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The EU wins the Nobel Peace Prize

12 October 2012

12 October 2012

Today is not April the first; but the European Union has indeed won the Nobel Peace Prize.

It is a bizarre decision given what is going on in Europe right now. Watching the reaction of the Greek crowd to Angela Merkel on her visit there this week, it was hard not to worry that the European project was now a threat to peace and stability on the continent.

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To be sure, France and Germany have not gone to war again since 1945. But to chalk that up solely to the European Union is a profound misreading of history.

I suspect that the decision to award the prize to the European Union was a product of the desire of the Norwegian elite to rebuke the people there for not wanting to join the European Union. They are raging against the dying of the light.


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  • Terence Hale

    Hi,

    “Smørrebrød, Smørrebrød, røm, pøm, pøm, pøm!” Alfred Nobel.
    Stipulated in his will the Nobel the prize must be awarded to an individual and
    living. His will is the basis of the Noble prize. The Nobel peace prize unfortunately
    has been politically motivated in that an institution that is not alive has
    been awarded the prize, the EU. This is wrong and degrades the judgment of the
    Nobel committee.
    Terence Hale

  • David B

    I suppose that if they don’t do it now they might not get the chance again

  • Hexhamgeezer

    Obama wins the peace Prize for not being George Bush and now the EU wins it for a coal and steel trading club morphing into an Orwellian joke.

    And the Eurotits all cheer.

  • dalai guevara

    Finally – after the Gore and Obama gaffes, this is fabulous news. Now some chaps in the UK have had it delivered to them in writing that ‘unelected’ means Queen and hereditary peers, not MEP representation.

    • che the lama

      Tit

      • dalai guevara

        Hexhamgeezer, are you multitasking?

        • Hexhamgeezer

          I can multiply but not, alas, multitask.

          • dalai guevara

            you’re clearly not…a girl

  • Hugh

    Maybe they just reckoned the EU could use the prize money. Every little helps.

  • David Lindsay

    Honestly, where *does* this absurd, peculiarly British fantasy come from, that the
    EU is “Socialist”? It only works even here by ignoring the real debate in this country over Europe, such as the media blackout around the No2EU list at the last European Elections, including the heavy editing of Question
    Time
    when an audience member dared to mention it.

    This goes back at least 20 years, to the total neglect of the three times as many Labour MP as Conservatives who voted against Maastricht (the party line was to abstain, no one broke that to vote in favour, but 66 voted against), including, in Bryan Gould, the only resignation from either front bench in order to do so.

    Newspapers such as this one crowed over the Danish No vote to Maastricht but made no mention of the strongly left-wing character of the No campaign, as also of the lobby
    that still keeps Norway out of the EU (which is what this award is really all about), of the one that swung the French referendum against the EU Constitution (nor would figures of the traditional Gaullist and non-Guallist French Rights qualify as anything other than “Marxists” on here), and of the one that did the ground work to deliver the first Irish No vote to Lisbon.

    When half a dozen Conservatives lost the Whip for abstaining rather than supporting an
    increase in British contributions to the EU, the entire media ignored completely the 44 Labour MPs who voted against it; again, every other Labour MP abstained, whereas every other Conservative voted in favour.

    The 1997 Election kept Britain out of the euro by replacing Ken Clarke with Gordon Brown; George Osborne is now effectively Clarke’s office boy, but he is being shadowed by the staunchly Eurosceptical Ed Balls. Media mentions? Nil. Just as there are no mentions of the fact that Labour, the only party ever to have held a referendum on the EU, is the only party open to holding one now, or in 2015 when it will be given the chance.

    Instead, we still see of the utterly fantastical depiction of Margaret Thatcher of the Single European Act, against which voted every Labour MP without exception, as some sort of Eurosceptical heroine. What next, that she was a Unionist, or a social conservative,
    or a supporter of grammar schools?

    • james102

      Because our political culture does not really have a label
      for the continental European one.

      • David Lindsay

        For the Continental European what?

        It is not as if either of the two main forces opposed to the EU do not exist in Britain, including within the British parliamentary process. We have the Left, complete with close ties to left-wing anti-EU across Europe.

        And in both main parties, we have figures and tendencies very similar to traditional Gaullism and to similar schools of thought elsewhere, such as the Father of the House of Commons, a Keynesian and pro-Commonwealth Tory who on both counts duly opposed all three of Thatcherism, Maastricht and neoconservatism. Peter Walker was also much like that (even if he did manage to accommodate himself to Thatcher, more or less), and his son, elected for the first time and for the same seat last time, is of the same mind. So this is not a thing of the past. In either party.

        But don’t try and tell the media any of this. Either lazy or liars, if not both. By no means only on this issue.

        • james102

          I mean that continental Europe has a political culture that
          differs so much from the Anglosphere that when we try to impose our labels on it they mislead.

          As we have recently been considering the First World War it
          is interesting to consider the Kaiser’s views on capitalism: not a fan, yet hardly a socialist!

          • dalai guevara

            Correct,
            1- only in Britain did we get the guillotine out first. -?
            2- only in Britain do we have an antiquated left/right system. -?
            3- only in Britain are we the people in control of our banks. -?
            4- only in Britain was Bliar a socialist and Cameron a conservative

          • David Lindsay

            There is no Anglosphere. There is Britain. There is America. And there are territories where the two actively compete for cultural and political influence, notably in Canada, in Australia, in New Zealand, and in the West Indies. But never the twain shall meet. They are quite, quite incommensurable.

            • bloughmee

              What “cultural and political influence” is Britain competitive in? Spreading sharia? Global warmingism on-tap? What, exactly?

        • Russell

          I have to ashamedly admit to marking all your posts down now without even bothering to read more than the first line. Same for telemachus, only with his I don’t even bother reading the first line.
          The consistency you have for posting tripe and making it obvious you are a plant from labour makes this so.

      • Dimoto

        Correct.

    • Vulture

      David Lindsay: poet of the utterly irrelevant, the inconsequential and the frankly bizarre.

    • David B

      Of course most of labour’s opposition to the EU happens when in opposition. When they had the rains of power the voted yes to everything and voted against referendum.

      The support for a referendum is purely a position strategy in opposition. There is no way the pro eu ed Milliband will allow if he ever gets to be PM

  • Charlie the Chump

    Something called NATO and the US of A might have helped a bit?

    • David Lindsay

      Hardly!

      • Curnonsky

        So the Liberal Democrats are pro-NATO and pro-neocon?

        • David Lindsay

          They are pro-NATO, yes. And they cheered on all the neocon adventures before and after Iraq, when their position was rather opportunistic.

  • john

    Great stuff. The brain-dead Norwegian elites do it again!

  • Wilhelm

    Peter Sutherland Goldman Sachs banker, head of UN immigration says

    ” The EU should do its best to undermine national homogeniety ”,

    the bit when he says it is 6.00 minutes to 7.14. Very disturbing.

    kitmantv.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/peter-sutherland-of-goldman-sachs-eu.html?utm_source=BP_recent

  • anyfool

    Another million for the EU kleptocrats to steal. the race is on for who wins the money, second prize the medal.

  • Wilhelm

    ” It’s coming, leaked plan for EUSSR internet censorship ” from Kitman blog

    kitmantv.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/its-coming-leaked-document-on-eu.html

  • ToryOAP

    This is beyond parody. Kafka would have thrown his pen down in disbelief. Orwell would have shot himself in disgust and Swift would have given up satire. The circle is complete and we should all just sit and wait for the end; the madmen who rule us are declared sane and we the ruled are all crazy..

    • 3Para

      Post of the year.

    • Tron

      I laughed out loud when I heard this news.
      Well said, ToryOAP , well said.

    • telemachus associates

      Nigel Farage, I understand may not approve
      “far from leading to peace, the EU was divisive and leading
      to more violence.”
      Do you think he may be right

      • ToryOAP

        Whats up Jimmy? The multiple personalities getting to you? Disgusting little perv troll.

      • dalai guevara

        Hahaha Farange – that chap could not even run his own constituency…if he had one. Seen it many times before, he’s a real doer kinda guy. More comedians, please. Fair deuce – it’s what the disillusioned far right need right now. Compassion.

      • dalai guevara

        Hahaha Farange – that chap could not even run his own constituency…if he had one. Seen it many times before, he’s a real doer kinda guy. More comedians, please. Fair deuce – it’s what the disillusioned far right need right now. Compassion.

    • Trev

      Sweet.

  • Wilhelm

    I thought NATO kept the peace.

    • David Lindsay

      Tell them that in Afghanistan, or in what used to be Yugoslavia.

      • CJ

        NATO kept the peace when it was run by political Titan’s like Manfred Woerner. A succession of political midgets (think George Robertson) have done nothing but weaken and dilute its purpose, cohesion and effectiveness.

  • foxoles

    ‘War is Peace’
    ‘Freedom is Slavery’
    ‘Ignorance is Strength’

    • Charlie the Chump

      Norway is irrelevant

    • dalai guevara

      The Moon Under Water is a pub chain.
      Big Brother is a TV show.
      The future is of your own making.

      • che the lama

        Trust you to stand up for tyranny.

        • dalai guevara

          Correct, I still stand up for Queen and hereditary peers – would I not go to prison if I wouldn’t?

          • che the lama

            Is there cheese on your planet?

            • dalai guevara

              Cambozola – it’s a fiscal blend of…

  • james102

    I just hope they don’t try to hijack the centenary of the First
    World War to peddle the ‘EU has stooped war in Europe ‘nonsense.

    Europe has an aged population which is crashing. Wars are
    fought by countries with a lot of young men available to do the killing and dying.

    Can you imagine the health and safety and human rights
    assessments we would need to carry out before going over the top at a modern
    Battle of the Somme?

    They have just arrested some Royal Marines because they may
    have killed someone in Afghanistan…is it true the German army can only
    operate in areas considered safe?

    • john

      Yes, the German army are no longer allowed to carry weapons, so the area they operate in must therefore be ‘safe’.

      • Charlie the Chump

        Also no night ops are permitted I believe

        • james102

          I suppose a rerun Somme could involve paintballs, in
          daylight of course, and everyone wearing appropriate safety equipment.

          The forces would have to have proportionate numbers of women,
          the disabled and ethnic minorities.

        • anyfool

          The night ops. are not permitted because they are drunk all the time. who can blame them, they need something to forget the shame they feel when other troops laugh at them.

    • Dimoto

      So murder by soldiers is fine in your world ?

  • Vulture

    The following have been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize:
    1) Adolf Hitler.
    2) Josef Stalin.
    3) Gordon Brown
    4) The Black Death.
    5) The EU
    And the winner is…(struggles to open envelope)… the EU!
    So if Norway thinks the EU is so bloody wonderful, how come they have voted ( twice) to reject it?
    Must be some sort of elaborate Scandinavian joke which no-one else gets.

    • james102

      The Black Death reduced Europe’s population so probably did
      lead to less warfare.

      I think there should be a recount.

  • The Oncoming Storm

    If the Novel Committee really wanted to honour those who “cemented peace in Europe,” then they should have split the award between the USAF’s Strategic Air Command and the USSR’s Strategic Rocket Forces.

    • The Oncoming Storm

      That should be “Nobel Committee,” Damn you autospell!

      • james102

        Spelling or not you are right.

  • Saddleworth

    Brilliant! A Peace Prize for organisation with no basic faith in democracy. Elitism, political cronyism and the utmost contempt for electorates. Is there a sick bag big enough for the vomit that this will produce.

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