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The Melanie Phillips Mail mystery

17 September 2013

2:26 PM

17 September 2013

2:26 PM

Why was Melanie Phillips ousted as the Monday columnist for the Daily Mail? The Guardian suggests that she was frustrated by the ban on writing about Israel, which is not a restriction placed exclusively on Mel. Meanwhile, the peaceniks over at the Indy claim that Mel’s incendiary appearance on Question Time in June made Paul Dacre hit the red button. The clip above will refresh your memory.

The Indy has an axe to grind (having lost Dominic Lawson, who is tipped to replace Mel); but I hear that it’s on the money. A source at the Mail tells me: ‘She played up to every stereotype of the paper, and it got too over the top’. Apparently, after the infamous Question Time, ‘the managing editor took her aside and hauled her over the coals.’

Yesterday, the passing of Mel. Today, a leader defending the BBC. Is there something in the water in Kensington?


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  • kobi

    shes right!!!!!!!!

  • rtj1211

    The DM defending the BBC??

    Most likely scenario is that BBC has details of phone hacking et al carried out by Dacre et al.

    They’re leveraging that to bribe Dacre into submission.

    Far simpler for Rothermere to put Dacre in stocks.

    Only difficulty would be if he authorised it personally.

    Then he’d need to grovel before Leveson, hang his head in shame and sell the DM to someone with some principles.

    Ah: how could you run the DM with principles??

    Interesting challenge……

  • Gareth Austin

    We’ll said Callan

  • george

    Anti-semitism, as seen at times below and as would not be out of place in a meeting of the D. A. P. in Munich, is not itself a mental illness, but is surely indicative of a very nasty turn of mind — and can lead to nowhere good, either for the deluded hater or for the irrationally hated.

  • george

    Most people are poor political reasoners, have a defective political education, and mean well by their own lights but often favour policies that bring about the opposite of the desired result. On top of that (to coin a phrase, not), they can’t handle too much reality (unless it’s in a very nice snap-front dress, of course). Melanie is a courageous realist, which automatically thereby alienates her from 100% of Leftists and 95% of Wets, aka Pollyannas who know that the Left is wrong but have no idea what to do about it and no resolve to try.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    “Unverified videos allegedly show Syria rebels using chemical weapons” YouTube.
    Oh dear, cat, pigeons.

  • Dave Hill

    It’s a puzzler, all right – as the Telegraph’s website has demonstrated, flat-out mental columnists bring in the hits as has been demonstrated by that crybaby closet case Delingpole and that Arslikhan Blairite Hodges. Surely the Mail hasn’t lost its nerve??

  • Toby Esterházy

    Islam and Judaism are different sides of the same coin. Both are enemies of Western civilisation.

  • Roy

    Melanie over the years, has said what needed to be said. She has been like a clarion call to wake up from the deep slumber many in the UK seemed to have been lulled into by the sweet lullabies sung by the BBC and other similar tunes to the nation. When the country’s media have been so much influenced by the liberal left, there is little left to bring truth and honesty to the ears of the people. Hard as it might be to hear what is not wanted to hear, and listen to a counter view to the machine promulgated by the public funded organ of propaganda, it is essential reading.

  • laurie barnett

    Maybe bonkers but possibly right. Always good copy, esp on tv.

  • John Smith

    A combination of an unfettered Iran with the removal of our nuclear deterrent will be a toxic legacy for our successors

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    As America is clearly Israel`s xitch, and clearly Britain is America`s xitch, doesn`t that make Britain Israel`s xitch.
    xitch. five letters, thymes with witch

  • Fivish

    Melanie has always told the truth about Israel. She is in a minority of journalists who have a moral compass. Islamofascism is on the move across the middle east and heading this way. It cannot be negotiated with and appeasement will embolden it.

    • Icebow

      I think it’s already here.
      I hope that the Mail suffers the decline in circulation it deserves. If it isn’t a platform for journalists like Phillips, its continued existence is morally pointless.

  • http://twitter.com/MisGrace Julieann Carter

    So! A sea of mediocrity in government, and increasingly now, a sea of mediocrity in MSM journalism.
    It’s by design – the necessary criteria in preparation for a one-party state. No-one who might express independent opinions/personal convictions allowed in influential positions.
    By order of the EU!

  • theninetynine

    She is right sort of, Iran will cause some sort of global crisis, but not its nothing to do with religion as she hysterically points out, no the crisis will be financial, Iran could be the country which causes the US Dollar to collapse.

  • DrCoxon

    ‘Today, a leader defending the BBC. ‘
    That is misleading.
    The leader is explicitly concerned with the nature of future control of the BBC.
    The leader in fact contains serious criticism of the BBC.

  • ArchiePonsonby

    God old Melanie! Controversial, even in her absence!

  • The Blue Baron

    “There’s been a new election in Iran…”

    (Cue applause from the lemmings)

  • allymax bruce

    I seen Melanie Philips on that Question Time show, and as far as I’m concerned she did nothing wrong. All she did was to confirm that she was a Jew; she even said it, “I’m a Jew”. Nothing wrong with that; in-fact, I think Mel’ should try and speak publicly about the tensions & constraints, existing between Jews, and Zionists; yes, there is a difference. It’s political in its nature, but it’s causing a lot of trouble; people want to talk about the horrid Zionist corporations, but all the discussions are being conflated as anti-semetism, when it’s not. And it’s the Zionist corporations that are forcing this conflation purposely; to hide their evil Zionist crimes! I’ve got nothing against the Jewish people, but they must stand up and speak against, and disallow the contradiction they are purporting to disenfranchise us, the people, from discussing these issues, and from not being allowed to use words like Is’ra-el, jews, etc; it’s beyond ridiculous now. The British Jewish community must stop this evil conflation & free speech abuse that exists between the Jewish community, evil Zionist corporations, and is the people.

    • Augustus

      Although Damascus is only about 125 miles away from Jerusalem the war in Syria could be a world away. But in the city of Safed in northern Israel, better known as one of the four Holy cities of Judaism, the front line in Syria is very close. In the the Rebecca Sieff hospital, also known as the Ziv Medical Centre, without any great fanfare or publicity, a steadily growing stream of wounded Syrian victims who have somehow managed to cross the border with Israel are being admitted. They have harrowing stories to tell and horrific injuries. Suffering from shrapnel and gunshot wounds, burns and crush wounds. Most of them are undernourished, exhausted and traumatized. Many have lost family members, but they are hugely relieved to be there. If they had remained in Syria they would most probably have died from their injuries, or have remained permanently crippled and unable to work. But in the Ziv hospital they get the best medical care, the same the Israelis get from surgeons and doctors who are literally the best in the field of such injuries sustained in an armed conflict.

  • Andy M

    The Daily Mail is trying its best to get rid of the reputation of being a Tory rag, but what it doesn’t realise is that its key asset, Melanie Phillips, was only speaking on behalf of many of us who don’t care about the reputation it has been labelled with by Left Whingers and would rather it continued to publish columns with views like Melanie’s than fluff that pleases a more Leftist audience. After all, the Left will continue to hate the Mail whatever it publishes – just as whatever the Conservative party does the Left will hate them. It’s a hobby for them, politics and right and wrong have nothing to do with it.

    • Toby Esterházy

      I disagree. She is a loon to make the True Right look bad and stupid. Support for Israel is the cornerstone of Neoconservatism, which is an unholy and unstable mixture of left-wing Jewish social politics, laissez-faire and hawkish foreign policies. Neoconservatism is never part of the true Right.

      • global city

        The ‘true right’ support Israel being wiped off the map and the jews pushed into the sea… is that what you mean?

        • Toby Esterházy

          The Jews would just have to migrate, like the Lebanese, Syrian and other Levantine Christians and anyone else. Why should the Goyim defend the Jews of Israel? The British are not the Germans, and owe the Jews nothing.

          The Nazis were the National Socialists, and they were never of the Right.

          • global city

            It is an obligation to stand by democratic nations and people who do not wish to destroy or be destroyed themselves.

            You are right about the Nazis though.

            • Toby Esterházy

              Only according to the New York Jewish school of Neoconservatism.

              • global city

                Yeah, I know, the ‘Jew’ does not even have their own army. it is terrible how they use us like that.

                I mean, I remember all those lefties used to complain about the US defending Western Europe too…. contradictory bastards!

                Just what are you on about? (rhetorical question, you don’t have to answer, I know exactly where you are coming from…. and it’s a pretty dark place)

                • Toby Esterházy

                  Except for the fact the Nazis (National Socialists) and their sympathisers were themselves Lefties.

                  Zionism is yet another Left-wing disease, and the Jewish Communists even have the Kibbutzim to prove it!

      • Andy M

        The true right are bad and stupid if they don’t accept the very obvious points that Melanie makes in this video. How can you call someone paranoid for taking a fanatical religious regime that is attempting to develop nuclear weaponry to wipe another country off the map seriously? If the “true Right” are on the side of Iran in this, then I’ll gladly be a Neocon instead.

        • Henry B

          “How can you call someone paranoid for taking a fanatical religious regime that is attempting to develop nuclear weaponry to wipe another country off the map seriously?”

          Hmm…How can anyone take you and your kind ‘seriously’?

          A ”fanatical religious regime” already has nuclear, chemical and biological weapons; and according to Seymour Hirsch (a Jew) it’s called Israel and for 40 years it’s been threatening to wipe every Western capital off the map!

          Just sayin……

          • wince

            And you think a state like Iran having ICBMs would be just fine and dandy then? In the interests of what exactly? I’ll let you get back to your zio-spy wildlife interrogation now.

            • Henry B

              Did I make you ‘wince’, wince?

              Never mind Iran. Address the issue of Israel having spent 40yrs threatening to use nuclear weapons (from suitcase devices to ICBMs) to turn the capital cities of Europe to glass.

        • Toby Esterházy

          If the Jews, the Rothschilds of this World want War so badly, why don’t THEY send in their own boys, instead of expecting—without even so much as a by your leave—the children of the Goyim to do the dirty work for them? I mean, it is only going to be the Goyim who are going to get their limbs blown off from car bombs in the Gulf and in Beirut, so it doesn’t really matter, does it?

    • Toby Esterházy

      I disagree. She is a loon to make the True Right look bad and stupid. Support for Israel is the cornerstone of Neoconservatism, which is an unholy and unstable mixture of left-wing Jewish social politics, laissez-faire and a hawkish foreign policy. Neoconservatism is a globalist conspiracy, and is never part of the true Right.

      The Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday are no longer true Tory rags, any more than the Star or the Daily Diana Express. No true Tory rag would run weekly stories from the Third Reich, publish an Irish supplement, run articles directly attacking the Queen or advocate a plastic bag tax.

  • Mike

    Having just watched this clip for the first time, it brings to mind the stitch up that QT enacted on Nick Griffin where the audience and panel were cherry picked to bait him. Its blatantly obvious that the same happened hear judging from the reaction of some in the QT audience to uncontentious comments about Iran by Mel Phillips.

    There hasn’t been a single subject that she has commented on previously whether social or political where there was elements of truth running through her comments and in most cases she was right on the button.

    Iran is the real major threat sitting back in the shadows whilst the rest of Islam commits genocide and the west should prepare defensively in case Iran gets belligerent against us. For the present however we should let the different factions of Islam kill themselves reducing a future threat from that area towards the west.

    Islam tried it on before centuries ago and failed after being pushed back across the Mediterranean and we need to be vigilant for when they have a second try at taking over the world.

    • Shazza

      They are not only trying now for a second time (did they ever cease?) but are winning.

      • Dhimmitude Ishere

        The significant factor now in their favour being the fifth column of belligerent Muslims now so strongly entrenched and growing in the UK and other western European countries. Beards and burqas are the future unless a stand is taken and anyone who has the guts to suggest this is shouted down by a rabble of gays, feminists, left wingers and hand-wringing liberals who will be the first against the wall when the Islamists take over.

        I would say it’s a bit like turkeys voting for Christmas except that
        Christmas is also likely to be for the chop (not a pork one of
        course.)

        • Shazza

          Spot on.

  • FrankS

    Played the QT clip, couldn’t find anything to object to in what Melanie P said. I mean, even if you don’t agree with her, she’s only presenting a different point of view. Seems the beeb has a reserve of useful idiots to turn any discussion into a jeering hatefest.

    • Augustus

      Not just ‘useful idiots’, downright dhimmis, thinking they will be accorded a protected status when Muslims have gathered sufficient force to overwhelm their enemies and are able to achieve their strategic goal; that ‘the Abode of the Infidel’ is subordinated to ‘the Abode of Islam’.

    • ArchiePonsonby

      The laughable thing is that the Beeb denies that the QT audience is selected!

      • harmonicaman

        Having experienced the dishing out of QT tickets In Middlesbrough by the local Labour organisers and watching the show [I couldn’t get a ticket] and recognising audience members, the vast majority as local Labour activists and others of the same ilk, the claim that the QT audience is not selected is lying by ommission, when the local labour group vets the audience, it may not be the BBC that cherry picks the audience, but the audience is not a random choosing. Plausible deniability for the BBC, provided you were not there to see.

        • george

          Wow, thanks for the eye-witnessing.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    I wrote to Melanie Phillips once, pointing out that it was “The Keystone Kops” rather “Keystone Cops”. But instead of responding with a, “Thank you for pointing that out”, she came back at me with, “I can`t go wasting my precious time on such trivial details”. Which rather underscores her, “I’m never wrong” reputation.

    • FrankS

      What was your point, Jack?

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Obvious isn`t it? MP is a head-banger who lacks the slightest vestige of self-doubt.

        • FrankS

          That sounds like you, Black Jack!

      • Toby Esterházy

        None; and the man lives in Japan, for God’s sake!

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          He was asking the engine driver, not the oil rag.

          • Toby Esterházy

            A raving Japanese lunatic schizophrenic passing off as a personal acquaintance of Melanie Phillips is certainly a good one! How did you manage to keep your computing privileges in your psychiatric asylum?

            • Jackthesmilingblack

              See how he twists the truth? I wrote to MP once and to Toby that`s claiming a personal acquaintance.

              • Toby Esterházy

                She might be herself a loon, but I would very much doubt that even her would have the time for true loons like you.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Yes, I do live in Japan. That`s the first thing about me Toby`s (it that his latest username?) got right for literally years.
          Jack, Japan Alps

    • Andy M

      She didn’t actually say she wasn’t wrong though, did she, Jack? She simply replied with disinterest, because, let’s face it, you were being pedantic.

      • Toby Esterházy

        A pedant? An autistic schizophrenic, more like!

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          UK trash culture: Near enough is good enough.

          • Toby Esterházy

            Yet you still feel the need to pollute these boards with your dross and tripe.

    • Toby Esterházy

      I am no fan of hers, but I don’t believe that she would even so much as to waste a single minute of her life on a lunatic schizophrenic with advanced autism like you.

    • Augustus

      Both spellings have been used with ‘Keystone Cops’ being the more prevalent, I believe. But isn’t it just how Americans have often spelt things? Remember Orl Korekt = OK.

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Keep in mind the Keystone Kops was a US movie series.

        • Toby Esterházy

          Weird Japanese saddo.

          • george

            Don’t encourage him! What you think is a barb he wears as a poppy — or whatever flower such types think is a laurel.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    I was watching “Argo” on the Movie Channel on Satellite here in Japan a couple of days ago, when I suddenly smelt up and woke the coffee. Winner of 2012 Academy Awards for Best Editing, Best Picture and Best Adapted Screenplay… When I suddenly thought, “How come this recent top movie, so negative towards Iran was on TV, albeit Satellite, so soon after release?”
    Then it hit me, I`d just answered my own question. Obviously to psyche up the mug-punters against Iran. Because up to a couple of weeks earlier, the game plan was to attack Syria and then shift the focus to Iran using that smoke-and-mirrors routine perfected with Afghanistan/Iraq. But fortunately ex-KGB Putin derailed Obama`s cunning plan. Better break out the black hat and start growing a moustache, Barack. Putin putting a spoke in Obama`s wheel just doesn’t come close. Israel getting others to fight its wars…same old, same old. “By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War.” Wake up America/Britisher pals, your enemy is Israel.
    You know, I could grow old and grey waiting for the UK MSM to grow a backbone.

    • mrsjosephinehydehartley

      I don’t think the enemy is Israel ,or any other nation in particular. What’s spoiling this world doesn’t have human face..because all too often nobody can be found responsible. For example look at the financial crisis – why did nobody see it coming?

      • Shazza

        Plenty of us saw it coming. Same with the moslem threat. None so blind, eh?

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        Za one questions za Jews never ask themselves is, “Why are we so unpopular? Why does everybody hate us?” Down the centuries.
        Well, after arriving in country as pitiful refugees and with three generation literally running the place might have something to do with it. That has to cause some resentment.

        • Augustus

          Anti-Semitism in Europe has now become a mental illness that is spreading like a cancer that eventually destroys the body. And anti-Semitism is contagious. After the second world war anti-Jewish hatred in Europe was limited to a few neo-Nazis, now it’s become resistant to rationale and invades mainstream public opinion. Europe is approaching the point, again, when so many rather turned away their eyes, when the continent’s outbreak of hatred of Jews descended into its 20th century abyss. And this is happening while European nations themselves are socially disintegrating, losing their spiritual essence in favour of relativism and multiculturalism. Anti-Semitism has always exploded when people are instilled with illogical fear and inconsistency. Terrible things are going to happen in Europe. A general sense of despair afflicts the continent. The only sounds of pride and pomposity come from the lament of the muezzin, the rest of us, live only in cold, nostalgic and cowardly comfort.

  • thelonghaul

    Nowhere can I find an example of an Iranian (Persian) Shea committing a suicide bombing act on any Western country.
    On the other hand, 100% of suicide bomb attacks around the world are committed by Sunnis — Arabs for the most part.

    • Daniel Maris

      There’s a lot of evidence that Lockerbie was an Iranian operation. If you count Argentine as a Western country, the Iranians attacked a Jewish centre there. They bombed huge numbers of our soldiers in Iraq.

      • thelonghaul

        Well well, there you go. Three examples only, though I would not count Iraq, as that was a war-zone and an illegal war at that.

        • DrCoxon

          ‘Nowhere can I find an example …..’
          ‘Three examples only……’ And more.

          Further, your analysis fails to distinguish between governments and individuals. Would you care to comment on the official positions of Saudi Arabia [Sunni] and Iran [Shi’ite]?

          • thelonghaul

            Do you mean the official position of those two States with the West?
            If so, let me remind you of where the bombers of 9/11 came from, not to mention the bombing of the USS Cole; and the civilian bombings in Spain, UK and countless other cities around the world:
            All from Sunni states, and their Saudi sponsors.

            Iran on the other hand, avowed enemy of the West, was never implicated in the Lockerbie bombing as the other bloke asserted, and it’s also difficult to implicate it in any other international outrage.

            Ah, wait a minute….yes, Iran was responsible for kidnapping those 15 British marines in 2007 and releasing them unharmed a week or so later.
            Terrible act of terrorism that was.

      • theninetynine

        What come first Lockerbie or Air Flight 655?, also the latter UK were there illegally like it or not.

  • Bonkim

    My vote is with Melanie Phillips – agree with everything she said at QT except towards the end she failed by calling the public ignorant.

    Regrettably Russia, and Iran are not concerned with the morality of Assad’s regime although I am sure Iran would not go the whole hog if Assad is bombed but work through Hezbollah. Both Russia and Iran are interested in safeguarding their interests – for Iran, the only Alawite (Shia) power they can influence, and for Putin, the only friend and market for Arms he has in the Middle-East.

    • sarah_13

      I think also for Russia their experience of Islamic jihadists very close to home is part of their reasoning, preferring the devil they know and who they think they can control.

  • NinePillocksInARoom

    They are getting a large readership from America and increasingly other countries as well, which they don’t wish to jeopardise. Right-wing OK, but rocking the boat isn’t.

    I also suggested on the Indy comments board that they poach Mel, as she would bring readership and isn’t much madder than Janet Street Preacher anyway. Let’s say that it didn’t make me particularly popular there, but you never know …

  • Shoe On Head

    oh, my aching sides.

    everybody taking their turn driving the outrage bus?

  • Fraziel

    You should read some of the extremist half mad dangerous rubbish written by laurie penny over at the New statesman. Compared to her ” Mad mel” is a sensible moderate. I used to hate Mel Phillips but i now rather like her and her un PC ways.

  • sarah_13

    She really is right a lot of the time, if a little too depressing for my taste and I agree about Iran. Rouhani still presides over a regime that kills children, practices apartheid in the true sense of the word by minorities paying extra taxes like Jews etc, supports terrorism world wide, uses rape against women etc etc and the leadership believes in an ideology that simply is at odds and a threat to the values and life we have enjoyed in this country. On QT Melanie didn’t respond particularly well to the Iran point so the idiot in the audience played the offended card and so she lost the audiences sympathy. But she was right then as she was when the Arab spring was kicking off and she said on QT that it will end badly. I remember the audience rounded on her but of course she was right. Syria, Libya, egypt, Iran …. None of this will end well, it simply can’t, “feeding the tiger we seek to tame….” springs to mind.

    • Bonkim

      Ruhani is the respectable front for the Grant Ayatollah.

      • ArchiePonsonby

        Is he anything like Grant Shapps?

        • Bonkim

          Grant Shapps is a splendid fellow. Ruhani is sombre but one assumes affable.

        • Dave Hill

          Unlike Shapps, Ruhani does not have a criminal record :)

  • blindsticks

    ‘British audience ‘- BBC selected halfwits most of them. I honestly never would have thought I’d see a set up to match that put up against Nick Griffin.
    Another BBC bear pit then.

    • NinePillocksInARoom

      Ah, that type of BBC. I did wonder there for a second.

  • Callan

    Can’t wait to see who replaces Melanie at the Mail. Yasmin Alibi Brown? Alastair Campbell? Lembit Opek? It’s enough to drive you to the Mirror. Well almost. Was she pushed or did she jump. If she was pushed, the editor of the Mail wants his head seeing to. Good luck Melanie.

    • David Lindsay

      John Laughland? Geoffrey Wheatcroft? Mark Almond? Freddy Gray? Stuart Reid?

      The Mail titles have been going paleocon for years.

      • Kennybhoy

        The Mail is not “going paleocon”. The Mail has always been paleocon. I am surprised Miss Phillips lasted so long. The Speccie high heid yins should bring her and Mark Steyn back here.

        • David Lindsay

          No, they should bring in, up or back John Laughland, Geoffrey Wheatcroft, Mark Almond, Freddy Gray and Stuart Reid, among others. Ed West is a very good sign.

          Regular appearances by several existing Mail writers would also be most welcome: Peter McKay, Andrew Alexander, Stephen Glover, Peter Hitchens, Alex Brummer.

          Plus Peter Oborne and Tim Stanley.

          And, from across the Atlantic, those whom Freddy Gray used to edit on PostRight.

          With no intervention in Syria by anyone outside the region, neoconservatism is a busted flush.

          • george

            Neoconservatism was, note the past tense, a state of mind among a handful of identifiable Lefties who in the early 70s and afterwards felt themselves to have been ‘mugged by reality’. It is not and never was a policy; more a stance of the brighter disaffected (i.e. about three people).

            • David Lindsay

              But three people more than would have been ideal.

              And if it was not a policy or a programme, then how come they all agreed about everything?

              • george

                What makes you think they did (agree about everything)?

                I can see why you would think that the brightest-of-the-disaffected-from- socialism’s numbering only three is ‘three more than ideal’: basically it was everyone you’ve got.

                • David Lindsay

                  They had an entire geopolitical programme. It was no secret. And they set about implementing it with ruthless organisation.

                • george

                  If you say so, David. Who am I to contradict a reassuring view of American politics the world?

                • rtj1211

                  You saying that 5 Star Generals are lying when they say that America intended regime change in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Egypt over a 7 year period??

            • rtj1211

              Neoconservatism was America’s answer to an Islamic state. Politics and religion intertwined.

              As we’ve seen in the Middle East, mixing politics and religion is a volatile brew.

              Evidence in America suggests that this is universal, not just limited to Islam.

  • zanzamander

    Guardian?!

    They’re probably popping Champagne bottles (if they could afford it, or maybe a cheap plonk) at the news.

  • zanzamander

    The other reason is that she is a British Jew who stands up for Israel and makes no apologies about it.

    All told, we like our Jews to hate Israel, love Islam/Arabs and those who do not make it obvious that they are Jewish.

    Do some research on the plight of Jews in that paradise of Lefty Progressives that is the city of Malmo in uber progressive Sweden and you can see what is in store for Jews in this country.

    We’re a bunch a haters when it comes to Jews – and that’s a fact.

    Now delete this comment if you wish and keep on pretending everything is fine, it will not change a thing.

    • Shazza

      Very, very true. It never ceases to amaze me how the majority of Jews in this country buy into this Lefty Progressive dogma and bury their heads in the sand at the plight of their fellow Jews not only in Malmo but in France, Netherlands, Belgium as well. The same with the Jews in the USA and Obama. They decry and insult people like Tommy Robinson over their North London dinner tables not realising that it is he and his brethren who would come to their aid when the emerging majority starts to turn the heat up and their fellow Gentile Lefty Progressives will not lift a finger to help them.
      This won’t be the first comment I have had deleted or modified either.

    • Dave Hill

      Why are you expressing your support for an ethnic group who feel little loyalty towards their supposed country (in this case Britain) and who in any case despise anyone who is not a member of the “Chosen People”? Can it be that you yourself are a person of the Jewish persuasion? Or merely a “useful idiot”?

      • Augustus

        “an ethnic group who feel little loyalty towards their supposed country (in this case Britain)”

        Like Benjamin Disraeli perhaps? Someone who “played a central role in the creation of the modern Conservative Party.”

        And if the past doesn’t count, how about when Jewish cemeteries today are routinely desecrated, tombstones daubed with swastikas and pro-Islam slogans? Are these the ‘ethnic groups’, who feel so much loyalty to Britain, you’d rather support?

      • kobi

        feel alittle loyalty?-did jews deard to do half of the islamic dids?

  • Rockin Ron

    Meanwhile, the truly ghastly Sarah Vine has been foisted on the Daily Mail. We could do with Melanie and Dominic but not Sarah.

  • zanzamander

    Why did Melanie Phillips stop writing here? Was she ousted?

    Look, the fact of the matter is that the media, just like the academia, politics, unions, NHS, justice etc. is not interested in the inconvenient truth and are in the pockets of Saudis. Melanie is right on almost everything she says and that’s why she is maligned in the press.

    • Dave Hill

      Because she is a massive quivering bag of psychological problems is why. More mental than Delingpole, more obsessed than Dan Hodges…. I could go on but you are a dribbling cretin and I have wasted too much time already.

      • george

        Not a good salesman for your own views, DH. Still, carry on: it’s no skin off my proverbial. (Pass the popcorn, friends.)

      • rtj1211

        And your views on Polly Toynbee and Laurie Penny??

        Levels of obsession? Psychological problems??

    • george

      Correction: where you have ‘the Saudis’, insert The Left. Now you’ve got it!

  • Augustus

    Plenty to read at: embooks.com/blog

    And former website: melaniephillips.com

    • David Lindsay

      I expect that this is as much about embooks as anything else. Even Melanie Phillips can only find so many hours in the day.

      • Augustus

        And her very latest piece, dated today, just about confirms all she said on that QT programme about Iran. Not only about WMDs, but also how Syria’s bloodshed is shaping into more than a civil war, and is now a proxy war among regional powers jockeying for influence in an effort to shift the balance of power in this dark and backward region. The Iranian and Hezbollah forces are now more heavily committed to aiding the Assad regime than ever, and it’s now pretty clear that a ‘diplomatic solution’ has only favoured the Syrian regime, Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia, who must be very pleased with their achievement against the West. I seem to remember someone in the programme trying to make a point how ‘moderate’ their newly ‘elected’ president Rohani was. As Melanie points out, “he is the same ‘moderate’ Rohani who had helped Ayatollah Khomeini found the Iranian revolutionary terrorist regime in the first place.”

        But the most serious fallout from the Syrian debacle is the Iranian perception of Obama. A threat to intervene militarily if the Iranians sought to achieve their nuclear objectives was always in doubt, but now it has simply become a joke. Melanie Phillips, on the other hand, is very far from being a joke.

        • David Lindsay

          Oh, no, there is nothing funny about any of this. It is many things, But it is not funny.

          Still, she is harmless now.

          • Andy M

            Far from harmless. The Mail’s loss will very soon become another paper’s gain when they hire her.

            • David Lindsay

              The Times, if anyone.

              But what if no one does hire her?

              • george

                She’s a bigger phenomenon now than any given slot at any paper or broadcaster, DL.

              • Andy M

                It would be very unlikely that someone with her CV and ability is not given another job.

                • David Lindsay

                  She has a job, running emBooks. Quite a platform for her views.

                • Andy M

                  You were talking about people hiring her. She had two jobs before. Therefore it’s clear she can be given another job again.

  • S&A

    ‘She played up to every stereotype of the paper, and it got too over the top’.

    Compared to Dacre and many of his employees, Mel is relatively sane.

  • MaxSceptic

    “Mel’s incendiary appearance on Question Time….”

    Where, precisely, was she wrong?

    • Shazza

      Unfortunately it will be too late for all of us when she says ‘I told you so’

    • David Lindsay

      She complained, not without cause, that in 1982 a colleague on The Guardian referred to the war between Israel and Lebanon as “your war”. Yet in 2013, she left us in no doubt what she meant by “Western interests”. She referred to Israel as “us”. Twice.

      It was very sad to watch. How long had she been doing this? And yet she insulted the audience. She was losing it. She might already have lost it. And I had defended her in the past. Not because I agreed with her, but because of the explicit misogyny and implicit anti-Semitism of some of her more abusive critics. I still think that on many domestic policies, hers is an important voice. As she demonstrated against Russell Brand when the topic for discussion was drugs.

      In relation to Syria, she also talked about a current actor called “the Soviet Union”. There could be no denying that there were those for whom this one had the lot: the chance to attack all five of Iran, the beating heart of pan-Arabism, the defenders of Lebanon’s southern frontier, the ancient indigenous Christians of the Levant (and of Iran), and the power against which they themselves harbour an ancestral bitterness which during the Cold War became bound up with Trotskyism and thus made a doubly important contribution to the emergence of neoconservatism.

      Thus did the Ramshackle Nasty Empire, which was always going to collapse under the weight of its own contradictions, and which was never a viable or even an aspirant military threat to the West, become the Evil Empire, like something out of Star Wars.

      Those overlapping hostilities towards Iran, pan-Arabism, the Great Lebanese Experiment, Christianity both in the region and in general, and Russia, are most emphatically not “Western interests”. Those who hold such attitudes are most emphatically not “us”.

      • Noa

        Israel, being on the front line of the global war between Western civilisation and islamic theocracyis “us”, all of us.

        • David Lindsay

          The Israeli Defence Force is now bombing Syria. In support, necessarily, of the Islamist insurrection in that country. An insurrection at once assisted and incited by the invading forces of Wahhabi Saudi Arabia and Wahhabi Qatar. And by the invading forces of Islamist, NATO, putatively EU Turkey.

          One of the most pernicious lies in all of geopolitics is that Israel is any sort of bulwark against Islamism. In point of fact, be born into certain ethnic minorities within Israel’s 1948 borders, and you are automatically subject to Sharia law. Far more people ought to know that than do. Waving his Menorah passport and with the name of that State in the name of his organisation, Raed Salah obviously knows it very well indeed.

          Israel’s Sharia courts are those of the State of Israel. Their rulings in relation to those born under their jurisdiction are the law of the land, and their judges are appointed and paid by that State. By contrast, although Israel treats family law rulings by
          entirely private Christian religious courts as a fait accompli, that is as far as any relationship goes. No wonder that Salah is such a proud and happy Israeli.

          He is not the only one. He was previously the Mayor of Umm al-Fahm, a 100 per cent Arab and 99.7 per cent Muslim city which has been run by his Islamic Movement for many years and where 83 per cent of the population recently voted against transfer to Palestinian jurisdiction. If you want to be the Islamic Movement’s fiefdom, then Israel will let you be it, and will even pay your bills.

          The Knesset includes Ibrahim Sarsur, who campaigns for Jerusalem to be made the capital of the Caliphate. His oath of office, an explicit pledge of allegiance to the State of Israel, clearly does not preclude the furtherance of that objective, which is inconceivable on the part of any member of a British, French, Dutch or other Parliament in Europe even now where
          either Jerusalem, or his or her own capital, was concerned.

          But then, look at the governing coalition in Israel. If any other country had a government members of which wished to denaturalise both the ancient indigenous Christians and the ultra-Orthodox Jews, while others around the Cabinet table held that every ethnic group apart from their own had been created as beasts of burden, then that country would rightly be treated as a pariah.

          The insurrectionists within, and the invaders from without, Syria at present merely aspire to purge the place of, among but first among other people, the ancient indigenous Christians, the founders and stalwarts of Arabism.

          Whereas the State of Israel was founded on the bloody mass
          expulsion of the ancient indigenous Christians, the founders and stalwarts of Arabism in general and of the modern concept of Filastin in particular, as long ago as 1948, after the British had been bombed out by the inventors of modern terrorism, to whose victims no memorial is suffered to exist anywhere on earth.

          And the NATO, putatively EU Republic of Turkey was founded on the bloody mass expulsion of not one but two ancient indigenous Christian peoples, one a section of the people that founded Western civilisation and the other a section of the first entire people ever to embrace the Gospel, as long ago as 1923. The only two political forces of any importance there are that historically dominant secular ultranationalism, and the presently dominant Islamism.

          Very much like the two forces represented in the Government of Israel. Like anyone else, they know their own.

          • http://pateroo.wordpress.com/ pateroo

            Hmmm…a bit of proof required on that 1st paragraph there old David Lindsay and I’m not just talking about bombing missiles en-route to South Lebanon. The rest is the same old blah blah blah conspiracy here there an under my non existent hair

          • kobi

            and the next thing youl say that israel is behind of that war you didnt mentiond that israel thrit syrian injured in israel-so that you can acuse her how convinion(oh sory abaut my english i dont live in britain)only an arab will say wat you just said

        • Dalek_1963

          “Israel, being on the front line of the global war between Western civilisation and islamic theocracy is “us”, all of us.”

          You’re joking right?

          • wince

            You wear your pants on your head in public as a matter of habit or you’re a munchkin from Grauniadland if you telling me you think otherwise.

            • Dalek_1963

              Wince, which are you hasbarat or a useful idiot gentile neo-con patriotard? Just so we know where we stand.

              Btw – banned from the Grauniad multiple times. Last time was for being too supportive of Golden Dawn.

              • xThoughtCriminalx

                This thread is full to the brim with useful idiots (it’s like Breitbart); commenters at The Telegraph are so much more informed.

                I must say though, if this is what passes for a portion of the British Right, then you guys are as fooked as we are in the US.

                • Noa

                  You’d best leave it then.

                • xThoughtCriminalx

                  I’ll comment where I like.

                  You should get informed, before the indigenous British are exterminated.

                • Noa

                  Regrettably you demonstrate no qualifications or abilities for informing or educating anybody, least of all yourself.

                • xThoughtCriminalx

                  Any European that still supports “jews” is woefully uninformed.

                • george

                  ‘As bears excrete in the woods’

                  I don’t think he’s that picturesque, Noa.

                • Noa

                  Reading your post it’s plain to see why the US is ‘fooked’.

                • Dave Hill

                  “Commenters at The Telegraph are so much more informed.”

                  😀

                • george

                  There is no such thing as a British ‘Right’, and hasn’t been since Germany was Weimar.

                • xThoughtCriminalx

                  Really? If I were British and had been alive back in the ’30s (after Weimar was rightfully destroyed), I’d have supported Oswald Mosley. He’d have stopped Britain from beginning WWII and instilled in you all a greater racial consciousness to counter the globalist-cosmopolitan outlook that Anglos unfortunately were afflicted with in the pursuit of Empire (but are slowly losing as your island is destroyed); the Windrush would have never landed on your shores, so who knows where you’d be today…

                  If you didn’t go that route, you all should have at least paid more attention to Enoch Powell a couple of decades later.

                  Present day, I’d agree with you; the BNP under Nick Griffin is ineffective, the Tories are flat-out traitors and should hang, and UKIP will not save you.

                • george

                  You misrepresent my politics completely. Nice try.

                • xThoughtCriminalx

                  Your comment wasn’t very clear. If you’re just another Neoconservative, then you’re not right-wing…at all.

                • george

                  Exactly. I’m not right-wing, genius.

              • kobi

                your place is not in eoropa nor america or ostralia go back to yours 22 cantries i shold say dictatures

          • Noa

            Please explain why you consider the statement to be humourous.

            • Dalek_1963

              For starters, how about: Israel is our ally against nations which are only our enemies because of our alliance with Israel. No alliance with Israel, no problem.

              Please explain what benefit the UK, US or any other western nation derives from our Israeli connection.

              • Noa

                So you are a supporter of theocratic jihadism in its global war against Western democracy and Judeo-Christian culture and civilisation. You would support the destruction of Israel and the extermination of its population.
                Do you consider yourself to be a passive or an active enemy of Israel and the West?

                • Dalek_1963

                  “So you are a supporter of theocratic jihadism in its global war against Western democracy”

                  No, why on earth would I be? When we deport every single muslim from white countries (along with all the other undesirable aliens) how is this jihad going to affect us? Islamic nations couldnt organise the proverbial piss-up in a brewery. They are a paper tiger if ever I saw one.

                  ” Judeo-Christian culture”

                  Whats that? No such entity exists.

                  “You would support the destruction of Israel and the extermination of its population.”

                  Im happy for Israel to exist, as Im sure Israelis and jews are for my nation to exist.

                  “Do you consider yourself to be a passive or an active enemy of Israel and the West?”

                  I support the west – by which I mean white/european nations generally. Whats that got to do with Israel?

                • Noa

                  Thank you. Most revealing.
                  “Judeo-Christian Culture” is of course not an entity, though it certainly exists and is the very essence and core of Western civilisation.

              • kobi

                you ment that if israel wont exist-and on the other side if arabs will not exist…..welllll an iteresting idea so……arabian,,,,,,,

          • Noa

            Being in Riyadh during the prelude to Desert Shield I remember the Scud missile attacks by Saddam on Israel and the allies diplomatic efforts to restrain them from retaliating in order to prevent the embarrasment of Saud Arabia, Kuwait and the other members of the Arab League of finding themselves in military alliance with the hated Jews.
            Do you think the presence of Jewish soldiers would be welcome in any muslim country?

            And were you standing side by side with our troops in the interventionist anti-secular wars and campaigns that a neo conservative, secular West has precipitated since 1991?

            • Dalek_1963

              “to prevent the embarrasment of Saud Arabia, Kuwait and the other members of the Arab League of finding themselves in military alliance with the hated Jews.”

              Perhaps you’ve not noticed that the supposed Israel/Islamic war is not between Israel and the full monty Arab Sunni kingdoms? Its the embarrassment of these Arab Islamic states you’re worried about? You, the global anti-jihadist.

              “Do you think the presence of Jewish soldiers would be welcome in any muslim country?”

              Blimey, you’ve given the game away right there man. Exactly what use is an ally who cant fight with us? Again, you’re an apostle of a western/Israeli anti-jihad but you’re worried that some Islamic states would be upset by IDF troops. Not very consistent is it?

              • Noa

                I’m amused to see your complex evasions of straightforward questions.
                You cannot deny the documented activities of the United States in preventing Israeli retaliation to Iraqi Scud attacks. Trying to pretend that I am in the least concerned about possible Arab embarrasment in finding themselve on the same side as the Israelis is, as you must know, ludicrous.
                And you are inconsistent. You want to fight you say, or perhaps it’s more correct to say that you want someone else to fight for you. But who do you want to fight? Jihadists? Jews? Arabs? Muslims? Christians? Britons? Americans? The FBI? The DOA? Everybody? Your Play Station?
                One thing is certain. Any combatant who has you fighting as his ally will need to devote as much if not more time to watching you as his supposed enemy.

                • Dalek_1963

                  “You cannot deny the documented activities of the United States in preventing Israeli retaliation to Iraqi Scud attacks.”

                  The charitable explanation would be that Israel never needed to worry knowing that there was a huge coalition force on hand ready to fight for Israel. Of course we could be a bit harsher and say its obvious who is pulling the strings in the US.

                  “Trying to pretend that I am in the least concerned about Arab embarrassment in finding themselves on the same side as the Israelis is as you well know, ludicrous.”

                  Yes it is, so why did you bring it up in the first place?

                  “You want to fight you say, or perhaps it’s more correct to say that you want someone else to fight for you.”

                  I never said anything about fighting. Call me an old softie but simple, expedient foreign and domestic policies in a sane environment should obviate many causes of conflict.

                  “One thing is certain. Any combatant who has you fighting as his ally will need to devote as much or more time to watching you as his supposed enemy.”

                  What? Im consistent, you are not. In fact it sounds like you’re projecting.

                • Noa

                  As you have no ideas or insights of any value to offer in debate
                  I consider our exchanges to be concluded.

                • Dalek_1963

                  “I consider our exchanges to be concluded.”

                  You mean your double think has been exposed and you concede. Thank you.

                • Noa

                  Thank you for re-confirming my assessment of you.

                • kobi

                  you pepole will change history only to prove your lies

        • Andy M

          Hear, hear!

        • rtj1211

          No it isn’t.

          The front line is the corrupt relationship between Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait etc etc and the US and UK Governments.

  • Toby

    One thing’s for sure, the Mail on Monday will be a lot poorer for it.

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