Should Jews leave Britain?

29 January 2013

3:39 PM

29 January 2013

3:39 PM

Should Jews leave Britain? The question is prompted by this piece written by the Israeli journalist Caroline Glick.

Glick recently came to London to take part in an Intelligence Squared debate. The debate was about Israeli settlements. Glick and Danny Dayan attempted to explain to the London audience that Palestinian rejection rather than Jewish settlement in the West Bank is the primary reason there is still no solution to the Israeli-Palestinian dispute. The debate is now available on Youtube and there you can see the deeply rancorous tone of the discussion. At one point Lord Levy’s son, Daniel Levy, (arguing against Glick and Dayan) has to be almost physically restrained by his own co-debater (William Sieghart). Levy’s frustration appears to come from being pulled up on an allegation he casually makes against Israel for which he turns out to have absolutely no evidence.

But the audience go with him, and go against Glick and Dayan in the final vote by a factor of 5 to 1. As Glick notes in her bitter farewell to London, the audience was so hostile towards her argument that when she even mentioned the matter of Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini and his involvement with the Nazis during World War II she was booed down by the audience. They – having been presented to her as open-minded – turned out to be so close-minded and partial that they would not even hear a historical fact about a Palestinian figure who was an actual Nazi. Glick writes:

‘I was prepared to conduct a civilized debate based on facts and reasoned argumentation. I expected it to be a difficult experience. I was not expecting to be greeted by a well-dressed mob.’


I suppose that there will be those who think Glick’s recommendation to Jews to be over-statement:

‘There is no future for Jews in England.’

But after the events of the last week you do have to wonder.

After all it was a week in which David Ward, the Liberal Democrat MP for Bradford East, used the opportunity provided by Holocaust Memorial Day to punish the Jews for the Holocaust:

‘Having visited Auschwitz twice – once with my family and once with local schools – I am saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza.’

And on the day itself the Sunday Times saw fit to publish a cartoon by the witless Gerald Scarfe showing the Prime Minister of the Jewish state building a wall consisting of bloodied and dying Palestinians.

Much of the comment on these latter cases has focussed on the ‘inappropriateness’ of running an anti-Semitic cartoon or making an anti-Semitic comment so close to Holocaust Memorial Day. I cannot help thinking that this is missing the point. Ward and Scarfe should be excoriated not for their sense of timing but for the fact that they are wrong. Wholly, completely and outright wrong. There is absolutely no connection between, for instance, the liquidation of hundreds of thousands of Jews in the Warsaw ghetto and the treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank. There is absolutely no connection between the situation in Gaza and the herding of six million Jews into concentration camps. The wonder then is not over Scarfe or Ward’s sense of timing, but why at any point in any year they would be so keen to spread lies and to bait Jews by comparing the actions of the Jewish state with those of a genocidal doctrine of Nazism which sought to annihilate the Jews.

Rupert Murdoch has apologised for the Scarfe cartoon and Ward now seems to be reluctantly towing what Liberal Democrat party line can be held. But Glick’s question returns. What sort of future is there in Britain for Jews? I would submit that there is a future. But what is becoming increasingly clear is that the price of that future is that Jews will increasingly be expected to distance themselves from Israel. There is a fair amount of evidence from the Jewish community suggesting that this process is already underway. Once it is complete then those ‘good’ anti-Israel Jews will be able to proclaim victory. But the same force that they encouraged to come for their co-religionists will then just as surely come for them. And then where will they hide?

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  • starsky 67

    Israeli apartheid has no place in the modern world . Israel = Nazis and before anyone calls me anti-Semite (saw it coming) I am a real democratic jew .

  • dgb

    Mr Ward offers criticism of 67 years of Israeli foreign policy and Mr. Murray cynically reframes it as both ‘punishing Jews for the holocaust’ and ‘anti-semantic’. He then goes on with the assumption that a comparison has been made between the holocaust and Israeli foreign policy despite that Mr. Ward made no such comparison. Should the Jews leave the UK, I guess they could take up residency in Gaza – the lawn is being mowed at this moment.

  • TimboX

    First to comment in over two years!! Well, if it was like that then, how much worse must it be for the Jewish community in the UK now!?

    I think one way to help the Jews though is to encourage mass emigration of Jewish people from around the world and invite as many as we can to Britain. This would hopefully help balance out the Islamist problem that we’ve witnessed in the UK. I would much rather have 3 million peaceful law abiding Jews in the UK than 3 million Islamists any day.

    Imagine how wonderful it would be if all the Islamists went home and left us to live in peace and prosperity! After all these years living with the Jewish community we have seen that they love peace and have a fundamentally similar world view and morality, and that they aren’t benefit scroungers, and they actually enrich the UK both financially and culturally, unlike the Islamists.

    Whoever heard of Jews on our streets committing hate crimes, or Jews on our streets forming rape gangs, or Jews beheading people or committing violent acts of terrorism. What we need is a world wide drive to encourage Jews to come here, and for the Islamists to leave.

  • David Webb

    Clearly the Palestinians are reluctant to come to terms, when any terms involve their accepting that the majority of their country has been taken from them. However, I cannot see why the Palestinians don’t opt to support the only solution that would give them back their country: sharing the whole country in a single-state solution. They would be nearly 50% of the population and would benefit from Israel’s advanced economy. If they won’t support that, then it is difficult to help them…

  • AndrewMelville

    Thank you for drawing my attention to the debate.

    However, your account of it is nonsense.

    Yes the Jews should leave Britain – but only on holiday. They should always return from holiday, when they will be welcomed home.

  • Fak_Zakaix


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    The ragheads will thow them out when they take over.

  • Simon Morgan

    Shouldn’t all normal people be leaving Britain? By normal I mean those without a PC or Islamist appeasing bone in their bodies? I don’t think Israel has built enough settlements yet, by a long chalk. I certainly hope they have enough room for me, a poor man seeking asylum from what used to be known as a sane and rational country but which has imploded over the last 5 years under a Labor government (Australia).

  • Safdar Shah

    Anyone who excuses the illegal colonisation of the West Bank by calling Palestinians Nazis deserves to be booed even if the odd crazy king in the dim distant past favoured them. Our own British king was said to be sympathetic as well ! The Palestinians were not responsible for the holocaust and it’s just a smokescreen to hide the truth of what Israel is doing.