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Andrew Mitchell vows to continue Plebgate fight

26 November 2013

6:22 PM

26 November 2013

6:22 PM

So Andrew Mitchell is going to pursue his fight with the police over the ‘plebgate’ row, even though the Crown Prosecution Service said there was insufficient evidence to suggest the officer who claimed Andrew Mitchell called him a pleb was lying.

The former Conservative chief whip told a press conference this afternoon that not only is he pursuing his libel action against The Sun newspaper, but that he will use this opportunity in court to force PC Toby Rowland, the officer who wrote the account of the altercation that involved the word ‘pleb’, to give his story under oath. Rowland is not one of the five police officers facing disciplinary action. In a statement at the start of the press conference, Mitchell said:

‘At the start of this episode I was extremely reluctant to suggest that the police had made up this exchange and were not telling the truth. Today we have learned that PC Keith Wallis is being charged with having falsely claimed to have witnessed the incident. I wish now to make clear that Pc Toby Rowland, who was responsible for writing those toxic phrases into his notebook, was not telling the truth. I will seek to say this on oath in a Court of Law and it is our intention to ensure that PC Toby Rowland has similarly to swear his account.’

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A number of backbench Conservative MPs attended the press conference to show their support for Mitchell. David Davis gave a presentation of the CCTV footage, entitled ’49 seconds in Downing Street’, which he argued reinforced Mitchell’s case. He said:

‘Today my section of this briefing was originally intended as a reminder of what you already know – the analysis of the CCTV of the critical 49 seconds in Downing Street against the so-called ‘police log’ – in fact an email first published by the Daily Telegraph. After the CPS comments it is perhaps more important than that.

…The video is from three cameras, two inside Downing and one looking down on the FCO building. The timings are synchronised on the Downing Street cameras, but not the FCO one. There is also footage that we do not have, held by the Metropolitan Police from two other cameras. Our lawyer has seen it, however, and it reinforces our case.’

Mitchell says he is pursuing this case not just because of the effect that it has had on him, but because of the number of people who have contacted him claiming they are victims of what he called ‘similar experiences at the hands of the police’. He had hoped that today would be the beginning of the end of the ‘plebgate’ affair. But clearly it is just the beginning of an even lengthier battle.


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  • Colin56

    Is it not now time for Mitchell to pipe down and move on? This minor kerfuffle has occupied far too much of the media’s attention; and the various investigations have cost – scandalously – far too much of taxpayers’ money, quite disproportionate to the matter at stake. Thrasher lost one of his jobs – but he’s still a rich man, on a publicly funded salary far in excess of what most of his constituents can expect to earn. He’s realised, rather late in life, what most of the rest of us already know – that dealings with the police are not always as straightforward as one might assume. He now knows that not everyone tells the whole truth all the time, as no doubt his nanny / fagmaster taught him. He’s come to understand that not everyone holds politicians and ministers in the esteem which he clearly thinks he is entitled to. He now knows who his real friends are. He should realise that, in political terms, he’s a busted flush, rightly or wrongly; and focus on what’s left of his career, wherever that may be. Only rich and foolish people indulge in libel actions, especially when the defendant is unlikely to have the assets necessary to meet any award and costs involved. Mitchell could move on and demonstrate that, even if he is rich, he is not foolish. And the rest of us could be spared his endless bleatings.

    • rafael

      He’s already demonstrated that he is foolish – too late on that one.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    When you take the wider meaning of “corruption”, namely unfairly advantaging or disadvantaging one person or group, Brit Plod are corrupt.

  • Terry Field

    Do the British police receive guidance and instruction from Vlad Putin and the KGP fitup glee-club? And how is it even possible that these people are able to not make videos open to proper external scrutiny???????

  • Harry Clark

    You would not believe you could be charged under this

    “Contents of Section

    Chapter:245 Title:PUBLIC ORDER ORDINANCEGazette Number:E.R. 1 of 2013Section:17BHeading:Disorder in public placesVersion Date:25/04/2013

    (1) Any person who at any public gathering acts in a disorderly manner for the purpose of preventing the transaction of the business for which the public gathering was called together or incites others so to act shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine at level 2 and to imprisonment for 12 months.
    (2) Any person who in any public place behaves in a noisy or disorderly manner, or uses, or distributes or displays any writing containing, threatening, abusive or insulting words, with intent to provoke a breach of the peace, or whereby a breach of the peace is likely to be caused, shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine at level 2 and to imprisonment for 12 months.”

    (Amended E.R. 1 of 2013)

  • swatnan

    Isn’t it about time Mitchell moved on, and got on with life, instead of moping about the injustice he suffered? Steps are being taken to discipline the culprits. Its not as if all career opportunities have been closed for him.

    • Terry Field

      Steps are hardly being taken to ‘discipline’ the culprits – and just recall the many police orchestrated injustices that resulted in many innocents put in jail for life in Northern Ireland.

      • swatnan

        Many of them were terrorists and deseved to be put away, from both sides of the conflict. No doubt the NI RUC Police had shown bias in those days, but then it was a state of emergency. Things like that happen in civil conflicts; ‘terror’ is used as a weapon, and Police have to take measures to bring order; or the Army. But todays NI Police are a lot different.

    • rafael

      “Steps are being taken to discipline the culprits” – really? In fact the DPS said the leak was in the public interest.

      They also noted that AM account had varied.

  • kcband8

    Note the timing of the CPS decision to prosecute only one police officer.
    On the same day as Scottish independence white paper was issued, ensuring the BBC and news media would NOT lead with story.
    Establishment cover up. How often are we told by CPS “not in public interest – insufficient evidence”
    Bull crap.

    • rafael

      As the DPS say – no sound recording exists which could prove the accounts either way.

  • john p reid

    I see David Davis has criticised this,saying there should have been a more thorough investigation , but the fact that the so called witness wasn’t there came to light after CCTV showed that he couldn’t have been there to hear it,and David Davis is the one who’s against CCTV,

    • HookesLaw

      Agreed.
      However where I think most of us are opposed to CCTV is where say councils use it to fine motorists for stopping on a yellow line for 10 seconds to drop their granny off.
      Where CCTV should be used is in the pursuit of justice not victimisation.

  • Framer

    The CPS amazingly says in relation to the policeman who emailed the gate officer’s account to a newspaper: “We considered whether there is sufficient evidence to give rise to a realistic prospect of conviction for either a breach of the Data
    Protection Act s55 or misconduct in public office. This type of conduct raises issues in relation to the right to freedom of expression, including the right to freely impart and receive information, and these are important rights enshrined in our law. In
    all the circumstances of this case we have concluded that a jury is likely to decide that it was in the public interest for the events at the gate to be made public and it therefore follows that there is insufficient evidence to prosecute any suspect in relation to this leak.”
    In other words if in public office you can leak what you want unless you are associated with Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks. I hope those show trials collapse now.

    • HookesLaw

      Is it a crime to guess at a mobile phone password? Given the furore over the Millie Dowler case I not that they have not been charged with hindering that enquiry.

      • La Fold

        Yes. Especially to listen to voicemail messages without consent.

    • realfish

      The Guardian’s hacking and ‘doing favours’ for coppers, in return for information was also in the public interest according to the CPS. So if you work for certain favoured newspapers it seems you can receive what information you want without criminal sanction.

    • HookesLaw

      How is it in the public interest for false information about what happened at the gate to be made public.

      • La Fold

        So we can see how the dibble lied maybe?

      • rafael

        What is your evidence that it is false?
        You are assuming rather a lot.
        Of course politicians always tell the truth – especially when their careers are at stake.

  • Marc Evans.

    What a wonderful use of taxpayers money. It has happened, lets move on. There are more urgent matters to deal with than bickering over who said what.

    • Darnell Jackson

      What an incredibly naive view.

      Would you simply roll over if they tried to fit you up?

    • kcband8

      Corrupt police – or “bickering” Not important eh?

    • Fergus Pickering

      There are few more urgent matters than justice and police corruption. What are the matters you are thinking of. Drag the bastards to jail in chains. Then we can move on.

  • Harry Clark

    Anybody willing to try getting involved with the police then respond to them with this comment “I thought you guys were supposed to f***ing help us” then report back on how long it took for you to be charged and summonsed appear in court and prosecuted, just in the interest of proving there are different laws for them and us ?

    • Kennybhoy

      LOL

    • Andy

      Swearing in the presence of the Police is not an offence in Law. Nor is swearing at the Police.

      • gladiolys
        • Andy

          As per the Fascist Guardian is wrong. I refer you to the judgement of their Lordships in the Court of Appeal. And you will find that swearing at the police has never actually been an offence in statute.

          • jack mustard

            You do the Guardian a disservice. It was merely reporting that Boris Johnson – to the applause of the Tory conference – called for swearing at the police to be made an offence.

            • Andy

              One can never do the Fascist Guardian a ‘disservice’. As I say swearing at or in the presence of a Police Officer is not an offence. And nor should it be. Some of them are rude and as thick as pig sh*t.

              • jack mustard

                Why couldn’t you have just admitted that you were wrong? Your comment about swearing at the police not being an offence was irrelevant to the point made by @gladiolys. You may believe the Guardian to be fascistic, but on this occasion it is BoJo who should be the target of your ire. As for your criticism of some police officers, I bow to your greater experience…

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        “Swearing in the presence of the Police is not an offence in Law. Nor is swearing at the Police.”
        Just as well, or half the male population in UK would be looking at slammer time.

        • Andy

          Fair comment. But so many Police are so f****** thick and bloody rude they deserve to be sworn at.

    • Dougie

      Far worse language is directed at the police in our town centres every Saturday night. No-one gets arrested for it unless they get violent or fail to “move along”.

  • Andy

    Hardly a surprise. CPS is full of ‘Labour’ placement, and women.

    • HookesLaw

      How can the CPS say there is not a case to answer?
      Pathetic.

      • Andy

        Because it wouldn’t help the Fascist Party to say there is a case to answer, which is as plain as a pike staff that there is.

  • Tron

    “insufficient evidence” is such a great phrase. It means we have evidence but we won’t let a court or the public see it because we know best. Trust us.

  • In2minds

    The police don’t get it do they? Good luck to Mitchell

  • Russell

    Looks like labour not only corrupted the Met, and the Police Federation, but filled the FSA, the Judges and legal system, the BBC, but also the CPS with incompetent placemen!

    • Kennybhoy

      It goes back far further than 1997…

  • David Lindsay.

    So aristocratic Thrasher is determined to humiliate working class Rowland.
    I guess he is determined to demonstrate that he actually is a “pleb” as he is alleged to have written in his notebook.
    I suppose we must sympathise with poor aggrieved Thrasher.

    • Kennybhoy

      Mentulla!

      • David Lindsay.

        I guess your Latin scholarship is not what it was when you left Prep.

        • GUBU

          Sometimes the fact that a word is misspelt cannot detract from the appropriateness of its choice in the first place…

          • David Lindsay.

            The fount of all life then?

            • Kennybhoy

              Jew hating irrumator wrote:

              “The fount of all life then?”

              No that would be testes.

              Anatomy not your strong point culus?

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            “Sometimes the fact that a word is misspelt cannot detract from the appropriateness of its choice in the first place…”
            I beg to differ, Sir. Misspelling shoots your credibility in the foot.

            • HookesLaw

              Cobblers.
              You expect everyone to be brilliant typists? Or even care.
              Grow up.

              • Jackthesmilingblack

                Sad, but hardly a surprising retort from a risk-averse loser stranded in Trash Culture UK, where learning and education are belittled as elitist. This may come as a shock to you, but a spelling check followed by a final reading of content is essentially before submission. After a while the errors literally jump out of the page at you.

                • HFC

                  “…a final reading of content is essentially before submission.”

                  ‘Tis a pity you didn’t take your own advice, Jack.

                • George Smiley

                  I always think that, apart from being a Troll, he is a bit of an attention-seeking Japanese idiot with severe Autism and OCD, and a laptop.

      • Kennybhoy

        Just to clarify. Two months back David Lindsay wrote that during the miners strike:

        “… the “old-fashioned bobbies” actually killed the miners, robbed their bodies, went into their houses in order to rape their womenfolk and loot their possessions, and much more besides.”

        In familiar Lindsay style repeated requests for evidence to back up these allegations were ignored.

        • Nicholas chuzzlewit

          Because everything he writes is a figment of his fevered imagination.

    • Hexhamgeezer

      A working class liar is not to be elevated above a truth telling Tory. Not in this country no matter what you, the BBC, CPS, Police Federation. ACPO or Labour stalinists say.

      • David Lindsay.

        So why are the authorities not prosecuting him.
        Thrasher is doing what you would expect from Thrasher.
        Bullying.

        • Andy

          Because the CPS is stuffed to the doors with your fellow Fascists.

          • David Lindsay.

            Andy, Andy, Andy.
            You are beyond comical.

            • Andy

              And you are beyond an idiot.

            • Nicholas chuzzlewit

              Not as funny as you old boy. labour gain why not?

    • Fergus Pickering

      Since Rowland is a liar and Thrasher is not, I think we can sympathise with Thrasher. Rowland needs a spot of jail time.

      • David Lindsay.

        Jail is full of bullies.
        Thrasher should be there.

        • HookesLaw

          Bully off.

    • HookesLaw

      Everyone is entitled to tell the truth. You are a socialist so that concept is probably beyond you.
      Let the policeman sue if he is prepared to lie under oath he might get away with it.
      What an ignorant nasty piece of work you are.
      And to think some people are conspiring to put you lying toads back in power.

      • Kennybhoy

        “And to think some people are conspiring to put you lying toads back in power.”

        UKIP! :-)

    • Jonathan

      How is he aristocratic? What conceivable relevance do the circumstances of anyone’s birth have to the case?

      If you can’t expand your analysis past knee-jerk prejudice, you’ll never have an original or interesting thought as long as you live.

  • Ron Combo

    Good. Hope he goes all the way.

    • rafael

      he’s already there.

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