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Rupert Murdoch: Cameron’s in trouble – I read it in The Spectator

25 May 2013

8:32 PM

25 May 2013

8:32 PM

From his base in New York, Rupert Murdoch knows where to get the best analysis of British politics: The Spectator. He has just Tweeted that David Cameron is in trouble, after reading James Forsyth’s brilliant political column. It’s easy to see why he was so struck. As so often, James’ tells you more about what’s really going on in SW1 than most newspapers put together. As you’d expect from the single best-informed journalist in Westminster. And he’s right, even by James’ standards, this week’s column is outstanding. Read the full thing here.

Of course, Rupe is not the only New York-based journalist who has worked out how to get the best dope about what’s happening in Britain. A few months ago the New York Times columnist, Ross Douthat, proposed the following new year resolution for his readers.

‘The would-be cosmopolitan who currently gets a dose of British-accented sophistication from The Economist — a magazine whose editorial line varies only a little from the Manhattan-and-D.C. conventional wisdom — might do well to read the London Review of Books and The Spectator instead’

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We’d reciprocate by recommending Douthat’s superb Bad Religion, easily the best book on the subject that I’ve read for years. Now, I’ll leave CoffeeHousers with a question: what is strange about the below Tweet?

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  • Shoe On Head

    fraser expect a call soon for a meet at one of his offsites. it’s how he operates.
    good time to push the twins for pay negotiations…Shhh

    (shoe on head)

  • HookesLaw

    The govt propose measures to check on the internet to track terrorists and the nutjobs scream blue murder
    we get terror attack and the nut jobs blame the govt
    Meantime Nelson sneers and promotes himself
    Welcome to life down the rabbit hole

    • allymax bruce

      The ‘nut jobs’ you talk of, would that be the True News, like RT, and aljazeera? As opposed to the nut jobs that work for the goverment like the massive distraction/MediaMentoring MSM?

  • allymax bruce

    Murdoch just put himself in the cross-hairs; Cameron is more powerful now, than he ever was. Murdoch is ignorant. Probably being ‘co-erced’ by his ‘super’ Republican pals to ‘diss’ Cameron. Same as his ‘super ‘ Republican stooge Trump. James fancies himself, unmerited! Fraser trying to ‘jump’ the ‘super’ rich Republican Legion!
    As the local COO says, ‘move alone; nothing to see hear’!

  • James

    David Cameron is a clown. The government is absolutely useless and fails to protect citezens because of a deluded view of the threats to our country and a lack of courage to deal with the problems properly.

  • Austin Barry

    Fraser’s recommendation of Douthat’s ‘Bad Religion’ is spot on, but it’s about “debased versions of Christian faith that breed hubris, greed, and self-absorption” rather than any rather more agitated cult.

    Incidentally, it was good to see Nigerians out in a ‘Not in Our Name’ protest in Woolwich yesterday, but I must’ve missed the similar protest from our you-know-who chums.

    • Barakzai

      That’s because Nick Robinson’s Bravehearts (‘shh, don’t speak their name . . . ‘) have been too busy voicing love and compassion on every BBC TV and Radio programme going.

  • Curnonsky

    This doesn’t sound like Rupe complimenting the Spectator (which he seems not to value enough to pay for) – he’s using it as a bellwether for Cameron’s falling star. “Even” the Spectator has woken up to Cameron’s political decline. Digger Schadenfreude, revenge for the knifing of Rebekah Brooks.

  • Colonel Mustard

    “David Cameron is launching a new terror task force to crack down on extremism in the wake of the horrific murder of Drummer Lee Rigby, Downing Street has confirmed. The Cabinet level group, which will also bring in intelligence and police chiefs when needed, will focus on radical preachers who target potential recruits in jails, schools, colleges and mosques. It will monitor trends in radicalisation and tackle “poisonous narratives”, No 10 said.”

    Er, DC & Co think UKIP has a “poisonous narrative”…

    • Daniel Maris

      Hunting down “narratives” now?

      I don’t see why people who want to see the global victory of Sharia should be allowed to give their “narrative” on events. The issue is whether they are actively conspiring, violently or otherwise, to introduce it contrary to the laws of this land.

      Free speech is now in jeopardy as the government hands the Jihadists a propaganda victory.

      Incidentally, are people aware of a copycat attack in Paris?

      • dalai guevara

        Yes, get the hammer out – just like after the riots.
        This Homeland Security-style approach never works, things will either continue to simmer and then escalate, or you extinguish but lose your freedom in the process.
        The Norwegians lead the way with regard to how remain sensible.

      • Fergus Pickering

        Nah, nothing happened in Paris. Nothing happened in Stockholm. And if it did then right-wing gangs like Farage’s are to blame.

        • telemachus

          Marine is sick
          Do not kick a lady when she is down

          • Fergus Pickering

            I would not dream of doing such a thing. More power to her shapely elbow. How superior she is to the swivel-eyed loon and father of lie at present besmirching the Presidency.

    • Makroon

      So, what happened to “no knee jerks” ?
      This sounds just like a Blair stunt.

  • Adrian Drummond

    Forsyth can be v. good except for his views on gay marriage.

    • Noa

      Agreed. But if he expresses his real opinions he will have to re- polish his latte making skills.

  • Fergus Pickering

    But can he/should he believe what he reads in The Spectator?

    • Fraser Nelson

      always

      • Fergus Pickering

        If written by you, Fraser, then of course. You are positively dripping with Scots integrity. But further down the bill, as it were… Some pieces are by politicians, after all. And the back half is purely entertainment value. As it should be.

        • telemachus

          Does Alex Salmond exude Scots integrity?

          • Fergus Pickering

            Nope. He exudes Scots hypocrisy. It depends on the Scot, you see.

            • rubyduck

              They’re very good at sanctimony.

              • http://daedparrot.blogspot.com/ Daedalus X. Parrot

                And much of the Scottish sanctimony is paid for by English money

            • allymax bruce

              Fergus, Reverse Premise (using one’s own personal / political projections to accuse enemy / opponent), argument? Or, do you have proof for your lazy slur on Scotland’s Democratically elected First Minister?

  • thanksdellingpole

    Did I just read two journals tugging each other off?

    • JabbaTheCat

      I think the phrase you are seeking is ‘circle jerk’…

  • Daniel Maris

    Anyway, we live in confusing times – when Mehdi Hassan writes for the Telegraph and is given space to tell us “cattle” what to think.

    • JabbaTheCat

      Perhaps the Chinese will adjust their curse to encompass living in confusing times?

  • Daniel Maris

    “Cameron’s in trouble…” I read it about six months before – on the Coffee House postings when you lot were telling us everything was hunky dory. :)

  • paulus

    What Cameron should have done was sack all his friends and make a big deal of it, pin all the blame on them. At the end of the day great leaders dont have friends. Look at Alex Ferguson, he built great teams to do a job once the job was done it was time for them to go.

    Loyalty is not for a few but for the many, Cameron must display a ruthless streak, go out to the wider Party and pick a new pretorian guard.

    • Makroon

      Ha-ha, as if.

    • http://daedparrot.blogspot.com/ Daedalus X. Parrot

      Almost correct. Cameron should first choose a new leader of the Conservative party.

  • Archimedes

    You’ve milked that superbly.

  • the viceroy’s gin

    Heh.

    Anybody who first read Dave was in trouble in the Speccie read it in the comments, laddie. You Speccie teenagers have been fawning over that lump all along, which Murdoch’s tweet makes quite clear… “Even…”

    • Wessex Man

      so so true, it’s lazy journalists like Fraser Nelson who have lauded Cameron and help maintain the myth that the votes will come rolling back in at election time and of course they won’t be.

      • Archimedes

        @Wessex Man, @the viceroy’s gin

        So you guys are just here for the comments, are you? It’s stoic the way you chaps give so selflessly, working all day, all night, over the weekends, even bank holidays, just to enlighten the world.

        What’s really inspiring about you both is that you get out and do things, changing the world, not like lazy journalists that just sit at their computer writing uninformed rubbish all day. You guys are out networking, picking apart the Whitehall machine, and scrutinising it with great clarity, thought and insight.

        The truth is that these Speccie teenagers probably wouldn’t have anything to do at all, if it wasn’t for you chaps providing them with content that they could plagiarise. And yet, you say nothing against them.

        You’re both heroes. The real kind. Unsung. Unsung heroes.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          Well, we do what we can.

          Thank you.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          Well, we do what we can.

          Thank you.

          • dalai guevara

            hahaha, the engineer – you never quite ‘got’ the théorème d’Archimède either, did you?

          • dalai guevara

            does this engineer actually understand Archimedes’s principle?

            • the viceroy’s gin

              …what are you rambling on about now, laddie?

              • dalai guevara

                Yes indeed, it appears he hasn’t got a clue what he actually said.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …is that what the voices are telling you?

        • Noa

          The ore has to be mined. The iron is then refined.

        • Fraser Nelson

          Archimedes, I’m so glad you keep leaving comments here. I turned 40 last week, and you’re the only person who refers to me as a teenager. It makes me feel young.

          • JabbaTheCat

            On the Archimedian scale of time, at 40 you are a mere babe in arms…

          • ScaryBiscuits

            Fraser, much as I like you, it’s a compliment to call a lady young, not a man. For the latter it implies naivety, choosing for too long to believe the spin from Cameron above the common sense of Spectator readers, however inelegantly expressed here.
            James is truly the best insight on the thinking from within the No10 bunker. But it is also true that he has achieved this at the cost of journalistic integrity.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              I believe the Speccie teenager is posturing as “above it all”.

              The posture is ill matched, as we see in this discussion.

          • Archimedes

            Awww, that’s really sweet — it makes me feel good about myself to know that. Really, it does. If only the whole world had the sort of quid pro quo, the — yes — chemistry that we have, maybe then the whole world would just be happy, and at one with itself.

            Anyway, must dash — I’m off to dance in the meadow. Big hug.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              …yes, leftists always show a great deal of concern for “feelings”.

              Results don’t matter… only their own “feelings”.

              • Archimedes

                And you polarised politicos all have one thing in common: you’re all miserable gits.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …and leftists always project their own “feelings” onto others.

                  It’s only “feelings” that count, afterall.

                • Archimedes

                  Well: there it is.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  I agree.

                • Wessex Man

                  Yes I just hope he leaves it there.

    • Rhoda Klapp7

      More wisdom below the line here than above it. Unfortunately much of what is down here is not wise at all but at least it’s freel. Anyhow, it ain’t brilliant Mr Forsyth, he is more prone to peddling pro-Cam propaganda in order to maintain his position in the lobby to the detriment of the integrity of his output. A little more examination of the guff which is put his way might make him more credible.

      • Makroon

        Fraser missed the big question – will Murdoch now give Mr Forsyth a well paid job on the Sun ?
        D’you think Fraser is trying to get rid of Forsyth ?

        • Fraser Nelson

          Makroon, James already has a column with the Mail on Sunday. And the quality of his journalism is hardly a secret that I’m betraying with this blog.

          • Rhoda Klapp7

            I fault him on insight. Or perhaps I should say demonstrated insight. I am well aware that the job of lobby correspondent leads to conflict and compromise, it is after all working for two masters with an eye on a couple more. But the fact remains that you will find better summations in the comments here. For example, running QE as an inflation threat today. Down here it has been considered such for more than a couple of years. The pressures on Cameron ditto. We are still miles ahead the the Spect and all its mates on Europe. It is so blatant that one has to wonder whether there is a fix in, as in the recent muslim-related stories. Is it the govt? Is it the NUJ? Is it just laziness, or PC nonsense? Whatever the answer, we are ill-served by our media.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            “…the quality of his journalism is hardly a secret that I’m betraying with this blog.”

            .

            …and never was there a secret more effortlessly kept unbetrayed.

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