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Labour conference: Ed Miliband’s speech boosts his ratings

4 October 2012

3:42 PM

4 October 2012

3:42 PM

Labour leave Manchester today with a 14-point poll lead over the Conservatives, according to YouGov. That’s their biggest lead in a YouGov poll since June, although one last week showed them 13 points ahead, so we shouldn’t rush into declaring a big conference bounce for them.

It does seem, though, that Ed Miliband himself did get a decent boost out of his hour-long speech on Tuesday. 10 per cent of people say they watched or listened to the whole thing, and a further 49 per cent say they’ve seen or heard reports about it. And it seems Ed did manage to change at least a few of their minds about him. 31 per cent now say he ‘would be up to the job of Prime Minister’ — still not a great number, but an improvement on the 25 per cent who said so last week. Similarly, the percentage saying he ‘has made it clear what he stands for’ is up from 24 to 36.

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On the question of who would make the best Prime Minister, he still trails David Cameron, 31-27. The gap appears to have narrowed — from 33-25 a fortnight ago — but the changes are within the margin of error so we can’t say whether his speech has made a difference there.

And if the main aim of Miliband’s speech was to seize the ‘One Nation’ label for Labour, he seems to have been reasonably successful. 28 per cent say Labour best fits the description of being the ‘One Nation’ party, against just 14 per cent for the Tories. But 39 per cent say none of the three main parties fit the label.

So, Miliband does seem to have improved his image at least a little with his speech, but he still has a way to go. It’ll be worth watching other measures, such as his approval ratings, to see what bounce he gets (if any) and how long it lasts. And, of course, we’ll have to see what impact Cameron can create with his own speech next week.

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  • Fergus Pickering

    Hmm

  • William Blakes Ghost

    And if the main aim of Miliband’s speech was to seize the ‘One Nation’
    label for Labour, he seems to have been reasonably successful. 28 per
    cent say Labour best fits the description of being the ‘One Nation’
    party

    Are you having a laugh or being utterly moronic? 72% of the electorate consider it not to be the case. Thats almost three quarters of the electorate; a majority of 3 to 1 agasinst his delusional assertion. Almost a third of those who supposedly would vote for Labour don’t believe it.

    What sort of drivel is this? Labour represents one nation Britishness about as much as the 1998 Devolution Bill did or the Lisbon Treaty. There is no party so intent on dividing and belittling factions( often with the most dishonest, abusive and insulting propaganda ~ Bankers, the Libdems, Eurosceptics, those of a conservative leaning within the country) as Labour..

    Its just another Labour Lie. Shish where do they get them from?

  • Olaf

    Who are the people who make up this 10%? Most normal people would beat Usain Bolt to the remote control to change the channel to get away from any political broadcast.

  • echo34

    And the the New Statespector is born…

  • echo34

    And the the New Statespector is born…

  • Adrian

    I find it bizarre that people think Miliband is some how just like them. He is merely ‘well off’ rather than ‘very well off’ (Cameron). I find it even stranger that people are willing to turn back to Labour so easily. What exactly has changed with the party since 2010?

    A double team of Miliband and Balls is ahead. Fantastic

  • Adrian

    I find it bizarre that people think Miliband is some how just like them. He is merely ‘well off’ rather than ‘very well off’ (Cameron). I find it even stranger that people are willing to turn back to Labour so easily. What exactly has changed with the party since 2010?

    A double team of Miliband and Balls is ahead. Fantastic

  • Hexhamgeezer

    Jones the Obamoid lets rip another cloud of excoriating analysis.

  • Robin of Bagshot

    Well since we had for thirteen years of the humbug of Brown-Blair and their largely ghastly crew and enough people voted for them to put them in power I suppose a new display of even more simplistic cant is seen by the rump of those years as a worthwhile exercise.

  • John_Page

    10 per cent of people say they watched or listened to the whole thing

    This beggars belief, doesn’t it?

  • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

    If that were true then it would show that the urban poor are very stupid. All taxation is theft. Keeping that which is already your own is not a payrise under any circumstances.

    • telemachus

      Sorry that is not how society or the human psyche works
      The rich have always considered the poor stupid which is why we have revolutions
      If it were not for the fact that your type were not to be dead and buried in 2015 in a balot there could be one here

      • Nicholas

        So what did New Labour do for the “urban poor” from 1997-2010? Thirteen years of power with an overwhelming parliamentary majority and plenty of money. And yet we still have “urban poor”.

        Labour, a guaranteed crock of shit. Their advocates peddling boastful lies and hollow triumphalism.

        • telemachus

          Your answer is in the “New Labour”
          A grip began when Blair went unfortunately terminated by Subprime

          • Nicholas

            Pah! A clever way to avoid responsibility by re-inventing your party after each disastrous term. The present cabinet were part of that regime – thick as thieves in every sense. Dishonest gangsters peddling lies – like you.

            • telemachus

              I always thought that John Major and Margaret Thatcher ran identical administrations!!
              Blair was closer to Thatcher
              The true believers had only just begun when subprime hit

            • telemachus

              I always thought that John Major and Margaret Thatcher ran identical administrations!!
              Blair was closer to Thatcher
              The true believers had only just begun when subprime hit

            • toni

              re-invent the party?
              What, like Dave tried desperately to de-contaminate the nasty party only to be continually undermined by true tories like you (and your ally UR presently absent but no doubt will be back posing under yet another name) spitting poisonous venom on a public forum?
              I almost feel sorry for the poor mug with folk like you advertising for him.

          • Nicholas

            Pah! A clever way to avoid responsibility by re-inventing your party after each disastrous term. The present cabinet were part of that regime – thick as thieves in every sense. Dishonest gangsters peddling lies – like you.

  • telemachus

    If what you say is true you could achieve your end by sending him to gloucestershire

  • Nicholas

    Stalking again I see.

  • 2trueblue

    Ah, its all about the ‘narrative’. Created by the idiot journalists and the media in this country. What is wrong with these people? Just like we had the ‘narrative’ over 13yrs of Liebore in power, the great leap forward that they created……. into debt, falling standards in most areas, (including the most corrupt parliament), the massive growth in youth unemployment, single parenthood, (including teenage pregnancies) The list is long and all easily forgotten, all Millipede has to do is make a loving speech telling us that ‘he is a regular kind of guy, loves his mom,’ and it is all OK. He is going to deliver us from all the mess, with, of course, his mate Balls. Grow up, get real and look at the facts, this is not LA LA Land, it is our reality and you want them to have another go.

  • dorothy wilson

    But on the World at One this lunchtime he still would not accept any culpability for the mess in which Labour left the economy. It was, of course, all the fault of the global financial crisis.

  • dorothy wilson

    But on the World at One this lunchtime he still would not accept any culpability for the mess in which Labour left the economy. It was, of course, all the fault of the global financial crisis.

  • Charlie the Chump

    Milliband: all hot air and no policy

    • dorothy wilson

      The Americans have a slightly choicer phrase for that!

  • RightChuck

    Surely unwise to take any of the Yougov polling very seriously – their daily polls veer all over the place for no apparent reason. The only consistency is in the fact of a Labour lead; the margin is variable beyond explanation. I tend to discount any short term movement in the figures for exactly that reason. The trend over time will be more informative.

    • Nicholas

      YouGov polls always favour Labour and subscribe to the notion that favourable polling can increase the lead. Kellner, spouse of Baroness Ashton and an integral part of Labour’s propaganda machine.

    • Nicholas

      YouGov polls always favour Labour and subscribe to the notion that favourable polling can increase the lead. Kellner, spouse of Baroness Ashton and an integral part of Labour’s propaganda machine.

  • Nicholas

    Cock.

  • Jebediah

    Another puff piece from the Spectator. Who has bought who off I wonder, and with what. Despicable.

    • telemachus

      To add to your displeasure the picture says it all
      Sincerity
      Contrast that with the Brooks loving grin of Cameron

      • dorothy wilson

        Actually in this picture he looks as though he is about to burst into tears.

        • Daniel Maris

          He looks like a Conehead! LOL

      • dorothy wilson

        Actually in this picture he looks as though he is about to burst into tears.

      • Jebediah

        Toadymuncher,

        I’m surprised you don’t get ill licking all that spittle.

    • telemachus

      To add to your displeasure the picture says it all
      Sincerity
      Contrast that with the Brooks loving grin of Cameron

  • Tarka the Rotter

    How on earth can people fall for his one-nation sentimental I love my mummy tear-jerking guff? How can they possibly see Labour as a credible government ? AAAAAaaaaaargh!

    • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

      Because the media, including the Spectator now, is constantly telling people just this message, and eventually many people come to believe that it is the truth, as intended.

      • Daniel Maris

        Have things changed that much? Disraeli coined the phrase “One Nation”.

        He was also the man who gave us Victoria as Empress of India (were the Indians part of our nation?) and the following quote:

        ” Race is everything; there is no other truth.”

        One might wonder at how sincere was Disraeli belief in “One Nation”.

        A nation is less than an Empire and more than a race.

        • Andy Car Park

          Maris maris
          Phylum: bore
          Genus: thumping

        • Andy Car Park

          Maris maris
          Phylum: bore
          Genus: thumping

    • telemachus

      Because it is sincere and we are fed up of the tax-cuts-for-the-rich Tories.
      We leave the sublime pages of Coffee House we have had since Sunday for the vomitogenic column inches that will spew out of Birmingham
      Gladly they are leaving Thrasher Mitchell at home
      But equally odious Osbourne, May and Gove will be there.
      Gladly folk now hate them so much that Fraser and Gang will not compromise their credibility with even faint praise

      • dorothy wilson

        But even after the cut to 45% the top rate of tax will be 5% higher than it was for 12 years and 11 months of Labour’s time in office. So why weren’t you so vocal about Labour’s tax regime benefiting the rich?

        • telemachus

          If you had not noticed they were boom times
          In times of austerity Osbourne gives us the granny tax and increases the soak-the-poor flat rate taxes gives us 20% VAT and then the 5% pay rise for the rich
          A true on nation policy

          • Nicholas

            No, the socialists gave us “the granny tax”. It is an invention to discredit just like the £40,000 cheque. There is reality and then there are the things socialists make up.

            • telemachus

              The Tower Hamlets poor see only that the rich are 40,000 better off and they cannot even pay their rent
              We all now believe that there should be some fairness

          • Nicholas

            No, the socialists gave us “the granny tax”. It is an invention to discredit just like the £40,000 cheque. There is reality and then there are the things socialists make up.

      • dorothy wilson

        But even after the cut to 45% the top rate of tax will be 5% higher than it was for 12 years and 11 months of Labour’s time in office. So why weren’t you so vocal about Labour’s tax regime benefiting the rich?

    • Adrian Drummond

      They are not very bright?

    • Adrian Drummond

      They are not very bright?

    • dalai guevara

      Maybe it is not about pushing for yet another change in government, but just about upping our game?

      When times remain bleak for many for over five years now, and the following is put on the table:

      – tax breaks for millionaires
      – higher education fees but no reasonable apprenticeship provision to catch those falling thru’ the net
      – no affordable homes provision, although the pressure is on locally
      – 16h work benefits hurdle remaining in place, making extra legal income impossible
      – much talk about Europe, but no action
      – much talk about banking regulation, but no action
      – much talk about infrastructure, but no action
      – much talk about airport capacity, but no action

      then someone (I do not care who) has got to get out the biggest wooden spoon they can find and stir this u-turn pot.

      • Hexhamgeezer

        Tit

        • dalai guevara

          Haha – cracker jack is on the loose again, fabulous!

      • Hexhamgeezer

        . Tit

      • Nicholas

        Nah, higher education fees for some only. One nation but with New Labour’s devolution “solution”.

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