to what we believe in and deporting people purely on the basis of a “label” is not part of my idea of what it means to be British.

        Even when we faced a very serious, long term Catholic terrorist threat from about 1550- 1700 we never resorted to mass deportation.

        What we have to do is assert our values, not abandon them.

        • Jez

          Didn’t we just burn them at the stake in the 1500’s?


          • Daniel Maris

            Yep we did and we had the test acts. We certainly serious about preventing subversion.

        • crosscop

          “Mass deportation” is a tactic of Nazis, Bolsheviks, and Spanish Monarchs.
          Does it work? That’s all that matters. Oh, and you forgot the mass deportation of French colonists from Algeria.

          • Daniel Maris

            I didn’t support that either. It was an outrageous act. And they were no more colonists than the Arabs in Algeria.

        • MikeF

          “long term Catholic terrorist threat from about 1550- 1700” – sorry that is rubbish. There was one serious incident – the Gunpowder Plot – that could be argued as answering your description. Otherwise there was consistent repression of what had previously been the majority religion of the country in the cause of a gradual increase in centralised state power justified by adherence to a radical new system of religious belief – Protestantism. Now there may be an analogy there with the present day but it isn’t quite what you suggest.

          • Colonel Mustard

            He is hopeless on history and gets it all from half heard notions at his local lefty drop in centre.

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        That isn’t going to happen unless or until the BNP form the UK government. And with elections essentially fixed, you’re only option is to take it to the streets. Some hope in gutless-wonder UK.

        • Newcombe

          BNP and almost the entire European fascist left (yes, they’re lefties) are all essentially Arabist/Islamists. The common glue is the fascism itself and their innate antisemitism. If Islam wasn’t seen as an essentially “Eastern” (it most definately isn’t) and therefore alien, then all Nazis, fascists and sundry bigots would now be Muslims.

        • crosscop

          We’ll probably follow the lead of the French. Marine Le Pen ( unless she is assassinated) will become president and things will definitely get interesting…

    • Colonel Mustard

      “We knew so little about Islam back in 1989.”

      That is because idiots like you knew and cared so little about history apart from the leftist-sponsored, revisionist nonsense that the West was all bad in everything it had done, that we were all guilty and should apologise. People like you peddled the idea that the Crusades were an imperialist venture against the poor muslims of Palestine.

      Any student of mediaeval history worth his or her salt would have known exactly what this is about and consistent with 1,500 years of history.

      You still peddle it in your moronically cartoon attacks on Empire. But if Pax Britannica had endured there would not such a problem with Islam.

      You took down the Christian establishment Church of England stone by stone and put it on a par with any religion that showed up. Now you want the atheists to defend you. Good luck with that.

      • ADW

        There may be some irony here Colonel but (i) I think you’re matching me for the (not worth the name) aggression stakes, and (ii) I happen to agree with you!

        Much as I disdain any religious belief, it is plain as a pikestaff that the wishy-washy believe in nothing CofE is light years removed from the Religion of Peace in virtually any form or manifestation you care to mention. The problem is of course that the CofE is so wet it won’t stand up for its own wet views, and hence says naff all about persecution of Christians in the Middle East, instead spending its time poking its nose into economic debates in this country of which it has no expertise whatsoever.

        Since the CofE is damper than Somerset your (and my, and even the nefarious Maris) only hope is to get a proper separation of church and state and end all religious schools and public funding of religious institutions and “community groups” etc. Otherwise you, me and Maris will all find out what true “aggression” is in due course ….

  • Teddy Bear

    Islamists are failed thinkers as a result of their upbringing who have been brainwashed to use a dogma that permits them to eradicate all others who highlight their shortcomings.
    Within our own society we have our own failed thinkers, whether through upbringing or laziness, who attach themselves to whatever appears to be the ‘popular theme of the day’. For most of these it’s following the BBC agenda, which presents its causes as emanating from care and concern, but their insidious hypocrisy is fairly easy to identify. The key is that they will short-sightedly always take whatever appears to be the safest option, regardless of who it might hurt.

    The Islamist avoids facing their inferiority complex and lack of self esteem by accepting death rather than that. The latter avoids theirs by dhimmitude, thereby showing themselves as respecting the former. Thus we see the vicious circle.

    • Daniel Maris

      Why do you say Islamists are “failed thinkers”? They have a sophisticated view of the world that has survived for 1400 years and which is very resilient. It has a very complex network of thought, covering the nature of God, the history of monotheism, a global project and a fully developed system of law.

      • Teddy Bear

        Perhaps with your ‘sophisticated’ view of it, you would kindly tell us just what you see as its contribution to mankind. Just name one thing. As for ‘complex network of thought’, you must be referring to taqqiya.
        Please don’t bother telling us about the ‘Humanity of the Taliban’.

        • Daniel Maris

          Pathetic nonsense.

          I completely oppose Sharia every inch of the way so your attempt to make me out to be a defender of Islam is absurd.

          My point is that we should not underestimate the power of Islam. It is far more sophisticated than a simple brainwashing programme, although (like all religions) it does show elements of brainwashing.

          You need to take a more intelligent view of what Islam is if you want to defeat it. To take a few points:

          1. If you believe in a monotheistic deity then Islam’s conception of that single deity is very powerful. It is a very stark conception, but that is where the power comes from.

          2. Islam now has 1400 years of social evolution and jurisprudence behind it. Few other ideologies can claim that sort of pedigree.

          3. Islam, no doubt following the image of its founder, seems to offer a strong appeal to humanity – well men in reality – in the sense that it seems to meet all their material and carnal desires. It is not a religion of denial.

          • Teddy Bear

            Now try to concentrate because if you keep avoiding the point I made I will simply not bother replying to you.
            I asked you to name ONE thing that you see Islam has contributed to humanity. All you did is identify certain traits attributable to it, but have not shown ONE that actually gave something new or desirable that increases our qualities as human beings. I understand full well why you have a problem doing that because you can’t find one. Instead you immediately resort to an ad hominem attack which is typical of one that runs out of logic and reason.

            As to your points about monotheistic deities, this is something Jews had for thousands of years before Mohammed came along, so hardly new.

            Since you mention social ‘evolution’, do you actually understand what that means? What can you possibly see as having evolved in any positive sense?

            “It is not a religion of denial!”
            I’ll just leave your final sentence for others to see how ridiculous this statement is. It has nothing new to offer and appeals to a low level mentality not interested in self development, but must adhere to strict exhortations giving them the delusion that only their view of the world is right and they must destroy all others that dispute that.

            Real evolution!

            Finally, if you want to uphold the virtues and morality of Islam, that’s up to you. It’s not for the likes of you to tell anybody else that they have to do the same. Those who feel similarly to myself do so because we have GOOD REASONS to feel that way based on logic and truth. Reading some of your other comments though you don’t seem to know if you’re on foot on horseback, which is why I thought that perhaps you were being satirical with your first reply to me. Now I see you’re seriously confused. I suggest you get help, or spend some time thinking your case through.

          • Fergus Pickering

            Stark. And uncomplex surely. It’s a religion that is suited to peasants.

          • geronimoooo4

            all Islam does is live in denial!

      • Ooh!MePurse!

        The problem is that it is still stuck 1400 years ago.

        • Daniel Maris

          I’m not defending it, I am saying we shouldn’t belittle it. If we do, we do so at our peril.

          • Fergus Pickering

            Oh I don’t know. Jokes are very potent. It’s something against which they have no defence except more violence.

            • FrenchNewsonlin

              … “except more violence”… in which they monotonously and mutinously indulge, and are indulged in, whereas a firm-handed, zero-tolerance policy would quickly bring the barking dogs to heel.

      • Fergus Pickering

        Yup! It’s the global project I don’t like.

        • Icebow

          The text of the Muslim Brotherhood Project could hardly be more explicit.

  • Ricky Strong

    Those at the top are petrified of it. Look at Cameron’s reaction after one of our soldiers was half decapitated on the streets of London. He spent more time defending Islam then anything else. Compare that to Putin’s reaction after the last cowardly bombing in Russia.

    • Daniel Maris

      As did Fraser Nelson with his infamous “no comments allowed” stream of nonsense tweets from people misrepresenting what was in the Koran.

      • Ricky Strong

        I must have missed that. What happened?

    • Cyril Sneer

      BBC Question Time right after the Rigby murder… the title for the show was not ‘are we safe from Islamic extremist immigrants’ but…. wait for it….. ‘is Islamophobia on the increase.’

      You just couldn’t make it up.

  • Gerard Spekboom

    When you oppose this ideology, please remember one thing; Muslims themselves are the main victim of this false prophet and his teachings.

    • Daniel Maris

      Maybe, but let’s not underestimate its strength and at times profundity.

  • zanzamander

    I say less, because now we’re afraid without even realising that we’re afraid. It is like a second nature to us, being afraid of Islam.

    You know I often use to wonder, why didn’t the ancestors of countries that are now Islamic and whose people, by any measurement, are in worse situation than their forefathers were, as to why didn’t these people put up a fight against the invading Islam.

    Now I’m actually living through the nightmare and perhaps one day my descendants will probably wonder the same thing about me. However, in my case, my ignominy is even greater, because I (through my rulers) allowed Islam with open arms and surrendered to it without even a whimper.

    • Shazza

      So sad but so true.

    • manonthebus

      It depends where and when conversion happened. During the First Millennium, in many areas of south-eastern Europe and Asia Minor, rule by the invading Muslims was often preferable to the sheer corruption, cruelty and lack of legal rights under whatever Christian or Pagan dynasty was forced upon you. Muslim rulers were often tolerant of the other ‘religions of the book’ and left their subjects alone in peace apart from a higher rate of tax in leu of military service. The inhabitants of Europe in the path of the Crusaders on their way to Constantinople and thence the ‘Holy Land’ suffered pillaging and murder on a grand scale. As with Christianity, conversion to Islam was often the best way to career advancement. There was no mass forced conversion because that would have lessened the taxes that could be imposed. Of course, everything changes!

      • crosscop

        Nonsense and Islamic propaganda. There were forced conversions and massacres of non-Muslims in every country over-run by the Muslims – from Morocco and Spain to India and Afghanistan. 80 million is an estimate for the Muslim butchery in India alone. Why do you think the Parsees left Persia?

      • Cyril Sneer

        The asylum is that way muzzie. —->

  • Gerard Spekboom

    I would like to thank the Spectator for picking up their jounalistic responsibility, through people like West and Murray, the Spectator is one of the few Lighthouses in the Mainstream Media Darkness sea. Indeed we are living in the most crucial times ever.

    • Donafugata

      Hear, hear.

      So few have the courage to speak out against the barbarous cult.

      • Paul J

        They’re supposedly our allies in Syria. How the heck did that happen?

    • Shazza

      Totally agree.

    • anotherjoeblogs

      well said !

  • andy_gill

    The greatest threat that the non-Islamic world faces is Islam. In particular, Europe is at risk because of a growing proportion of Muslims who owe their allegiance to their religion rather than their country.

    This is a recipe for a country unable to defend itself abroad, and a broken society at home. We must expunge Islam from the public sphere, and confine it to the mosque and the home.

    • Iain

      You’re falling for Zionist instigated Islamohysteria, hook line and sinker. Islam – along with the various negative side effects of it- is a mere symptom of the disease the western world is suffering from, not the cause.

      • Fergus Pickering

        What disease is that, you Jew-hater, you?

      • geronimoooo4

        ah yes, 0.2% of the world somehow ‘controls’ nearly 25% into killing everybody and each other…?

        correct me if I’m wrong, but would;t that make Muslims UNBELIEVABLY stupid and easily manipulated?

        btw, I definitely agree with the ‘unbelievably stupid’…

      • Coleridge1

        ‘Zionist instigated islamohysteria’ hahahahahahah.
        Carry on suicide-bombing your own mosques in apartheid Pakistan, carry on slaughtering your fellow Moslem co-religionists in Syria and Iraq, carry on beheading Moslems in Saudi Arabia, carry on stoning your own women to death …… and blame it all on the zionists!

      • zakisbak

        No.Just using eyes,ears and senses.

        • luke Goodger

          all of which you obviously don’t have

      • Cyril Sneer

        So you hate Jews.

    • Icebow

      It’s like the Terminator, and/or the Borg. Truly moderate Mohammedans are useful idiots, unconsciously practising taqqiya.

  • Doggie Roussel

    The Ayatollah Khomeini soon realised that getting rid of Salman Rushdie would be doing western literature and culture a huge favour.

    Instead we are still enduring the Unreadable One as he continues to parade in his emperor’s new clothes.

    • saffrin

      The Ayatollah Khomeini believed in none existent deities, which tells us all we need to know about Ayatollah Khomeini.

    • Fergus Pickering

      Don’t be silly. Nobody has to read Rushdie’s books. I don’t. But I think being killed for writing bad books is excessive. Let Dan Brown live.

  • NedMissingTeeth

    What’s worse than the creeping Islamification of the UK is the silence from the mainstream media when it comes to criticism of the religion and its extremes. Islam will be the biggest cause of unrest this country has seen for centuries yet you’d never know if you relied on the BBC for your news.

    • Shazza

      Not just the BBC but Sky and the rest of the MSM.

  • saffrin

    Nuke them before it’s too late.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Nuke who, exactly?
      And they call me a sociopath.

  • Donafugata

    Twenty-five years ago we didn’t even know the meaning of Islamism.
    Although the fatwa on Rushdie was frightening, there were plenty of jokes about the silly ol’ ayotallah.

    Then there was 9/11 and it seemed like the right time to take islam seriously.
    Since then of course, Europe has been invaded by Muslims and with kind permission of the EU, it looks as if Europe will be reconquered and declared an Islamism republic within the next 30 years.
    Unless people wake up, that is.

    • Shazza

      It is not Islamism that is the problem but islam. It is impossible for a 7th century unreformed barbaric ideology to sit comfortably within a modern, secular, 21st century civilisation. Islamic leaders are quite open in their condemnation of our culture and in their ambitions. Our own democracy will prove to be our undoing as slowly, using salami slicing methodology, our institutions are being taken over. Firstly, representation at local government level, then national – all accomplished legitimately using mass voting support by the ever increasing emerging majority – and before you know it, the flag of islam will be flying over Westminster. The Rushdie affair was the thin edge of the wedge – our leaders then and now through cowardice have condemned western civilisation into the bin of history, alongside Rome. Welcome to the new Dark Ages.

      • zanzamander

        Islam, Islamism, you say tomato I say tomahto…

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  • Gerard Spekboom

    I don’t like the word afraid, but I surely hope that we are awakening from our slumber caused by the forced concept of ‘politic correctness’ through criminilising this who oppose ‘the religion of peace’.

    • JoBennets

      And those brave souls who are are awake and street protest about what is happening are condemned out of hand and even imprisoned on the flimsiest of charges, for example shouting at a policeman.

    • Fergus Pickering

      I seem to remember Boris Johnson, then editor of the Spectator, saying Yes, he was afraid of muslims bombing his offices etc etc.

    • Icebow

      If the European Council on Tolerance and Reconciliation had its way, most of the comments in this thread would criminalized.