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Victorious PM paints himself as Camileo the EU heretic

8 February 2013

8 February 2013

In his victory address after the successful EU Budget deal this afternoon, David Cameron sought to paint himself once again as a Galileo-style EU heretic who spoke truth to power. This was all about what Cameron himself had achieved: his press conference statement was full of first person references to what he had ‘slashed’ and ‘achieved’. At one point he even said ‘at last someone has come along’ to sort the EU’s ‘credit card’, again clearly referring to himself.

This echoes the Prime Minister’s Europe speech last month where he talked about Europe’s ‘experience of heretics who turned out to have a point’. Today he was Camileo, the heretic who did have a point and won the argument. He was keen to underline that his negotiating skills meant Britain was not, as Labour likes to say, isolated in Europe, saying:

‘It also shows that working with allies, it is possible to take real steps towards reform in the European Union. As I said in my recent speech, this is the way to get a good deal for Britain and a good deal for Europe too and that should include a good deal for Europe’s taxpayers and that’s exactly what we’ve delivered today.’

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Cameron did work well with allies at this summit. While Hollande delivered le snub  rather than joining talks with Cameron, Merkel, van Rompuy and Barroso, the British PM had meetings with his key northern allies, and kept Merkel on side. All this, he hopes, bodes well for the biggest test of Camileo the heretic: his renegotiation of Britain’s EU membership.

P.S. Herman van Rompuy had a rather less clear interpretation of the budget deal. ‘Obviously, you can look at the end result through many, many prisms,’ he said, helpfully. Hopefully that doesn’t include Edward Leigh’s quite terrifying ‘merciless prism’


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  • cyllan2

    there are no EU victories…..only losing stalemates till we get a referendum….which we wont….

  • David Alexander

    A cut is better than an increase buy any savings will be gone when all the new immigrants start claiming benefits

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    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41492

    • Deputy Dawg

      Its not a cut though. It is an increase. We are paying more.

  • HooksLaw

    Another example of the tabloidisation of the spectator. Where did cameron say he painted himself as a Galileo style heretic? it strikes me as a pretty poor and inaccurate analogy anyway.

  • Radford_NG

    But by how much is the British net contribution going to INCREASE ?[It’s already the equivalent of a poll-tax of £2-56 per week.]

    • 2trueblue

      Yep, it is going to increase because Bliar gave the rebate away. Get with it. You can call it the poll tax but it is what Bliar stole from us.

    • HooksLaw

      It was always going to increase as Blair gave our budget away. Now it will go up less.

      As the great man himself said in his press conference the reason is…
      ‘changes that Tony Blair made, changes that I vigorously opposed at the time – our net contributions were always going to go up, because now when the European Union spends money on, for instance, structural funds and cohesion payments in Eastern European countries – a good use of money, it’s a sensible thing to do – but when that happens, we don’t get rebate on that’

      • Deputy Dawg

        There was no need for our contribution to increase. Cameron is the Prime Minister of a sovereign country. He could have said that we will not pay a single penny more. But he didn’t, and wouldn’t. Because this way we get a lose-lose situation while his friends in the EU get a win-win.

        If Cameron was a real Prime Minister, and not merely an EU official controlling an EU region then he would have done what was required by the UK electorate and not what was required by his EU chums.

        The budget will be rejected. There will be a default 2% increase. We will even more contributions. Every one will be happy except the British people. Cameron will be able to blame the EU, as they intend and have arranged. But we will still pay more, as was intended and arranged.

  • 2trueblue

    Great. Cameron did his job, and got a good result. Why is it so difficult to accept that he gave nothing away, unlike Me Bliar?

  • David Lindsay

    He won’t mind a Commons vote of this “triumph”, then, will he?

    • Fergus Pickering

      Up yer bum, Lindsay. Now there’s a bit of reasoned argument for you.

      • David Lindsay

        And I’m sure that you wouldn’t mind a Commons vote on it.

        As an old friend of mine has just put it to me, “The spin on this story is Campbell-esque. The contribution that the UK makes to the EU is going up, yet the amount of EU funding that we will be eligible for will go down. All the media will say it’s a victory. If I had negotiated that sort of deal I would be ashamed to get off the plane.”

        Quite.

        • Chris lancashire

          But it’s not what they say, it’s what they do. The last two Labour leaders went to Brussels and gave it all away. For what? Absolutely nothing. And nobody believes – not even his own backbenchers – that rough, tough Miliband would have come away with anywhere near as good a deal as Cameron has achieved.

          • David Lindsay

            It couldn’t possibly be any worse.

            Oh, well, roll on the Commons vote. That will smoke out the Tory rebels, who, unlike the far less numerous but vastly more effective ones in the Major years, never, ever vote against the Government when the result would be that it might actually be defeated.

        • 2trueblue

          It is going to go up, you noodle, because your friend, Bliar, gave away the rebate.

          • David Lindsay

            Roll on the Commons vote.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              Why?

              Your Millipedal buddies will side with their EU snuggling Cameroonian buddies, just like on the gay marriage vote.

              Ya’ muppet.

              • David Lindsay

                They didn’t the last time that there was a vote on the EU Budget. Every single one of them, every last one, voted for a real-terms cut in the British contribution. Cameron has delivered the opposite. Let him dare to submit that to the House.

                And let us see how many Tory rebels there really are, when now voting on something that actually exists, when their addition of votes to Labour’s would be enough to defeat the Government on it.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  Right. Your Millipedal buddies are “opposed” to the EU, just like they’re “opposed” to gay marriage.

                  You may want to check the votes the other day, son.

                  You couldn’t squeeze a sheet of paper between your Millipeders and their Cameroonian clones.

                  Ya’ muppet.

          • Deputy Dawg

            Its going up because Cameron has agreed that it will go up. He could have said that we would not pay a penny more. He didn’t. He is happy splashing our cash wherever he thinks he can win friends and influence the direction of his future career.

        • HooksLaw

          You are clearly desperate.

          The deal is less than the current one and much less than the proposed one. Our net benefit is more than it would otherwise have been for reasons I have outline above and which are entirely due the the cackhanded deal Blair made.
          Read ’em and weep.

          • Deputy Dawg

            The net payment has gone up. You can’t avoid recognising that. The reasons are irrelevant. Cameron is supposed to be the Prime Minister of the UK. It is in his power to refuse to pay a penny more, as Parliament required him to. He has not done this. He has failed again.

            • David Lindsay

              Precisely. Now that the Commons vote on it.

    • 2trueblue

      Rebate, see below, given away by Bliar.

      • David Lindsay

        It was only ever Thatcher’s way of making her braindead supporters forget that she had signed the Single European Act, a piece of political integration so great that it could never be equalled. To this day, even UKIP talks about “staying in the Single Market”. Dead from the neck up. Apart from the gob, obviously.

        • iviv44

          Don’t so silly. The rebate is perfectly rational in terms of the relative benefit accrued by different countries from CAP. I suppose you would be happy to ignore this imbalance and just pay more to the EU even knowing you are not going to see any of it come back?

        • HooksLaw

          The rebate was negotiated before the single market.
          The single market is the only thing about the EU that makes sense. Thats why both Norway and Switzerland who are not in the EU both pay to be members of it.

  • the viceroy’s gin

    This has been a rather well prepared barrage of Cameroonian swooning today, young lass. I commend you on your coordination and preparation, and well done to all the Speccie bubblesters. Your friends are pleased, no doubt.

    If there’s any mileage to be obtained from this manufactured event, you have surely traveled it, for your Cameroonian friends. But you know, the problem is, shamelessly transparent public relations efforts are, well, transparent and shameless.

    You simply must learn a thing or 2 about spontaneity and sincerity. If you can learn to fake those, you’ve got it made.

    • telemachus

      Let the Cameroons have their glory
      They have not got long

      • perdix

        The government has done more good for the country in two and a half years than Labour did in thirteen.

        • telemachus

          You tell that to the folk who got their new hip in 6 weeks rather than 6 years

          • Andy

            And got MRSA too. Another great Labour achievement.

            • Colonel Mustard

              Zornhau!

            • telemachus

              You will know that the last administration put in place the targets to reduce infections year on year
              And this has achieved the result
              Ask your local hospital

              • an ex-tory voter

                Labour’s targets and their mismanagement almost killed my wife and left her permanently disfigured. Their targets and their mismanagement almost killed my mother in law. Both were victims (in different NHS Trusts) of appalling filthy conditions and “hospital acquired infection”. At the same time, patients in one of Labour’s other successes were even less fortunate. Many of them left “feet first”.
                It is no longer a National Health Service, it has long since become a Notional Health Service.

                Sadly, despite the opportunity afforded him by the Mid Staffs disgrace David Cameron and his government will do precisely nothing. That is nothing, other than a little public hand wringing.

                • Colonel Mustard

                  I hope the starry eyed one marks this comment well and shows a little more humility. His Labour NHS platitudes in the light of personal evidence like this are almost obscene.

                • realfish

                  I am pleased that tonight Hunt has called for a police inquiry into the neglect in Stafford. That should endear him even further to the lefties.

                • HooksLaw

                  Hunt has said the police should investigate. I am not sure he can make the police. Nor can he make the professional bodies investigate. The report itself only came out a few days ago anyway.

                  In fact this report has probably been quite significant for the conservative cause as it takes the pained gloss of sainthood away from the NHS.

              • Ron Todd

                Before no hospital in a western country would have needed targets to reduce the number of patients they were killing with superbugs.

              • Andy

                My ‘local hospital’, built by my family on our land, has just been demolished. The Labour Government closed it.

          • 2trueblue

            Yep, and not such a good deal, the hips were not of great quality. I would rather wait that have a hip that cost less and was toxic.

          • HooksLaw

            You are out of hospital in 2 days now not 2 weeks after a hip,operation. Its better technology which improves treament not political,philosophy.
            Labour threw money at the health service and then in its last manifesto it said it had to make 20 billion of savings. Why did it throw the money at it in the first place?

        • Colonel Mustard

          Touché!

      • disqus_Zyuioiegy0

        They have longer than the 2 ed’s though OOOOPPPP’SSSS sorry mr ball’s i meant you & ed

        • telemachus

          We are not worthy to walk in His shadow

          • Colonel Mustard

            Two little words that reveal your terminal barminess. “We” and “His”.

            • telemachus

              I am proud to accept your approbation on this

              • Colonel Mustard

                Which is another meaningless and vacuous riposte. You remind me of the endless loudspeaker exhortations and slogans parroted from Chinese communist positions in the Korean War. What a good little communist soldier in Labour clothing you are.

                • telemachus

                  I am also proud to accept the likeness to the coming world leaders
                  PS I am truly humbled to listen to personal NHS tragedies and extend sympathies. Using them politically on a personal basis in a blog raises issues beyond my ability to address. I usually decry pomposity but on this occasion feel the necessity and will comment no further on this thread

                • Steve R

                  So how’s your ability to address personal “Welfare” tragedies (e.g., Alison & Diane) being used politically by Ed at PMQ’s last Weds. Or is that OK, because it’s all in pursuit of the single objective – or perhaps they’re not real tragedies, but were dreamt up by the mis-information machine???

            • telemachus

              Accepted

    • perdix

      Had too much of the gin today?

      • Chris lancashire

        Certainly not enough tonic.

    • salieri

      I’m not convinced there’s an agenda to this post, as opposed to a bit of harmless fun. But wouldn’t it have been possible to extend the Camileo analogy a bit and emphasise the theory that the UK (“E pur si muove”) moves in orbit around Europe rather than the other way round? The problem, though, is to decide which is the heresy. Copper Nickers v. Rumpy-Pumpy, in other words.

    • HooksLaw

      Go somewhere else to read then.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        No, I don’t think I will.

        But you may as well go somewhere else as you’re not really welcomed here, I notice. But personally, I think you do wonders for your opposition, so better you stay.

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