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When will the government confront the EU?

4 January 2013

5:33 PM

4 January 2013

5:33 PM

Here is a story that should have got far more attention. A story that perfectly epitomises the corruption and anti-democratic activity of the EU.

In 2010 the group NGO Monitor – which seeks to hold NGOs to account – petitioned the European Commission to reveal details of the NGOs it has funded in recent years.  As readers will know, much of the government-funded NGO business is a racket, and one which pushes highly specific political agendas. And so it has been in recent years with funding from the EU.

In particular, as NGO Monitor has previously shown, there is the little matter of the European Commission funding rabidly anti-Israel groups in Europe and the Middle East.  These include groups which campaign against the region’s only truly free and democratic state, and seek to subvert the government and alter the future of that nation.

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The continuing funding of such groups is exactly what the EC would have revealed had it been forced to reveal the facts. Realizing this, it has fought against transparency with every entity at its disposal.

Now the European Court of Justice has backed the EC’s refusal to release the names of organisations which the EC has funded. In the opinion of the European Court the EC’s right to a ‘privacy’ defence, among other things, means that the details of where the money goes must remain hidden from the mere taxpayers of Europe. Furthermore, NGO Monitor has been instructed to pay the EC’s legal costs.

At a time when we are all looking for ways to save money, what more of a nudge do we need? Here is a completely straightforward case. The EU is using our money for ends it is itself embarrassed by, but spends even more of our money trying to ensure we remain ignorant about how our money is spent.

How much longer is it going to take our government to work out – and act on – the only conclusion to be drawn about this corrupt institution?


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  • rndtechnologies786

    Nice view.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Firdaus-Kanga/1102916649 Firdaus Kanga

    THANK YOU, DOUGLAS. SUPERB-AS ALWAYS! ARE THERE ANY PETITIONS AGAINST LEVESON’S STATUTORY REGULATION OF THE PRESS? IF YOU KNOW OF ANY PLEASE EMAIL ME: FIDOO@HOTMAIL.CO.UK

  • janbn

    I will bet anything that if the NGOs were funding groups in Israel that supported the occupation and the theft of Palestinian homes there would be applause from the NGO Monitor. Because there is funding of groups in Israel that are working to end the 45 year Israeli occupation NGO Monitor is outraged. I think that NGO Monitor supports racism and occupation as well as theft of Palestinian land and resources.

    • DazEng

      blah blah blah

      • janbn

        Daz – your response reveals the depth of your intelligence – as shallow as it can be.

        • DazEng

          Carry on Hitler.
          What arm would you like me to wear my badge again?
          It’s been a while since your kind’s blood thirst was satisfied. Strip every Israeli out of THEIR homeland and it would still never be enough. They are not hated by your kind for what they do but for what they are.
          Whether they concede land, guilt or pay the jizya it will never be enough. They will still be JEWS.
          Jew hating has become fashionable once more thanks to you and yours but it never went out of Fashion in the middle East.
          You must be proud.

  • TheOtherTurnipTaliban

    I hope the EU edifice burns to the ground and then the soil upon which its tax-gorged cloistered fuckwit fascist bureaucrats live is then sewn with salt and the occupants sent to the North Pole where they are sentenced to spend the rest of their days breaking rocks with Ode to Joy playing at 100db on a loop.

    • monsieur_charlie

      I love this post, if you were/are a politician I would vote for you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Warren-Raymond/571222564 Warren Raymond

    You may as well ask ‘when will the gov’t confront the UN’- which is probably never. Both organisations are past their use by dates. They are utterly depraved and self-serving institutions catering to foreign (namely Arab Muslim) interests.

    We need to pull the plug on both of these voracious monsters!

    • beat_the_bush

      The EU caters to Arab Muslim interests? Really? Do go on. I honestly hope someone from the spectator is witnessing the stupidity of those who side with them.

      • Colonel Mustard

        I honestly hope someone from the Spectator is witnessing the duplicity of different people (from the same EUSSR rebuttal unit?) posting under the same pseudonym. What does “beat_the_bush” mean?

        • beat_the_bush

          I think those at the spectator can tell you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist, particularly as you seem to think you are in a game of Cluedo, Colonel Mustard.

      • DazEng

        Tell me again what the largest voting block of the UN is?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-McCarron/100000517046230 Don McCarron

        Your immediate ad hominem does your argument no favours. That is, of course, if you actually have one.

  • Remittance Man

    When will the government confront the EU?

    I’m pretty sure the government hopes it will never have to confront the eu, which explains the constant can kicking, duplicity and issue avoidance it engages in on the subject. To do otherwise would require thought, work, risk taking and the making of decisions – all things politicians and bureaucrats hate.

  • beat_the_bush

    Here’s an article which conforms to wonderful eurosceptic hyperboles, and is stereotypical of the brand of British eurscepticsm. It’s this one on the Spectator. Best bit was “anti-democratic activity of the EU”. It’s guilty of nothing more than what is done by the UK government. Why do British eurosceptics place higher expectations on the EU then they do their own national Government. Oh yes, that’s why. They are are hypocrites.

    • The Wiganer

      Obviously you missed the Local Government Act which requires the government to account for all spending. Or that fact that spending is published on line.
      The UK government accounts are audited each year. How long has it been since the EU’s accounts were signed off?

      • beat_the_bush

        How long has it been since you read the report of the Court of Auditors that you are claiming has not signed it off? The answer is you have never read that report have you? Oh no.

        If you had read the report you would find that although the sum is trivial about 3-5%, it goes missing at the Member State Level not the level of the EU instiutions. The Member States aren’t too enthused (including the UK) about allowing the statistics office and the Court of Auditors the power to investigate their accounts.

        “Last May, the Commission proposed steps to improve accountability via the review of the financial regulation, by which the Member States’ national paying agencies for regional aid would be required to issue management declarations of assurance on EU funds (as is already the case in agriculture), subject to an independent audit. So far, the reaction from Member States has not been enthusiastic” – Myths on the Budget, EC.

        You would also know., but you don’t, that the margin of error that the EU allows for is a lot smaller than that of the UK Treasury. In fact if we use the Treasury’s margin of error rate of around 4-5%, the accounts have all been signed off.

        • Colonel Mustard

          Compare and contrast the command of English in this comment with others here purporting to be from ‘beat_the_bush’. This is a propaganda unit not an individual.

          • Dicky14

            It’s Telemachus’ savant offspring!

            • beat_the_bush

              It’s someone replying to an arguments. He must be related to somone else replying to an argument. Nutter.

            • runny

              Tele”s idiot offspring surely?!

              • Dicky14

                Na, this guy’s the one with all the brains – can do his own shoelaces and everything!

                • runny

                  I had him as a sandal wearer, or user of trainers with Velcro…

          • beat_the_bush

            CONSIRACY THEORY ALERT. EVERYONE GRAB YOUR TIN FOIL HATS.

            Colonel Mustard here is going to say that any arugment he can’t adequately rely to is “propoganda” and thus reject the premise of democratic debate. Lovely.

            • Colonel Mustard

              No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I am saying is that more than one person is posting here as “beat_the_bush”. Why?

              • beat_the_bush

                Actually it is what you are saying. You have invented a conspiracy theory that can’t be either proved or disproved. And you are too stupid to realise it.

                • Colonel Mustard

                  It is not a conspiracy theory. The evidence is empirical for anyone who reads the comments in this thread purporting to be from “beat_the_bush” and compares them. Trying to divert from that FACT with abusive attacks on me will not change that.

                • beat_the_bush

                  I love how you have no idea what empirics is. Also, you are nuts, that is something that can be derived from your comments. It is fact.

                • Colonel Mustard

                  I know what empirics is. I doubt the first “beat_the_bush” poster does though. You don’t appear to know the difference between empirics and empirical evidence. My knowledge that there is more than one of you is acquired by observation of your comments in this thread.

                  So how come the English in your various comments here IS so different? Answer that instead of resorting to the usual abuse that anyone who dissents from your pro-EU “arguments” is nuts.

                • beat_the_bush

                  So how come the English in your various comments here IS so different?

                  Answer this observation which is a load of bollocks.

                • Colonel Mustard

                  And answer there came none.

                • DazEng

                  well played sir. beat the bush…OWNED!

                • beat_the_bush

                  Because I did’t answer a useless observation. When did you stop beating the child who lives on your street?

                  Equally ridiculous question. Equally undeserving of an answer. Unless you are a total moron who has to distract people from the fact that you easily lose arguments, you wouldn’t engage in this. Also, Colonel mustard and DazEng seem awfuly like the same person now.

                • InTHEend

                  Unless you are a moron, it’s quite obvious that beat_the_bush is doing the owning (I believe the term is pwning, for those who use the internet), of you eurosceptic trolls.

                • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-McCarron/100000517046230 Don McCarron

                  This is a europsceptic thread under a eurosceptic article. You are the troll here my friend. Beat the bush is so busy delivering the party line he’s forgetting to tend to his disguise. Aren’t you?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-McCarron/100000517046230 Don McCarron

            Agreed.

    • DazEng

      Brilliant. So according to you, we have no grounds to complain if shafted by the EU as long as our own government also does it? Here’s the secret, we can hold OUR government to account. It’s called a General Election.
      Let me know the next time you and the rest of the Euro snobs will allow us the same courtesy with the EU.

      • beat_the_bush

        European Parliamentary Elections for the wait for it, European Parliament. National Elections, for wait for it, your representatives in the Council. These two institutions elect and scrutinise the Commission, which itself is of course challengable directly through an Ombudsman. Let me know next time you and the europhobes want to look stuff up before you comment.

        • the baracus

          I don’t need to look anything up to know that your a fool.

          • beat_the_bush

            “I don’t need evidence to back up my arguments” – the cries of fanatic.

        • Christian

          We get to elect the people who get to elect the people that exercise the power. That’s your argument that the EU is as accountable as the UK government? Okaaaaaaay……….

          At least you’ve admitted the EU accounts are never signed off as approved by the auditors due to massive corruption and incompetence. You’re getting there, keep it up lad.

          • beat_the_bush

            When was the last time you elected the Home Secretary. Not the MP, who sits in it, of which I am doubtful you belong to her constituency anyway, but the actual position. When? Oh wait, that’s right never. You don’t elect the executive branch of the UK government. They are indirectly appointed by the Prime Minister – who you also don’t elect as he’s chosen by the parties internal political systems. The executive in the UK doesn’t have to be from the Commons, or the Lords.

            I love how you know sweet FA about your own constiutional arrangments. Go sit and spin. Or as you say, keep it up lad.

            • Christian

              Thank you for admitting that we are governed by people who are elected by public ballot and EU commissioners are not voted for by the public. Wasnt so hard was it?

        • DazEng

          Acrobatics with the truth.
          Simple question, do you respect the will of the people or not?

          • beat_the_bush

            So arguments that you can’t reply to are acrobatics with the truth. I see how this works. Why do you reject the premise of democratic debate?

            • DazEng

              Answer my question first child

              • beat_the_bush

                I can’t engage in debate with someone who rejects the premises of it.

                • DazEng

                  Back to the sixth form with you. Your lentil soup awaits!

                • Wessex Man

                  It occurs to me that beat_the_bush is probably some nutty old troll who revels in winding you up, so ignore it whatever “it” is.

                • InTHEend

                  Don’t worry beat_the_bush, anyone can see that the eurosceptics on these pages are obviously the real trolls. Some good comments you made earlier on, and they can’t reply to them – so they inevitably use their usual troll strategy.

                • Wessex Man

                  Yep Colonel Mustard, my observations have proved correct.

                • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-McCarron/100000517046230 Don McCarron

                  If you’re going to use dual identities to fake support for yourself you might want to work on varying your style a bit.

        • jeanshaw

          The EU Parliament consists of over 700 MEPs, all those who come from the UK could oppose any and everything the EU does and it wouldnt make a blind bit of difference to the decisions made in the Parliament.
          The Council of Mininsters meets extremely infrequently and does not scrutinise much of the legislation passed by the EU Parliament , sometimes major issues are discussed everything else goes through without any opposition or criticism.
          The EU Commissioners are appointed on you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours . None are elected and have often been rejected by their home electorates.
          Recently the Nobel Peace prize was for some extremely strange reason given to the EU, the 3 ( I repeat THREE ) Presidents of the EU went to accept the prize , 2 are totally unelected and one can claim some very small measure of democratic selection as he was elected by the EU Parliament , interestingly he was the one who was not allowed to speak at the ceremony

          • Colonel Mustard

            Come on “beat_the_bush”. Answer this one. And see if you can do so without the operatives in your unit becoming abusive or resorting to bad, spittle-flecked anglophobia and bad English!

    • Colonel Mustard

      Your badly phrased interjection on behalf of the EU personifies what is wrong with it. Do you receive a taxpayer funded EU salary to monitor and troll in any anti-EU threads?

      Here is the most interesting bit – having reviewed “your” comments. Most of them are concerned with robustly defending the EU and attacking dissenters with abusive pejoratives but the command of English varies considerably from excellent to poor as above. The pseudonym is the same (and interesting in speculating as to its meaning). The comments do not appear to have been written by the same person.

      This type of online propaganda unit, invariably from the left, is a growing phenomenon, where a cluster or cell use the same pseudonym and park themselves on any relevant thread to post conformist propaganda and abuse dissenters. It is consistent with the ‘McBride smearing’ school of politics. It is cynical, dishonest and if funded by taxpayers a criminal abuse. I hope in the course of time it is fully exposed.

      • beat_the_bush

        CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT.

        Everyone grab your tin foil hats.

        Truly you are absolutely hilarious, and, yet, stereoptypical of a branch of eurosceptism that is so paranoid that anyone who dares speak up for the EU is obviously and employee, or in on this strange conspiracy theory you have formulated. Despite, just how wacky and insane what you have said is, and the fact that you have admitted you are intolereant of any robust arguments defending the EU, which incedetnaly means you reject the premise of democratic argumentation, I can see other deluded eurosceptics support your statement. Way to go – proving all those eurosceptic stereotypes and all.

        • runny

          It is AN employee. You lefty custards. F7 will not help those in your terror cell who lack a basic grasp of our mother tongue. Begone you serpent and agents of the foul construct the EU.

          • beat_the_bush

            Ah. Another eurosceptic who has managed to grasp the concept of pressing F7, yet is unable to construct an argument.

            • Colonel Mustard

              This is not about constructing an argument. It is about deception. You and your colleagues are practicing a deception in this thread by pretending to be an individual when you are in fact at least two different people. Why? Who do you represent and why are you posting pro-EU propaganda by abusing dissenters?

              • beat_the_bush

                You are the most hilarious thing that has happended in a long time. Keep it up. Maybe you will realise that all the things you are criticising are in fact your own actions, after all, when was the last time you responded to an actual argument rather than abusing dissenters of the UKIP gospel?

                • Colonel Mustard

                  Once again you dodge a serious question with abuse. As a result your pro-EUSSR “argument” is totally discredited. The series of comments by your group in this thread show the typical pattern of an online rebuttal outfit. It also demonstrates the innate unpleasantness your organisation adopts towards dissent from EUSSR orthodoxy. You are incapable of responding to challenge without being abusive.

                  PS It is “happened” not “happended”. Your other colleague would have known that.

                • InTHEend

                  Using the “EUSSR” as an argument proves beyond doubt what a total bell end you are.

        • Colonel Mustard

          I think you have just evidenced my suspicions about you. Of course the “conspiracy theory”/”tin-foil hat” cliché is scripted and just a tedious means to head off dissent but otherwise your English construction is completely different from the other “conspiracy theory”/”tin-foil hat” rant by your colleague above.

          I haven’t admitted anything and certainly no intolerance to robustly defending the EU – merely observing that is what you do in almost every comment. So it is not rocket science to presume that you must have a vested interest in it. Your language on the other hand reveals just how intolerant you are to those who disagree with your position on the EU.

          And observing on the basis of empirical evidence is not “conspiracy theory”. Perhaps you can explain the FACT that in this thread some comments from “beat_the_bush” exhibit a very poor command of English whereas others exhibit a perfect command of English? Schizophrenia? Surely not.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-McCarron/100000517046230 Don McCarron

          Is English your second language?

    • Chris

      You can almost see the drool as it hit the page. The British state, a mind-boggling combination of corruption and incompetence, has nothing to teach Brussels, especially about democracy.

  • Bluesman

    The Chordatically Challenged One has said he wants to remain in the EU. Therefore, we can assume that corruption is something the UK government supports. By their company shall ye know them.

    Article 50 needs to be invoked as soon as possible.

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