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David Cameron’s big European week

15 October 2012

15 October 2012

David Cameron’s plan for this autumn was to largely avoid the topic of Europe at his party’s conference, then to focus on the issue later in the year. It’s only a few days since the Tories gathered in Birmingham, and the Prime Minister is already facing a big week on Europe.

Home Secretary Theresa May will kick things off by announcing today that she wants Britain to opt out of more than 130 European Union measures on law and order, including the European Arrest Warrant. The opt-out itself, which the Home Secretary is expected to say Britain is ‘minded’ to do, is not the tricky bit: it’s which measures to then opt back into. The Liberal Democrats will be keen for the government to return to many more measures than Conservative ministers are prepared to do, and in turn ministers may be minded to opt back in to more measures than eurosceptic Tory backbenchers would like. There will also be a row with the police over the European Arrest Warrant: it was only a few weeks ago, after all, that the warrant was used to apprehend teacher Jeremy Forrest in France with schoolgirl Megan Stammers. The government wants a warrant with reduced powers.

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Later in the week, Cameron will attend a dinner of the 27 EU leaders in Brussels to discuss the new banking rules for the eurozone. At this dinner, the Prime Minister will be looking for safeguards for the single market, which celebrates its 20th anniversary this week.

But now that Parliament is back, MPs will be waiting for more detail on what the Prime Minister’s negotiating position is with the EU. The Mail reports that eight cabinet ministers want him to threaten to leave the union if he doesn’t get what he wants over the next few months. And this week will also see the first meeting of the all-party parliamentary group for an EU referendum.


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  • Hexhamgeezer

    Shouldn’t that read ‘David Cameron’s plan for this decade/lifetime was to largely avoid the topic of Europe’

  • In2minds

    Off goes Dave with advice from Ken Clarke ringing in his ears!

    • James102

      Does Clarke give advice? He is one of the few people who probably thinks Cameron is a pleb.

    • James102

      Does Clarke give advice? He is one of the few people who probably thinks Cameron is a pleb.

  • http://www.facebook.com/miles.robinson.54 Miles Robinson

    Isabel, why did you not also mention that the
    government and the European Commission Representation in the UK are jointly
    organising a major half-day conference on the 20th anniversary of the Single
    Market at Lancaster House in London on this Thursday at 2pm.

    The British Patriots Society (http://www.britishpatriotssociety.info/)
    has organised a peaceful protest to show them exactly what we think of the UK’s
    membership of the EU and the effect of its disastrous policies across its
    member states.

    Here is an opportunity for all Coffee-housers who have
    been ranting against our government’s consistently pro-EU stance to make their
    voice heard. We convene at 1 pm. BE THERE.

    • telemachus

      what the hell has happened, letting these pernicious folk advertise here

  • Widmerpool

    Go for it Dave!
    Ignore what the naysayers and snipers on this site say!
    Remember what your learnt on the Playing Fields at School
    It stood the Iron Duke well outside Brussels all those years ago
    Good luck with another damn close run thing and a good result for Blighty!

    • TomTom

      Why do journos use “learnt” as the past participle of “learn” instead of “learned” as it should be. Also check your facts – which suggests you are a journ since you don’t…….what Wellington said, while passing an Eton cricket match many decades
      later, was, “There grows the stuff that won Waterloo”.

      • James102

        You would have thought he would have been gracious enough to mention Marshal Ney.

      • chevron

        “Learned” and “learnt” are both acceptable in the UK, although -ed endings for past participles are extremely common and are becoming more so from US influences (yes, here is another oppotunity for linguistic jingoism!).

        The OED lists both forms. Fowler’s (the original one) recommends specifically that “learnt” is used in preference, due to the adjective “learnéd”. -t is the older, original form.

        Knealed or knelt, I ask you ? :)

      • chevron

        “Learned” and “learnt” are both acceptable in the UK, although -ed endings for past participles are extremely common and are becoming more so from US influences (yes, here is another oppotunity for linguistic jingoism!).

        The OED lists both forms. Fowler’s (the original one) recommends specifically that “learnt” is used in preference, due to the adjective “learnéd”. -t is the older, original form.

        Knealed or knelt, I ask you ? :)

        • chevron

          or “kneeled” indeed. Yay for typos and lack of edit.

      • Widmerpool

        @TomTom aka Dear Pedant
        I am surprised you did not pick me up on the “damn close run thing” supposedly said by the Iron Duke!
        From what I remember he is actually quoted as saying something much more politically incorrect about his victory!
        Good for him and good luck Dave!

  • TomTom

    Forget this Little Boy who is out of his depth. This is Bone-breaking Time in Europe as the Ideological Dreams of a post-Soviet Empire collide with the limitations of Democratic Mandates. Cameron is too jejeune to see the faultlines and British foreign policy too slavishly US-oriented to see that Europe is shifting and Russia is now a player. Putin’s Russia is a new dimension that these Westminister politicians cannot see because they do not think in terms of Industry and Raw Materials. Germany faces power cuts this winter because of Windmill Politics and must look to FORCING utilities to burn coal or importing more gas from Russia. Britain is wedded to the lunacy of a gas pipeline from Qatar running through the new Ottoman Satrapy of Syria to provide a revenue stream to Turkey independent of Gazprom.

    Europe is splitting into North-East Axis and Britain linked to a US-Middle East Axis

    • Fergus Pickering

      What is this word ‘jejeune’ and what does it mean? I have never heard of it and I don’t think it exists. Why not use words you do know the meaning of?

      • TomTom

        Professions of Ignorance are your forte Fergus, but you must drop the Orwellian “Ignorance is Strength” approach

        • dalai guevara

          puppalicious perhaps?

    • dalai guevara

      another u-turn coming up then?

    • HooksLaw

      Like you know a blind thing about anything.
      This pipeline has been touted since 2002 and is still a pipe dream. But if commercial interests want to build it – so what?

      • TomTom

        Using SAS and SBS troops in Syria is hardly commercial. Nor is funnelling Libyan Islamicists across the Turkish frontier. Antagonising Russia and Iran because Turkey thinks it has a NATO guarantee is a bit like Austria-Hungary in 1914

    • itdoesntaddup

      I don’t think you ever did O level geography.

  • Vulture

    Anyone who believes anything that Cameron may mouth on Europe needs to take a reality check.

    This is the man who calls UKIP ‘racists fruitcakes and loonies’ for daring to question the subsuming of our free nation into an undemocratic superstate; who whips his MPs to vote against even discussing our future with Europe; and who gave a ‘cast iron guarantee’ that we would have a referendum on the Lisbon treaty ( We’re still waiting for it – even though there seems to be no problem in giving the Scots a referendum on independence, we are not allowed one on our independence.)

    Cameron, in short, is just the latest liar put in place by his real bosses : not the people who elected him but those who pull his strings from Brussels. All this stuff about dealing with Europe is fluff, smoke and mirrors to deceive the gullible yet again.

    UKIP, with all their manifest flaws, are the only party campaigning consistently for our rights, our freedoms and to reclaim the democracy that the other parties have junked.

    • HooksLaw

      Usual drivel.

      • Victor

        Well thought out riposte….

      • telemachus

        Hook
        Exactly my point
        At every opportunity they return to drivel of Euroscepticism

        • dalai guevara

          You could even run a business like that – sponge EU funds to fund your hissy fits. Why did I not think of that one first?

    • telemachus

      “There will also be a row with the police over the European Arrest Warrant”
      Neither Dave or Thrasher worry about this
      Dave is positioning us as little englanders drawing up the drawbridge and precluding co-operation with our historic continental allies as well as shutting out the flow of talent from elsewhere

      • Hexhamgeezer

        Tit

    • telemachus

      “UKIP ‘racists fruitcakes and loonies’ ”
      Is this not one of the more rational of his utterances

  • http://twitter.com/djmarkm Mark M

    Finally !

  • http://twitter.com/djmarkm Mark M

    Finally !

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