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The government’s illegal immigration van scheme is not aimed at illegal immigrants

26 July 2013

26 July 2013

I wonder how many illegal immigrants who’ve seen the government’s imprecations for them to leave the country have done exactly that? Seen the van driving around with its placard and thought: ‘That’s really tugged at my conscience, that has. I shall take myself, and family, to Gatwick Airport immediately. I am sorry to have been such a burden.’ More to the point, I wonder how many are able to understand a single word of it? I suppose a pictogram of a Romanian with an accordion being roughed up by the old bill, followed by a picture of an aeroplane heading for Bucharest, would have offended the sensibilities of the Conservatives’ coalition partners even more. If it does work, however, I suppose we could use it to prevent other offences taking place: ‘Don’t burgle that house – get a job and let Jesus Christ into your life’, that sort of thing.

Truth is, much as Nigel Farage has said, it’s not aimed at the illegal immigrants, but at the angry indigenous folk who fear, rightly, that the government is losing the war against immigration.


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  • terregles2

    This government is such a joke some people who intend to go home anyway are phoning that number to get there fares paid.

  • terregles2

    I have heard of many people phoning that number from the pub and having a laugh. They are giving a non British name and asking if they can have a taxi to go up the road home to wherever they live in the UK.
    This government has truly lost the plot

  • andy_gill

    Actually I rather like it.

    It may not do much good, but it’s a metaphorical finger-up-arse to the bleeding-heart liberals and immigrants coming here to create a Pakistan-from-home in the heart of England.

  • Dacus

    Farage is no better than the rest of the political class, he is part of it. Even if the UK leave EU, the number of non-EU immigrants that will settle every year would remain between 200-250k. Ever five years Britain gets one extra million of people with not a single contribution from Romania and Bulgaria, Poland and the rest of the EU etc. He has no solution for this influx of people; the entire UKIP immigration policy consists of presenting Romanians and Bulgarians as a horde of criminal primitives.

  • Robert Taggart

    OH DEAR, Oh Dear, oh dear…
    Farage – ever the opportunist – the heir to the heir to Bliar ?!
    Can someone send the van up the M1/M6 to Mancy ? – PLEASE !

  • TonyB58

    On this occasion Farage is right. Our political class has no real interest in controlling this country’s borders. Of course Farage would point to the EU but this does not address the continued immigration from the New Commonwealth.

    Lets face it for most immigrants from the Third World the prospect of living here on benefits is much better than life at home. So don’t blame the immigrants but lets blame our spineless, self-serving political class, particularly Blair/Brown, greedy bosses who refuse to pay decent wages and our old friends the “useful idiots” of the Left.

    Another key problem with mass immigration is that has been imposed from above with no democratic mandate from the British people. To embark on such a radical social/cultural experiment without it even being proposed in an election manifesto shows how far New Labour, and to a lesser degree other parties in the past, hold the us all in contempt.

    The problem is how do we now get out of this mess? I fear for the liberal principles on which our society is built.

  • Dacus

    Anyone who thinks that Romanians are then UK’s biggest problem should read that:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/196677/nat_nino_regs.pdf
    Then, if they still think (Liddle man et al), they should go and see their shrink. ASAP

  • Wilhelm

    Deport, Deport, Deport and Deport.

    • Baron

      But, Wilhelm, this country doesn’t do Amin, you’ve got to think again, come up with something doable.

      • Robert Taggart

        Cheeky, but, alas, all too true !

  • ogga1

    Just another anti UKIP salvo fired off by dave.

  • furbian

    Ha, it’s quite obvious that no one commenting has ever been called, obviously I have, a n1gger, b1ack bas*ard, pak1, someone bred like a rabbit needing a kicking etc. To your average commentator here, ‘illegal immigrant’ is a sliding scale, European to non-white Muslim at the bottom end. Though by and large it’s largely colour of skin that singles one out. The van campaign just does that little bit more to encourage people to use lovely language to inform others that they couldn’t be ‘here’.

    Born British for the record, ready for some more ‘advice’ to **** off back home…

    • Daniel Maris

      No one civilised defends such behaviour. But if you are really concerned about people being treated that way then, please, oppose mass immigration…because it will surely end in a social disaster. In particular oppose Sharia implementation. I am sure you don’t want to see Sharia supplant a democratic free society.

  • Dacus

    Romanians illegals? As EU citizens they cannot be illegal immigrants in the UK. Grwnka Rod (that is Gr…Wanker with a Romanian pronunciation, the salute to Liddle man).

    • William Reid Boyd

      Yes, but the good lady was pointing to her mouth and not her handbag. New here obviously.

  • William Reid Boyd

    This is the official BBC info page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21523319.

    Anyone know whether the measures being considered have been adopted? Especially the one requiring immigrant jobseekers to speak English before they can claim jobseekers’ allowance.

    • Daniel Maris

      Don’t know but I’d stake a large sum on saying that under EU legislation such a proposal must surely be illegal.

      • William Reid Boyd

        Yes, I wouldn’t offer you odds in any case.

        It’s not so much a question of whether it’s illegal, as the near certainty it would get overturned by the ECJ on appeal. Indeed it’s quite clear: to discriminate against a Romanian grandma on the grounds that all she can manage by way of English is to utter “grwnka” sounds while alternately making cheque-writing gestures and pointing at the nearest dole office, would be to discriminate against her right to free movement under the Citizenship Directive as it would tend to inhibit her coming to these shores to claim benefits.

        The government might be advised to publicise what it is doing to take on the ECJ. God forbid that we are actually *ruled* by lawyers in this way …

        Incidentally countiries such as Switzerland or Norway that are not in the European Union and have negotiated their own trade agreements (as part of the EEA in the case of Norway) are none the less bound by the Citizenship Directive and these increasingly absurd ECJ rulings. I have my doubts as to whether a hypothetical UKIP government could negotiate an advantageous trading agreement with the EU that lets us out of that obligation. It does seem to me that the only way forward is to join with countiries such as Norway, Ireland and The Netherlands, and aggressively take on the European institutions over the issue of immigration. IDS is doing just that with his residency test and I wish him every success.

        • Dacus

          The problem is: the Romanian grandma would not be illegal, she is an EU citizen.

          • William Reid Boyd

            Not sure what your point can be here. EU citizenship doesn’t grant the right of residence in member states.It grants *workers* free movement (thus residence rights) in member states (nevertheless residency must still be conferred by the member state). Successive ECJ judgments have broadened the scope of “workers” to those seeking work. I think (off the top of my head without checking) you can be resident for a period of up to 3 months while seeking work. As far as spouses and family are concerned, the ECJ has given them residency rights as well in a series of judgements whose essence centres on the right of individuals to enjoy a family life and whose freedom of movement would be thus inhibited if the spouses of workers were not permitted to join them.

            As for benefits, that’s covered in the BBC info I cite above. IDS’s current spat with the commissioners is detailed here http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/30/uk-government-eu-migrant-benefits.

  • Daniel Maris

    What do people think about this figure:

    “In 2005 more than 286,000 British passports were reported lost or stolen, of
    which over 90,000 were reported missing during the summer months (June –
    August).”

    It would be interesting to know if these careless people are spread evenly across the country or concentrated in particular areas.

    I personally don’t know of anyone who’s ever lost their passport or even had it stolen. Obviously it can happen, but – let’s suppose 30 million people per annum have cause to use their passport, that would mean something like 1 in 120 people losing their passport or say three people on the 747 plane you fly on…is that credible?

    My suspicion is that many, perhaps most, of these lost passports are being “recycled” and used by people from abroad to gain entry and then set up in this country when they arrive. The suspicion must be that since only 90,000 are lost in the summer months (most of those may be genuine), probably something like 100,000 plus are being “lost” on purpose.

    • Wilhelm

      Hmm, seems like Britain has become the boarding house for the riff raff of the world.

  • Daniel Maris
    • Baron

      Daniel, that’s the core of the boil, the mixing up of two wholly incompatible belief systems rather than the transiency of the working arrangements of the good doctor from Romania.

      Have you ever objected to buying cheap trainers made in Taiwan, low cost mobile from China or to your pension money being invested in Australian mines or US property? Most likely not. Then why are you so opposed to the doctor’s coming here, having a job, earning money?

      The whole lot comes under the heading of globalisation, it feeds on free trade, free movement of capital and labour. We love it as consumers, dislike it, object to it if it hurts employment opportunities in our role as producers. Regretfully, we cannot have just the bit we like, it’s the Full Monty or nothing, and Baron reckons the former’s preferable to the latter.

      The problem with immigration ain’t the doctors, plumbers from the EU countries if they have jobs here. With passing time some will either assimilate a la Boris, or go elsewhere if they feel they can get a better deal for themselves. The problem is first that of numbers, but far more importantly, it is that some of the immigrants have no intention of absorbing our ways of doing things, but insist we should adopt their way of life or else. This, my blogging friend, is what should bother us.

      • TonyB58

        What’s a pension? Seriously I agree that there is an assimilation problem with immigrants from outside the EU. Many Poles and Ukrainians, Western Ukrainians who were Polish citizens from 1919-1939, remained in this country after World War Two and their male off-spring can now only be identified by Slavic surnames. Sadly more recent arrivals from the New Commonwealth and beyond have been allowed to avoid assimilation and have robust religious and cultural values with which they will not compromise. Added to this they marry almost exclusively from within their particular community or import grooms and brides from their original homeland. We have a rapidly growing parallel society growing within our borders and when the balance tips in their favour there is the frightening possibility that the liberal values that underpin our civilisation and culture will be brought to an end.

      • Daniel Maris

        I think it’s more complicated than that. The culture clash is but one aspect of mass immigration. Population growth is a serious issue in itself. Even if all immigrants were royalty loving union jack waving perfect English speakers, the addition to our population causes serious problems e.g. upward cost pressures on housing, huge additional infrastructure costs on transport and so on in our already densely populated urban areas.

    • Wilhelm

      Daniel Maris is becoming a Race Realist.

      I’m proud of you Daniel, I knew you could do it. All my work spreading the gospel of Race Realism wasn’t in vain, my prayers have been answered !

      • Daniel Maris

        No, I am a cultural realist – I don’t all cultures are of equal value. You’re a race fantasist. You believe that there’s something special about Nordic genes that imposes civilising order on society – despite the evidence of the Vikings.

  • Noa

    These signs are meant to show that a supine and incompetent government is standing up to illegal immigration.
    If they were really intent on addressing illegal immigration they wouldn’t be in English would they? After all that is now, like the original native population, a minority language in London.
    Rather they should be capable of being read by all Londoners. If they can read that is, from a giant rolling screen of the 300 plus languages that are now spoken in the Capital’s ‘skools’.
    This linguistic diversity alone is a towering achievement, for which our political masters are starting to assume an unaccustomed, abashed demeanour as the true cost of mass immigration rapidly erodes our financial wealth, social institutions and culture.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/european_languages/definitions.shtml

    • Noa

      An interesting perspective from Alexander Boot:

      http://alexanderboot.com/content/dave-poster-boy-immigration

    • Tim Reed

      The signs asking them to leave are all in English, but the forms with which they can claim benefits are in every language you can think of.

      Perhaps they had translators with megaphones in those vehicles, they provide them in every other sphere.

  • edlancey

    “or face arrest”, it’s hardly “will be dragged off to Heathrow” or “dragged away and shot” is it…

    • Noa

      ‘Or face arrest.’

      During which you will be housed and fed ovenight, being released the next day to arrange an appointment a lawyer of your choice to prepare your residence application and Human Rights abuse compensation claim.

  • DougS

    “….I wonder how many illegal immigrants who’ve seen the government’s imprecations for them to leave the country have done exactly that?….”

    Let me give that about a nanosecond of thought……….NONE, that’s my guess!

    • Tim Reed

      I guess you can’t blame them, but we can blame a government that appears to be either unable or unwilling to deal with the problem efficiently and with determination. This campaign is mere window dressing, an inadvertent admission of failure.

  • zanzamander

    You’re right, this campaign is more directed at us, the voters, than those pesky illegal immigrants. The government must take us for idiots.

    But, once again, why pick on Romanians? There are far more illegal immigrants pouring in from war torn Islamic countries than these poor unloved Romanians. Is it because they are a soft target – you won’t be labeled a racist or an Islamophobe and you won’t be attacked by the Liberal media if you lay into them than you would otherwise surely be if you spoke against the other group I mentioned?

    • Adrian

      They pick on us because we’re easy targets, just the right people to slam when you need a quick hit. Blame a whole country for the action of 3,2% of its inhabitants why don’t you (the percentage of rroma ethnics we are ‘blessed’ to have on our soil).

      I’m a Romanian doctor who came to offer his knowledge and expertise to help your struggling NHS.

      Is it alright if I stay, @austinbarry:disqus ?

      • zanzamander

        Eastern Europeans have made it easier for us to talk about immigration “as a bad thing”. Because before you guys, we only had blacks, Asians and some Chinese and to raise concerns about immigration and the impact it had on jobs, housing, social cohesion and NHS etc. was considered beyond the pale (no pun intended) – only racists, fascists and Tories talked about it.

        So now when we talk about the Romanians and Poles, we really mean the Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Africans and the West Indians.

        It is an open secret that, given a choice, we’d rather have Eastern Europeans settling here than people from Islamic countries, but we use you guys as cover when we talk about them.

        Welcome my friend.

        • sarahsmith232

          spot on. Labour has it’s all knowing, all seeing PC Stasi posted around every corner of this society. so we’ve all adapted. when a TV camera is recording a person will say ‘all these immigrants from Poland, where are they all flocking from’ when in fact what the person means is ‘all these immigrants from Pakistan, where are they all flocking from’. one is a perfectly permissible heartfelt concern about the effects of immigration on jobs, housing and the welfare state the other is an arrest by the police for a hate crime.
          when old Mrs Duffy said the above she meant Pakistani’s, Rochdale is thick with them but she better than to bring down the wrath of Labour’s PC Stasi on her head so she said Polish. you don’t really see Polish in Rochdale but Pakistani’s dominate. we all get the euphemisms but the E.Euro’s don’t. so sorry to our fellow Christian Euro’s, you’re getting caught in the crossfire

          • Dacus

            Quite right. I think there is a deliberate policy to put the white/Christian Eastern Euro’s in the crossfire.

        • funkinwolf

          Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Africans and the West Indians immigration has been vital to the British economy and achieving a progressive society.

          • Dacus

            Really? According to the DWP, the top third nationalities claiming benefit in UK are Somalis, Indians and Pakistani. So much for their contribution !

          • FrenchNewsonlin

            “achieving a progressive society” … While immensely enriching democracy with the import of age-old tribal and sectarian ballot box shenanigans from the Indian sub-continent.

            • funkinwolf

              The UK is one of the most socially progressive democracies in the world. All this with immigration. But if you got evidence that ‘age-old tribal and sectarian’ shenanigans have halted such progress, please be sure to find me reliable evidence.

              Because it was the Church of England and Conservative Party that made homosexuality illegal and did not want equal marriage. Seems like age-old shenanigans were being conducted by British people already HUH.

              • Noa

                What makes you think a socially progressive democracy’ is a good thing?

          • Noa

            A false assertion, admitted to be so even by the Labour government.

            http://www.migrationwatchuk.co.uk/Briefingpaper/document/15

      • Austin Barry

        “I’m a Romanian doctor who came to offer his knowledge and expertise to help your struggling NHS.”

        And, no doubt, to earn more money.

        • Noa

          Of which most will be transferred back to Romania.

          • thegreekbook

            The original value the money was payment for was already created here in the UK (medical services).

            And there are two possibilities with the money transferred to Romania:

            (1) they will be destroyed in some way, or remain unused. In which case you really have a doctor working basically for free, since unused money are just bits of coloured paper.

            (2) Romanians (or indeed, nobody else) have any use for UK pounds outside the UK; if used, the money in question will come back to the UK to be reclaimed in goods and services.

            For example, the person in Romania receiving the pounds goes to the exchange house and buys Romanian currency. Then the pounds held by the exchange house will be bought by someone travelling to the UK, where they are used just as the original person would have.

            Only good alternatives here.

            • Daniel Maris

              I very much doubt your analysis is correct. Otherwise according to you if we all decided on a Monday to direct all our salaries abroad, the UK economy would just carry on as before with no discernible impact from such a diversion of purchasing power.

              If the pounds hadn’t gone abroad and a tourist wanted to come to the UK, we could just simply print the pounds (because that is not inflationary for us – we gain real value through the printing of the pounds, namely the ability to buy goods in the Romanian currency). But wages going abroad is a real loss of purchasing power within the UK.

              • thegreekbook

                @danielmaris:disqus Printing money is exactly what the Bank of England does. All the time. It’s their job to monitor the money supply.

                It’s impossible to remove wealth from the UK by moving fiat money outside the UK borders.

                One person sending wages abroad will mean a loss of purchasing power for that person alone. Not the the UK in general. It will make no difference to the UK economy in general. Whatever that particular person will not spend will come back to the UK in some other form (say, the tourist that bought the currency) and will be eventually spent.

                • Noa

                  We aren’t talking about one expat exporting their earnings and benefits payments abroad, we are talking about uncounted millions of them doing so . That adds up to the economic desolation everywhere in the UK except inside the ‘bubbles’.
                  It’s a great part of the reason why East Europeans and Indian Sub continental immigrants collect their pounds from council flats here but build, furnish and staff their mansions in Tirana and Karachi.

                  And even as the BofE.prints more notes the value of sterling declines….

                • Hexhamgeezer

                  Indeed. And one of the greatest criminal acts apart from the tLabour open doors policy of the last 20 years is how their allies in local govt have then handed council properties to illegals and the unentitled non-Brits, some of which have then gone on to rent out at extortionate rates to fellow illegal countrymen enabling them to build mini property empires and fund their children’s education back home or build property here.

                  Never in a million years will any of the LibLabCon cabal focus on what has gone on in local housing in recent decades with the twin thrust of SWP sympathisers and dual national employees operating in (for e.g) London local authorities.

                • thegreekbook

                  @Noa

                  You have to decide – they’re either “unaccounted” or they export their “benefits payments” abroad. Can’t have both. Unaccounted people don’t get benefits.

                  Apart from that, your particular mix of xenophobia and primitive mercantilism is charming, until you start insulting people who disagree with you.

                • Noa

                  The simplicity lies with you, and a simple chronological re-reading of my posts will demonstrate who uses insults when their arguments are refuted.

                • thegreekbook

                  Sorry, you’re not making any sense to me. The only point I made was that if the doctor in question sends some of his earnings abroad, that won’t have any negative impact to your life.

                • Daniel Maris

                  No. You’re wrong. If someone wants to visit your country then all you have to do is print the (additional) money and they will give you THEIR money. So that is an absolute gain. That is why otherwise paranoid states like North Korea are so keen on tourists (and why tourists should be ashamed of going to such places).

                  Under your scenario, we lose out because instead of just printing the additional money, we have lost purchasing power/investment within the UK.

                  Look at it another way round…those people abroad aren’t able to create the wealth in their own countries…the money that goes abroad must represent REAL wealth – i.e. a share of our productive power (not theirs).

                • thegreekbook

                  Actually you don’t lose much purchasing power (if any at all) when money leaves the country. This is what the US and the UK have been doing in recent years actually – they printed stupendous amounts of money and sold them in the international markets, without crashing their respective currencies.

            • Noa

              Economic fallacy. A Britsh worker would re-invest the money in the UK, creating work and wealth here, not transferring it to Romania, or more probably, a Swiss bank account.
              Expatriates work abroad for economic gain, not the host country’s benefit.

              To pretend otherwise is an insult to their, and our, intelligence.

              • S R

                Swiss bank!? How much do you think the average ‘expat’ sends back home? £5000, £10000? More like a £100 or £200. And with what do you think immigrants buy food and pay bills and live life in general? Sheep? You’re just a laugh.

              • thegreekbook

                You just re-hashed some economically illiterate age-old arguments for protectionism.

                You did not, however, refute any of my points.

                Most of the rubbish you wrote starts from the misconception that money and wealth are the same thing – they aren’t.

                Not one British pound can actually be spent outside Britain for non-British goods or services. It is physically impossible to “export wealth” out of Britain by moving GBP currency outside the borders.

                • Noa

                  Basic, simple and sound Kenysian economics on the Accelerator and trickle down.- a pound spent locally benefits the shops and services in the hospital area and the creation of new wealth. I’m surprised that even an obvious unworldly lefty doesn’t approve of that-the flaw in your argument it-especially as your poorly expressed arguments propose the idea of Romanian tourists travelling to the UK to spend their exchanged pounds.

                  As the average romanian earns one tenth of his UK equivalent the £ in Romania will be exchanged for goods and services there.

                  Such UK currency as returns to UK does so in the form of bus tickets and start up money for a begging spot in Park Lane or for ATM electronic access equipment. The UK currency acquired then being exported to create goods and services in Romania……

          • Dacus

            No, it remains in UK as taxes and money spent on accommodation, food, etc. UK is the most expensive country in the EU so there is not much money left to be sent in Romania. And out of taxes taken from this Romanian doctor semi-illiterate British chavs will get benefits to watch day time TV.

            • Noa

              The net return for this fabled Romanian, less his living costs, will be at least 10 times greater than his net earnings at home-that’s why he comes.

              -And we all pay tax or should do-it’s part of the deal.

          • funkinwolf

            What nonsense. The taxes and disposable income will be given to the UK government and business. Not to mention the wealthier Romanian’s are the more they’ll import British goods. But never mind all that huh.

            • Noa

              I do, but’s obvious that you don’t, at least not the real one, where unlike idiots like you, people earn a living.
              And taxes are taken by government, not given. Dsposable income is just that- to be spent or saved as one choses.
              And when you claim that wealthier Romanians will tour the UK and ‘choose’ to import British goods, it’s really obvious that your cognitive inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality is complete.

              • funkinwolf

                You use of generalisations and information dumping is pathetic.

                • Noa

                  I see that you are following the standard marxist approach when the argument has been lost on fact and reason, reverting to unreasoned personal abuse and invoking the catch-all of facists everywhere in reverting to Godwin’s rule.

        • S R

          So what do you work for, if you work at all that is? Pebbles?

      • fantasy_island

        10 a penny doctors mate, who invited you?

        • Dacus

          Who invited all the Brits working in Germany, Switzerland, Middle East, to name only a few?

          • fantasy_island

            Why don’t you do what I did and ask them directly?

            • S R

              Don’t feel jealous because you aren’t worth inviting.

              • fantasy_island

                No, not in the least.

      • Alexsandr

        do you not feel guilty not staying in the country that educated you and a country that needs good doctors far more than we do here? For our inability to train enough medics is a scandal as we suck them in from countries that need medics too and make the effort to train them

        • S R

          Ok next time you’re in the A&E for any reason check your doctor’s credentials and then accept treatment.

          • Alexsandr

            so you think it acceptable for the UK steal medics from abroad where they are probably sorely needed rather than train enough for our own needs.

            Romania is short of medics I hear, so I was asking if Austin Barry felt any remorse leaving the country that trained him.

      • Wilhelm

        Dr Adrian from Romania

        Why do you hate your own country, that you can’t bare to live there ?

        • Wilhelm

          Doctor Adrian from Romania.

          It’s not the Romanians who are the problem, it’s really the Africans, West Indians, muslims and gypsies.

          • Wessex Man

            Only with a particularly nasty racist ranter like you, my Dentist is third generation West Indian, my Doctor’s family came here after the war from India, his father spent three years fighting the Japanese and I have several black friends. All these people consider themselves English, then British and they are.

            There are terrible overcrowding problems in all walks of life here because of Blair and Brown’s cynical opening of borders.

            Then Tory toffs try to fool the population that they are dealing with the problem and stir up most of the reasonable people to be exploited like you in their justifiable anger!

            • Wilhelm

              Wessex Man drops the nuclear bomb and mentions the dreaded ”R” word !!!

              Quite, meanwhile back on Planet Earth, Wessex Man my friend, call me old fashion but I don’t want my country over run by ”people” like this, I don’t want London turned into another Rorke’s Drift.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MqaCCbDco

              • Wessex Man

                I’m on Planet Earth you racist piece of work and you are certainly not my friend you never could be in a thousand years, your’e not old fashioned and it’s not your country to speak for!

                • Wilhelm

                  Wessex Man my friend says ”I have several black friends !!” How very patronising of you, they must be thrilled !

                  ”my Dentist is third generation West Indian”

                  Big deal.

                  ”All these people consider themselves English, then British and they are !!”

                  Nah, just because Wessex Man says it so doesn’t make it so, Jesus was born in a stable I suppose that makes him a horse then ?

                  The reality of Africa, and you want them here ? Gawd Almighty !

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsDtsWJ5ibE

                • Daniel Maris

                  Classic BNP trope – the stable analogy. Which means Cliff Richard and Melanie Sykes are not British.

                • Wilhelm

                  Ah yes, when you’ve lost the argument, squeal BNP, classic UAF trick. I’m disappointed in you Daniel, I thought you were better than that, such a shame. Oh well, Ho Hum !

            • Daniel Maris

              I agree. There may be social problems associated with Black Caribbean communities but they are well integrated into our society – like most British people they like a drink, a dance, playing and watching sport, their women are independent-minded and they speak English.

        • Frank P

          ‘ … that you can’t bare (sic) to live there?’

          You’re not suggesting that Adrian is Anthony Wiener, are you, Wilhelm. If he is, I’m glad he spared us illustration.

      • Frank P

        Thanks for drawing attention to Austin Barry’s posts, my attention has been distracted for some time and I had missed most of those witty epigrams; every wink a pig! … (as my old granny used to say as she never missed the target with my air pistol).

        [Btw anybody know the origin of that old exclamation of satisfaction at repeated success in endeavour?]

        Anyway I digress. If you truly are a doctor, Adrian, then shouldn’t you be dispassionate and rise above the fray. Surely before embarking upon your new life, you researched the pitfalls and benefits of moving to a new country wherein to practice your dark arts. If you did, you must have realised that an island community like England is a bit sussy of furriners – generally preferring its own? And you must have decided that the benefits here outweighed the drawbacks?

        If not, then you lack of curiosity and your hyper-sensitivity leads me to fervently hope that you don’t finish up in my surgery, both for the sake of your own health as well as mine. There are some curmudgeonly old beggars in this ‘ere neck of the woods and none of them, as yet, are Romanian. And their attitudes to imported quacks have been coloured by this type of experience:

        http://www.bmj.com/content/340/bmj.c3326

  • Hexhamgeezer

    I see the van mentions ‘106 arrests in your area’. by ‘area’ do they mean England or something smaller like south of Birmigham?

    • zanzamander

      Note the word arrests – not deported. Huge difference.

      • Tim Reed

        They were then asked if they wouldn’t mind making their way to the nearest port of departure, which of course they all did promptly and willingly.

  • Austin Barry

    This Lynton Crosby lunacy is unlikely to erode UKIP’s support as the army of perfectly legal, EU-prescribed Romanians and Bulgarians mass for the New Year’s Day, UK-residence sales doors to open.

    How will Lynton deal with that? Perhaps a portrait of Churchill armed with his Thompson sub-machine gun and the slogan, ‘We will fight them at the ATMs and on the Tube, we will never surrender to the seductive siren of the Hurdy-Gurdy men…’.

    Surely, Lynton is more swivel-eyed than any UKIP member.

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