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Conservative conference: the Tory attack on Labour

7 October 2012

5:58 PM

7 October 2012

5:58 PM

If the next election is simply a referendum on the government’s performance, I doubt that the Tories will win. But if it is a choice about which party you want to govern Britain, then they are in with a chance. So, today we’ve seen a determined attempt to draw contrasts with Labour. Notice how quick David Cameron was to turn to the question of what Labour would do on Marr.

The most detailed attempted takedown, though, came in William Hague’s speech. He ran through his holy trinity of coalition reforms—economic, education and welfare. Then, said:

“they are all opposed by a Labour Party that in its addiction to borrowing, belief in higher taxes, domination by unions, and hostility to public service reform has shown no visible sign of noticing that while they were ruining this country the world had changed around them. Theirs is a party that would carry on in the same high spending, over-regulating, top-heavy journey to national bankruptcy where Gordon Brown left off.”

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This will be the Tory case against Labour between now and the next election: the world’s changed but Labour hasn’t. They’ll try and paint Ed Miliband’s Labour party as simply the continuation of Gordon Brown’s premiership while saying they are the party prepared to take the tough decisions.

I suspect that this will be effective in chipping away at Labour’s lead. But to deliver a majority, it will have to be combined with a message about what better future the Tories are trying to foster.


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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Paul-Shakespeare/715581221 Andrew Paul Shakespeare

    “Vote Conservative: we’re not as crap as the other lot!”

    What an inspiring campaign that promises to be.

  • 2trueblue

    James, it will be effective if the message is carried out there. A big IF. We live in a country where the media are totally negative about anything the Tories say, and positive about everything Labour utters. The adulation we had last week even here to the drivel that came form Labours conference. I do despair. When you have had 15yrs of the media being unable to analyse what Labour did, said etc you do not expect much.

    • http://owsblog.blogspot.com Span Ows

      Very well said, I do not know what the media are playing at (well you expect it from the Guardian and the BBC but almost every single good advance is getting NO – or the wrong – coverage.

  • In2minds

    Do the Tories want to govern Britain or are they happy for the EU to do it?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Paul-Shakespeare/715581221 Andrew Paul Shakespeare

      I think we all know the answer to that question.

      • Sarge

        Trolling abounds I see……Shakespeare by name – but that’s all

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Paul-Shakespeare/715581221 Andrew Paul Shakespeare

          No trolling. A very pertinent question, and a suspicion that hangs in an awful lot of people’s minds. Or hadn’t you noticed just how well UKIP’s doing at the moment?

          None the less, given the number of U turn’s in the past year, the only thing “cast iron” about Cameron’s team is its determination to live in this reverie whereby the EU happily returns powers to the UK just months after it announced the biggest power grab in its history — and the Tories’ coalition partners delighted to go along with all this, apparently.

          A more realistic scenario would appear to be that the EU will allow a couple of minor things that make no difference at all, Cameron (having ruled out any possibility of quitting the EU) returns home declaring peace in our time, and then does as he’s told by acquiescing.

          If that’s not what Cameron privately plans, he needs to make that a lot clearer than he has until now, because in 2010, shortly after the Lisbon treaty, Cameron had the support of a lot of Eurosceptics (although not all, having decided that, since we couldn’t have a referendum on the Lisbon treaty, we’d have a referendum on nothing at all), and he still failed to win the election.

          In 2015, at the rate he’s going, the Eurosceptic vote will be largely alienated and without any solid economic progress, who exactly is going to vote for him?

          Why do people like you refer to anybody who expresses a contrary opinion on these boards as “trolls”? Do you really want a forum of yes-men, where everybody agrees with each other?

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  • MissLavender

    very weak case.

  • AnotherDaveB

    That’s a pretty weak case.

    “…addiction to borrowing, belief in higher taxes … Theirs is a party that would carry on in the same high spending, over-regulating, top-heavy journey to national bankruptcy where Gordon Brown left off”

    That could describe the parliamentary Conservative Party just as accurately as the parliamentary Labour Party.

  • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

    Did he say anything about immigration, Islam and an In/Out referendum? If he has nothing to say of any consequence on these subjects then everything else is just PR. There is no value in having a growing economy if we English do not have sovereignty in our own country, if our own culture is not protected, and if those who wish to harm us and subvert our society are not excluded.

  • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

    Did he say anything about immigration, Islam and an In/Out referendum? If he has nothing to say of any consequence on these subjects then everything else is just PR. There is no value in having a growing economy if we English do not have sovereignty in our own country, if our own culture is not protected, and if those who wish to harm us and subvert our society are not excluded.

  • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

    Did he say anything about immigration, Islam and an In/Out referendum? If he has nothing to say of any consequence on these subjects then everything else is just PR. There is no value in having a growing economy if we English do not have sovereignty in our own country, if our own culture is not protected, and if those who wish to harm us and subvert our society are not excluded.

    • telemachus

      For Jesus Christ’s sake
      These trivia matter little to the pensioner struggling to heat their homes
      Matter not a jot to the poor social housing tenant who cannot shoe her kids
      Matter zilch to the unemployed twenty one year old who have never had a job
      Last week we began to hear how to help

      • 2trueblue

        As teenage unemployment rocketed under Liebore that is not something that can be laid solely at the coalition. Even David Milliband had the honesty to state the take the blame there. Liebore presided over a runaway ‘buy to let’ in the private sector that deprives the first time buyers of getting their foothold on the housing market.

        • telemachus

          Yes but a caring party learns

          • MikeBrighton

            If Labour was caring why did they kill off the 10% starting rate of tax, raising tax on the lowest paid and most vulnerable members of society…and why did they engourage mass immigration creating mass employment competiton for those same low paid?

            I guess you really care sat in your millionaires house in North London having being brought up in huge affluence as Labour royalty and never had to do a real days work in your life.

            • telemachus

              It is precisely because Ed was privileged that his defence of the underprivileged is laudable.

              • Sarge

                Sorry -yer can’t keep claiming 2012 is year zero. Ed helped create the very problem he is going to solve,or so he says. PS is it true Ed remortgaged his home with Barclays? The same Barclays he wanted tarring and feathering earlier this year?

                PS how much is he worth? 2/3/4/5 million quid?

                Like you, he has not the slightest idea of what underprivileged is.Talk remains cheap -keep on devaluing it.

                A typo in there I believe? Laudable should read laughable.

                Shut the door on yer way out.

      • 2trueblue

        It was under Labour that youth unemployment rocketed, David Milliband had the honesty to own up to it. The pensioner can thank Labour for signing us up to mad caps on carbon emission levels that have not helped us to have a choice of what fuels best fit us.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Paul-Shakespeare/715581221 Andrew Paul Shakespeare

        “These trivia matter little to the pensioner struggling to heat their homes”

        How many pensioners’ homes could be heated with the £50 million a day that the EU costs us?

        How big a tax cut would £50 million a day fund? Enough to enable the social housing tenant to shoe her kids?

        It’s not trivia.

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