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Lib Dem conference: The morning after the Vince before

25 September 2012

8:52 AM

25 September 2012

8:52 AM

Vince Cable’s speech yesterday setting out how he thinks there’ll be another hung parliament was a significant moment. It was clear last night, that it had placed in peoples’ minds the question of whether Cable was more likely to hold Lib Dem seats than Nick Clegg and whether he would be able to better exploit a second hung parliament.

This has added to the importance of Nick Clegg’s speech tomorrow. I understand that on Wednesday Clegg will be forceful rather than apologetic, it will be a book end to his sorry over tuition fees. He intends to use it to set out where he is taking his party.

The Liberal Democrat leader, and those around him, have decided that the best way to secure his position is to make the question of his leadership an argument about the party’s strategy rather than a beauty parade. This is a sensible move given that every poll shows that Vince Cable boosts the party’s vote share. According to today’s Guardian, Cable would bump the party up five points to 19 percent—a number which would give the party hope of retaining most of the seats it currently holds.

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  • Dimoto

    The “Vince boost” is entirely analogous to the “Brown boost”.
    Remind us how long that lasted.
    Vince is whistling in the wind if he thinks they will repeat the dose as king makers.
    Both major parties, and the electorate, have seen what they are about.
    In the unlikely event of another hung parliament, I think we would be heading for a short-term, minority government, (and an almighty financial crisis).

  • Noa

    I can’t understand why it takes 3 Speccie journalists to post daily from this Brighton burble and burp tripe-fest.
    The amount of news worthy of serious consideration could be collected by one boy scout in return for a new woggle.

    Why, for example, can nobody there get a visa and stagecoach ticket to investigate the appalling institutional cover up of organised inter-racial paedophilia by Pakistani ‘heritage’ gangs in south Yorkshire?

    • telemachus

      Political comment trumps your one track Islamophobic mind

      • Noa

        Rather than being a troll it is time that you demanded a full explanation from a cowardly and conniving Labour Party and its leadership of their role in hiding and criminalsing those who sought to expose the disgusting and institutionalised prostitution of white children for the perverse pleasure of Pakinstani and other muslim men.
        However we already know that you prefer personal abuse and the censor’s scissors, to objective investigation.

        • telemachus

          As you well know, this is little to do with any political party.
          It goes to the inate fear of the senior constabulary of having a racial riot on their watch.
          Sad but true.
          Perhaps instead of your own brand of abuse and sticking your head in the sand you could tell us how to fairly police our society of the disadvantaged

          • Noa

            This has everything to do with Labour and its policy of rubbing the Rights nose in diversity, allied with the iniquitous Equality legislation used to pervert and destroy our traditional values and institutions.
            Be assured, those who instigated this will be identified and justly punished.
            Those who evade the truth and apologise for the perpetrators are beneath contempt.

  • sir_graphus

    The truth is that the Liberals don’t really want to be in govt at all.
    It reflects their voters, who vote Liberal because they can’t decide whether they want a Tory or Labour govt.

  • mongoose

    Vincerò!

  • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

    It looks like we must put up with hundreds and hundreds of blogs about the utterly irrelevant LibDem conference. But the Spectator and Telegraph cannot seem to find even a junior staff member to write a paragraph about the hundreds and hundreds of vulnerable white young girls abused over decades by gangs of predatory Pakistani Muslims in South Yorkshire alone.

    Shame on you.

    • michael

      If this is a Pakistani Muslim thing why is it always confined to the North?
      -Perhaps our threadbare old carpets are no longer up to hiding all ‘ sweepings.

      • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

        My teenage daughter has been propositioned by creepy Pakistani Muslim men here in the South. I am sure it is not only a Northern phenomena.

        • PakiWhoCanSpeakEnglish

          That’s phenomenon to those of us who actually speak the language.

          • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

            Is that all that matters to you as a Pakistani? Not the fact that large numbers of vulnerable white British girls are being abused by your fellow countrymen?

            And actually phenomena is correct. Unfortunately it has not only happened once, it has happened hundreds of times, and is till happening, therefore the plural form is correct.

            • telemachus

              This has to be the single most offensive post I have seen here
              Please Mr Moderator James
              Not only delete but ban the perpetrator

              • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

                Really? You find the truth offensive? How very socialist of you. Of course as a sociliast you will want to make the perpetrators into the victims, and the victims into criminals.

                What do you find offensive? Almost certainly not that vulnerable, white British girls are being abused by gangs of predatory Pakistani Muslim men. Indeed we can remind ourselves that you think the practice, also performed by similar communities, of torturing small girls and mutilating them is a joke.

                I think that more than any other post this latest one reveals what sort of a dhimmi creep you are.

                • Noa

                  Yes, we see a true appeaser and apologist for an appalling disproven and corrupt Socialist credo, which is now disintegrating as the shocking truth emerges.

                • telemachus

                  What IS offensive is the racialist “Paki-Bashing” reminiscent of the worst excesses of the EDL and BNP
                  James-I appeal

              • Noa

                You must be referring to Paki etc’s vile remark on the causality of the gang rapes perpetrated by Pakistani muslim pedophilia gangs.

          • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

            Is that all that matters to you as a Pakistani? Not the fact that large numbers of vulnerable white British girls are being abused by your fellow countrymen?

            And actually phenomena is correct. Unfortunately it has not only happened once, it has happened hundreds of times, and is till happening, therefore the plural form is correct.

          • michael

            PakiWhoCanSpeakEnglish :How stereotypically supercilious…. Same old ‘white-trash’ snobbery that engenders this type of paedophilia.

            • Noa
            • Noa

              So, incredibly, you are saying that the wholesale Pakistani and muslim sexual predation of young white girls is actually engendered, and justified, by what they perceive to be a ‘racist’ superiority, displayed to them either by these girls or the white English generally.

              You should apologise immediately and retract this unprovable, disgusting and offensive comment.

          • telemachus

            Hooray for a sensible voice

        • PakiWhoCanSpeakEnglish

          That’s phenomenon to those of us who actually speak the language.

      • trevor21

        The reason its confined to places like my home town of Rochdale is because its up here where the major colonies are located. We don’t call it ‘Rochdaleistan’ for nothing.

        • telemachus

          Also deserves the delete button

    • http://twitter.com/mackydee1977 Macky Dee

      Is this the right place to talk about that? This is about a (boring) libdem conference. If you want to talk about such an important and urgent issue as you have mentioned then dont write comments on a page about the LibDems. Write to the Telegraph and ask them why? Or go to a place where sound debate is happening (dont just rely on speccie and tele…)

      • http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/ Coffeehousewall

        Are you a moderator? Maybe you should ask why the Spectator prevents the free debate of such matters, and chooses to ignore them. I’d say this is the right place to raise such matters, if only to shame the Spectator. Since there are about 20 pages devoted to the definitely boring LibDem conference it would seem that you are suggesting we must just go with the programme and only discuss what the Spectator thinks we should be worrying about.

      • Austin Barry

        Unhappily, the Telegraph and the Spectator tend to close comments on Islamic and immigration matters – when they mention them at all.

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