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Tommy Robinson: Zionist puppet, Neocon Fraud and Wahhabist Stooge.

8 October 2013

3:56 PM

8 October 2013

3:56 PM

If you ever want a laugh, read the websites of Britain’s collection of far-right political groupings. It is worth doing so if only to remind yourself that the “threat” from right-wing extremists is often rather exaggerated. These people’s relationship with reality is neither firm enough to threaten public order nor coherent enough to win them more than a (relative) handful of deluded followers. Keep an eye on them, by all means, but let’s not make them out to be more than they are.

After all, whenever the far-right does enjoy some success that success quickly evaporates. The public, when it has a chance to see these people for what they really are, tends to disapprove of the cut of their respective jibs. And rightly so. Because, for all that one reasonably despairs from time to time, the British people are, collectively, a pretty decent lot capable of frowning upon and then rejecting extremism. Of all sorts.

So, I suppose some credit is due Tommy Robinson, erstwhile leader of the English Defence League, for leaving the organisation. As he put it:

“I acknowledge the dangers of far-right extremism and the ongoing need to counter Islamist ideology not with violence but with better, democratic ideas.”

He explained his motives for leaving, telling BBC Radio 5 live’s Nicky Campbell: “When some moron lifts up his top and he’s got the picture of a mosque saying ‘boom’ and it’s all over the national newspapers, it’s me, it’s when I pick up my kids from school the parents are looking at me, judging me on that.

“And that’s not what I’ve stood for and my decision to do this is to be true to what I stand for. And whilst I want to lead the revolution against Islamist ideology, I don’t want to lead the revolution against Muslims.”

Doubtless someone will soon claim this makes Robinson more, not less, dangerous. So be it. I have no idea whether Robinson’s catholicism has prompted this, er, Come to Jesus moment but we can all welcome a sinner’s repentance nonetheless.  If Tommy Robinson feels the need to distance himself from neo-Nazis and other thuggish racists then perhaps we can remember to treat the English Defence League as the unrepresentative bunch of goons and cranks they really are. They do not endanger the realm.

But for pure, unadulterated, fascist moonbattery you have to tip your hat to the British National Party. Piqued, no doubt, by the EDL’s ability to win attention previously devoted to the BNP, Nick Griffin’s party released what may just be the most laughable, yet entertaining, press release of the year.


Tommy Robinson, you see, is just another Zionist stooge. Not only that but his departure from the EDL means “Britain’s lively counter-jihad street protest movement is at a crossroads”.

Lively! The sort of word that is PR speak for a Friday night in Cleethorpes.

Be that as it may:

Recently, however, growing resistance to [Robinson’s] pro-Israel and pro-immigration agenda have seen groups such as the Scottish Defence League, Casuals United and various very active Infidel organisations take a steadily higher profile while the EDL has been losing ground.

The Quilliam Foundation is run by ‘ex’ Hizb ut Tahrir extremists who are now taking a gradualist, Fabian approach to Islamising Britain. They are therefore financed both by Wahhabi Gulf states AND by the British government.

They are also closely linked with the same neo-con Zionist elements that we previously exposed as backing Robinson.

So he hasn’t changed masters, though they are now calling a different tune.

There are two reasons for this:

1) With the chances for war on Syria and Iran suddenly much weaker, Tommy’s puppet masters no longer want the white working class fighting mad.

2) They also realised they were losing control of the street movement they created. So they are trying to kill it.

First by passing vicious sentences on Infidel leaders in Liverpool last week, and now by having Robinson and Carroll turn their coats.

This effort will fail. The white working class who make up the vast majority of the street counter jihad movement do not need Zionist outsiders to organise and make an impact.

We call on all genuine EDL members to join with the Infidels, SDL etc and ignore the traitor Robinson.

A British Resistance Council should be formed to co-ordinate future activities.

I know we’re supposed to take these things seriously. But, really, there comes a point at which these ravings cease to be threatening and instead topple into self-parody.

If I have this correct – which may not be the case! – Jews, Wahhabists and Neocons are in fact allies. There’s almost something impressive about this kind of Treblethink. It could even be alarming if it weren’t so obviously risible.

And, again, remember this sort of thing next time the press has a hissy fit over the prospects of a far-right resurgence in Britain. These are the people who are going to be leading it? Pull the other one.

Publicity is not their friend, you know. It is, rather, toxic to them for it unfailingly reveals them to be what they are: pea-brained bigots, fantasists and conspiracy theorists condemned by their own press releases. They cannot prosper – or prosper for long – because of who they are and what they think.

Why, it’s almost as if MI5 were running the show themselves in an effort to discredit the whole “movement”. But with self-parodists like this in command there’s no need for MI5 to be involved at all.

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  • djrh

    The BNP tell the truth, you should try that some time.

  • djrh

    I wrote a comment here on Sunday 13th October explaining the truth about the BNP instead of the usual lies that are spouted. It has not appeared.

  • curri

    If I have this correct – which may not be the case! – Jews, Wahhabists and Neocons are in fact allies. There’s almost something impressive about this kind of Treblethink. It could even be alarming if it weren’t so obviously risible.

    The alignment of forces in the Syrian conflict confirms exactly what you find risible. Also , as someone pointed out earlier, it is a mater of historical record that neoconservatism had its origins as a Jewish intellectual movement . By now, however, the neocons have swallowed up the whole of “movement conservatism” and about 95% of the Republican Party-so the term “neoconservative” has been rendered redundant.

  • brainbiter

    Robinson is a liar and the EDL a shill organization. It’s true. I’m only sorry it took a smug, self-satisfied scotchman to point it out. Do you really think the elite wouldn’t plan for a rise in English nationalism when the way is being prepared to break up the country? I suggest the less gullible take a closer look at UKIP while they’re at it, and even the EDP. Scottish and welsh varieties of localism are not nationalist at all in any legitimate sense of course, but are creatures of Brussels, doing what they’ve always done [I can’t wait to see how Europeans react to ‘research’ drawing attention to scotland’s generous and disproportionate contribution to western civilization, or how thanks for this selflessness might be expressed, but it will come, it will come….]. These are ‘nationalists’, unlike the genuine English variety, which wants no truck with trans-national bureaucracy or world government, with eager snouts in the Euro subsidy trough even as they pose as advocates of an ‘independence’ they don’t even explain to their constituents, one as transparent, as utterly fraudulent, as ‘their’ English-devised clan histories and kilts.

  • global city

    Who let the loons into the computer room with the internet access? WTF?

  • Return of the King

    I hope more traditional nationalist elements take control of the EDL (ie – the Infidels faction).

    Stephen seems to have been a chancer, in the right place at the right time, who allied to powerful Zionist/neocon interests from the United States (Pam Gellar, Frank Gaffney, Robert Spencer, etc) who then manipulated genuine concerns of working-class British people whose neighbourhoods are being ethnically cleansed by the ruling elites, for their own Israel-first agenda.

    I’d love to see more BNP type nationalists take over from Lennon. Don’t care if the rank and file are “thugs” or whatever poncy journalists would like to call them, they are salt of the earth fighting for their people; good on them.

  • Wykeham


    Stick to your attacks on Salmond. You do not understand the politics of race and ethnicity with which we English must contend.

  • Dalek_1963

    Tommy Robinson’s actions only prove whats been suspected all along – that the EDL is a false flag operation designed to tap English nationalist sentiment and steer it off into a dead end. Robinson’s action can be seen as a form of controlled demolition of the EDL.

    He is a multi-cultist who only has a problem with muslim extremism? Mass immigration of the type which will destroy the UK is no problem at all apparently. What a crock. So we are being asked to believe this guy is some sort of theological reformer, on a mission to steer Islam in a milder direction? Again, what a crock.

    The real issue is mass immigration, aggressive muslims are just a more unpleasant face on that, they arent the real story but the EDL was mobilised on that very premise. People who might have been working for or even voting for a nationalist platform were sidetracked into Robinson’s multi-cult theological experiment.

    From day one in the English Defence League, we’ve wanted to embrace everyone: all colours and all creeds. – from here:

    There you have it. Robinson is another repellent nation destroyer just as if he were in Lib/Lab/Con or even the UAF! Apart from an irrelevant niggle about radical Islam that is. Apparently He would have no complaints about 80 million Chinese or Africans or whatever pitching up here tomorrow morning as long as they were not radical muslims.

    The fact he only has an issue with radical Islam and not immigration per se betrays who his true masters are. No further explanation needed.

    The other message of his resignation statements is to reinforce the usual one of the powers that be: resistance to nation destroying immigration is ‘extremism’ – rather than a normal reaction.

  • Dalek_1963

    “If I have this correct – which may not be the case! – Jews, Wahhabists and Neocons are in fact allies. ”

    Well that statement says a lot more about your powers of imagination and observation Alex than it does about any political reality.

    You must be about the only person left on planet earth unaware that neo-cons are a jewish creation. Please dont bother to parade a list a gentile neo-con patsies/useful idiots (some of them even post here!) we know they arent running the show.

    As for the wahhabists – that seems more of a stretch but a quick reference to boring old reality gives the game away there too. It should be noted (though somehow you havent) that Israel never conflicts with the wahhabist regimes. Wahhibist backed groups fight against the west, against the secular/Arab nationalist regimes but never against Israel. Clearly at some level it suits Israel (jews) and wahhabists to work together.

  • Bo

    “Why, it’s almost as if MI5 were running the show themselves in an effort to discredit the whole movement.”

    Ever heard that recording of an American “extremist” radio host being dragged off air by the police while screaming that he was in fact an FBI agent?

  • Raw England

    You keep writing on subjects and issues to which you are woefully uninformed upon. You seem to be absolutely unaware of just how serious things are.

    You’re just another anti-England Scot.

    • Jambo25

      Right on brother. Mr Massie is a bred in the bone Unionist as he is anti-English. Dear Lord, some of you people are completely paranoid.

  • Raw England

    Alex, you are intensely out-of-touch with the modern situation. Not only are you seemingly rather senile and past it, you’re also a Scot who knows nothing of the English people.

    • Jambo25

      Since Alex is 39 I think the “rather senile” bit is rather premature. His father, Alan, is , I think, 75 but still as sharp as a tack as well.

  • Icebow

    Was just listening to the suspect Ritula Shah (or it sounded like her) imperiously interviewing Tommy Robinson on R4 with constant interruptions (‘I’m asking the questions’), followed by a deferential interview with the disgustingly stupid Matthew Goodwin, wherein he was allowed spout his nonsense almost without pause. The BBC needs savaging, very radically.

  • terence patrick hewett

    Politicians have wilfully destroyed England’s social stability and are well on the way to creating the Balkans or Northern Ireland. When it hits the fan as it surely will, I hope that the people responsible will be the first to get it.

  • The_greyhound

    “for pure, unadulterated, fascist moonbattery you have to tip your hat to”

    The Guardian.

    The fascist threat to my liberty comes from the dogmatic liberals (in which I must include the idiot Cameron) and the left. It’s these sick creeps that are intent on outlawing free speech and ending the free press. The EDL are merely guilty of mentioning what a calamitous mistake moslem immigration has been. A bald fact.

  • allymax bruce

    You’re well, out of your league here, Massie; what would you know about words like Zionist, & NeoCon? But you’d know all about being a Westminster ‘political troike’ Stooge!
    Yes, you’re scaremongering for your Westminster political troike. You’re using Psychological Warfare techniques on us, the citizens of UK, hoping to scare us, and keep us mushrooms in the dark, as to who, really are the Zionists. Westminster!
    Why do you attempt to tell us we must fear the all others but LibLabCon Westminster political troike? Is that what your orders are from your Zionist MSM pact with the Westminster LibLabCon political troike!
    You know absolutely nothing about Geo-Religico-Politics, Massie. This level of politics is well above your megre journo talents.

  • blindsticks

    There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.

    There is not one of you who dare to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.

    The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon,and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press?

    We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”

    – John Swinton (1830-1901), former Chief of Staff
    at the New York Times to a journalists’ gathering NYC, 12 April 1893

    • Tony_E

      No, all press has its benefactors, some more odious than others. But none of them have the power to make law, decide justice or tax the population.

      While I hold no torch for Murdoch, the Barkley Brothers, GMG or others – the fact that they are indipendent of the political process is still better than allowing them to be absorbed into it.

      The British press is pretty poor at times. But people still buy the papers. Why? Because there is a demand for the rubbish that they print. The politicians thnk they can civilise British debate and protect themselves from scrutiny in one go by stepping in as arbiter of right and wrong and slapping doen the ‘gutter press’ – but the public demand this kind of news provision and they will simply get it online from sources that host themselves abroad to sidestep any British control.

      There is nothing that the Politicos can do about it.

  • Martin Jennerson

    Oh please, I listened to Any Answers a week ago, and Labour’s Lord Falconer suggested that we need to entirely rethink the way we produce energy for our homes in Britain, because to do so will decrease sea levels in Bangladesh.

    He’s that much of a nut, he actually thinks the two things (energy creation in the UK and Bangladeshi sea-level) are inextricably linked, to the extent that we can actually control sea levels on the other side of the world with a few more turbines – another 100 windmills = -1 meter of Bangladeshi sea level, or something… the only thing affecting it our agency, as westerners, human beings. It was so stupid and loopy, such emotionally-driven nonsense, the BNP’s rantings aren’t even a scratch on it. But guess what, Lord Falconer and his pals are/used to be in power, they’re the establishment, and you’re such a narrow-minded bore you can’t see how much mad drivel they talk and instead focus on the peripherals.

  • TRAV1S

    You can be smug. However the Woolwich Butcher, Mujaheed Abu Hamaza was a supporter and a spokesman for Unite Against Fascism. Yet this fact has been suppressed in the msm. In an speech at an UAF rally he described non Muslims as kuffars and that that we were worse than cattle. Virtually the same language as used by Mehdi Hasan.

    Yet the msm have never bothered to look into the UAF’s extremist links, there has been complete silence.

    • blindsticks

      Andrew Gilligan, nemesis of Lutfer Rahman and his Islamic kingdom in Tower Hamlets has.

      Put it in the search engine.

      Anti-fascists fuel the fire of hate – Telegraph › Journalists › Andrew Gilligan‎

      15 Jun 2013 – Police detain a UAF protester outside the Houses of Parliament last weekend. Photo: CARL COURT/AFP. Andrew Gilligan. By Andrew Gilligan.
      More results for andrew gilligan uaf pedals hate

    • rogermurrayclark

      It’s the usual snide, smug crap – latest in an apparently endless series; they all adopt the same patronising sneering tone; employing a standardised NUJ-HNH format that just gets tweaked a bit each time

      It’s simply a diversionary tactic, a smokescreen to conceal the hellish reality that has been conjured

      “Threats to the UK are growing more diverse and diffuse, he said, but warned: “It remains the case that there are several thousand Islamist extremists here who see the British public as a legitimate target.”

    • The voice

      The EDF have a lot of tacit support as they seem to be the only ones visually opposing the creeping and rampant islamification of the UK. How the BBC and Guardian wail and decry that anyone would stand up to their agenda and thinking and unleash their own opposition to such groups and silence any public debate on unwanted or needed immigration.

  • David Lindsay

    There is still a Cabinet Minister the Vice-President of whose successful Leadership Campaign, a mere 12 years ago, had a BNP phone in his house, the number of which was that Campaign’s official media contact number. He answered it with the words “British National Party”, and he used it to explain to journalists that the Conservatives and the BNP were “identical”.

    • Tony_E

      Again, you make this allegation. Provide evidence or remove it.

      • David Lindsay

        I did in detail the last time. This is not news. It is a dozen years old.

        • Wessex Man

          liar liar pants on fire!

  • Shoe On Head

    low rent thug decides to re-group his sh*t.

    nothing to see here.

    (Please note – if you insist on seeing something i will place an un-needed comma right here –> , )

    (shoe on head)

    • blindsticks

      low rent thug decides to re-group his sh*t.
      That’s exactly the sort of judgement I was expecting from those on the liberal left and so called moderate Muslim centre.
      Basically, he’s been bought off.

    • The_greyhound

      “low rent thug decides to re-group his sh*t.”

      odd way to describe Miliband, but I know what you mean.

  • Russell

    And be even more concerned about extreme left groups and those like the UAF who pose a much larger threat and are full of violent thugs intent on destroying all that is good in this country.

  • Makroon

    What does “far right” mean to Mr Massie ?
    Is Farage “far right”, “moderate far right” or “chummy far right” ?
    Opportunist rabble-rouser might be a better description for Robinson.

    • blindsticks

      Many Muslim sects are far right, but it’ll be a cold day in the proverbial before you hear the likes of Alex or the MSM address them as casually as they do the white extremist groups.That’s because’ far right ‘has become so synonymous with racism and groups like the BNP that people cant see past it to include groups with brown or black skin. Though it’s been debated often enough just how far right the BNP really are.

      The Left-wing BNP could cost Labour seats at the general election .. › News › Politics › Norman Tebbit‎

      14 Jan 2010 – Norman Tebbit … I care about the poor not just because I was born one of them, but … So far as immigration is concerned, it has been the non-party …. systems fail at the right time, you need to have produced convincinfg fake …

  • Daniel Maris

    One thing we don’t take seriously is someone sitting up in the borders in bucolic splendour telling us mass immigration and huge population growth are good for us.

    I presume you are not going to say that there is no MI5 involvement in the EDL ? Assuming you’re not then neither you nor I know what it amounted to. Likewise with the very oddly named Quilliam (named after William Henry Quilliam, who changed his name to Abdullah Quilliam and later Henri Marcel Leon or Haroun Mustapha Leon, and was a 19th-century convert from Christianity to Islam, noted for founding England’s first mosque and Islamic centre). Where have they sprung from and what are they about? Although they claim funding transparency through their annual report their annual report isn’t on their website! What is Quilliam’s game? They say they don’t want Sharia to be made state law…well obviously if you have enough Quilliam converts in the country you don’t need state law, it just is the law of the Umma.

    Nowhere do they condemn Sharia law which sanctions polygamy, child marriage, severe punishment for apostasy and homosexuality, and second class status for non-Muslims.

    • chan chan

      Indeed – sharia doesn’t need to be on the statute books, just happening in reality. Quilliam are a dubious organisation. Has Robinson been duped?

      • Daniel Maris

        I’d like to hear an in-depth interview with Robinson.

        He seemed a pretty intelligent guy. I was never happy with the “MO” of the EDL but I am surprised by this development.

        How can he make peace with a pro-Sharia organisation? – seems a bit odd.

        • Crumbs

          Israel continually makes the same mistake with the Palestinians, accepting exploding olive branches.

          • allymax bruce

            The Zionist government of Is-ra-el, don’t represent the mass Jews & Palestinians living in Is-ra-el. The government is made up of two minority Zionist Political Parties, and have different political beliefs to the people. Thus, most people in Is-ra-el, are not Zionists, while the Zionist government push Zionist ideals & Principles.
            Look what the Zionists have done to USA; the extreme wing of the Republican Party, (functionally the Industrial Military Complex), have forced a shutdown of USA government institutions, and it’s only the US people that are suffering. The Republicans don’t care if the USA goes into Default, because Default would only further the Zionist cause of civil war, and the ‘shadow military complex’ doing what it wants; attacking anyone it wants. The people of the USA are being conned, to think the Republican Party represent them; No, the Republican Party represent Zionist interests, and mainly in their Homeland, not USA!

            • gerontius


            • Kennybhoy

              Oh f*ck off ya bam! Deranged antisemitic loon!

              • Guest

                Are you having Tay-Sachs?

        • djrh

          I am a bit confused about why Tommy Robinson is now being photographed with his arm around a laughing moslem and allying himself with this Quilliam foundation. I can’t help wondering if he’s actually infiltrating this group to find out if they are different to the image they portray. I find it hard to believe he’s changed for real.

    • rogermurrayclark

      I couldn’t find their Annual Report, what’s on their website, financial info or otherwise, is extremely sparse.

      Their funding appears to come from UK government, so they appear to be a multi-culti stooge keep the lid on job fronted by third world charlatans.

      The pressure on Robinson was immense, it took a very special person to take that for 4 years, most people couldn’t for half a day.

      But without his street movement he is nothing, and he probably now faces a choice of disappearing from public view – with plenty of enemies – or abasement.

      It is a sad situation

      • Daniel Maris

        He’s now been condemned by Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, which is a bit like being condemned by Eisenhower and Montgomery both if you were on the allied side in WW2.

        • rogermurrayclark

          They haven’t condemned him

          “It has become painfully obvious that the enemies of freedom have broken Tommy Robinson. The British authorities’ harassment, the systematic persecution, the jailings, the solitary confinement, the threatening of his life, the threats to his family, his having to move several times, his children having to change schools, the constant false charges — he finally cracked. They broke him. He made a deal with the devil. He didn’t want to go back to jail, and this looks like his bid to stay out.”

          Like I said

          • Daniel Maris

            They’ve condemned him now – in clear terms.

    • Jambo25

      Now Daniel, don’t be nasty. Down in Dumfries there is an excellent Turkish barber and a couple of OK Italian restaurants. In Thornhill we have a couple of excellent Polish dentists. Then there’s all those English people who’ve moved into the area. We know all about mass immigration in the Borders.

      • Daniel Maris

        I think you made my point for me…presumably intentionally. 🙂

        • Jambo25

          Yes, it was intentional. I fully agree that those who comment on the effects of immigration should know what real mass immigration looks and feels like. Mr Massie might get some inkling in Edinburgh though even Edinburgh comes nowhere near my wife’s home town of Leicester in it’s impact. Strangely enough, one part of my previous posting was true. We do have an enormous number of English people (Comparatively speaking) moving into good old Dumfries and Galloway. I think a lot are ex-military and diplomatic service types and are moving to a place which reminds them of the UK they knew 40 or 50 years ago. More or less the same reason I stay much of the time in Dumfriesshire. I think you get the same phenomena in parts of Shropshire like the Strettons.

  • zanzamander

    I think in the end TR must have realised that he was fighting for a lost cause and gave up. He was up against the entire British media, political class, academia, basically the entire British establishment, not to mention powerful and influential foreign powers.

    Smart fellow.

    • Crumbs

      Robinson has unleashed the righteous anger of the English working class, but he’s no doubt right in his judgement that he can’t channel this anger into the subtle idea of confronting an ideology while trying to co-exist with its proponents. He has always said that he wanted moderate Muslims to stand alongside the EDL in fighting Islamism. I believe he’s sincere and has always sought to avert the Northern Irish type scenario that is only a few years away if the establishment continues to appease and facilitate the extremists in the Muslim camp. If he had only succeeded in bringing the moderate Muslims over to his side, rather than vice versa, this rapprochement would have been historic. But I share the fear that he has sold his leadership of the EDL for a meaningless press statement from a creeping sharia group (they’ve called on Muslim extremists to leave their movements too, rofl.) If Robinson and Carroll can’t control what they’ve created, what chance does a think tank have of controlling a death cult that has been on the rampage since the Dark Ages?

      • crosscop

        The Koran forbids Muslims from being friends with or forming alliances with non-Muslims against other Muslims. TR is being used by Quilliam.

        • allymax bruce

          Forget religion; the politics of today, this/our 21st century, is all about Marxism.
          ‘They’ will want you/us to think it’s politics, but, it’s not.
          Trust me, I’m always right.

        • Crumbs

          Yes, he’s being used, and taken down. The thinking on counter-Jihad sites is that the constant arrests have worn him out, and that he has been threatened (not just the death threats from Muslims, he’s stood that for four years) but threats from the state. It’s also been pointed out that his prison spell for entering the USA illegally (to attend a counter-Jihad event) meant that he lost control of the EDL. He had previously managed fairly successfully to keep right-wing extremists out (at least some of them probably being paid infiltrators), but he may have been shown that he no longer can, and that it’s all looking very ugly. He’s been made to serve the narrative that “there are extremists on both sides”. This closing down of legitimate dissent against the multicultural agenda can only make the coming street conflicts between Muslims and everybody else so much worse.

  • zanzamander

    whenever the far-right does enjoy some success that success quickly
    evaporates. The public, when it has a chance to see these people for
    what they really are, tends to disapprove of the cut of their respective

    Not so in cases of extremists who happen to be the darlings of the Left, people like Lutfur Rahman or Mehdi Hasan who both enjoy a rather warm place in the hearts of British public and media.

    So your theory depends on the religious affiliations of the extremists, I think.

    • HookesLaw

      Mehdi Hasan is an ‘extremist’? He may be many things, including a tosspot, but I can think of more extreme lefties than him.
      Lutfur Rahman has been investigated by Ch4. hardly a warm relationship.

      • David Lindsay

        Really extreme Leftists cannot stand him. He is just Old Labour Right. Even complete with the religious opposition to abortion, drinking and gambling. A different religion, one combining the Catholic (and the Presbyterian John Smith’s) opposition to abortion with the Methodist opposition to drinking and gambling. But even so. Economically, like Ed Miliband, Old Labour Right.

      • Daniel Maris

        I don’t know any real lefties who refer to their fellow human beings as “ignorant cattle”. Perhaps you think that’s acceptable discourse in politics but then you have very, very low standards don’t you?

  • HookesLaw

    As you say – self parody. Hilarious if it was not so sick

    • Wessex Man

      Well you would know all about that!

      • HookesLaw

        Thats no argument. And the answer of course is no I wouldn’t.

        • Daniel Maris

          Why would anyone follow a You Tube link given by Hooky?

        • Wessex Man

          course you would, you are always twisting what ever people post on here to suit you own biased prejudiced tory spin, you useful idiot.