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The era of Abu Hamza is now finally drawing to a close

25 September 2012

5:45 PM

25 September 2012

5:45 PM

For years he was the face of radical Islam in Britain – a living caricature of the ‘mad mullah’ — the hook handed, eye patch wearing cleric Abu Hamza. Famous for holding congregational prayers on the streets of Finsbury Park and railing against the West, the era of Abu Hamza is now finally drawing to a close

Yesterday, the European Court of Human Rights refused a request by Abu Hamza and four others to have their case referred to its Grand Chamber. This means they have now exhausted all their avenues of appeal through the Strasbourg courts and will soon be extradited to the United States.

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The Home Office has already told the BBC that Abu Hamza will be removed from the country ‘as soon as possible’. His departure will mark the end a remarkable chapter in the history of Britain’s curious, at times utterly inexplicable, relationship with radical Islam.

Yesterday’s ruling means a total of five men wanted on terrorism charges in the United States will now be extradited very shortly. In addition to Abu Hamza, the others include Babar Ahmad and Syed Talha Ahsan who are accused of running a website that raised funds for the Taliban. Two other men, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled al-Fawwaz will be tried for having links to Osama bin Laden. Both have been indicted by the FBI for alleged support or involvement with the 1998 twin embassy bombings in East Africa which claimed more than 200 lives.

All of these men have resisted deportation on the grounds that doing so would expose them to such mistreatments as solitary confinement, limited family visits, and restricted reading material. Meanwhile, the ‘decadent West’ which they spent their lives railing against has extended them due process, legal representation, and the dignity of having their cases heard by an independent judiciary – the very courtesies of justice and equity they denied their alleged victims.


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  • Junis

    Israel did 9/11 and ‘white’ British police officers are the informal, racist enemies of Muslims and blacks. History tells us that those who have committed all terrorists offences in modern history are ‘white’.

    Malcolm X quote that is related to Britain’s press:

    “If you’re not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”

    The thing newsworthy about Abu Hamza and Babar Ahmad is them being imprisoned for 8 years without charge and catastrophically and treacherously extradited to America. They are the victim of ‘white’ racist traitors. Here is the proof that England cares more about pedophiles than innocent Muslim dissidents:
    http://www.skynews.com.au/world/article.aspx?id=766212&vId=

  • Ridcully

    Abu Hamza: Apparently not as nice as he looks.

  • Ridcully

    Abu Hamza: Apparently not as nice as he looks.

  • ArchiePonsonby

    I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you! Here is an article amongst dozens NOT about the Lib-Dem conference! Iain Dale thrives!

  • Daniel Maris

    It isn’t over till the fat man slings ‘is ‘ook.

    • Noa

      Ableist!

  • http://twitter.com/FrenchNewsonlin FrenchNews

    “Meanwhile, the ‘decadent West’ which they spent their lives railing against has extended them due process, legal representation, and the dignity of having their cases heard by an independent judiciary – the very courtesies of justice and equity they denied their alleged victims” .
    What a perverse and disgraceful waste of taxpayer’s money that was. The hook of hate and his cascade of splenetic vitriol was surely his own do-it-yourself due process. What were they waiting for.

  • ghengis

    After all that, the gent in question is able to launch yet another appeal. Oh God – our ancesters must all be turning in their graves.

  • john

    I don’t know why they’re so worried. Surely Allah will strike terror into the hearts of the infidel Americans, who will then find them not guilty?

    Anyway, he simply gets replaced by another Muslim, just like Bin Laden was. This is just the start, not the end.

  • Maurice_Gosfield

    HEADLINE: The era of Abu Hamza is now finally drawing to a close
    Apparently not. The bugger has just been granted an injunction preventing his extradition.

  • James R

    Hamza appealing to the High Court to prevent deportation order.
    A case of ” You scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours ”

  • James R

    Hamza appealing to the High Court to prevent deportation order.
    A case of ” You scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours ”

  • sir_graphus

    The era of Abu Hamza will end when the East London Mosque and others stop hosting foreign preachers who incite their audience to violence with impunity. Has this happened?

    • Noa

      Perhaps better to have finished the sentence after “…stop”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/amergin.selby Amergin Selby

    Referring to my earlier post. I was ‘bricked’ by a group of Asian boys who were being egged on by 2 older young men. I complained to the Equal Opportunities place and was told it was for whites.

  • http://www.facebook.com/amergin.selby Amergin Selby

    The man is a crazed preacher and should never have been allowed to come into this country and if he stayed he should have kept his silence. He disgusts me and like others I detest the time it has taken to get this far . It is down to lawyers abusing the appeal system and raking in legal aid monies- and probably voting conservative to boot.
    When I was teaching I had a class of 30 of which perhaps 10 were Bangladeshi. I visited a Mela to get some feel for their culture. I was the only white face there. I was approached by a group of men who wanted to know what I was doing there , this Mela was for them.
    Later that month I was required to attend a compulsory talk from another pakistani whose talk was basically an appeal to let them integrate into our society. I told him of my experience and he dropped his head and mumbled something. I stood up and left the meeting.
    They do not want to integrate and consider our culture as polluted which is why they feel free to abuse our young women. I saw two white girls in some garages which had been opened and was being used by boys to assault these girls. The girls did not complain and did not try to leave. I called the police and a constable appeared later. I explained what was going on and he nodded knowingly.” Yes , sir, we call it the 50 Pence Club.”. He also explained the girls were in care and had absconded and if they were returned they would only abscond again.
    What can you do?

  • michael

    if the Queen hadn’t said something we’d still be at square one.

    • http://www.facebook.com/amergin.selby Amergin Selby

      From what I gather the Queen only enquired why he had not been arrested. No where does it say she ordered it.
      In my opinion the Home Office was very weak in this case and should have acted not only quicker but more positively. I wonder if since had a British passport he could have been charged with treason?
      Just asking.

  • spooky2981

    i hope they waterboard this menace at guantanamo for the rest of his life … what has become of british society if we cant even deal with people like this . The guy wants to kill innocent people he had public rallies in hyde pak stating so we need as a country to man up as being pc is costing lives and public opinion .

  • Wilhelm

    ” Multiculturalism sits at the pinnacle of Political Correctness (another expression invented in the 20th century ) and is promoted in the post-Christian West with a religious fervour. Multiculturalism trumps all in the PC world. The working class, the homosexual, women in general but particularly so feminist women – all bow before a political and ideological supremacy invented in favour of a foreign race and a foreign religion.

    This peculiar attitude has been adopted by our ruling classes who are obsessed with atoning for the perceived sins of historical oppression carried out in the name of Christianity and the colonisation of non-white countries. The West now finds itself in the position where multiculturalism is the driving ideology behind pretty much everything – the law, education, employment and correct thinking. Those who do not think correctly are called racists, the ultimate heretical sin in PC terms.

    So where does Islam fit into the liberal/ left’s brave new PC world of non-prejudice, non-discrimination, tolerance of ‘the other’ and respect for all races and religions? Is it unreasonable to suggest the core tenets of Islam’s political/ religious ideology make it intractably and unarguably impossible for Islam to peacefully adapt to life in multicultural societies? ”

    Read full article here

    http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/untimely-observations/multicultural-defenders-of-monocultural-islam/

    • Noa

      Thanks for the link. Wilhelm.

    • Gscott

      Absolutly bang on mate…..

    • James102

      You were correct up to a few years’ ago but not now.
      The fallacy of proportionate outcomes has led to equalities legislation and the formation of a single Quango to monitor and enforce equal outcomes for protected groups.
      It is now recognised that these groups are often in conflict, particularly Islam(and to a lesser extent Afro-Caribbean culture ) with feminists and homosexuals . As Muslims have less power than the others multi-culturalism is now yesterday’s fashion.
      You will see a steady crackdown and moves to bring the next generation into line with mainstream European cultural Marxist values.

  • JR

    When Abu Hamza goes make sure his family of spongers get out of the country.

  • Austin Barry

    There are going to be hundreds of Hamzas. Islamic ‘Brits’ training in the rubble of some distant cesspit for their ‘domestic’ Jihad. This is just the start, not the end.

  • http://300wordtheses.blogspot.co.uk/ Gerry Dorrian

    Hamza’s era is coming to an end because our leaders simpered pretty-please to the EU. Not a good sign.

  • anyfool

    Why has the Home Office informed the BBC, is there no other outlets who require this information, has the BBC got to give consent for this creature to be deported.
    Why waste time, he should have been on Camerons plane to the US then he could have joined him on the late night TV settee.

    • telemachus

      You cannot use this to beat the been
      They have been consistent on Hamsa

    • Hexhamgeezer

      They told the BBC first because they know how disappointed they would be and it needed to be broken gently. Frank Gardner’s revelation was probably just a shocked knee-jerk reaction to try to muddy the waters in a last attempt to give Hamza’s supporters some hope or traction.

  • Noa

    We can now look forward to the pleasure of supporting his extensive families, whilst they in turn manage his UK property portfolio.
    Until such time as Obama makes a formal apology for his inconvenience and returns him to us.

    • telemachus

      Not if we hurry thru the communications bill and gather data enough for compensation
      As posted on another thread Beria would help

      • telemachus

        This toad Hamsa has done it again
        Injunction against deportation

  • Glurk

    I think he thought that too…

  • Heartless etc.,

    Never mind all the mealy-mouthed excuses! WHY did it take so long?

    Ponder the answer – and learn H2B! You DO NOT carry the weight of British Public opinion with you. And don’t resort to Polls, – they give but a taste! Talk to real people in real streets, – something alien to you I know, – but you have so much to learn, – and so little time to learn it.

    • 2trueblue

      I’m with you, what did it take this long for the law to rid us of this man?

      • http://cambriandissenters.blogspot.com/ Daniel Tekel Thomas

        Don’t count your chickens, he hasn’t gone yet!

        All the legal barriers have been removed so why will it take two or three more weeks to get shot of the lowlife?

        After such a long time everything should have been in place to put him on the first available flight the second the last barrier was removed.

        I will only believe it when the Yanks have in irons

  • james102

    I always had the sneaking suspicion that this farce was the
    result of him really being Curruthers of the SIS.

    • telemachus

      Do not bet on resolution
      How many times have we waited expectantly since we first said
      Sling yer ‘ook

      • james102

        That will confirm my suspicions.

        We will need to fake his death so he can take up a new
        posting after some leave, a promotion and a gong in the next honours list.

        • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

          I don’t know if anyone else has noticed but the telemachus group is more incoherent than usual, and spelling is a lot worse. I think that this is either a different troll acting on his behalf while he is on holiday to North Korea, or is a different member of the collective who has the evening shift.

          • james102

            Yes do you think it/they are the mods? Very up on obscure
            American economists for a troll.

            • telemachus

              See above
              The mods are failing tonight

          • telemachus

            Or even posting from my iPad rather than desktop
            Surprised after your Cable thread post that this blog is still giving you airtime

            • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

              james102, the telemachus troll also seems to have developed an anti-terrorist narrative, and a pro-justice voice. It is all a little jarring as it is no longer the telemachus we are used to.

              He does seem to think that the abuse of vulnerable white British girls by predatory gangs of Pakistani Muslims should not be condemned. In that respect he is the same old telemachus. One hopes that he has no daughters himself.

              • Daniel Maris

                I don’t think the original Telemachus would have mocked Hamza for his disability. If anything he would have remarked on that approvingly. This is definitely a Tele-melee.

                • Noa

                  Gents. Are you seriously arguing about the existence or otherwise of this singular or multiple troll?
                  By doing so he has achieved his purpose, you could be commenting more purposefully.
                  And Daniel, are you really serious about this anti-ablist/disablist humour?

                • Daniel Maris

                  I’m having difficulty following your train of thought – are you saying it’s OK to mock the afflicted?

                • Noa

                  I’m saying that I read your post as ironic humour, in view of the way he lost lost them in an alleged ‘freak de-mining accident’.

                  Afflicted? Many innocent people would now be alive if this murderous man had done the job properly and you prattle about offending the handicapped!

                  If you believe the loss of his hands wasn’t connected to terrorism then you’ll believe anything, like perpetu’um mobile, and the mighty power of wind.. oh wait a minute…

                • telemachus

                  There is only one telemachus
                  Those students of reasonableness will recognise the desire to use all electronic means at our disposal to get the paedophiles and terrorists

                  And Dan, Hamsa is a creature not a person and all flows from that
                  As Queen Elizabeth opined he should be locked up until such time as he is put into a Farage-Model light plane and flown to the US

                • Daniel Maris

                  So it’s OK to mock the self-afflicted…just checking.

                • Noa

                  I defend tellytubby’s absolute right to freedom of thought, publication and speech, or in this case a humourous metaphor, as I do yours and however much your views may both differ from mine.

                  But, statists both, you seek to impose restrictions, preferably by self censorship, on others.

                • Noa

                  I defend tellytubby’s absolute right to freedom of thought, publication and speech, or in this case a humourous metaphor, as I do yours and however much your views may both differ from mine.

                  But, statists both, you seek to impose restrictions, preferably by self censorship, on others.

                • James102

                  We do it with politicians here all the time.
                  To take up politics, in this country ,surely you need to be at the least slightly ‘afflicted’

                • James102

                  We do it with politicians here all the time.
                  To take up politics, in this country ,surely you need to be at the least slightly ‘afflicted’

              • Nicholas

                It is more pro-fascism than pro-justice. The creep admires Beria, Stalin’s secret police chief which tell you all you need to know about post-democratic toerags like telemachus:-

                http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mass-grave-may-hold-berias-sex-victims-1453126.html

      • Daniel Maris

        Telemachus,

        I am shocked at your ablist comment. Why do you hate disabled people so much? Whatever his other faults, it is shameful for you with your four good limbs to mock his disability.

        If you would like to pen an apology I think that would be in order. Or do you want us to “let you off the hook”, as you might put it?

        • james102

          Q supplied them he is a rather good pianist really.

        • http://www.facebook.com/amergin.selby Amergin Selby

          Never mind that – how do you put him in handcuffs when he is exradited

        • http://www.facebook.com/amergin.selby Amergin Selby

          Never mind that – how do you put him in handcuffs when he is exradited

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