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Labour hold in two by-elections but turnout low

16 November 2012

7:26 AM

16 November 2012

7:26 AM

So far, the election results are as expected. Labour has comfortably held Manchester Central and Cardiff South and the Tory candidate has been elected as the Police and Crime Commissioner for Wiltshire.

But turnout has not been good. In Manchester Central it was under 20 percent, the lowest by-election turnout since the war according to the BBC. While in Wiltshire, only 16 percent of people bothered to vote in the Commissioner contest. so far, it looks like yesterday was not Super Thursday but Stay-at-Home Thursday.

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  • Cassandra1963

    Oh you media bigwigs are sooo very smart, you grandly pronounce and share your wisdom with us on a range of issues, but there is a problem and it reflects the decline of the legacy media in general. Not one of you chattering class talking heads has yet challenged the regime about the election almost nobody wanted for police kommissars almost nobody wants, why stage a election before a polling of whether we actually want a change at all and why did the regime not include multiple polls together like and IN/OUT referendum on EU membership and gay marriage? The turnout would have been dramatically higher because these are the things the public desperately wants a say on.

    We get an election we dont want that cost over a hundred million, none of the supposedly brilliant media types have yet drawn the obvious conclusion that turnout was so low because we didnt want it in the first place. It was a waste of money and a transparent method of the politicization of the police, stealing accountability and taking political control of policing is not democracy its the theft of democracy and the media is deaf dumb and blind to it all. The political class has become so removed from the real concerns of the public and so arrogant as to think they can get away with such a grotesque parody of governance.

    • Rhoda Klapp

      You tell ’em Cass. Good rant. Entirely correct, and if things were working right the Spectator would be as angry as you. But, unaccountably, they are not. And they run stupid stories from daft MPs telling us the BBC is somehow to blame for even questioning the legitimacy of this farce.

      • EJ

        I’ve long given up on The Spectator. They have become part of the PR machine for the smug left of centre metropolitan consensus and abandoned all pretence at being a critical publication championing the causes we really care about. Forsyth is one of the worst offenders, so obsequious to the Cameroonians you wonder what’s really going on.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          It’s beyond wondering.

          Re that particular lickspittle, we know.

    • JP

      How arrogant. “We get an election we dont want”, “removed from the real concerns of the public”. Whether I agree with you or not, you don’t speak for me – the word is “I”. That aside, why is every issue interpreted in such a simplistic black and white way these days, not pros and cons? Perhaps it’s just the fact that those who comment most, are those with the most polarized positions.

      • Rhoda Klapp

        Have you been paying attention? Did you notice a demand for these elections, held in this way? The ‘we’ cass is talking about is the 85% of the population who did not bother to vote, or withheld their vote as a protest. I think that is enough to comprise a ‘we’. Perhaps you are convinced by the whining spin I can hear from my TV right now trying to jusify this farrago.

        It was wrong on every level, and the folks have given their verdict.

  • Hexhamgeezer

    Lib/Lab/Con don’t care about the turnout as long as they collectively gather the majority of votes cast. They can then rest easy being in control, along with the MSM, of the boundaries of debate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Dowland/100001205485571 Andy Dowland

    Difficult to really compare the PCC results to the general election especially with the two independent candidates polling well, but on the face of it moderately good news for Tories, Labour and UKIP in Wiltshire and bad news for the Lib Dems.

    First Preference Votes
    Conservative 36.2% (down 11.5% on 2010)
    Labour 20.6% (up 5.3%)
    Liberal Democrats 12.9% (down 17.5%)
    UKIP 9.2% (up 5.2%)
    Others 21.1% (up 18.5%)

    it’s particularly good for Conservatives despite the drop in the share because Colin Skelton, one of the independents who came 3rd seemed to be running stronger in Salisbury so would be taking otherwise Tory votes. If replicated in a general election, Tories would lose the two Swindon seats back to Labour, but win Chippenham off the Lib Dems.

    • Vulture

      It’s not just bad for the Lib Dumbs – this looks catastrophic ( seventeen and a half percent fail).. And I’m not sure how you spin an eleven and a half percent drop as good for Dave’s diminishing barmy army.

      Given that if you put up Dave’s horse with a blue rosette in rural Wilts it would get elected, these results look pretty grim for the Coalition. Yippee!

      More importantly, with a turnout of under 20% overall these new Police people lack all democratic legitimacy and will merely add another useless & costly bureaucratic layer to the burdens we already labour under. People are terminally pissed off with the Westminster shower of crooks and cretins.

      Another brilliantly idiotic idea from Dave – or whichever minion thought it up!

  • telemachus

    The onward march to a charismatic and growth Chancellor

  • telemachus

    The onward march to a charismatic growth Chancellor

    • Hexhamgeezer

      Tit

      • telemachus

        Truth is truth

        • hexton

          Truth is subjectivity; subjectivity is truth.

  • Adrian

    The low turnout is not surprising – the main political parties are totally uninspiring right now and people are disillusioned with all of them.

    • telemachus

      With one charismatic exception

      • Keith

        Yes! Farage! The man who knows how to stick it to the vile Trots.

    • EJ

      With one charismatic exception – Nigel Farage! His opening speech on QT last night was first class. The Tories must really be bricking themselves now. Having contemptuously smeared UKIP so much in the past – the arrogant Cameroonians now face the very real prospect of losing up to half their voters to a party that DOES act upon their concerns (the EU and immigration to name but two).

      • telemachus

        Hey thats my line
        You cannot possibly apply it to the bulging eyed frog

        • EJ

          That’s beneath even you, telemachus.

          • telemachus

            Truth is truth

            • Hexhamgeezer

              Tit

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