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David Cameron: We’re all Thatcherites now

17 April 2013

9:16 AM

17 April 2013

9:16 AM

David Cameron is giving a reading at Margaret Thatcher’s funeral later today, but this morning he gave his eulogy on the Today programme. He made the quite striking observation that ‘we’re all Thatcherites now’. In one sense this is quite an obvious comment: as countless commentators have observed over the past week and a half, Margaret Thatcher didn’t just change the way the Conservative party viewed economics and the state, she also changed the way Labour sold itself as a party. Cameron said:

‘I think in a way we’re all Thatcherites now because – I mean – I think one of the things about her legacy is some of those big arguments that she had had, you know, everyone now accepts. No-one wants to go back to trade unions that are undemocratic or one-sided nuclear disarmament or having great private sector businesses in the public sector.’

But the funny thing is that he wasn’t quite so keen to say that before the 2010 general election: in fact, he was just as careful to distance himself from parts of her legacy as he was today to align himself. His Radio 4 interview had him explaining where he’d like to go further than the Iron Lady: on local government. This shift is quite natural: today is Thatcher’s funeral. But it’s interesting that the Prime Minister feels the momentum is now gathering behind being a Thatcherite, and perhaps fading away from being a Cameroon.

Some of his Tory colleagues haven’t got that memo, though. Claire Perry found herself in hot water over the weekend for writing a piece that appeared critical of the former Prime Minister’s legacy. But others have taken her death as a sign that they should reflect about the state of the party as it is at the moment. One arch anti-Cameron backbencher told me earlier that the passing of Baroness Thatcher meant many of his colleagues were happy to give David Cameron the benefit of the doubt for a bit longer.


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  • global city

    David Cameron is the heir to Heath, not Thatcher

  • Mynydd

    £10,000,000 is not much, North Sea Oil revenues will pay for it, just as they paid for Mrs Thatcher’s economic and unemployment policies. Unfortunately for Mr Cameron/Osborne the depleted North Sea Oil revenues can no longer pay for their failed policies.

  • AnotherDaveB

    “His Radio 4 interview had him explaining where he’d like to go further than the Iron Lady: on local government. ”

    He identified local government, centralisation of decision making power in Westminster, as an error Mrs Thatcher had made. Something he wanted to reverse.

    He said this before the election too. There were a series of events hosted by the CPS, I think under the banner of the ‘post bureaucratic age’, the general theme of which was devolution/decentralisation of power. EU > Westminster > local government > individuals & communities. There used to be audio recordings available from the CPS website.

    http://www.cps.org.uk

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

      “Local Government” is a disaster riddled with corruption. It is simply bloated and inept and cannot return to what it was pre-1972 before the nightmare started

      • AnotherDaveB

        Of course it can. If local government has decision making power then local elections become more important, and will attract more attention from the electorate.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

          Local Elections are a farce. We don’t even have any this year so they jack up Council Tax and make people get ID Permits to use recycling centres

  • Smithersjones2013

    Some of his Tory colleagues haven’t got that memo, though. Claire Perry found herself in hot water over the weekend for writing a piece that appeared critical of the former Prime Minister’s legacy.

    It Figures. Perry is proving to be amongst the dumbest political cannon fodder there is.

  • allymax bruce

    I watched Mrs Thatcher’s funeral today, and thought it was probably the best eulogy that could describe her political life; even in her Christian death!
    I mean, Maggie’s grand-daughter read from Ephesians 6; stating that Maggie was a Christian warrior, that only had ‘forward’ mode. However, in Revelation of John the Divine, Jesus warns the Ephesians (Rev’ 2), that they are his favourite ‘church’, but they have lost their love for, and show hate for, their neighbours the Nicolaites; and that would deduct a candle from their church!
    Talk about parodies of Westminster & Scotland!
    I read my family bible to look at what Sir Walter Scott said in his commentary about Ephesians 6; Scott states, “The minds of the Christian soldiers ought to be fortified and prepared for the assault … Thus the whole suit of armour would be complete; for no covering was provided for the back, as victory must be sought by valour, not by cowardice.” (Sir Walter Scott). How very Maggie Thatcher!
    Believe it, or not; David Cameron was the only one that ‘officially’ asked ‘Forgiveness’ of Margaret Thatcher today! At Mrs Thatcher’s funeral, he read John 14; basically stating that as humans, we are all fallible; and Maggie got it wrong by not being ‘compassionate’ enough! Backed-up by the Bishop’s rendition of Psalm 121.
    Still, in death, Maggie is divisive; a wondeful Chrisitan woman, but a fearess Prime Minister.

    • Colonel Mustard

      Probably significantly less divisive than the Labour party. Their current posture is almost 100% divisive, despite the irony of Milibandwagon bleating about “one nation”. New Labour was almost entirely divisive and as a “British” government their devolution programme was an interesting contradictory precursor to ‘one nation’ with its built-in inequalities for English and Scots. Their embrace of Lisbon was divisive. Their anti-hate speech and equality laws have been spectacularly divisive. Whilst their curiously party political immigration “policy” has stored up a world of divisiveness for future generations with a bleak sectarian prognosis for Britain.

      And yet they escape largely unscathed whilst the media and commentariat focus on the mythology of Margaret Thatcher. Probably because the left constantly wallow in the delusion that they represent “the public” and therefore anything they believe in or pursue should be conformed to by everyone else. Anyone who disagrees and challenges that is of course “divisive”.

      • allymax bruce

        “New Labour was almost entirely divisive … with its built-in inequalities for English and Scots.”

        Colonel Mustard, excellent analysis; you ‘nail’ Bliar’s Third Way; he has spent the last 5 years ‘touring’ the world telling all-&-sundry despot-governments how to manipulate their own people by dividing them, using ‘moralising the immoral argument’ (allymax), and Counterproductive policymaking like ‘Equalities’ etc. Most people can’t see this but you can; well done Col’ Mustard.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

      Yes good readings and a good piece from the Bishop of London.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

        So what was wrong with the readings and the Bishop of London ?

  • Daniel Maris

    No we’re not. Many of us are not in favour of emasculating trade unions, promoting financial services as the key element in our economy, privatised utilities that are really dividend support mechanisms, staying in the EU, using North Sea oil to prop up the welfare dependency ,mass unemployment or support for the inefficient and dangerous nuclear power industry.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

      “Lector, si monumentum requiris, Circumspice”

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Hedges/100001511186412 Charles Hedges

        Sic semper tyrannis

        • Colonel Mustard

          Which applies very much more to the tyrants of the left, including those currently feathering their own nests in the “third sector” and inflicting Common Purpose on an ignorant nation, than it ever did to Thatcher.

          “Cherish freedom”.

  • HookesLaw

    I do not think it was Mrs Thatcher who changed the way the conservative party viewed economics – there was a lot of work done in opposition by people like Sir Keith Joseph.

    I believe it was Andrew Marr who wrote that ‘we are all Thatcherites now’. I think Blair may have said it as well

    • Daniel Maris

      I’m sure you’ll find the phrase dates back to the mid 80s.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

    He said in that contingent way he speaks “I think we’re all….” but in the journo hype to man up the boy you omit the contingent preamble. It is funny. No we are not and you should cease using Harcourt’s phrase from 1894 when introducing Death Duties

  • thanksdellingpole

    Isn’t that like when TB said we’re all middle-class now.

    DC has to go!

  • stevemckay

    Those that admired Thatcher and believe in her politics have every right to ‘celebrate’ her life and give her a send off.

    In fact I sincerely welcome the attempt to re-write history and sanctify this Tory leader. It beautifully illustrates why Scotland should no longer prop up our disfunctional and delusional union.

    I hope that today, after viewing or reading about the funeral, people living in Scotland will do more than just turn their backs.

    I hope they will be inspired to turn and walk away. Toward an alternative future in an independent Scotland that can return the hope, opportunity and social justice destroyed by Westminster governments over recent decades.

    We owe it to the damaged and disadvantaged in our society, to future generations and to ourselves.

    The most dignified thing we can do in memory of Thatcher is to vote yes to independence.

    • GUBU

      What a nice little speech…you must be very proud of it.

      It’s ‘dysfunctional’ by the way.

      Oh, and remember to close the door on your way out…

      • stevemckay

        Thanks GUBU! Not written with any pride – just conviction.

        Dis or Dys are both fine – dis actually makes more sense given the origins of the word ‘function’.

        Your quite right – independence is for keeps – no doors will be left open to a political union. Our friendly social union and mutually beneficial economic relationship will of course continue unaffected.

        • HookesLaw

          the prefixes Dis and Dys mean different things (from different classical roots) and in the context of an alleged impaired function then dys is the appropriate one to use.

          If you wished to take away the function of a union then you could I suppose disfunction it … but this seems a messy use of English to me and I doubt if it is a legitimate word.

          And independence is not necessarily for keeps, but I would suggest that if an independent Scotland had, to put it politely, a change of heart, or to put it less politely, came running back to England cap in hand, then it should be on the basis of a fully integrated non devolved and totally unified one sole united kingdom.

          • stevemckay

            Dis- comes from Latin and Dys- from Greek. The word ‘function’ has Latin roots, so disfunctional would make more sense. Disfunction is simply a variant of dysfunction – but in future I’ll use dysfunction as you suggest. It is more widely considered the correct spelling. That Thatcher and the trouble she causes! I feel dycidedly dispeptic 😉

            As for your last remark – well thats the delusional bit in a nutshell.

            • HookesLaw

              Dys and Dis mean different things so the root of the word it is attached to is meaningless.. Not that I mean to diss you.

              Were Scotland to be independent then there is nothing to stop it coming back, if they could stomach the terms.

              • 2trueblue

                Would we want them back? That is the real question.

            • GUBU

              But ‘dis’ does not have the same meaning as ‘dys’, and therefore actually makes less sense. Etymology aside, I can’t help feeling that your evident belief in independence as a panacea for all Scotland’s social ills will prove just as illusory as anything suggested by HookesLaw. But at least you will now know the right word to use when referring to the performance of your own government in a few year’s time.

              • HookesLaw

                I hate to disarm my critics by saying you are right; I am indeed looking at the future through rose tinted glasses, If Scotland were to come back with cap in hand wishing to recreate a disassembled union then I am sure the pressure will be for it to be given even more dysfunctional devolution as a sop.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

            and totally unified one sole united kingdom…..run from Brussels no doubt

          • 2trueblue

            Should they wish to return perhaps we should have a vote to say whether we would sanction this?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

      I think you should be more respectful. Today is the day Thatcher will be consigned to the flames.

      • Russell

        You really are as the bbc would say…A nasty piece of work aren’t you..

        • Wessex Man

          He certainly is and probably too young to remember “the good old days” when un-elected Union Barons ran our country into the ground.

          • stevemckay

            Your right Wessex man.

            I’d much rather the country was run into the ground by the financial services industry and the insatiable greed of the ‘entitled’ classes – thank god for good old Thatcher eh!

            As for un-elected – that describes Tory governments in Scotland very nicely. Time for a permanent change!

            • HookesLaw

              The country being run into the ground and 7% wiped off its productive capacity in a matter of months had nothing to do with Thatcher but everything to to with three Scotsmen, Blair and Brown and Darling. And of course a Scotsman born in Yorkshire, Campbell.

              • stevemckay

                You’ve done delusional and now you are attempting the re-writing of history. Will you now finish by flying in the face of evidence and common sense and attempt to sanctify Mrs T?

                I am no apologist for blu-labour but you have to join the dots a little better. The strange attempt to blame a few Scots in a sea of UK politicians says a lot about your ability to have a sensible perspective. Just out of interest was it only the Scottish politicians that brought down the mighty UK – or can you think of a few others?

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

                How is he a Scotsman born in Yorkshire ? Cameron is a Scotsman born in London by that token; and Osborne an Irishman born in London.

            • Wessex Man

              I guess that youl’ll be voting for your “independence” from we wicked English in 2014 then and no matter what will apply to join the the Soviet Socialist Euopean Union as stated by them when Alex Salmond insisted the a independent Scotland would stay within it, good luck with that one.

              • stevemckay

                Eh? – I happen to like England a great deal, have lived there for six years and have many English friends. I also think that Scotland will be better represented politically if independent and that in time England will also benefit – particularly in the north.

            • Colonel Mustard

              RBS

              • stevemckay

                Roughly 90% of RBS operations are in England and the bank (like many others) was poorly regulated / scrutinised by the UK government and institutions. The City of London made a mess on its own doorstep – oops.

                • Wessex Man

                  The charming Sir Fred the shred, who bankrupted RBS was congradulated on his disaterous acquistions shortly before they went belly up as “a magnificent advance for Scotland” by Alex Salmond. How quickly those like yourself seek to blame we English!

                • stevemckay

                  HBOS is in exactly the same position as RBS and has a discredtided boss that lost his knighthood just like Fred. This has nothing to do with whether you are English or Scottish – you seem desperate to make it about nationality for some strange reason. It has to do with greed and incompetance at the heart of the financial and political establishment and how to put an end to it. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and become part of the solution!

                • Wessex Man

                  I don’t feel sorry for myself at all, I feel a little bit sorry for you, you do not to realise the offensive way you blunder with your “witty” comments! Is that not what Alex Salmond said to Sir Fred then? You never answer a question put to you. You know as well as I do that’s exactly what he put in his e-mail, it’s a matter of public record in Scotland.

                  You in particular seem to me to be in that mode of the charming Alasdair Gray with his little prose about we English entitled Settlers and Colonists, or the even more charming Tom Anderson Cairns Wha’s Like Us- Damn And They’re A’ Deid.

                  Maybe you are as charming as Gordon Brown, puporting to supporting English Football as the unelected Prime Minister when one of his advisors lets it slip that he would more likely be singing The Fields of Athenry with him.

                • stevemckay

                  Ok Wessex Man. I’ll do deal with you. Let’s stop feeling sorry for each other and be straight.

                  I don’t care which financial pillock in which amoral bank messed up – those specific people are parasites, are apparently found in most cities in the UK and not worth our consideration.

                  You have completely misunderstood Alasdair Grays remarks as they were manipulated and then reported in the most appalling way.

                  I have pointed out to you several times that I have lived and worked in England and have many English friends. You really need to understand that the independence debate is not about England vs Scotland.

                  Its about self determination. One of the most fundamental human rights on the planet. Please try to understand.

                • Wessex Man

                  Thank you stevemckay, you may or not be surprised to know that I have quite a few Scottish friends, indeed I have Scottish Family in Coatbridge.

                  I therefore feel entitled to comment about the Scottish Independence debate and if you scroll back on this comment strand you will see that I actually support Scottish Independence. You must understand that I also support the establishment of an English Parliament free of Westminster control. We English also require our fundamental human right of self determination.

                  As a result of the devolution acts of 1997/98 we were left as the only country with the United Kingdom without an Assembly or Parliament. We are the only country within the Western World without a Parliament.

                  Many English people including myself believe that the entire UK should be broken up into individual countries and the sooner the better. If you understand what I am saying about England we will part with mutual respect.

                • stevemckay

                  Hi Wessex man

                  I am very happily surprised and agree with you. I think that you should go even further and that Westminster should devolve more power to the English regions to become more democratic. Westminster has far too much power concentrated within it.

                  Lets hope Scotland says Yes in 2014 and this kicks off a serious debate in England, Wales and N Ireland. Good luck.

                • Wessex Man

                  ah but there we disagree, we English don’t want to be regionalised, we want to be one nation with one Parliament and I personally don’t care where that Parliament is held. If we were all independent countries Westminster would not exist!

                • stevemckay

                  Fair enough – but the north / west vs south / east political divide would still remain in England and needs to be addressed somehow. Perhaps an English version of Brasilia – located at the geographical heart of the country would smooth things over a bit…..but its hard to please us chippy northerners!

                • Wessex Man

                  Other people would say no but I love Birmingham!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

            Remember them very well, and am decidedly more knowledgeable than you kiddo. You senile old fools like to think that those who recollect vividly are not part of your misty recollection. Have another gin on the 19th hole !

            • GUBU

              Never assume you are the cleverest person in the room. It’s not simply good manners: more often than not, the chances are that you won’t be.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

                Beyond doubt, I am

                • GUBU

                  In my experience, a little doubt is a good thing. In its absence, you might do better laying claim to being the most arrogant, with your remark above offered as definitive evidence.

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

                  I am merely aware that I am superior to yourself …”Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a
                  candlestick, and it lighteth all them which are in the house.”….

                • GUBU

                  A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

                  I am tired of concealing knowledge in this land of ignorant fools. I am tired of living with disaster after disaster because Stupidity has been elevated to a national pastime and as Orwell put it: Ignorance Is Strength. This tall poppy syndrome should be blasted out of the English before it destroys them completely.

                • Wessex Man

                  For someone who thinks himself far more intelligent than we English you certainly let yourself down quite often and show your racist roots!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

            Be nice to be too young to remember……so nice……

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

          Cremation is what it has always been….try attend a few

          • Russell

            I have attended cremations, but to attempt humour with the flames line is not only disrespectful, in bad taste and generally purile, but in line with Galloway humour.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

              You missed the “e” from puerile btw. There was no “humour” simply statement of fact

    • Daniel Maris

      Yep, this Thatcherolatry will play very badly in Scotland.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

        It is going great guns in Northern England….

    • Nicholas chuzzlewit

      More than happy to see you depart and watch you paint your faces in blue woad etc. Unfortunately, what your Mr Salmond is offering does not look much like independence to me. Shared armed forces, retain Sterling, Bank of England control of the money supply, piggy-back British embassies around the world, retain EU membership under existing UK terms? The answer to all of these questions and more seems to be yes. You might like to check with Mr Salmond before getting measured up for that brand new ‘independence tartan’ kilt you seem to be longing for.

      • Wessex Man

        Nicholas chuzzlew

        Please bear in mind that stevemckay, Tom Tom and allymax bruce are represent a minority of 0.001%. Other more sane Scots who come on these blogs stating clearly why they want indepence make up some 30% of Scots who want indepence are quite sane and I wish them well. I have just been told that Nigel Farage has been invited by the Scottish UKIP to campaign for the Union, I expect that figure for independence to jump by at least 21%!

        • stevemckay

          Interesting that from my very innoccuous comments you brand me insane, ignorant of why independence is important for Scotland and invent a silly statistic.

          Don’t think you may be over reacting by any chance?

          Certainly comes across as a wee bit of a hissy fit.

      • stevemckay

        Ah – the last refuge of the petty and ill informed – silly abuse. Water off a ducks back I’m afraid.

        As for the benefits of Independence – they are of course many, from day one, and countless as time unfolds.

    • Colonel Mustard

      It would be a good idea. It might just give England a chance to find itself again untrammelled by Scottish socialists. The problem for the English is that they never turned their backs or walked away from anyone and have received only blame and hatred as a result.

      Oh, you thought nationalism only existed in Scotland? You thought Scots triumphalism a right but British triumphalism only a cynical Tory product? Sorry, I misunderstood you.

      • stevemckay

        I think that many Scottish voters would be extremely happy to ‘untrammel’ themselves from your wee Tory fiefdoms – as indeed would many in Wales and the North and West of England.

        Loved your little revisionist moan about the English never turning their back on anybody. A cursory glance back at our joint Imperial past confirms we have much to be ashamed of in the abandoning and doublecrossing department.

        I am in no way triumphalist – no idea where you get that from. You do realise that Scotland constitutes about one third of Britain and one half of the original agreement to form the UK. I will be as Scottish and Brittish after independence as before.

        Feel free to be as triumphalist and nationalistic as you like – it’s none of my business.

  • telemachus

    Today is in fact a solemn and great National Occasion
    My team and I are walking toward the Strand as I tap into my iPhone

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

      You poor deluded fool buying an iPhone on hp

  • telemachus

    Overall an impressive Cameron Today

    But Evan gave him a soft ride eg he let him get away with a question denying he was a follower when he bid for the Tory Party Leadership

  • Russell

    Despite every broadcast and virtually every journalist/hack stating categorically that Mrs Thatcher was divisive, Sky could only spot one or two protesters this morning in the crowds of thousands and the more determined BBC, a group of about fifty demonstrators/protestors.
    Blair & Brown were more divisive than Mrs Thatcher.

    From the repulsive Galloway and Skinner to the other nobody’s who say this £10million semi-state funeral is a disgrace, someone should remind them that the last Labour government gave £4.5 million of taxpayers money to the !Russians! to pay for training of their political figures a few years ago!

    • http://twitter.com/Shinsei1967 Nick Reid

      The £10m is such a red herring. It’s used by critics because it sounds a lot in relation to most people’s personal financial dealings.

      It would be interesting to see what the costing would be of a “low key” memorial service. Assuming you have 2,000 VIPs attending then your policing bill is going to be in the millions. Throwing in a WW1 gun carriage doesn’t add much to the cost.

      • Russell

        And the stupid Abbott woman who criticises the cost conveniently doesn’t mention the fact that it was the last labour government who decided to have a funeral for Mrs Thatcher of this type and therefore the cost, did most of the planning and agreed it all years ago! Despite Milibands excellent ‘tribute’ speech, labour can’t help itself with scum like Abbott and Skinner etc.

        • thanksdellingpole

          Dionne Abbot is a complete waste of oxygen.

          • HookesLaw

            And Nitrogen

            • thanksdellingpole

              Oh man, all that pork flying everywhere!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

          I am sure Diane Abbott is up to criticising Gordon Brown and is entitled to do so. Only you Russell, think he is beyond reproach

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

        £10 million is predicated on the £8.1 million for the funeral of The Queen Mother. Of course Thatcher’s “True Blue” send off could have been funded by City donors like Michael Spencer and Michael Ashcroft

        • http://twitter.com/Shinsei1967 Nick Reid

          As others have pointed out much of the £10m is the “accounting cost” of employing people who are already on the government payroll (be they soldiers or police).

          So it isn’t as if there would be £10m to spend on more nurses or teachers if today’s funeral had been purely a small family affair.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

            So the war in Afghan is simply variable cost ?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

            You should contact the NAO with your methodology. Since the team arranging this funeral also arranged the funeral of the Queen Mother it is to be hoped accounting methodology will be the same. Likewise, The Queen met half the cost of her mother’s funeral. There are defined accounting methods and it would be most unfortunate if the Conservative Party felt it had to be frauduluent in its presentation of costs simply because it failed in its fiduciary responsibilities when in government

            • Andy

              The funeral arrangements had nothing to do with the Conservative Party. As I understand matters this type of funeral can be given to any former Prime Minister. No other Prime Minster, certainly in my lifetime has availed themselves of the offer. And I understand that the State contributes to the funeral of a former Prime Minister and pays for the Memorial Service. Remember the comparison with Sir Winston Churchill is totally false. That was a State Funeral by command of Her Majesty, and subject to a motion in each house.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

                I never mentioned Winston Churchill, why did you ?

      • HookesLaw

        I presume it costs money to hire St Paul’s Cathedral but the police and soldiers get paid for sitting in barracks.

        Its good to see St Paul’s on display a magnificent building built by Sir Christopher Wren … helped by a certain Robert Hooke.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

          Good to know soldiers “sit in barracks” as opposed to layabouts like yourself. Let’s see if we can get more dead politicians to keep them employed then, shall we ?

        • Nicholas chuzzlewit

          I would love to have witnessed some of the spats between Hooke and Newton. Probably little of their mutual dislike happened face to face but it would have been very entertaining.

    • Colonel Mustard

      The BBC Radio 3 news announced the gathering crowds as being in the “hundreds” too.

      • 2trueblue

        But the BBC can’t count. In fact there is not much they can get right.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

      Funny how cameras only capture things in front of the lens…..

    • HookesLaw

      The robber baron trade union leaders were the divisive ones.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

        They are long dead but not in your mind clearly

        • Andy

          No we have a new crop of the leftie bastards.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Hedges/100001511186412 Charles Hedges

      You forget that her despicable warmongering son could and should have paid for the funeral, and for the canonisation.,

      • Russell

        You forget the £billions lost due to the incompetence of Brown & Labour in forming the FSA and having to bail out Banks, plus the £millions lost on Brown & Labours incompetent PFI contracts/schemes, plus the £200 million lost by Brown & labour paying private health companies to do NHS work, none of which was done, and a whole lot more.
        £10million (if indeed that is the cost) is nothing for a nation paying respect to a PM voted in 3 times by a majority in our voting system (consistently more than 2 million votes more than labour on each occasion), who fixed a broken Britain left by labour.
        No canonisation was carried out today, just a huge majority of people paying respect compared to a handful of disrespectful scum attempting to disrupt a funeral for an old woman.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004981542519 Tom Tom

          Brown clearly planned this funeral in atonement for his sins. Will you now praise him Russell for organising this event at taxpayer expense ?

          • Russell

            If I attempted to praise Brown, I would not be able to get the words out as vomit would prevent it happening. The sight and thoughts of what Brown did to this country makes me feel quite sick.

    • 2trueblue

      Also add in the £75billion she got back from the EU, which of course we know Blair and Darling gave back a fair chunk to the EU. Seems Mrs T was well ahead in credit terms.

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